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It's too late ... Microsoft has quite some advantage here with their Xbox platform.
Anyway, do you play games on your phone?
I do !
- Puzzle Quest
- Allmost all kind of card games
- Billiard
- Scrabble
- Shooter (but rarely because HTC Kaiser sucks on graphics).
Microsoft may have the advantage with XBox, but Apple definitely has the advantage with the iPhone. Indie games can be ported from XBox to WP7 in no time maybe, but AC2, Halo and NFS weren't coded in C#, so I'm not quite sure about real titles.
Does the typical XBox game translate well to a mobile device? Just because a game is awesome on a game console doesn't mean it will be awesome on a smartphone form-factor.
Whichever platform has the best mobile-friendly games will dominate. Hopefully MS has something smart in the works.
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Does the typical XBox game translate well to a mobile device? Just because a game is awesome on a game console doesn't mean it will be awesome on a smartphone form-factor.
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Certainly games don't come to phones from consoles/PC unmodified - if nothing else, they're too huge. Phone gaming is also much more casual. However, my understanding is that Need For Speed or Assassin's Creed are hits on consoles, PSP and the iPhone. I don't see why Halo couldn't.
To be successful nowadays, you dont only rely to shiny graphics or super fluid 3D.
But more on game play and current mantra, social gaming.
Sometimes, it is just a simple game, casual game, which we can find some good example on Facebook.
People are just addicted to it.
The only thing about this new WP7 gaming platform that let me down: It does not support synchronous/real-time online multiplayer, nor wi-fi/bluetooh adhoc. Don't even think about MMORPG like World of Warcraft, simplicistic graphics like Ragnarok online won't be possible because of that limitation.
Probably within 1 or 2 years, when the hardware will be improved, Microsoft have more time, they will be available on XNA GameStudio 4.1 or 5.0
gogol said:
http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-apple-should-combat-windows-phone-7-series-gaming-124123
It's too late ... Microsoft has quite some advantage here with their Xbox platform.
Anyway, do you play games on your phone?
I do !
- Puzzle Quest
- Allmost all kind of card games
- Billiard
- Scrabble
- Shooter (but rarely because HTC Kaiser sucks on graphics).
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IMO best game ever on any smartphone/ipod/zune: BEJEWELED 2 \/
I do play games on my mobile device, but usually not very complicated games. So things like bejeweled 2, solitair, 'tower-defence games' and stuff like that.
And I do agree that 7 Series could become a better platform than the iPhone regarding gaming, because of a few reasons.
The only game they need on wp7 is geometry wars and it's all over for apple gaming .
It's too early to tell, but I think Windows Phone 7 is going to be the new standard in mobile gaming come this fall. Apple had never really cared about gaming nor do I think their user base cares much for it either(they're all about music).
Microsoft also has a pretty huge incentive to get a successful mobile gaming platform comparable to the likes of the PSP and Nintendo DS.
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It's too early to tell, but I think Windows Phone 7 is going to be the new standard in mobile gaming come this fall. Apple had never really cared about gaming nor do I think their user base cares much for it either(they're all about music).
Microsoft also has a pretty huge incentive to get a successful mobile gaming platform comparable to the likes of the PSP and Nintendo DS.
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Most popular iPhone app categories...
Somebody over there likes games
Hopefully they will let you use external controller or keyboard on games.
I hardly think Apple's worried about the gaming aspect of WP7S. Games are tremendously popular on the iPhone, mainly because a lot of the games are simple and puzzle-like (like Bejeweled, Peggle, Flight Control, etc.). Achievements are nice, but hardly something alone that will pull away iPhone owners or potential iPhone owners to WP7S.
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Still I'd never consider the iPhone a mobile gaming platform as most of those "games" are more like flash titles you play in your browser to pass the time.
From what's revealed at the moment, I think Apple will be having quite a hard time confronting WP7S on the battleground of gaming. No, I'm not talking about folly such as porting Gears of War or Mass Effect to a petty phone. What I'm talking about is the might of Xbox Live Arcade. I can instantly name some XBLA titles that will do fantastic on a phone, such as:
- Puzzle Quest
- Exit
- Braid
On XBLA currently there are already tons of stuff to attract light or serious gamers alike. And I can't see the reason why this is not happening. Firstly both WP7S phones and XBLA relies on the same XNA suite for game dev. Secondly the bottomline WP7S hardware specs leads to bunch of performance monsters.
Apple may have thousands of third-party developers. But when it comes to the dog fight with *polished*, *sophitiscated*, *professional* games, XBLA wins big big.
I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't already launched an Apple-branded games console to rival the Xbox. Maybe this will inspire them.
Apple just can't do many things at once, they are a very focused company. They don't do like several dozen ventures to see what works. They brew their stuff until they're sure it's polished enough and then push it. Plus, with consoles, where's the opportunity? They like to go after categories where you have SEA companies making cool hardware but being just unable to make software right to create good user experience. This allows Apple to make hit products which allow the company to squeeze those huge margins by bundling bulk (and thus cheap) hardware with their software. You need all these factors to work at once to create a good opportunity for Apple. Consoles are a different beast, I think.
They may, of course, see a way of redefining the market, but I doubt it. I'd rather expect Google to do one of their crazy silly things like a free opensource console with Google Maps or something ridiculous like that.
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X1 HW Keyboard + Morphgear
There is nothing like old school gameboy on mobile phone
Maybe there will be Xbox mobile. Mix between phone and portable game system with real D-Pad, analog sticks and buttons
This is the big boon for me. The Live platform on a phone? Yes please! There's various different gaming platforms on the iPhone, handling anything from scoreboards to fully-fledged vs multiplayer. To have the whole thing integrated in to a single, native service is fantastic!
XNA Game Studios and Silverlight also seem a lot more capable than the iPhone's dev tools. Hopefully WinPho7 won't get plagued by the same utter crap that fills the App Store (wishful thinking?). The only games I actually like on my iPhone are Plants vs Zombies, Peggle, Bejewelled, Flight Control, Canabalt and the geoDefence games. That's out of the 50 titles I've purchased for the platform. Poor going indeed.
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Those are called video games in my era.
What you play probably is reality video game ie. hardcore gamer!!!!!
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I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't already launched an Apple-branded games console to rival the Xbox. Maybe this will inspire them.
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Nintendo beat them to the the Wii. It is very Apple-esque.
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Those are called video games in my era.
What you play probably is reality video game ie. hardcore gamer!!!!!
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Gaming has evolved since then - what we want is 3D shooters and RPGs or games that last longer than half-an hour.
Take the PSP as an example of what I'd wish microsoft would bring to WP7.
Hi guys
When I bought a HTC Touch HD a while ago, I got it as it was seemingly the best rival to the iPhone. I do like the HD. But one thing I wanted was decent apps like the iPhone had, esp games. Looks like the only game that the HD can boast about is Xtract, on every thread on here, thats the only game ppl talk about. Where are the games that I can play that shows it can compete with the iPhone games. Everyone sitting on the train playing great wee games on their iPhone, but I have Xtract to play, or stupid wee puzzle games with no graphics, pretty dissapointing. Can anyone prove me wrong with this and point me to great fun apps and games for the HD? I dont see the point in slagging the iPhone, if its clearly better when it comes to the fun aspect to the phone, which is why most people want these days.
Cheers guys
Martin
I tottaly agree with you...
you think exactly in the same way as me...
im so sad with my Touch HD too
nice point....
tbh, the touch hd is not really a games platform, its more of a getting things done type of device (something i think it does very well). Sure, it would be nice to have some extra games, but i bought this device to help keep myself organised as well as do some cool geeky stuff and my hd still does that fine. Maybe you simply bought the wrong device?
lol, i think that i bought the wrong device for games and apps...
but to browse the web and read some study things it's nice
i wanna change it, but i didn't see any really good device to replace it
so i will wait for that...
I don't know. I think it's pretty nice being able to play Starcraft, Warcraft, Heroes of might and magic and various other old pc games on the blackstone. Don't think that's possible on the iphone.
Other than those, you still have games like monopoly, asphalt, guitar hero, need for speed undercover, call of duty, assasins creed, fifa, prince of persia etc. etc. Lots of games, really.
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LOL, all these games are "Kid games"...
i think that the we need games like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-i5xYMY6bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zOOaPQ4hiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PX10ASE3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbUVpApFS7k
i think that these example talks better than anything...
I'm asking the same question: why can't we have cool 3D games like iPhone? I think Xtract and Experiment 13 are the only 2 games which showed us that it IS possible on our devices. So why are there only stupid 2D games with ugly qvga-like graphics (gameloft)?
I've played only two really good games (unfortunately both 2D) on my device: Archibald's adventure (made in Czech republic ) and OpenTTD. Most of other games are useless and not pretty funny/exciting...
I dont wanna 3D games with stunning graphics or something like that...
i just need something like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZSsqj5hLA
games
Well there are several reasons for the lack of games on the HD2
1) Gameloft give iphone a better version because they make more money.
On windows mobile most users look for cracked software.
2) THE BIGGEST ONE: Developer tools: Iphone has 2 and 3D compilers that are optimal for making games. Microsoft tools will piss you off , and takes longer to make games.
3) Proper feedback: Alot of up and comming developer like myself have seen where you release a freeware game and hear tons of compliants!! Like ohh this game doesnt have multi-touch its crap. Mean while they dont understand that not all developers have access to the best tools.
The solution is simple , consumers must tell Microsoft give developers easier and better tools to work with. That way we can deliver bettter games to you. Us developers need your help to make better games.
Here is a screenshot of Resident evil on touchpro2 , looks nice. I dont know when it will be released though.
i would like also to play very nice interactive games, but with all the functionalitys of wm6.5
i never wanted to buy a not adaptive system like iphone, just only to play games..
yeah the tools for wm6 is also a crap... the problem is that many wm6 phones have different specifications, this problem apple dont has...
but everything that gone wrong on wm6 and older,.. its going to be a way better on wp7. finally...
working on
Yes most developers are getting fustrated and consumers as well. Alot of the problems with resistive screens , so there is no multi-touch. Iam working on this resident evil 5 port, but its so tough. I cant make it 3D but just trying to make it fun for people to play. This screen shot is what I done so far.
yeah dude, that's nice...i support you in this project, do it!!, it's fine!
i think that i should change my device, ther's nothing ahead in Wm 6.5
bubble breaker, solitaire and pac man, that's all....
i think that Android and iPhone can give us a "little" more...
tims demo
Here a demo of a really fun game Tims key Quest. The controls are easier than most action platformers and the graphics are simple and smooth. Try it and tell me what you think. Android is not really that good trust me, but the iphone is a monster . Iphone is good and has solid games . I think people buy thier games because its 99 cents. Thats why I price my windows mobile games for only 99 cents , because after buying the phone, your broke.
If you want me to add more games here just let me know!!
I think you're being a little unfair on the WM platform.
I use - and have developed for - winmo, android and iPhoneOS , and can tell you that the MS coding solution is FAR superior AND easier to develop for than either of the competitiors. xcode is one of the worst programming environments i have ever seen, and every iPhone developer i've spoken to has said they wish they could use visual studio instead.
As has already been mentioned, WinMo devices are more 'tools' than 'toys'. You don't get a winmo phone for playing games, you get one becuase it's reliable, versatile, and well priced. The iPhone - while being great to wave in front of your friends in the pub - is crap in EVERY other respect. They break VERY often, the code is nightmarish, and you can only do what apple WANT you to do with it. Contrary to what you may think - the hardware isn't much higher spec than the standard winmo devices at the moment (worse in many respects) . WinMo has many classic games available including the Quake and Doom series, Guitar Hero, Lemmings, all the PopCap games, and many many more....it's not meant to be a gaming device though. As i said, it's a grown-ups phone...a tool...for getting work done. It just happens to look good and perform as-well or better than the iphone while it's doing it
Having said that, i'm glad to see you're making progress..keep it up and good luck )
Can't we all just play Pocket Uno and get along?
There are so many excellent games for the HD I don't even know where to start. Countless 2D platform games and shooters, countless puzzle games, stuff like SCUMM for playing classic quests, various emulators, RPGs (Creatonia, Zenonia), strategy games, any board game you can imagine.
You also have 3D shooters, but those are generally not so fun to play for the lack of multi-touch. Multi touch would help make it playable, but seriously, you need a gaming system to enjoy a 3D shooter, there's just too many controls needed for it to be enjoyable on any phone.
i think you're buying the wrong device dude
iphone is more multimedia + game phone
so if you want buy a device for listening music, play game, maybe little suft internet
iphone is your right device for u
Windows mobile is PDA...
with winmo you can change user interface.. cook rom... remote pc ...etc
and the app in winmo is more for help you at work.. not for fun maybe or serius work
not for much fun like iphone...
well I have different opinion becoz i fall in both categories
Game and Business
first thing let me clear one thing is HD is not a gaming device its more business phone. But its not like you won't have games on HD I have NFS and other game which works awesome on HD.
iphone is not a business phone and they made this phone only for teenagers who want music and fun. its not multitasking and not like HD so forget comparing your HD with iphone. i don't like iphone becoz they are so arrogant.
XDA not allows to post crack tools or games otherwise you never complain about games on HD
you can google it and you can find N number of games which work on HTC Touch HD
One best thing which i love for my HD is its work gr8 with Garmin Maps becoz of this i can drive in any country . Now this you won't get in iphone and its not tat easy
FpseCe
http://www.fpsece.net/
Most of the good old Playstation Games are playable. Test it and stop shouting.
Greetz
Infinite Dreams have a descent looking games for PPC. K-Rally, Sky Force, Super Miners and Explode Arena. here is a youtube video of K-Rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJFyVvckxb0
Just a quick question: Is this phone's gaming-thingies more for the hardcore or could potentially be for the hardcore? or is it geared toward the casual gamer? considering other platforms have Dead Space and NFS Shift? Having second thoughts
I'd say casual, it has xbox live integration however the current selection of games on offer are either overpriced or indie / casual orientated. ilomilo for example.
The whole idea of gaming on a mobile device is that it's casual. It's deigned for people who want to play a game while on the bus, during free time, in queues.
Yes, gaming on mobiles will improve but they'll always be casual. Why would someone want to play on a 3.7" screen when they have a large HDTV and XBOX / PS at home?
Even in technologically advanced games such as Dead Space, it's still designed to give you something to do when you have a little time to waste.
Casual, in fact, mobile gaming will always be consider casual in my opinion due to the fact that they have to last all day. I personally wouldn't take hardcore gaming serious on a phone when I have a laptop that can run just about any game.
WP7 - casual
IOS/Android -hardcore and casual, especially with HDMI out or video out. You basically have a Wii and a Playstation in your hand.
Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Why would I want to play watered down versions of games? I will still choose computer over mobile any day, mainly because I don't have to make calls on my computer. Oh and
Don't see smartphones OS' being taken serious for hardcore gaming, unless you consider the tablet counterparts with the larger screen size.
A phone can't match the hardware performance of an Xbox 360, PS3 or a new generation PC because of the size constraints, battery restriction, etc. You can't really compare a game console that is always plugged to the power source to a phone, or even a tablet, that has to use a small battery.
Now, phones still get some really good games, but a console/pc will still be a better place for hardcore gamers.
Both.
They're the best games I've ever played on a mobile. Coming from years on Android I thought they had some decent games until I came over.
Some are Casual, some are "Hardcore" (especially since you describe NFS Shift as Hardcore, WP7 has NFS Undercover).
The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
Who said anything about matching hardware performance of today? Fact smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC capabilities. Its like you guys want to argue for fun, but this is a fact.
WP7 is lonely gaming. When im around my friend with a iphone, I can pull out my android phone and play against him. Everyone doesn't have an iphone, and everyone doesn't have a Android, but we can play against each other effortlessly.
Hardcore to me is everything beyond Angry birds style of gaming.
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The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
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Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
The only thing Xbox LIVE wins at is chat. Game Center pawns at everything else. And you know what Xbox LIVE is available on every other major smartphone OS.
Microsoft has a huge chance to take this market over, but right now their screwing it up.
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Game Center pawns at everything else.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
This is supposed to be casual.
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canadariot2312 said:
Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
canadariot2312 said:
Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
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I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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Halo port? Isn't NOVA out, change the name and its the same thing as Halo.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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why not? According to you, every OS rocks except wp7.
nrfitchett4 said:
yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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The PSP2 is designed for one thing, gaming obviously, at least I hope Sony is marketing it as that.
I've only played Halo once and it seems pretty fun. Would be really cool if they had the energy sword on the port.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player.
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Yes I have. It reminds me more of the Nintendo DS gaming, which is casual.
Just goes as the title. You think its hard for normal developers get noticed with their games?
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Yes and it will always be this way. MS will promote their services first.
I agree. On my iphone and on my captivate when i had them i would download any game that looked slightly interesting to me. Now i hardly give any games that arent xbox live a chance. I dont do it on purpose im just like eh no achievements no fun lol. I wonder if Microsoft will allow an alternative in the market like Openfeint for non xbox live games.
Disagree, good games are spread by word of mouth... there isnt many good games that arent xbox live sadly... bye bye brains and stuff got through because they are good...
Sure I download lots of various free games. Impossible Shoota and Alpajax/Spell it are good exmples of games that are doing well without xBox live support. However I really want Alphajax to have full xbox live support. I am an achievement whore!
Lol I do try non Xbox live titles but whenever I go into game section I see Xbox live first so I find fun ones there first
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Yes, There needs to be more filtering in the market.
More specifically:
When I go into the Market and select Applications (Not Games) I should see Applications only not games aswell, that kinda defeats the point.
When going into games, there's a Xbox Live category, this indicates to me that this is where I'll find Xbox Live games but they're still included in Top, New etc. They should be separate from the others.
Well their the best games available.
But is there a way for a normal dev to get a Xbox live title on their game title?
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Actually I've found a lot of great non-Live titles. A lot of them are free and ad-supported so it's a win-win. Impossible Shoota is probably the best example of this: the game has excellent gameplay, great looking graphics, online leaderboards, and is free thanks to ad-support. Bye Bye Brain is another great example; it's a tower defense zombie game with really excellent graphics and deep gameplay.
-AlphaJax (Unlimited trial)
-Bubble Birds (Free; 'Premium' version $1.99)
-Bubble Jump (Free)
-Bye Bye Brain Lite (Free; Full version $1.99)
-Impossible Shoota (Free)
-Quandra (Free)
-Scrambled (Free)
-Swipy Man (Free)
-Unite (Free)
So far, I've been more impressed with the free games than the XBL games. Usually XBL titles are just a complete ripoff (Rocket Riot for seven bucks? Really?) or are quick and dirty ports from iOS or Android that aren't as good as they should be (Need For Speed).
what ticks me off about xbox live games is that its too common practice to throw a couple of achievements to any ol game and slap a big xbox logo on it... i think its crap and a lot of the time dissapoints users to what they should expect from an xbox title on a platform that its main selling point is this
IMHO games that should come to mind and should be what an xbox live game would be are titles like The Harvest and ilomilo. games that have amazing graphics, gameplay, and overall worthy of what users expect from xbox. not some tetris (for example) some simple, mobile game or iphone port with some achievements baked in
mike21pr said:
what ticks me off about xbox live games is that its too common practice to throw a couple of achievements to any ol game and slap a big xbox logo on it... i think its crap and a lot of the time dissapoints users to what they should expect from an xbox title on a platform that its main selling point is this
IMHO games that should come to mind and should be what an xbox live game would be are titles like The Harvest and ilomilo. games that have amazing graphics, gameplay, and overall worthy of what users expect from xbox. not some tetris (for example) some simple, mobile game or iphone port with some achievements baked in
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Completely agree. Microsoft did a good job luring big-name developers into WP7 and now I hope they encourage those devs to make quality games that truly live up to the Xbox Live name.
OGCF said:
Completely agree. Microsoft did a good job luring big-name developers into WP7 and now I hope they encourage those devs to make quality games that truly live up to the Xbox Live name.
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Sadly in the beginning it's a waiting game...
I think they are shadowing normal games but for good reason. They have some bigger developers like Microsoft themselves, EA and Namco. Obviously everyone loves achievements regardless of how easy or hard they are. Achievements are what makes you try to finish a game even though it sucks. And of course my favorite is the leaderboard. Leaderboard is whats makes me come back to a game after I havent played it for weeks. When my friend finally beats my highscore I want to take back the top spot. And of course all this syncs up nicely to Xbox Live. And I can see all of this data on my PC or Xbox. So yeah being an Xbox Live game is more then just a title on the icon and some cheesy achievements.
Now in contrast I bought A Beanstalk Tale for $0.99. I wrote an article about the developer and wanted to support him. This game has awesome graphics, has its own online leaderboard, and even has its own achievements and a museum of sorts to showcase everything you gathered. But unfortunately even though this game is really good, I don't care about it as much as a lesser Xbox Live game. The reason is the leaderboard is a bunch of people I don't know. The achievements don't increase my gamerscore. So while I still play it occasionally it doesn't have that psychological motivation that an Xbox Live game has.
Yeah I agree. Some of them don't deserve it.
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There are good games in both ..but games from xBox live do get more exposure .. but some of the xBox live games are in a class of their own ..
you can fins some of the games that we reviewed it here : http://www.bestwp7games.com
http://mobilitydigest.com/indie-dev-making-six-figure-salary-from-wp7-ad-based-games/
i say this article says it all.
Gang, now having all three popular major smartphone systems has allowed me to sample the gaming offerings they provide. It looks like WP7 provides the most fun and best games of all of them....simplistic and casual and high quality type games. There's a larger amount of more enjoyable games on WP7 than on iOS or Android.
I'm not a biased person and love all smartphone systems equally so please keep the rants and misunderstandings out . And am merely reporting what I'm experiencing. I'm driven to WP7 for the gaming enjoyment and spend more time playing games on it.
The current games I like and find very enjoyable for passing time are...not in ranked order:
ilomilo
Tiki Towers (I know, it's also on other systems)
iBlast Moki
Need for Speed: Undercover
Fruit Ninja (I know, it's also on other systems)
Bubble Town 2
Tower Bloxx New York
I Dig It
Parachute Panic
Jigsaw Guru
Rise of Glory
Chicks'n'Vixens
Sketch Defence
Word Hunt
Word Tangle
Peg Jump
Frog Log
Solitaire (Offscreen Technologies version)
One game that seems interesting, but I don't understand, is Pocket God. If anyone knows how to play it; what the objective is, let me know.
MartyLK said:
Gang, now having all three popular major smartphone systems has allowed me to sample the gaming offerings they provide. It looks like WP7 provides the most fun and best games of all of them....simplistic and casual and high quality type games. There's a larger amount of more enjoyable games on WP7 than on iOS or Android.
I'm not a biased person and love all smartphone systems equally so please keep the rants and misunderstandings out . And am merely reporting what I'm experiencing. I'm driven to WP7 for the gaming enjoyment and spend more time playing games on it.
The current games I like and find very enjoyable for passing time are...not in ranked order:
ilomilo
Tiki Towers (I know, it's also on other systems)
iBlast Moki
Need for Speed: Undercover
Fruit Ninja (I know, it's also on other systems)
Bubble Town 2
Tower Bloxx New York
I Dig It
Parachute Panic
Jigsaw Guru
Rise of Glory
Chicks'n'Vixens
Sketch Defence
Word Hunt
Word Tangle
Peg Jump
Frog Log
Solitaire (Offscreen Technologies version)
One game that seems interesting, but I don't understand, is Pocket God. If anyone knows how to play it; what the objective is, let me know.
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Agreed... Pocket God is a strange one though... I mean it really plays out like just a bunch of ways to kill your little minions with a ton of mini--games involved. Really just a game for those who love achievements.
Casual maybe, but personally i disagree. some devices/platforms have the same game with more features. Take fruit ninja for example, it has multiplayer on another platform.
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Casual maybe, but personally i disagree. some devices/platforms have the same game with more features. Take fruit ninja for example, it has multiplayer on another platform.
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FruitNinja is one of the worst port games... Glitches and missing function.
The List of Great games should not miss The Harvest
ios has games like Dead Space 2 and Infinity Blade, android has multiplayer and FPS games, WP7 is full of iphone ports or games that are more expensive than other platforms, no real time MP - I dont see how its the superior gaming platform.
efjay said:
ios has games like Dead Space 2 and Infinity Blade, android has multiplayer and FPS games, WP7 is full of iphone ports or games that are more expensive than other platforms, no real time MP - I dont see how its the superior gaming platform.
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Nicely said.
Agree. Aside from the ilomilo (great game btw) and The Harvest (which i couldn't finish due to savegame crashes) most games really are more expensive ports of iOS and Android games. Dunno why xbox cheevos make 0.99c games like pocket god, fruit ninja, etc more expensive. Still, M$ needs to step it up. Currently i'm playing Real Racing 2, Pocket Legends and Dundef (cross platform online multiplayer iOS and android) which imho M$ should get for their platform
There are a lot of games I didn't include, which are no doubt excellent. But I didn't include them because I don't play them or find them casually and simplistically fun. There are similar or exact games on other systems, but I included them because they make up the entirety of the offerings that can be had on this system. When Angry Birds comes out for WP7, it also will be included in the "fun" factor of WP7 gaming.
WP7's own unique games are much better than anything comparative found on any other system.
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Agree. Aside from the ilomilo (great game btw) and The Harvest (which i couldn't finish due to savegame crashes) most games really are more expensive ports of iOS and Android games. Dunno why xbox cheevos make 0.99c games like pocket god, fruit ninja, etc more expensive. Still, M$ needs to step it up. Currently i'm playing Real Racing 2, Pocket Legends and Dundef (cross platform online multiplayer iOS and android) which imho M$ should get for their platform
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Right, MS should put some great gameloft games like gangstar, modern combat, nova, etc.. even my old nexus one has it but i cant play it since the multitouch sucks. Dead space is another example (xperia play will be having it).. im just glad i can play dead space on ipad.. i really love that game! pocket legends is boring IMO.
Ilomilo alone is the definition of what a cellphone game should be. It's something you can play in short or long intervals, it's perfect for a handheld device, the graphics are great, the controls are flawless, I could go on and on but what it comes down to is no other mobile game compares.
I'd say wp7 has the potential to be the best of the 3, but has a ways to go before that is the case. There are some excellent games, however.
Maybe when the nextgen devices become available, better games (or ports lol) will alsp come out. But until then, my wp7 stays in the box while i play on my iP
Even a Microsoft fanboy like me can't agree the the OP. WP7 is a joke compared to iOS. Sure it may be a matter of time but as of today calling it the best smartphone gaming platform is being delusional.
Also, by the time great games like Dead Space come out on WP7 (which is also more wishful thinking, and will most likely be another port of the iOS version IF it ever does come) even better games would have already rolled out on iOS and android. Fiinal Fantasy 3, the DS version has already been announced for the iOS, Dungeon Defenders 2nd Wave already demoed for Android. Also, check out Desert Winds for the Android. These alone would make people think twice about gaming on WP7
What is tying down phones is the lack of hardware controls. When the Playstation phone comes on Android it will raise the bar out of sight. Even if there were no new games, just the PS1 emulator, it would dominate any smartphone.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/sony-announces-playstation-suite/
And other Android phones will get some of the benefits.
Microsoft can't compete with this, but they can at least reduce the damage if they:
-Launch an XBox phone.
-Produce a standard bluetooth controller that be added to any Windows Phone.
Then they will have to rely on new content, but can they get the necessary market share among gamers?
They are in a tough spot because they are competing against players (Nintendo, Sony) that have experience with portable gaming and existing content that can be used immediately.
Better position than Apple though.
I found another one called Krashlander. This is the pure, simplistic type, fun that really makes WP7 the best there is for smartphone gaming. Of course, the WP7-only games like ilomilo and others help it be the best, too. Of the 3 major smartphone systems, WP7 happens to be produced by the world's leading gaming company and it already, at this early age, shows.