Step counter accuracy - Xiaomi Mi Band 4 Questions & Answers

Hi. I bought mi band 4 and I'm not sure about step counter accuracy. After 8 hours shift unstoppable waking here and there I have only 4000 steps. But on my amazfit bip I had around 18000 steps. So which one is accurate? Should I manually count my steps to check the real steps?
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Make sure that you configure your band correctly, particularly on which hand you wear it. Steps counting depends also on the type of activity, band registers only walks longer than 10 steps. If you make only few steps with a long enough pause each time, it's possible that they're being ignored. Amazfit should have similar number of steps though. I would suggest wearing both and verify their accuracy by manual counting of for example 50 steps. Then try to move your hands when still, bands should not increase the step counter. Then you'll know which band is more accurate.

I tested step counter with my hand in a pocket and also without. Then walked 100 steps, counting. It's very accurate. Missed only 2 or 3 steps in either scenario.

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[REVIEW] Mi Band with Moto G

So after the launch of mi band in china i was really excited as Xiaomi was entering the Indian market with its products but they didn't lauch it back then in december 2013. So I had to order it from Aliexpress which was a risk because it was my first purchase. I received the product and it was packed well. I believe we all know the feautres so I’ll skip it to make this thread short.
now coming to the review part.
Moto G has BT LE which is the only HW requirement needed to for this device to work and you need Android Lollipop to make the screen unlock feature to work. I downloaded the app from playstore and after several attempts i could not sign up so i opened the Xiaomi website and registered there first and then signed into the app which worked like a charm.
Now coming to the performance the battery really lasts for more than 30days, once i got 41days battery life, YES 41DAYS!!! The sensor works very well and it's *almost* accurate, now you ask why "almost" It’s because it sometime counts steps when I'm polishing shoes, cutting vegetables etc. so the solution I found to this issue was to wear it on my less active arm(left).
The app is very basic, you can see the number of steps and the time you slept with deep sleep time but doesn’t count if you take a nap in the day or evening. I found a very good feature that is if you raise your hand (like to see the time on your watch) it shows your progress with the LEDs that is 3 for goal reached, 2 for more than 50% and 1 for less than 50%. At times you won’t be able to update the content on your app and it will show not connected, the solution is turn off/on the BT and it works. The smart lock feature works 9/10 times. I have washed it and it's still working but obviously don't do it everyday.
Now if you need some extra features like checking weight, BMI and scoreboard which requires wechat as of now. I have requested the developer to inbuilt the scoreboard feature within the app. You can download the latest version from here
http://en.miui.com/thread-110066-1-1.html
After 7months of usage the band has got lots of scratches on it (not the sensor) and a change is required.
Conclusion:
I find the Mi Band a great companion for any fitness freak and it works very well with Moto G 2013. After using it for so long I can say that it’s completely a VALUE FOR MONEY PRODUCT. Just remember no product is perfect even the great nexus6 & iphone 6 has its pros and cons. If you are looking for a fitness tracker you can give it a try it won’t disappoint you.
You can buy it from here (India)
http://dl.flipkart.com/dl/mi-band/p/itme86bfkxhzqcbv?pid=SBNE86BFAZT6GPGP&affid=ab23may94
If you have any questions you can ask!
I look forward to seeing the next generation of this band and how accuracy improves.

What is wrong with the Note7 gps???

I have tested the gps altimeter function by climbing stairs and carrying the following devices:
1. Garmin 60csx
2. iPhone 6s
3. Samsung Galaxy Note 3
4. Samsung Galaxy Note 7
5. Samsung Galaxy Tab S2
Results of Garmin and iPhone were accurate, Note 3 acceptable, however Note 7 was far from real values. Has anyone experienced the same? Or do I have a defective device?
Watch the video!
Anyway to test this on a lone Note 7 with no comparison or known altitude reading at my location?
You can get an altitude reading for your location here, then compare it to the results of any number of altitude-reporting apps from the Play Store.
Sadly, my Note 7 appears to be off by 80 feet or so (I'm currently at roughly 15 feet above sea level and the N7 says I'm 60+ feet below!).
Dodge DeBoulet said:
You can get an altitude reading for your location here, then compare it to the results of any number of altitude-reporting apps from the Play Store.
Sadly, my Note 7 appears to be off by 80 feet or so (I'm currently at roughly 15 feet above sea level and the N7 says I'm 60+ feet below!).
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My results on an Exynos variant in the UK:
44m using the app "Altimeter" and current altitude at my location is (according to google maps) "Last point clicked : 46.547 m / 152.713 feet"
Pretty accurate.
Note 7 elevation graph issue
If someone using endomondo sport tracker or strava with Note7, please share some results with us, I'm so sad about this inaccuracy. If you know a better thread for this, please let me know! Thank you!
Just following up on this. I received my replacement Note 7 and ran it through the same process for determining altitude via GPS. I received pretty much the same results, so I'm assuming the hardware itself isn't at fault.
I did some research into the expected accuracy of gps-only calculated altitude and discovered that it's generally considered to be quite inaccurate. The altitude value you receive is calculated based on the "WGS84 reference ellipsoid," which is a somewhat abstract model of the earth. There are formulae that can correct for that, but even with the correction you can't expect accuracy to be significantly better than +/- 10 meters.
For that reason, many GPS applications use supplementary geoid data which provides fairly accurate contour information based on satellite radar-mapped terrain. This of course requires a data connection, but generally provides accuracy to within a few meters of average local sea-level.
Because of these different methods of determining altitude (barometric pressure is an option as well, but far less accurate), you can see wildly different estimates of altitude from different apps. Some provide only WGS84 data, others munge that with formulae or filtering, and a number of them use geoid data.
One of the apps I used allowed me to selectively enable/disable GPS, geoid, and barometric data in calculating my altitude. Unfortunately it was stuffed full of annoying, auto-play ads to the extent that I really don't want to promote it ... but turning the various methods on/off while I experimented with it was quite enlightening.
Now I'm very confused!
But check this new comparison! (I'm not sure, how to post images..)
I did it yesterday. Note7 with SHealth is perfect, but with endomondo is very inaccurate. I used both app at the same time. My TabS2 Lte with endomono is quite good.
Dodge DeBoulet said:
Just following up on this. I received my replacement Note 7 and ran it through the same process for determining altitude via GPS. I received pretty much the same results, so I'm assuming the hardware itself isn't at fault.
I did some research into the expected accuracy of gps-only calculated altitude and discovered that it's generally considered to be quite inaccurate. The altitude value you receive is calculated based on the "WGS84 reference ellipsoid," which is a somewhat abstract model of the earth. There are formulae that can correct for that, but even with the correction you can't expect accuracy to be significantly better than +/- 10 meters.
For that reason, many GPS applications use supplementary geoid data which provides fairly accurate contour information based on satellite radar-mapped terrain. This of course requires a data connection, but generally provides accuracy to within a few meters of average local sea-level.
Because of these different methods of determining altitude (barometric pressure is an option as well, but far less accurate), you can see wildly different estimates of altitude from different apps. Some provide only WGS84 data, others munge that with formulae or filtering, and a number of them use geoid data.
One of the apps I used allowed me to selectively enable/disable GPS, geoid, and barometric data in calculating my altitude. Unfortunately it was stuffed full of annoying, auto-play ads to the extent that I really don't want to promote it ... but turning the various methods on/off while I experimented with it was quite enlightening.
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i5 Plus vs. SMA-Band - Help me choose

Hi everyone. Recently, I was in search for a fitness band that will remind me to stand up from time to time (I sit from 8-10 hours a day on PC) and additionally, show some notifications. At first, Mi Band 2 seemed like a great choice, but after reading some detailed reviews, it appears that notifications on this device are not so helpful (only app icon, sometimes even wrong).
Then I searched for Mi Band alternatives and found these two: i5 Plus and SMA-Band. They're similar in price and only apparent difference is that SMA-Band features heart-rate monitor (which isn't such a big deal for me) and i5 Plus is somewhat older device.
Does anyone know which one is better in terms of notifications and battery time (or which one is better choice in general)?
Thanks in advance
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I have doubts about the two same models, in the end what you have chosen?

GPS accuracy

Can anyone test the GPS accuracy using GPStest apk the only dual GPS app compatible for now. We want to know if it's 10x more accurate then other phone or only bull **** like xiaomi mi 8
Bumping this question up... I'm really looking forward to hearing how accurate the Huawei implementation of "dual frequency" GPS is.
For many people in the US...the extra accuracy is NOT a problem...... However, in downtown Tokyo or Manila....after you've walked around the block 3 times while following G Map's "bouncing blue GPS dot" in 35 degree heat / 99% humidity...accurate GPS *is* a big deal. To recap - the dual frequency should minimize reflections of the GPS signal and in theory lead to 30 cm accuracy.
NOTE- only a few cities worldwide are served by dual frequency satellites at this time. Where you do the GPS accuracy checks will matter. For more info on the precision of dual frequency GPS...see this cute demo. Can't vouch for its accuracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI0TdX7HCwU
I'll try in a little but I can tell you it locked near instantly in my garage where I can't even get xm radio..
Edit:
See a ton of EU, US, and Russian Sats and a few chinese
What exactly am I looking for to tell you?
Thank you for your reply! If your location is served by the dual frequency satellites..... when you enlarge/embiggen/zoom in with G Maps....your phone SHOULD be able to tell you when you've moved from one parking space to the one RIGHT NEXT to the first one. In other words...in theory, there is 30 cm (12 inch) accuracy for your position....NOT the current 3 to 24 foot "radius" of error that current consumer smartphone GPS provides. For USA drivers this will be a big help because it will give you "lane level" accuracy. This is doubly important b/c in large cities with skyscrapers and multi level expressways, there are tremendous problems with reflected/bounced signals and the infamous BLUE DOT may or may not be anywhere near where it says you are...
Downside is that accuracy can be so good...if nefarious actors want you....they can land a drone on your head.. instead of just "nearby" you.
onepiece said:
Thank you for your reply! If your location is served by the dual frequency satellites..... when you enlarge/embiggen/zoom in with G Maps....your phone SHOULD be able to tell you when you've moved from one parking space to the one RIGHT NEXT to the first one. In other words...in theory, there is 30 cm (12 inch) accuracy for your position....NOT the current 3 to 24 foot "radius" of error that current consumer smartphone GPS provides. For USA drivers this will be a big help because it will give you "lane level" accuracy. This is doubly important b/c in large cities with skyscrapers and multi level expressways, there are tremendous problems with reflected/bounced signals and the infamous BLUE DOT may or may not be anywhere near where it says you are...
Down side is...if nefarious actors want you....they can land a drone on your head (assuming your phone is somewhere on your body).
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I went outside and the radius around the dot in maps became very small. Walked to one side of my driveway to the other and the dot matched me near perfectly.
Your results are encouraging. Thank you for checking. Hope we can get more input/feedback from other users to find out if this "dual frequency GPS" feature is as valuable as it is purported to be.
Better but not cm accuracy
I have compared my mate 20 pro to Samsung s6 and yes the dual GPS improves remarkably. Using two different GPS. Testing apps I had 3-4m accuracy with mate 20 pro versus 4-9m with s6. It picked up a few more satellites but more. Importantly it was very fast to get a lock. No waiting 2 minutes. A lock was within 2 seconds.
Still I've not been. Able to see any sub metre accuracy yet. I am in the southwest UK.
Maybe GPS Test app will help? ^^
I did using Mi 8 and OP5 for a short period of time, the Mi 8 got 4mts-12mts sometimes, the OP5 got 16-40mts sometimes, the differency is big, didn't got my Mate 20X yet, but soon i'1ll have it
I'm from Brazil
thiagoserrao said:
I did using Mi 8 and OP5 for a short period of time, the Mi 8 got 4mts-12mts sometimes, the OP5 got 16-40mts sometimes, the differency is big, didn't got my Mate 20X yet, but soon i'1ll have it
I'm from Brazil
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Great. Can you share screenshoot of the accuracy you will get once you get mate 20x and mi 8, using GPStest app. Thank you
Dylan.e.mcfarlane said:
I have compared my mate 20 pro to Samsung s6 and yes the dual GPS improves remarkably. Using two different GPS. Testing apps I had 3-4m accuracy with mate 20 pro versus 4-9m with s6. It picked up a few more satellites but more. Importantly it was very fast to get a lock. No waiting 2 minutes. A lock was within 2 seconds.
Still I've not been. Able to see any sub metre accuracy yet. I am in the southwest UK.
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Thanks to all for getting this info out there. KInd of disappointed that once again, the accuracy & precision is much less than what was advertised. Nice to have the speedy lock but would be much nicer to have the speedy lock, accuracy and precision..
Huawei also <ahem> stretched the truth about the Mate 9 being able to use Galileo GPS for accuracy. Everyone using a Mate 9 could not report good news on getting/using Galileo sats or any better accuracy that any other no name phone.
avril.jil said:
Great. Can you share screenshoot of the accuracy you will get once you get mate 20x and mi 8, using GPStest app. Thank you
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4 meters 36 SATs used
Jerky_san said:
4 meters 36 SATs used
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Use GPStest app. The only dual GPS app until now that can get the true accuracy
avril.jil said:
Use GPStest app. The only dual GPS app until now that can get the true accuracy
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That is the GPS test app.....
Jerky_san said:
That is the GPS test app.....
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Actually, there are 2 apps with the same name on PS
- GPSTest (this one support dual-band gps)
- GPS Test (blue circle icon with dots inside, doesn't support dual-band)
Here's the direct link to the correct app on PS:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
Jerky_san said:
I went outside and the radius around the dot in maps became very small. Walked to one side of my driveway to the other and the dot matched me near perfectly.
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Would help if everyone posted what city they were in so we know which countries and which cities are are capable of taking advantage of this new dual GPS service
I have no clue to most of the numbers, just sharing what I've got in Singapore.
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Switching from Mate 10 Pro, I found that my Mate 20x GPS is less sensitive. Indoors, Mate 10 Pro picked up GPS faster, while mate 20x took longer for a fix and lost location more often. Little disappointing, but it is what it is.
Outdoor, Mate 20x gets more sattelite locks though.
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I know that my LG v30 is horrible for GPS lock. Takes 3 minutes usually.
Mate 20 x takes seconds.
I'm in the USA
Very bad gps location when using Huawei built-in camera, even in open space. 50-150 away from actual location.
Accurate GPS location when using other apps, such as GPS Status, UltraGPS.

Huawei Watch GT 2 First Impression

Hello and good day everyone.
In this post i will provide my full first impression of the watch.
Buying the Watch:
First of all i was using Fitbit Ionic for almost 2 years now and was thinking of an upgrade.
Huawei GT 2 Caught my eye mainly because of its battery life which most watches lack. I've done my research on the watch but there were couple of important things that i've missed.
The Price of the watch was fair compared to others.
First Impression:
- The watch material was good and felt like premium quality build, screen was beautiful.
- Supports Multiple Languages in notifications ( unlike Fitbit ).
- I cant see or view the whole notification ( so when i receive a text message or a whatsapp message i cant read all of it unlike fitbit which is shocking to me).
- Its a shame that you cant reply with a voice to whatsapp notifications at least.
- Watch Faces :
- Pre-installed Watch Faces are beautiful and well designed.​- Not Lot of official Watch Faces ( You can install custom watch faces using the Xposed model mentioned in this forum but to remove the custom face you will have to reset the watch which i see as a waste of time ).​- Heart Rate feels pretty accurate.
- Raise wrist to wake feature is just terrible and extremely sensitive which will bother you at night.
- LiteOS is fast in terms of startup but while using the watch i can see a slightly sluggish performance.
- LiteOS needs alot alot alot of working to be nearly as good as advertised by huawei.
- The support in huawei community forum is just terrible where i mostly see the reply from their representatives as "we highly advised you to call our Huawei Customer service team in your country for further assistance." when the guy is just requesting them to add features or fixing a bug.
- Battery life is still to be determined as its been a day since i got the watch.
- Sleep tracking still to determined.
- Step Counter:
- Step Counter accuracy is off by 10-50 steps, sometimes even more.
- I noticed it recorded 90 steps while am sleeping.​- Huawei F***ing Health Application:
Now thats what i forgot to research about.
First of all Huawei is stepping away from google so who knows how that will affect the compatibility in the future.
Secondly, to download Huawei Health App you need to download HMS Core 4.0+ which you can only get from Huawei AppGallery ( its like PlayStore but designed by Huawei ).
Now they claim that the Health App works with dark mode which is true but not perfectly. Alot of times i had to switch back to light mode just to read the text from the app.
The Main page is beautifully designed and looks good, but the overall User Experience of the app is terrible.
AND THE MOST ANNOYING PART is the step counter dashboard which takes the step count source from both the watch and the phone, and to make things worse you cant select a single source as Huawei claimed that it intelligently calculates a composite results which will show you inaccurate step count. I saw people complaining about this issue to huawei and there response is " You can view your watch by going to Devices > select your watch and you can see the fitness data " (which is only registered for Current day ) .
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Overall:
I do believe that Huawei GT2 is something amazing and has alot of potential, BUT there were too quick with releasing it same as the LiteOS development.
It needs a TON of work to get the satisfaction of a truly smartwatch.
Huawei must listen to what the customers are requesting and work with them rather than just leaving them hanging with stupid reply.
If your wondering wether you want to buy it or not here is my recommendation: if you desire a fully good working watch go with [Apple Watch, Samsung Galaxy Watch, Fitbit Ionic or Versa ] i tried all four these and so far they are better ( NOTE : fitbit is weak in terms of watch faces. )
TO BE FAIR
I experienced similiar issues with Fitbit but i saw rapid development from their end across the 2 years i used the Ionic watch.
I will update the post as i continue my journey with this watch, wishing it will be a good one.
Thank you all, and Hope you find this Helpful.

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