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Hi,
First, consider I am a beginner so I do not know the keywords you use. (like brick-unbrick-cm10-flash-rom-debugg-recovery mode...)
I want to benefit from my phone.
1- By rooting it. Please tell me what is the latest/tested/safest/compatible method to do so.
2- By having IF possible the latest android version after the latest/official update that is the 4.0.4 for my phone.
I really want a good guide that won't give me almost any errors because I will not know how to deal with them and if putting the latest android version will do so, I won't do it. But my main concern is rooting it.
[Edit]I did some research since I still got no replies so I found there is the Bin4ry method. Is this the one for me?
Thanks for a detailed answer for a beginner.
Your website is great
(I already created a topic before but I was given 2-3 different methods so I didn't know which one to choose so I hope this time you can help)
About my phone:
I have an LG Nitro HD P930 bought from the USA so they wrote on it at&t and updated with the LG tool to ICS 4.0.4.
Baseband version : APQ8060/MDM9200.
Kernel version : 3.0.8-perf
Build number : IMM76D
Software version : LG-P930-V20c-JUN-25-2012
Forum Rules
Specifically.. Rule #1 & 5
Does no one read stickies?
I really want you to take a look at the XDA Mantra.. I couldn't put it better myself:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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When I first got here from the Sony Ericsson dev forums of my previous phone (w810i) I knew absolutely nothing about android, or any smart phones.. However, I've been doing web/gfx design & coding for many years and I know how to learn fast. That being said, I didn't feel it necessary to make one thread and before I knew it I had rooted, and flashed a custom recov/ROM within 24 hours. Now yes, I had my share of problems but I was actually quite well versed because of it..
The moral is that you'd be answering the same question asked by the next guy if you did the same thing. Trial and error is how humans learn.
First, if you are a beginner as you said, what is the reason you think you need root? Most users probably don't even need it.
Second, and im sure this is going to be your next thread; you have official ICS which means locked boot loader. In layman's terms, no roms can be flashed without unbricking.
Either way, there's literally 5 or 6 rooting guides.. Did you even try?
This community frowns on people who continuously ask the same questions especially when the answer is on the front page of that very forum... It gets very frustrating to see the same question asked day after day by people who aren't even willing to try. And the fact that you've already asked once and now felt it necessary to make a whole new thread to do it again tells me rooting and modding isn't for you.
There's literally no negative result from a failed root attempt.. However, succeeding will void your warranty, and if you don't know how to find resources on your own you'll probably end up with a bricked phone (won't boot and/or worse... )
Questions are fine, not bothering to do any research or trial/error is not.
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---------- Post added at 11:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------
Judging by your +Thanks I take it you see what I'm saying, however looking back I just want to add that I'm not trying to make you look stupid or single you out.. and I apologize if it came off that way.
To answer your question better: typically the latest guide with the most recent replies is the one people are using. Just open the thread and read the last few pages to see if anyone has linked a newer guide or better method.
Afterward I'm assuming you'll want to try jb at some time which will mean you'll have to unbrick. There's a newer unbrick guide that is specifically designed to help with people who've flashed the official ICS and licked their bootloader. I suggest that one. Too hard to link on the fly so you'll have to do some recon
Good luck and thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts.
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First, thanks for replying.
First, I am not the kind of person you are talking about. In fact, I feel sad for creating this thread now after your reply.
I want to learn but I find it hard to find the resources. Give me a good source of 10 pages and I am ready to read it to learn.
For example now, I saw different methods one of them sparkyroot one of them the bin4ry method and others but I don't know with which one should I proceed with. I don't know which one is compatible with my phone. I don't know if any user having my phone is facing problems after rooting since every popular thread have a minimum of 200 pages.
I posted this thread because I am scared of "trying" like you said and making an error while rooting and having my phone bricked and it is not a simple error I will get but a major one since I am modifying the root of my phone so I do care if my phone will face any error. I don't want to pay for a new phone or searching for someone to repair it.
I am still 16 years old, trying to learn, but it is so hard for me to find the tools on Android, none of my friends know anything about these stuffs and there are no tech guys in my place if I have questions. In two years I will be in university studying in CCE and this is to show you I like the programming stuffs but I need help starting. I do like exploring and learning like I do on my laptop and on my Ipad but the guides here are harder to find. When I first wanted to jailbreak my Ipad, I 've read a lot of step by step guides and found redmondpie.com which gives answers and guides to almost everything but I don't know where to start for Android since there are tons of models, forums, threads, methods etc.
As I said in the title, I want to make the max out of my phone so I want to be able to have the latest updates since the last one is ICS, getting rid of the useless apps, managing the startup apps, adding the coolest and most useful tweaks like I try to do on my jailbroken Ipad. To sum up, doing EVERYTHING none of the people around me know how to do and being able to have kind of a unique phone full of nice tweaks.
I hope you really understood what type of person I am.
So back to my problem,
I didn't know "There's literally no negative result from a failed root attempt".
I read that the sparkyroot uses an "old exploit"
I read that that the bin4ry method is new but I didn't find my model listed in it, in fact, I was more confused when I new there are models of my models like when I read v20c and v20e etc so I didn't know if I will have my phone bricked while using a bad method.
I don't know which ROMs are compatible with my device and my main problem is : I can't find answers for MY device since there are tons of guides and devices on Android unlike on IOS where you find the same guides, problems and solutions (I am not saying IOS is better in fact I like Android for its open OS based on Linux if I read well).
So I came here searching for not only the answers but the latest answers in which errors are fixed and which will not create problems with my device.
I knew XDA is one of the best communities for Android users but I can't seem to find easy guides for beginning and developing my knowledge.
I thanked your answer because you took time replying me but I need any help for starting. For example I found here a really good explanation of ROM http://droidlessons.com/what-are-roms-for-android/ and I really liked the "What kind of benefits can a custom ROM give me?" but I am scared of "2. Custom ROMs may have bugs that cause your device to have issues" and this is why I am posting this thread to know more of ROMs particular to my model version, and it is not as simple as that to find answers for my phone's questions I mentionned on the thread.
Proceeding
Yes.. I also don't like the people who want the answer directly without caring about all the effort the dev made and what they are really doing so I understand why you first posted your reply.
I will not do anything before wednesday (I have exams :s )
But first if I want to root, the latest method is the bin4ry one if I searched well.
I ve read about superoneclick http://androidjinn.com/how-to-root-lg-nitro-hd-the-easy-way.html but I told the guy who posted the thread about my first thread I posted on XDA so he told me to try the sparkyroot method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044645 but then someone told me "TPSparkyRoot is based on an old exploit and works on v18f(4.0.3) only. Thats just for rooting if you want to install CWM, you mush "unbrick" your phone."
So, should I proceed with the bin4ry method? (I am scared having errors as I told you so is this the one I should try?)
After having my phone rooted, to have JB on it, you told me I should unbrick it (did I understand you well?) To do this, I've read "Just rooting, you shouldn't lose your data.... following an unbrick guide on the other hand, you will." does this mean like a "format" for my android? I do not mind doing so because in that way I will have a new phone wiped from all the things I installed on it.
So, I should backup all of my data first.
But which unbrick guide should I follow, the latest one on the LG Nitro HD section is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597488
So again the same question, is this the one for me? Should I do it after rooting my phone? And do you know known bugs?
I am detailing you my answer to show you I am searching but I still need help.
Thanks.
Wow.. Loaded question.
Truepeace said:
First, I am not the kind of person you are talking about. In fact, I feel sad for creating this thread now after your reply.
I want to learn but I find it hard to find the resources. Give me a good source of 10 pages and I am ready to read it to learn.
For example now, I saw different methods one of them sparkyroot one of them the bin4ry method and others but I don't know with which one should I proceed with. I don't know which one is compatible with my phone. I don't know if any user having my phone is facing problems after rooting since every popular thread have a minimum of 200 pages.
I posted this thread because I am scared of "trying" like you said and making an error while rooting and having my phone bricked and it is not a simple error I will get but a major one since I am modifying the root of my phone so I do care if my phone will face any error. I don't want to pay for a new phone or searching for someone to repair it.
I am still 16 years old, trying to learn, but it is so hard for me to find the tools on Android, none of my friends know anything about these stuffs and there are no tech guys in my place if I have questions. In two years I will be in university studying in CCE and this is to show you I like the programming stuffs but I need help starting. I do like exploring and learning like I do on my laptop and on my Ipad but the guides here are harder to find. When I first wanted to jailbreak my Ipad, I 've read a lot of step by step guides and found redmondpie.com which gives answers and guides to almost everything but I don't know where to start for Android since there are tons of models, forums, threads, methods etc.
As I said in the title, I want to make the max out of my phone so I want to be able to have the latest updates since the last one is ICS, getting rid of the useless apps, managing the startup apps, adding the coolest and most useful tweaks like I try to do on my jailbroken Ipad. To sum up, doing EVERYTHING none of the people around me know how to do and being able to have kind of a unique phone full of nice tweaks.
I hope you really understood what type of person I am.
So back to my problem,
I didn't know "There's literally no negative result from a failed root attempt".
I read that the sparkyroot uses an "old exploit"
I read that that the bin4ry method is new but I didn't find my model listed in it, in fact, I was more confused when I new there are models of my models like when I read v20c and v20e etc so I didn't know if I will have my phone bricked while using a bad method.
I don't know which ROMs are compatible with my device and my main problem is : I can't find answers for MY device since there are tons of guides and devices on Android unlike on IOS where you find the same guides, problems and solutions (I am not saying IOS is better in fact I like Android for its open OS based on Linux if I read well).
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Not sure exactly what you mean.. If you searched you'd have found on the very first page of this very sub-forum:
Root LG Nitro HD on ICS
In post # 4 you can see that the method linked worked.. and this was posted this month.. Not sure why you have so much trouble finding this info.. It's right here, and if you notice; if that fellow had bothered to search, he'd have found the same info that the first response provided. It's literally all right here. XDA is usually the one-stop-shop for all required info and resources, so long as you're willing to look.
Nevertheless, I've tried both of these methods, and both worked first try for me. However, you usually only have to do this once, and Ive done it both on GB when I first got it, and then again on ics 4.0.4 when I updated like a moron without reading... This was a great example of a "lesson learned" for me.. and trust me, I am better for it.
I don't understand what you're "scared" of... Basically, as long as you follow the guides properly you'll never have a problem..
However, if you are flashing custom ports, or beta release roms that are known to be unstable (it will always say); then your worst "fear" would be having to follow the Unbrick Guide, which shouldn't take more than 30-45 mins tops after the first run-through in which you obtain all the required files. Unless you do something stupid -- usually caused by not following/reading guides properly.. again, most of the time human-error is the only culprit of bricks -- your phone will never be "broken beyond repair."
Warnings are typically clearly stated -- I can't stress this enough: READ READ READ (replies, comments, reports, bugs.. all listed in the same thread as the guide itself).
So I came here searching for not only the answers but the latest answers in which errors are fixed and which will not create problems with my device.
I knew XDA is one of the best communities for Android users but I can't seem to find easy guides for beginning and developing my knowledge.
I thanked your answer because you took time replying me but I need any help for starting. For example I found here a really good explanation of ROM http://droidlessons.com/what-are-roms-for-android/ and I really liked the "What kind of benefits can a custom ROM give me?" but I am scared of "2. Custom ROMs may have bugs that cause your device to have issues" and this is why I am posting this thread to know more of ROMs particular to my model version, and it is not as simple as that to find answers for my phone's questions I mentionned on the thread.
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Again, "bugs" and "issues" usually means random reboots, or force closing of apps... Nothing serious. Flashing CM nightly (trusted dev) is very safe IMO.. Flashing custom ports is probably the most risky. but again, nothing an unbrick cant fix in 45 mins or so.
Truepeace said:
Yes.. I also don't like the people who want the answer directly without caring about all the effort the dev made and what they are really doing so I understand why you first posted your reply.
I will not do anything before wednesday (I have exams :s )
But first if I want to root, the latest method is the bin4ry one if I searched well.
I ve read about superoneclick http://androidjinn.com/how-to-root-lg-nitro-hd-the-easy-way.html but I told the guy who posted the thread about my first thread I posted on XDA so he told me to try the sparkyroot method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044645 but then someone told me "TPSparkyRoot is based on an old exploit and works on v18f(4.0.3) only. Thats just for rooting if you want to install CWM, you mush "unbrick" your phone."
So, should I proceed with the bin4ry method? (I am scared having errors as I told you so is this the one I should try?)
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It was more a general look at the rules. Not specifically saying you're like that, I just think he worded it well so I thought I'd share.
Anyways, from my experience as long as you have the drivers properly installed and don't let your antivirus delete the zergrush or other exploit file (because it will), superoneclick has always worked first try for me. However some people report having to try multiple times so just keep trying.
As I said, all rooting guides use pretty much the same exact tools, just worded differently or a different app that does the same thing.
After having my phone rooted, to have JB on it, you told me I should unbrick it (did I understand you well?) To do this, I've read "Just rooting, you shouldn't lose your data.... following an unbrick guide on the other hand, you will." does this mean like a "format" for my android? I do not mind doing so because in that way I will have a new phone wiped from all the things I installed on it.
So, I should backup all of my data first.
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Yes, the official ICS update locks the bootloader so you have to follow the same guide you would if you had "bricked" your phone.
Flashing any ROMs or doing pretty much any modding requires a full wipe. Simply back up your data (I suggest helium).
After you flash a custom recovery (CWM), you can do what's known as a Nandroid backup, which (basically) backs up every last detail of your current running ROM including settings for all installed apps, games, etc. as well as settings for the OS itself, wifi info, etc. -- Let me put it this way, if you restore a nandroid backup, it's as if you never wiped/flashed anything else. This is the best benefit of flashing a custom recov. (IMO) besides flashing roms of course.
Rooting is very non-intrusive.. Unless you have apps that require root, you wouldn't even notice. There's no risk of errors or bricked via root itself, however.. Root means "admin" or "full" access. You will have access to things that are normally hidden/protected from accidental changes.. Similar to the control panel in windows.
As with any computer, If you go deleting things or editing important options like a moron after obtaining root then yes, you will have problems. That's the whole point of why phones don't come with root access.. People who aren't smart enough to figure it out most likely aren't smart enough to handle it.. (Ie. General public).
But which unbrick guide should I follow, the latest one on the LG Nitro HD section is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597488
So again the same question, is this the one for me? Should I do it after rooting my phone? And do you know known bugs?
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I'm not sure what you mean by bugs.. It works 100%. Its user error that is the problem.
Google "how to unlock p930 bootloader".. Its clear as day
I am detailing you my answer to show you I am searching but I still need help.
Thanks.
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That's the point.. Read the mantra more closely. The whole point is to try.. You learn by trying.. If you're afraid to get a little dirty sometimes, then this stuff probably isn't for you.
One last tip: Read guides fully before starting and make sure all files are still available/alive. This ensures you don't get stuck half way through. You'll thank me later.
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PS: mattman was kind enough to make an updated repo for us.. It's on this same sub-forum:
[May 05, 2013] Repository
This contains an updated list of almost all important resources. Just read the guide you're interested in, and like I already said; go to the last page and read every post from the last 3-5 pages if necessary. Most of the time, this is where the latest bugs, and newest updated info is located in any thread.. Its very simple. Did you read my post or just skim through it?
PPS: HO!NO! has been kind enough to offer a mirror of all the required files for unbricking, as well as many other useful resources. If you look around you'll find everything you need right here.
Heres the guide you want for rooting official ICS:
Note: Disregard the word "Bell" in the title.. It'd be the same for any provider, so long as you're running a p930 (even then, it probably works for the 935, 936, and su640, etc.)
[GUIDE] How to ROOT Bell official v20e firmware
Here's the guide you want to use for both rooting, and unlocking bootloader if you're going to want to flash a custom recovery and/or roms:
Note: I highly recommend.. Clockworkmod Recovery is extremely useful, and nothing beats CM10.1 RC2 + Wind Kernel 2.01 as far as battery life is concerned, and the features JB offers over ICS are simply amazing.. (as long as bluetooth isn't a deal-breaker for you -- this should be fixed soon though.. we're getting very close.)
[GUIDE] Rooting and Unbricking p930/p935/p936
FYI: I found all of this info in a matter of seconds.. This is why it's so frustrating when people ask this every day.. lmao
Good luck.
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Hi, really a newbie to HTC, only played with LG, motorola, samsung and sony phones before, so some of the terminologies here are quite alien to me. So please help answer some questions of mine!!!
1. Is there a way to ensure that after unlocking BL, rooting, S-off, i can still go back to stock for warranty purposes? Because what i found out so far is that i can do this with s-off, but doesn't that mean i have to s-on again?
2. What can be done to unbrick the device? Like flashing of stock firmwares, and i don't quite understand the meaning of RUUs.
3. Some of the links posted here brings me back to posts found in the M7 forum, does it mean the methods work for both devices?
4. Is the ADB interface really an important aspect for modding HTC phones? I've never actuqally used one for the other brands though but it does see to be mentioned alot more here.
nickrule1896 said:
Hi, really a newbie to HTC, only played with LG, motorola, samsung and sony phones before, so some of the terminologies here are quite alien to me. So please help answer some questions of mine!!!
1. Is there a way to ensure that after unlocking BL, rooting, S-off, i can still go back to stock for warranty purposes? Because what i found out so far is that i can do this with s-off, but doesn't that mean i have to s-on again?
2. What can be done to unbrick the device? Like flashing of stock firmwares, and i don't quite understand the meaning of RUUs.
3. Some of the links posted here brings me back to posts found in the M7 forum, does it mean the methods work for both devices?
4. Is the ADB interface really an important aspect for modding HTC phones? I've never actuqally used one for the other brands though but it does see to be mentioned alot more here.
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Best advice I can give you is read all the stickie threads in General and have a good read around the development section, it seems like mumbo jumbo at first, but once you've read and learned the logistics... It'll come easy :good:
I just want to make sure that everything is crystal clear. I have spent weeks and many, many hours pouring over numerous, differing guides on how to root the 910V and run a custom 6.0+ ROM - all of them missing different vital chunks of information. Correct me if I am wrong:
You have to temp-root the device and quickly run an unlocking script written by an unknown source before the phone completely locks up and reboots itself. Then if you're lucky and the script is successful after 17 attempts and 4 battery re-charges, the stock 5.1.1 ROM will refuse to boot and you'll only be able to access the stock recovery with an "unlocked" flag on it. Then you'll go to install TWRP, try and flash a custom MM ROM only to find that wifi, camera, and all sensors don't work on any MM ROM without flashing the updated CPD1 bootloader firmware (this is not explicitly mentioned in multiple different guides for rooting and unlocking, including the official): Example here and here. Oh, and good luck using the thread search tool to find replies that mention this wifi issue in any of the 500 pages of replies that follow the official rooting and unlocking guide! The search tool has been broken for weeks and you'll get: "Sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. Please go back and retry or wait a minute. The Administrators have been notified of this error". Clearly Admins either aren't being contacted or don't care.
Then if you are repeatedly unsuccessful in flashing the updated bootloader firmware using the BPA1-CPD1 Hybrid Lollipop ROM developed by hsbadr in this guide, you might try and flash the stock 6.0+ bootloader firmware found here, (because you can't find anything with the broken search tool, it seems like a logical thing to do, and there are absolutely NO write-ups that mention extremely simple things - (like whether or not the updated stock VZW bootloader firmware will re-lock the bootloader.) However, if you do this, the bootloader re-locks itself, the phone bricks itself into a boot loop, and you have to factory flash VZW's MM ROM. If you manage to do that without completely losing your sanity, then you have to flash VZW's 5.1.1 ROM while on 6.0.1 firmware, which will take 6+ tries to get working and might not work at all. Then you have to boot into 5.1.1, re-temp root, quickly re-run the shady bootloader unlocker script before the phone force-restarts, go back to having an unbootable ROM, re-flash TWRP, then flash a custom 6.0+ ROM.
Am I understanding all of this right? I just want to make sure that I am not unaware of something, because god forbid anyone ever be unaware of something, lest this YOU DIDN'T READ!!! YOU DIDN'T READ!!!!! mantra get thrown around - as if any of you could seriously have the audacity to claim that these cluttered, fragmented guides on 15 different links represent some sort of fool-proof cohesive and coherent guide in your warped minds.
So am I missing anything? Some crucial step that I still might be unaware of? No? Great. Rant done. TL;DR: This process is waaaaaay too complicated for most people. I put myself in this category as a professional engineer that's rooted and flashed custom ROMs on many different phones.
notedroidbrokedroid said:
I just want to make sure that everything is crystal clear. I have spent weeks and many, many hours pouring over numerous, differing guides on how to root the 910V and run a custom 6.0+ ROM - all of them missing different vital chunks of information. Correct me if I am wrong:
You have to temp-root the device and quickly run an unlocking script written by an unknown source before the phone completely locks up and reboots itself. Then if you're lucky and the script is successful after 17 attempts and 4 battery re-charges, the stock 5.1.1 ROM will refuse to boot and you'll only be able to access the stock recovery with an "unlocked" flag on it. Then you'll go to install TWRP, try and flash a custom MM ROM only to find that wifi, camera, and all sensors don't work on any MM ROM without flashing the updated CPD1 bootloader firmware (this is not explicitly mentioned in multiple different guides for rooting and unlocking, including the official): Example here and here. Oh, and good luck using the thread search tool to find replies that mention this wifi issue in any of the 500 pages of replies that follow the official rooting and unlocking guide! The search tool has been broken for weeks and you'll get: "Sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. Please go back and retry or wait a minute. The Administrators have been notified of this error". Clearly Admins either aren't being contacted or don't care.
Then if you are repeatedly unsuccessful in flashing the updated bootloader firmware using the BPA1-CPD1 Hybrid Lollipop ROM developed by hsbadr in this guide, you might try and flash the stock 6.0+ bootloader firmware found here, (because you can't find anything with the broken search tool, it seems like a logical thing to do, and there are absolutely NO write-ups that mention extremely simple things - (like whether or not the updated stock VZW bootloader firmware will re-lock the bootloader.) However, if you do this, the bootloader re-locks itself, the phone bricks itself into a boot loop, and you have to factory flash VZW's MM ROM. If you manage to do that without completely losing your sanity, then you have to flash VZW's 5.1.1 ROM while on 6.0.1 firmware, which will take 6+ tries to get working and might not work at all. Then you have to boot into 5.1.1, re-temp root, quickly re-run the shady bootloader unlocker script before the phone force-restarts, go back to having an unbootable ROM, re-flash TWRP, then flash a custom 6.0+ ROM.
Am I understanding all of this right? I just want to make sure that I am not unaware of something, because god forbid anyone ever be unaware of something, lest this YOU DIDN'T READ!!! YOU DIDN'T READ!!!!! mantra get thrown around - as if any of you could seriously have the audacity to claim that these cluttered, fragmented guides on 15 different links represent some sort of fool-proof cohesive and coherent guide in your warped minds.
So am I missing anything? Some crucial step that I still might be unaware of? No? Great. Rant done. TL;DR: This process is waaaaaay too complicated for most people. I put myself in this category as a professional engineer that's rooted and flashed custom ROMs on many different phones.
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The processes were easy enough...and some like me had temp root on first or second try. If you've spent weeks and weeks trying to figure this all out, I'm not sure anyone can help you. There are people in these threads that have answered every question you've brought up, and helped people get through. I know you must be some kind of troll with your "one post" and claiming you've been rooting blah blah blah....engineer...blah blah blah, you should be embarrassed by your lack of understanding and ability to root and unlock. Go read some of the dopey posts by people who can't follow instructions or put a sentence together, yet were successful! I guess what I'm saying is stfu and go away.
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gcounts said:
The processes were easy enough...and some like me had temp root on first or second try.
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You can follow all of the links I posted and verify that the information I have claimed is missing, is indeed missing. I have pointed out what is missing from where and concisely explained exactly why the process for this particular phone is dangerous without said information.
Congrats on your effortless unlock and custom ROM flash. Your anecdotal success and unsubstantiated claims regarding the successes of others does not make the process objectively "easy", nor straightforward. I have flashed custom ROMs onto many devices, and this one is the most complicated, convoluted, and frustrating of them all.
gcounts said:
you should be embarrassed by your lack of understanding and ability to root and unlock.
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Ahhh, the "YOU DIDN'T READ!!!!" mantra begins! I don't know if you're aware of this, but failure is how things are learned. It's how more cohesive, better written guides surface, and it's how people like you enjoy a successful root and custom ROM. There are lots and lots of people who have ruined phones from attempting this process. I'd be willing to bet money that the people who developed these hacks certainly went through a couple.
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You can follow all of the links I posted and verify that the information I have claimed is missing, is indeed missing. I have pointed out what is missing from where and concisely explained exactly why the process for this particular phone is dangerous without said information.
Congrats on your effortless unlock and custom ROM flash. Your anecdotal success and unsubstantiated claims regarding the successes of others does not make the process objectively "easy", nor straightforward. I have flashed custom ROMs onto many devices, and this one is the most complicated, convoluted, and frustrating of them all.
Ahhh, the "YOU DIDN'T READ!!!!" mantra begins! I don't know if you're aware of this, but failure is how things are learned. It's how more cohesive, better written guides surface, and it's how people like you enjoy a successful root and custom ROM. There are lots and lots of people who have ruined phones from attempting this process. I'd be willing to bet money that the people who developed these hacks certainly went through a couple.
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You know what? The people that wrote the guides did so out of the goodness of their hearts as have all of the people here that have helped others to root their phones. There's nothing like you coming in here and slapping those people in the face.
Perhaps they're not the best writers. I think it unlikely that writing is what they do for a living. But you know what? If you'd taken the time to read the entire threads, you would have seen every possible way to **** up and how to deal with it. But no. Assholes like you think there should be a one touch root because you're too ****ing lazy to learn a little bit about your phone. Sorry, bub. It didn't happen with this phone. It took almost 18 months to discover and develop the exploits that allowed us without developer editions to root our phones.
I should apologize. I should be sorry that you're too ****ing stupid to read through hundreds of posts on how to unlock a bootloader and root your phone.
Have you sent any money to the guys that developed the exploit? How much are you paying for any of what's here on this forum? STFU.
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You know what? The people that wrote the guides did so out of the goodness of their hearts as have all of the people here that have helped others to root their phones. There's nothing like you coming in here and slapping those people in the face.
Perhaps they're not the best writers. I think it unlikely that writing is what they do for a living. But you know what? If you'd taken the time to read the entire threads, you would have seen every possible way to **** up and how to deal with it. But no. Assholes like you think there should be a one touch root because you're too ****ing lazy to learn a little bit about your phone. Sorry, bub. It didn't happen with this phone. It took almost 18 months to discover and develop the exploits that allowed us without developer editions to root our phones.
I should apologize. I should be sorry that you're too ****ing stupid to read through hundreds of posts on how to unlock a bootloader and root your phone.
Have you sent any money to the guys that developed the exploit? How much are you paying for any of what's here on this forum? STFU.
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- Has anybody bothered to state that 40% of the battery charge disappears every time you run Kingoroot? Nope. Nowhere in the guides.
- Has anybody mentioned that the CPD1 VZW bootloader firmware is also locked and will not boot a ROM flagged as custom? Nope! Nowhere. You heard it here first!
- Has anyone examined the content of the BPA1-CPD1 hybrid 5.1.1 ROM to determine whether it contains OEM VZW firmware or a custom firmware revision developed by someone on this forum? No. Nobody has done that.
You don't have to "write full-time" to have good written communication skills. I could write a very respectable COMPREHENSIVE guide on the process involved, but do you know what would happen to it? The admins would never sticky it and it would get buried under a thousand other threads. Somebody decided that there can be ONLY ONE ["Official"] guide, even though the current one is a stupid, incoherent mess that's maintained by an OP who refuses to amend or add anything to it.
And lazy? At least I perused the source code before I blindly copied a script claiming to unlock my bootloader. I doubt you have the slightest clue on either how to look at it or what malicious code looks like.
Lastly and most importantly, you're a fool for being content with giving your money to a phone manufacturer that rails you in the ass for wanting more control over it. After I brought my Note 4 back from the grave, I bought a Nexus. You think donating your change to the Devs is going to fix this problem long-term when you give Samsung $800 to continue doing this to you? I don't have enough crayons to further explain to you what an idiot you are.
Ok as this really is nothing more then a rant I will close this up with a few passing thoughts.
Things like this are not meant to be done by the average guy. This is a developers site. So yes you are expected to do lots of research before you do anything.
Next. No one in their right mind uses that root process. The battery drain is it connecting to the internet and downloading what ever it is they use to root the device after then get your imei and store it.
Also lets leave the name calling for the playground or the next name that will be called is banned.
Hi All
Its been several years since Ive played around with any of this stuff, but since getting my S9 im ready to jump back into it. Ive been all over the forums trying to get an idea of where to start updating my knowledge in this area but there is just SO MUCH material to go through.
Ive read through the TWRP thread, and others, a few times and it seems its a bit more complicated than i remember with the security of these new devices. If anyone could suggest reading materials on this forum so I can better understand the steps involved in getting custom recovery working, and flashing custom roms
Its not clear to me whether I need to, or if it is recommended to flash a custom kernel (which as i understand it is needed to root?), and whether the steps outlined in the TWRP thread (mainly flashing the no-verity-opt-encrypt-samsung-1.0.zip file) will get me set or if i need to do something with magisk to get TWRP installed permanently and the device booting
Im not necessarily interested in rooting, I just want to get another OS on my device
Any threads you guys could point me to would be greatly appreciated
I really hate asking this type of question as it makes me sound like a choosy beggar, but is there an all in one tool in the works for unlocking/rooting/flashing/etc? As I grow older, I desire rooting and tinkering, however I also value my free time a lot more lately (can't have both, right?).
Apologies if this is a silly question, however I thought I'd ask anyway! Thanks!
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I really hate asking this type of question as it makes me sound like a choosy beggar, but is there an all in one tool in the works for unlocking/rooting/flashing/etc? As I grow older, I desire rooting and tinkering, however I also value my free time a lot more lately (can't have both, right?).
Apologies if this is a silly question, however I thought I'd ask anyway! Thanks!
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As far as I know, only the original Pixel 1 has an all-in-one tool* ("click button, wait, have fun - even though the P1 tool only came years after release!"), it has always been the culmination of a couple ADB steps/commands in a certain order, plus some manual flashing/magisk file creation incl. copying a couple files from your phone to your PC or vice versa.
Especially since Google changed alot of stuff with Android 11 and Android 12, it's a bit more complicated to root since the days of the original Pixel.
That doesn't mean that there can be no all-in-one root tool here, but as of now we have none and I don't see how one could be created in the foreseeable future.
*https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ck-twrp-factory-image-stock-recovery.3730227/
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As far as I know, only the original Pixel 1 has an all-in-one tool* ("click button, wait, have fun - even though the P1 tool only came years after release!"), it has always been the culmination of a couple ADB steps/commands in a certain order, plus some manual flashing/magisk file creation incl. copying a couple files from your phone to your PC or vice versa.
Especially since Google changed alot of stuff with Android 11 and Android 12, it's a bit more complicated to root since the days of the original Pixel.
That doesn't mean that there can be no all-in-one root tool here, but as of now we have none and I don't see how one could be created in the foreseeable future.
*https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ck-twrp-factory-image-stock-recovery.3730227/
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For sure, that's actually the All in One tool that I remember using with my Oneplus 7 Pro. This is my first Pixel phone (does the Nexus 6P count?) so I wasn't sure if developers would be all over it, or if Google has made things more complicated over the past couple of years. Either way I appreciate the reply and will probably dive into unlocking/rooting over the holiday weekend.
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For sure, that's actually the All in One tool that I remember using with my Oneplus 7 Pro. This is my first Pixel phone (does the Nexus 6P count?) so I wasn't sure if developers would be all over it, or if Google has made things more complicated over the past couple of years. Either way I appreciate the reply and will probably dive into unlocking/rooting over the holiday weekend.
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If you want to read a bit about complication, take a search engine and find out what
Android 11 scoped storage
Android 12 Dm-verity (device-mapper-verity)*
Android 12 Vbmeta verification**
SafetyNet Android
Android Hardware Attestation
means.
*is a method by which an image on block devices (the underlying storage layer of the file system) can be checked to determine if it matches an expected configuration, using a cryptographic hash tree. If the hash doesn't match, dm-verity prevents the stored code from loading.
**is the other half of this - it provides a cryptographically signed reference hash which is used to verify the integrity of /boot, /system, and /vendor partitions. The vbmeta image is only used to verify /boot, while vbmeta-system is used to verify /system.
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Google has been actively working - for a couple of years now - at making the modding/rooting communities life harder. We have always found a workaround, some require work (spoofing device ID, forcing software attestation, et cetera) or don't work that well at all, but it's a constant struggle.
Every firmware update is a small struggle and you got to pray to the man above that your device will still boot up, even if you have those pesky magisk modules disabled.
Morgrain said:
Google has been actively working - for a couple of years now - at making the modding/rooting communities life harder. We have always found a workaround, some require work (spoofing device ID, forcing software attestation, et cetera) or don't work that well at all, but it's a constant struggle.
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I think Google's goal was to make our devices more secure, not making modding/rooting harder.
CacheOnlyPlease said:
I really hate asking this type of question as it makes me sound like a choosy beggar, but is there an all in one tool in the works for unlocking/rooting/flashing/etc? As I grow older, I desire rooting and tinkering, however I also value my free time a lot more lately (can't have both, right?).
Apologies if this is a silly question, however I thought I'd ask anyway! Thanks!
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Not sure if this fits the bill of what you're looking for
Android Flash Tool
Perhaps this
Android Dollhouse (Flashtool) | TESTERS REQUIRED
Android Dollhouse The Definitive Android Flashtool. This is the support thread for Pixel 6 Pro. If you have another device, please check the other threads: Pixel 2XL: Support Thread Pixel 6: Support Thread I'm releasing the first user-facing...
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Az Biker said:
Not sure if this fits the bill of what you're looking for
Android Flash Tool
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Sort of. Like I mentioned, I haven't dove into the details yet of rooting my Pixel 6 Pro yet, however can this tool you linked get me out of a potentially sticky situation if I ever need to load the stock firmware (ROM) onto it? That's really my biggest concern is messing something up. If I have a tool handy to get me back to stock, even if it wipes the whole phone, then I'm much more likely to dive in, you know.
For an all-in-one tool... what's wrong with fastboot?
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Sort of. Like I mentioned, I haven't dove into the details yet of rooting my Pixel 6 Pro yet, however can this tool you linked get me out of a potentially sticky situation if I ever need to load the stock firmware (ROM) onto it? That's really my biggest concern is messing something up. If I have a tool handy to get me back to stock, even if it wipes the whole phone, then I'm much more likely to dive in, you know.
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If you haven't already looked them over, check the 6 PRO link in my sig, Step by step directions, pretty much each and every detail to make it easy for people like me who aren't rooting gurus.
Fastboot is the tool to pull you back from the abyss should you screw the pooch. Plenty of places you can find commands to help you out in a pinch, usually bringing you back to a factory fresh image.
Fastboot, update, and root a few times and it'll become much less concerning and tedious.