Take a look:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/0...-by-kddi-5-inch-snapdragon-801-20-7mp-camera/
Hope this handset will find it's way to europe!!
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Take a look:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/0...-by-kddi-5-inch-snapdragon-801-20-7mp-camera/
Hope this handset will find it's way to europe!!
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Not really a XZL2 in my opinion. Huge bezel compared to the XZL and water resistant.
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Not really a XZL2 in my opinion. Huge bezel compared to the XZL and water resistant.
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Its on the site of Sony Japan to (Sony Website)
Well I meant it does not continue the spirit of the XZL. The XZL omitted the IP ratings of Sonys flagship device and focused instead on the screen to body ratio. At that time the lack of IP rating allowed the ZL to also have a camera button and an IR blaster (even though the Japanese XZ had also one).
This one is way closer to the XZ2 screen to body ratio than the XZL. For comparison would the screen to body ratio the same as the XZL the XZL2 would have to feature a 5.2" screen. Maybe it is a mistake and the XZL2 features a 5.2" screen, then the name would make sense.
Yep it's more like ZR2.
Tbh, it's way too thick. ZL is already pretty thick.
It's wider than the Z and 3mm (!!!) thicker!!
I think they should just make the Z2 with smaller bezels and ZL backside and be done with it.
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…I think they should just make the Z2 with smaller bezels and ZL backside and be done with it.
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And IR blaster please, this thing is pretty useful.
To give a little bit of reference, the ZL2 is roughly 6mm taller and 3mm wider.
Translates to roughly just under a quarter of an inch taller(about 1/8" more bezel top and bottom) and an eighth of an inch wider(about 1/16" more bezel on the sides)
Doesn't seem that big of a difference to me, and the benefit is same specs as a Z2?
Only downside I'm seeing is that there's no red, and no IR blaster.
What actually bothers me about this is not the size of it, but the styling of it. It looks so much more plastic-y from the back and sides, our ZL feels like it has a bit more class to it, what with the black outline trim and smoother slope on the back.
The ZR2 just looks so much more like a toy than anything...
Looks too big.... the size of my ZL is the max size 5" I will ever buy.... I would say though, I would have liked the ZL to be a mm or 2 thicker, too thin for my liking.... but the Incipio Case gives it a nice thickness .... Too bad Sony didn't strive to make the ZL2 bezels smaller than the ZL...... oh well, maybe in a couple of years, tech will allow for much smaller bezels......
Do anyone knows how to unlock ZL2 it is locked by au. I will really appreciate your help guys. Thanks
I just bought a S4 mini and flashed cm12.1 as I did not intend to use Samsungs Android.
I immediately noticed that the screen looks dirty/grainy
This can be seen best on the "power control widget" background. It looks like a sand paper texture.
But I see that on every not over saturated single colored area also.
I am aware that all AMOLED display do not have super good accuracy, but it is not that I have to stick my face to the screen to notice.
I see this every time without any effort and I find it ugly. It just looks dirty.
I compared with my PS VITA (1st gen) AMOLED and I really really have to concentrate and try hard to see that dirty look there. It is far more clean than my S4 Mini display.
Can anyone confirm? Or is is just bad luck with my unit?
I noticed this too since I got my first S4 mini.
I have two phones and looked at other ones (store, friends). All are the same - grainy.
It's not because of the PPI, I have other phones with lower PPI and backgrounds are clear.
It's most probably because S4 mini doesn't have the "classic" subpixel layout where RGB are close to each other.
The used arrangement is this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...pg/1280px-Samsung_Galaxy_Note_2_subpixels.jpg
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I noticed this too since I got my first S4 mini.
It's most probably because S4 mini doesn't have the "classic" subpixel layout where RGB are close to each other.
The used arrangement is this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...pg/1280px-Samsung_Galaxy_Note_2_subpixels.jpg
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Hi thanks for confirming and thanks for not telling my that I am crazy
But the reason is not only the strange subpixel layout. It seems to be also just bad quality.
Our strange subpixel layout leads to color edges left right top and bottom of a white square on black instead of just left (red) and right (blue), but apart from that it should produce clean single colored areas (whicht it obviously doesn't).
The Vita in addition to producing better single colored areas has the real RGB stripe layout which reduces color edges. I wonder why Samsung gave up on these. Maybe it was too expensive to build(?)
http://mydevelopersway.com/ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Display-Sub-Pixels.png
Could someone give me the dimensions of the screen after it's been removed from the case?
Trying to determine if it'll fit in a custom panel or not.
Probably not, but hopefully someone can measure height & width to within 1/8" for me so I can find out for sure.
Like the red arrows in the pic below (which is just a random tablet pic).
But not counting any mounting tabs.
Don't care about those because if there are any, they'll be ground off so the panel could be glued in place instead.
Thanks!
With the tablet dimensions then you should be able to workout the required dimensions from this picture https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/Yupwpwtw3O4HnDBf. Image from the ifixit teardown at https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+C+Teardown/62277
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With the tablet dimensions then you should be able to workout the required dimensions from this picture https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/Yupwpwtw3O4HnDBf.
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Thanks, that actually helped!
I used this online "ruler" to measure pixel height/width of the bezel vs. the LCD screen on that picture:
http://www.rapidtables.com/web/tools/pixel-ruler.htm
Bezel is 969 pixels wide
Screen is 882 pixels wide = .91 of 969
Bezel is 716 pixels tall
Screen is 659 pixels tall = .92 of 716
OEM Bezel dimensions = 9.53" x 7.05"
These dimensions are per this link:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size#/phones/size/Google-Pixel-C,Google-Nexus-9/phones/9677,8926
So that gives me the following calculations and results.
9.53 x .91 = 8.67"
7.05 x .92 = 6.49"
So, looks like the screen is about 8.67" x 6.49".
That's a good 1/2" taller than I can handle in my custom panel.
Guess I'm stuck with using a Nexus 9 and its not-quite-as-bright LCD.
Unless I wanted to do some heavy fiberglassing to make my opening larger for the larger LCD of the Pixel C.
Dangit.
this is something noone else has thought of either because it's a very stupid idea or because noone wanted it or thought about it, but i thought i could try any way, this app disables the edge display on the galaxy note 10, it disables it both visually and physically, touch will be completely disabled, i plan on having button shortcuts added too so you can launch the camera for example like a shutter button, this is a very niche idea that i doubt will be of interest to anyone, i am considering releasing it just as an experiment though, i made this thread to see what interest it gets in order to know if i should release it or not, my way of thinking when it comes to apps is just different, i don't like curves i don't like edge displays hence why i tried to get rid of it both for design and for the picture being distorted by the curve, theres ofcourse bugs associated with this, as the screen is meant to reach to the edge text or buttons can be difficult or impossible to press, so yeah a very niche idea but honestly it's growing on me to the point of the phone looking strange when i disable the app, it completely changes the look of the phone makes it almost unrecognizable like a note 9 with a flat display
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It sounds interesting, I will try it if you release it
It really is growing on me
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It sounds interesting, I will try it if you release it
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thank you i may actually do that at first i thought it was a stupid idea everyone would hate but it's growing on me see the last picture i posted it's not ugly.
Good luck for you. But just curious why you bought this phone if you don't like curve screen.
Your idea is basically making a think bezel at the side.
Regarding accidently touching, Samsung already made an app called Edge Touch, which can customize area that immune to touch.
torickray said:
Good luck for you. But just curious why you bought this phone if you don't like curve screen.
Your idea is basically making a think bezel at the side.
Regarding accidently touching, Samsung already made an app called Edge Touch, which can customize area that immune to touch.
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well theres no new phone without an edge display, theres two things i hate with new phones, edge displays and curved display corners, i just want a square flat display but thats pretty much if not impossible, i bought the note 10+ because it looks similar to a sony xperia with thin bezels, i only bought the note 10+ because it has a boxy design something that appeals to me, otherwise i would never buy it if it looked like a galaxy s10 i wouldn't even look in it's direction, i just tolerated the edge display but i never wanted it it ruins the phone the curved display corners ruins it too these are things that makes me want to send it back and buy a sony again but sony has curved displaycorners too which i hate so much i ended up sending the xperia 1 back as i could not stand those corners, the bezels on a xperia 1 or 5 are also uneven thicker at the top than the bottom which i can't stand i am also not a big fan of the 21:9 aspectratio which leaves practically no phone left, all phones look exactly the same the one plus 7 looks like a galaxy, the rog phone looks like a galaxy with thin bezels and ridiculous back, what i wouldn't pay for a sony xperia xz1 same metal build and design with an oled panel and bezels as thin as the note 10+ i would pay 1500 or more for that for that as i find myself wanting to go back to my xz1, the note 10+ is not good enough for that cost but it's very very close, the design makes me incredibly biased towards it, i also don't like how warm the display is even at the colest possible setting every time i look at the xz1 i just prefer the display more, i know about that app i use it myself, this app was meant to also remove the edge display visually.
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well theres no new phone without an edge display, theres two things i hate with new phones, edge displays and curved display corners, i just want a square flat display but thats pretty much if not impossible, i bought the note 10+ because it looks similar to a sony xperia with thin bezels, i only bought the note 10+ because it has a boxy design something that appeals to me, otherwise i would never buy it if it looked like a galaxy s10 i wouldn't even look in it's direction, i just tolerated the edge display but i never wanted it it ruins the phone the curved display corners ruins it too these are things that makes me want to send it back and buy a sony again but sony has curved displaycorners too which i hate so much i ended up sending the xperia 1 back as i could not stand those corners, the bezels on a xperia 1 or 5 are also uneven thicker at the top than the bottom which i can't stand i am also not a big fan of the 21:9 aspectratio which leaves practically no phone left, all phones look exactly the same the one plus 7 looks like a galaxy, the rog phone looks like a galaxy with thin bezels and ridiculous back, what i wouldn't pay for a sony xperia xz1 same metal build and design with an oled panel and bezels as thin as the note 10+ i would pay 1500 or more for that for that as i find myself wanting to go back to my xz1, the note 10+ is not good enough for that cost but it's very very close, the design makes me incredibly biased towards it, i also don't like how warm the display is even at the colest possible setting every time i look at the xz1 i just prefer the display more, i know about that app i use it myself, this app was meant to also remove the edge display visually.
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How about upcoming pixel 4?
zzcool said:
well theres no new phone without an edge display, theres two things i hate with new phones, edge displays and curved display corners, i just want a square flat display but thats pretty much if not impossible, i bought the note 10+ because it looks similar to a sony xperia with thin bezels, i only bought the note 10+ because it has a boxy design something that appeals to me, otherwise i would never buy it if it looked like a galaxy s10 i wouldn't even look in it's direction, i just tolerated the edge display but i never wanted it it ruins the phone the curved display corners ruins it too these are things that makes me want to send it back and buy a sony again but sony has curved displaycorners too which i hate so much i ended up sending the xperia 1 back as i could not stand those corners, the bezels on a xperia 1 or 5 are also uneven thicker at the top than the bottom which i can't stand i am also not a big fan of the 21:9 aspectratio which leaves practically no phone left, all phones look exactly the same the one plus 7 looks like a galaxy, the rog phone looks like a galaxy with thin bezels and ridiculous back, what i wouldn't pay for a sony xperia xz1 same metal build and design with an oled panel and bezels as thin as the note 10+ i would pay 1500 or more for that for that as i find myself wanting to go back to my xz1, the note 10+ is not good enough for that cost but it's very very close, the design makes me incredibly biased towards it, i also don't like how warm the display is even at the colest possible setting every time i look at the xz1 i just prefer the display more, i know about that app i use it myself, this app was meant to also remove the edge display visually.
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There is the S10e which is relatively new , then there it the Oneplus 7, Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro, and many others with flat Displays, your just meaning there isn't a Note that has a flat Display
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not to be harsh but the pixel phones are the most bad looking phones of all time, only reason i would get a pixel phone is for it's camera
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There is the S10e which is relatively new , then there it the Oneplus 7, Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro, and many others with flat Displays, your just meaning there isn't a Note that has a flat Display
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s10e is way too round so i can't get that one
mi6t too round
oneplus 7 too round and a notch
what i require from a anew phone
1.boxy design like the note 10+ (anything rounder than the note 10+ and i won't even consider it i got the huawei mate 10 pro and it's nice but too round but i still got it as i knew flat square displays were a dying breed)
2.square flat display with no rounded screen corners
these are two things that simply do not exist in a new phone apart from the razer phone but that one has giant bezels and no oled, for some reason they are that rare the xperia 1 and 5 is as close as i can get, xperia 1 and 5 and note 10+ are the only phones for my taste theres nothing else i've looked everywhere it just doesn't exist it seems people are obsessed with round phones why i don't know, it's like i am an alien when it comes to smartphone design taste, i just don't understand why people want a curved display and when they say anything bad about it it's that it's pretty but not practical, i neither want it for the look or for it's feel.
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s10e is way too round so i can't get that one
mi6t too round
oneplus 7 too round and a notch
what i require from a anew phone
1.boxy design like the note 10+ (anything rounder than the note 10+ and i won't even consider it i got the huawei mate 10 pro and it's nice but too round but i still got it as i knew flat square displays were a dying breed)
2.square flat display with no rounded screen corners
these are two things that simply do not exist in a new phone apart from the razer phone but that one has giant bezels and no oled, for some reason they are that rare the xperia 1 and 5 is as close as i can get, xperia 1 and 5 and note 10+ are the only phones for my taste theres nothing else i've looked everywhere it just doesn't exist it seems people are obsessed with round phones why i don't know, it's like i am an alien when it comes to smartphone design taste, i just don't understand why people want a curved display and when they say anything bad about it it's that it's pretty but not practical, i neither want it for the look or for it's feel.
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I'm not obsessed and think that the wrong term, The edge Display (Agreed not practical) as in its functionality, however it does aid in the slimmer feel, mainly yes aesthetic, I have the Mate 20 X 5G also, that is a flat Display (7.2" of goodness) but I do appreciate the curve as it looks and yea feels good.
We are all into different things and for an OEM or OEMs to cater for every individual likes or wants (needs) then come on that's just not viable.
You are another level cookie ...... cant imagine there will ever be that device for you, especially now with the waterfall Display and folding phone Era
Not having a good not everyone is comfortable with the curve that's perfectly fine, but it's not going to change with Samsung, They might evolve the note line into the fold, but as if now the curve is here to stay.
The App is a solution for you and if it makes it a better experience then that's great, for me personally, obviously I bought the Note knowing its curve, so its neither a hindrance or a bother to me....
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I'm not obsessed and think that the wrong term, The edge Display (Agreed not practical) as in its functionality, however it does aid in the slimmer feel, mainly yes aesthetic, I have the Mate 20 X 5G also, that is a flat Display (7.2" of goodness) but I do appreciate the curve as it looks and yea feels good.
We are all into different things and for an OEM or OEMs to cater for every individual likes or wants (needs) then come on that's just not viable.
You are another level cookie ...... cant imagine there will ever be that device for you, especially now with the waterfall Display and folding phone Era
Not having a good not everyone is comfortable with the curve that's perfectly fine, but it's not going to change with Samsung, They might evolve the note line into the fold, but as if now the curve is here to stay.
The App is a solution for you and if it makes it a better experience then that's great, for me personally, obviously I bought the Note knowing its curve, so its neither a hindrance or a bother to me....
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yeah i will never have the perfect smartphone i actually designed my own because of that
www.facebook.com/symetium/videos/2135545376537234/
did a curved design too this is where a curve is justified and i do like that type of curved design
and the app was not made just for that reason it was also made as a fun test
i use edge touch as that also disables the edge screens , find it within goodlock
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not to be harsh but the pixel phones are the most bad looking phones of all time, only reason i would get a pixel phone is for it's camera
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Apple is trying really hard to make their phones uglier than the Pixel! Have you seen the new design?
Late reaction but I too want the ability to deactivate the edges of my screen. My reason is that that XServer XSDL used in combination with Linux Deploy will take all the available screen to display and that leads to buttons on the curved edges being almost hidden. I realise this is either very difficult or impossible to achieve and that a simpler solution would be to find/make another XServer application but this can be help in other situations. But since this thread is there I was hoping to check if zzcool or anyone else had a solution.
torickray said:
Good luck for you. But just curious why you bought this phone if you don't like curve screen.
Your idea is basically making a think bezel at the side.
Regarding accidently touching, Samsung already made an app called Edge Touch, which can customize area that immune to touch.
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If you use something like the Zizo Bolt case accidental touches just don't happen.
This phone need a good case or it will be damaged... eventually.
I use the curve portion to house One Handed Operation plus, it works out nicely.
Occasionally I need to rotate into Landscape mode when cut/pasting, more often I do that for lengthening the search bar though.
I like the curved display... after some adjustment.
The square corners is what I really like... rounded corners look hideous.
iPhones look goofy... trix are for kids