Can't find any phone to replace - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hi pixel users,
I want to learn if you are having same thoughts like me. I want to replace my 2017 pixel 2xl but never convinced by any brand that is real update. Google camera( only photo not video) always makes me stick with my device. Pixel 3xl was never upgrade when it first released. Oneplus 7 is still behind when competing the camera. Pixel 4 will be bazel king still and it is not sold in my country Turkey. Galaxy phones are always washed out camera and bad battery with exynos. Huavei having problem with Google so hard to trust. So another year with pixel 2xl probably.

I've had similar conclusion. Pixel 3 - ugly, Pixel 4 - looks like it's gonna be ugly too. OnePlus phones are the closest competitors in my eyes with their clean software and continued long Android updates, but camera still isn't on Pixel level and water and ingress protection isn't IP certified. Samsung's software isn't for me and their update cycle is terrible.
So Pixel 2 for my wife and Pixel 2 XL for me are still one of best phones out there for us, while it's getting Android updates I won't be changing them soon.
These of course are subjective thoughts.
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I'm waiting for the OnePlus 7T, should be released around Thanksgiving

Same here. I thought I might have gotten the Pixel 4 but the 2 XL has just been too perfect for me to think about updating.

Pixel 4 XL would be the way to go

I need good camera, so only pixel, samsung or Huawei. I tired of big phones, so thinking about s10e. People talks what oneUI is good and clean like stock and I like what s10e has flat sreen.
I like, what 1.5 year old pixel is fast like new.

Hazzay88 said:
Pixel 4 XL would be the way to go
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I agree with that!

I wish everyone would stop making tall skinny phones already. I love my 2xl performance wise, but sorely miss my Nexus 6 screen. That was the PERFECT size phone. It's bezels are close in size to the 2xl. If only the guts were easily swapped between the two of them!

knightsh said:
I wish everyone would stop making tall skinny phones already. I love my 2xl performance wise, but sorely miss my Nexus 6 screen. That was the PERFECT size phone. It's bezels are close in size to the 2xl. If only the guts were easily swapped between the two of them!
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While I love my P2XL and 3aXL, I would get behind an updated Nexus 6 in a heartbeat! Next to the HTC M7, the Nexus 6 was my absolute favorite device. Would love to get that phone's body with upgraded internals (really wish it was possible to update your device to newer hardware without changing the outside).

paulyz said:
I need good camera, so only pixel, samsung or Huawei. I tired of big phones, so thinking about s10e. People talks what oneUI is good and clean like stock and I like what s10e has flat sreen.
I like, what 1.5 year old pixel is fast like new.
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I thought to buy one but battery and camera performance is worse then pixel trust me. Size is perfect but has some disadvantages. It ıs also important which region you are from. SD is a lot better than exynos.

Hazzay88 said:
Pixel 4 XL would be the way to go
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I really think that it will be future proof but bezels is making me think and the worst part is the region. It is not sold in my country Turkey. I have a bit hope for this year. They may start selling because 3a and 3axl are great alternatives for Turkish market. I would probably go for pixel 4 if I can.

kemalcenk said:
I thought to buy one but battery and camera performance is worse then pixel trust me. Size is perfect but has some disadvantages. It ıs also important which region you are from. SD is a lot better than exynos.
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Camera will be ok, I had samsung top line and I know Samsung's camera.
Yes battery worse, that's main disvadvantage for me.

AndrasLOHF said:
Same here. I thought I might have gotten the Pixel 4 but the 2 XL has just been too perfect for me to think about updating.
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I'm starting to see a lot of these opinions about the 2xl. Mine has been one of the best phones I've owned. Oneplus 7 pro or pixel 4 are the only phones I would consider.

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Honeymoon Over Already??

I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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What's that based on? Have you had a chance to handle the 5T? (Not trying to be funny, just curious)
I'm aware of the differences in specs. Looking at value, pocketing a couple hundred bucks while having a very similar experience is appealing.
Try it hands on style and report back. Good luck
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What's that based on? Have you had a chance to handle the 5T? (Not trying to be funny, just curious)
I'm aware of the differences in specs. Looking at value, pocketing a couple hundred bucks while having a very similar experience is appealing.
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It feels like I see something weekly about them stealing user data. No thanks. Also 1080 screen, no water resistance, some new BS camera that will under perform....nah. Happy with my Note 8 and 2 XL.
No, I haven't touched the 5T and have no desire to.
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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Do what you want, bro.
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dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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Not completely true. I just came from the 3T. It was great except the camera. It actually took over as my favorite phone (that I've owned) from the S3. I also have a OnePlus One and bought the 5 but didn't like it so I kept my 3T until I got the 2 XL.
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MrMeeseeks said:
Not completely true. I just came from the 3T. It was great except the camera. It actually took over as my favorite phone (that I've owned) from the S3. I also have a OnePlus One and bought the 5 but didn't like it so I kept my 3T until I got the 2 XL.
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See my previous comment to give you context to back up my opinion.
I agree, I have the note 8 and 2 xl currently. Thinking hard about returning 2 xl and buying the 5t. I got a locked bootloader also, this phone isnt as fun as a unlocked. Ill never buy from verizon again. I got lucky last year and was able to use depixel8 before the patch, not so lucky this time around.
the only advantage oneplus has over pixel is the price but if you can afford pixel, pixel is better choice.
Oneplus wont update the phone beyond 2 updates, that means you'll have to depend on custom roms after android P.
Also this my personal point of view that they are drifting away from the stock android slowly, their useless apps like clock, calculator, dialer doesnt make sense.
releasing a phone every 6 months is another thing i dont like.
pixel has faster updates, longer support, better camera.
I'm an ex oneplus 3 and oneplus 3t user btw.
but ultimately things do come to your personal preference and point of view.
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nothing beats the stock android experience...Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
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I'm confused. The phone is awesome, but because you apparently chose to buy the Verizon version and the bootloader is locked, you don't like it.
First of all, you do realize that 99.9% of the population has no F-ing clue what a bootloader is, nor will they ever in a million years care to find out.
But according to you, Google is somehow at fault for allowing a carrier to sell a phone with an insignificant modification none of its mainstream customers will care about. And somehow this is a "problem"?
If you are so outraged about the bootloader, why didn't you buy the device directly from Google?
Second of all, since when does the Pixel 2 XL run stock Android? Stock Android is the latest AOSP build. At this point Google has a thinly skinned Android variant that can only be described as "Google's Android".
And if you're so into "stock" Android, why does it matter if the bootloader is locked? So you can put a custom rom onto the device and thereby not use "stock" Android?
Apologies but your post seems to have no purpose than to bash the Pixel 2 XL and suggest that buying another device is a good idea. Why do we need to tell you what to do? If you don't like it, get rid of it. End of story.
I had the OnePlus 5, awesome phone considering the price.
But the camera sucks, no waterproofing, and slow updates.
Plus the updated launcher sucks.
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I'm confused. The phone is awesome, but because you apparently chose to buy the Verizon version and the bootloader is locked, you don't like it.
First of all, you do realize that 99.9% of the population has no F-ing clue what a bootloader is, nor will they ever in a million years care to find out.
But according to you, Google is somehow at fault for allowing a carrier to sell a phone with an insignificant modification none of its mainstream customers will care about. And somehow this is a "problem"?
If you are so outraged about the bootloader, why didn't you buy the device directly from Google?
Second of all, since when does the Pixel 2 XL run stock Android? Stock Android is the latest AOSP build. At this point Google has a thinly skinned Android variant that can only be described as "Google's Android".
And if you're so into "stock" Android, why does it matter if the bootloader is locked? So you can put a custom rom onto the device and thereby not use "stock" Android?
Apologies but your post seems to have no purpose than to bash the Pixel 2 XL and suggest that buying another device is a good idea. Why do we need to tell you what to do? If you don't like it, get rid of it. End of story.
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Well, thanks for your point of view. Certainly wasn't my intent to upset you or anyone else who enjoys the phone.
I never cited the bootloader lock as an issue for not liking the phone. I do LIKE the phone. Obviously I do not think it's a deal breaker because I DID knowing purchase a bootloader locked edition of the phone. My point is times are changing and I either need to change with them or find a better value. I said was disappointed in Google for allowing the change.
I'm stating from a value standpoint there may be other options that offer a similar experience. Of course value is perceived by everyone differently.
Thinking back to the Nexus 5, in my opinion one of the best phones released under Google's hand, was awesome because of the value. Yes, I'm aware that when the Nexus 6 came out we left value land for premium land.
What I meant by bringing up the 5T is - I can purchase very similar hardware for less and run the same applications at no additional costs. The trade off is a sacrifice in screen quality and camera quality??
Thank you on your clarification of what the true stock android experience is. To clarify, I prefer "Google's Android" to other manufacturer's implementation of Android. Is that better?
I got great feedback from others that I reminded me of the non-tangible benefits of owning the Pixel over a different device.
dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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more like, OnePlus is amazing for the price, but Pixel 2 XL is better in nearly every way (except charging speed)
Source: own/ed OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL
2x4 said:
more like, OnePlus is amazing for the price, but Pixel 2 XL is better in nearly every way (except charging speed)
Source: own/ed OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL
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I bought the OPO and OP2 from them. The OPO, great...the OP2....terrible. I have also been active on their forum for years and that has told me all I need to know about them.
They will not see anymore of my money.
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I bought the OPO and OP2 from them. The OPO, great...the OP2....terrible. I have also been active on their forum for years and that has told me all I need to know about them.
They will not see anymore of my money.
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i didn't get the OP2 since I read terrible reviews about it, but I did get the OP3 and it has been amazing to be honest in my experience (except for the GPS lock bug that was present a few months, which has since been resolved). I am both impressed by the fluidity, speed, and frequency of updates on their software and disappointed by their decision to only provide major feature updates on the OP3/T for such a short time (not to mention launch the OP5T without Oreo)
I got the Pixel XL 2 since I wanted a better camera and so my SO could use my OP3 with 2 SIM cards (for more data), but I could have easily kept it and kept using it past the SW timeline via custom ROMs - even the camera is pretty amazing once you sideload the GCAM mod that lets you use Google's algorithm (SIGNIFICANTLY better post-processing than the stock camera)
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i didn't get the OP2 since I read terrible reviews about it, but I did get the OP3 and it has been amazing to be honest in my experience (except for the GPS lock bug that was present a few months, which has since been resolved). I am both impressed by the fluidity, speed, and frequency of updates on their software and disappointed by their decision to only provide major feature updates on the OP3/T for such a short time (not to mention launch the OP5T without Oreo)
I got the Pixel XL 2 since I wanted a better camera and so my SO could use my OP3 with 2 SIM cards (for more data), but I could have easily kept it and kept using it past the SW timeline via custom ROMs - even the camera is pretty amazing once you sideload the GCAM mod that lets you use Google's algorithm (SIGNIFICANTLY better post-processing than the stock camera)
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Yeah see that's the thing for me....I don't want to have to d*ck with custom ROMs or sideloading anything. My communication is way too important to me to take chances modding my device.
Glad you like the 2 XL. I am happy with it as well. Currently flipping back and forth between the 2 XL and Note 8. Can't decide which one I like more...depends on the day. :laugh:
dhaugru said:
Yeah see that's the thing for me....I don't want to have to d*ck with custom ROMs or sideloading anything. My communication is way too important to me to take chances modding my device.
Glad you like the 2 XL. I am happy with it as well. Currently flipping back and forth between the 2 XL and Note 8. Can't decide which one I like more...depends on the day. :laugh:
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What makes you pick the N8 somedays besides the screen? Curious not bashing.
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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No need to look angry at the design team mate. Can't make a small phone with small bezels without severely reducing the battery size. Which in turn will make battery life suck.
Gilley said:
What makes you pick the N8 somedays besides the screen? Curious not bashing.
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I like the procision of the S-Pen. I am also in sales and it's handy to quickly jot a quick note when working with customers to gain contact info or to highlight important points within the conversation.
I also use it as my in-flight media library with the expanded storage. The headphone jack is nice too!

Pixel 2 XL or OnePlus 6

Hey guys, it's been a while since I've been on these forums. Currently on my Nexus 6P but looking to upgrade.
I've loved the use of stock & clean android. As well as regular updates and a decent camera. I'm interested in the pixel 2 XL but have seen a lot of bad press about issues.
What is the general consensus on the phone? Would the OnePlus give me a similar android experience? It's supposed to be getting a decent camera too and cost £499. Was interested in people's views!
Cheers!
The only real difference is if you want a really good rom community or if camera is more important.
It's simple If you want better camera with some rom support or root. Get the google 2xl..if you want rom support then go one plus 6
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hltbest said:
Hey guys, it's been a while since I've been on these forums. Currently on my Nexus 6P but looking to upgrade.
I've loved the use of stock & clean android. As well as regular updates and a decent camera. I'm interested in the pixel 2 XL but have seen a lot of bad press about issues.
What is the general consensus on the phone? Would the OnePlus give me a similar android experience? It's supposed to be getting a decent camera too and cost £499. Was interested in people's views!
Cheers!
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There's a thread on this somewhere on XDA if I'm not mistaken. The opinions I've seen are kinda like the ol Ford vs Chevy debate back in my day. The best summation I can give would be.....
If you want fast, regular security updates and arguably the best camera out there, then the P2XL is the call.
If you want more development, larger ram capacity, and an OK-good camera, then the OP6 is what your looking for.
Again, this is a very short synopsis
hltbest said:
Hey guys, it's been a while since I've been on these forums. Currently on my Nexus 6P but looking to upgrade.
I've loved the use of stock & clean android. As well as regular updates and a decent camera. I'm interested in the pixel 2 XL but have seen a lot of bad press about issues.
What is the general consensus on the phone? Would the OnePlus give me a similar android experience? It's supposed to be getting a decent camera too and cost £499. Was interested in people's views!
Cheers!
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If you can buy the Pixel 2 xl then just buy it
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2 years warranty, 3 big updates, so untill 2020 , 4 years security updates , fast updates , stock Android, the Best camera on the market. Stéréo speakers , good battery life, squeeze Google assistant, Google photos free to photos untill 2022.. no doubt Google pixel 2 xl
lima002 said:
2 years warranty, 3 big updates, so untill 2020 , 4 years security updates , fast updates , stock Android, the Best camera on the market. Stéréo speakers , good battery life, squeeze Google assistant, Google photos free to photos untill 2022.. no doubt Google pixel 2 xl
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Along with horrible QC, the avg replacement device being 4 (not for blue shift either) lol(I'm on replacement #8). It's no longer the best camera. Stereo speakers are pretty meh, stock has it's pros but a crap ton of cons. Op gets fast updates as well lol, squeeze google assistant isn't a deal breaker. Google photos is like 3.00 a month for 100gb, the "free" isn't that impressive. No doubt pixel 2 xl isn't the obvious choice anymore lol. Also OP is 300.00 less lol and better build quality.
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Along with horrible QC, the avg replacement device being 4 (not for blue shift either) lol(I'm on replacement #8). It's no longer the best camera. Stereo speakers are pretty meh, stock has it's pros but a crap ton of cons. Op gets fast updates as well lol, squeeze google assistant isn't a deal breaker. Google photos is like 3.00 a month for 100gb, the "free" isn't that impressive. No doubt pixel 2 xl isn't the obvious choice anymore lol. Also OP is 300.00 less lol and better build quality.
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Well I bought 1 and I'm happy, there's blue shift but hopefully not so much. To me it's the best on HDR and that's why I bought it too. Well the best stereo speakersare those from ipx and i8p , and to me those on pixel are ok . Fast updates it's on the same week to me. Squeeze isn't a deal breaker but a nice feature. No Google photos are free and the full quality. Don't get me wrong I got op5t too,
But to me the pixel it's much "smarter" then the others mobiles
12 mp photos are free from any phone anyway, never quite understood this "benefit" with the pixel phones.
mwatson said:
12 mp photos are free from any phone anyway, never quite understood this "benefit" with the pixel phones.
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Not free for full original quality
mwatson said:
12 mp photos are free from any phone anyway, never quite understood this "benefit" with the pixel phones.
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They get compressed but for pixel they get stored in original quality
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Interesting to see some of these replies! Pretty much the debate I'm having in my head haha. I love my Nexus as it's as great now as it was on day one... No bloatware and up until Oreo 8.1 fast updates.
I think for me the camera is hugely important. If one plus can release a camera that is better than the pixel 2 XL ... Then that may do it for me! Good to here they have fast(ish) updates too. Rumours are OnePlus 6 will have a triple digit dxomark I think!
Im the guy who keep buying a new phone in 2 or 3 months, I switched back and forth from any flagahips on the martket but there is always a few little things that keep bothering me to change a new phone until i got pixel 2 xl last week and its the perfect one.
Oneplus 5
Oneplus 5t
Iphone 8 plus
Note 8
iPhone X
Pixel 2
Pixel 2 XL now
All of the above pros for the Pixel XL 2... it's a gold mine of goodies!
both phones are great, but the pixel 2 XL is definitely a bit better in several ways
Loved my Nexus 6p and if it wasn't for the battery issues I'd probably still have it however I do really like the pixel. I don't really see the issues that have been reported. If you can afford both phones then the pixel is the one for me
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12 mp photos are free from any phone anyway, never quite understood this "benefit" with the pixel phones.
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Nope not the same pixel phones have unlimited storage for photo and video at its highest quality. Thats the difference
hltbest said:
Interesting to see some of these replies! Pretty much the debate I'm having in my head haha. I love my Nexus as it's as great now as it was on day one... No bloatware and up until Oreo 8.1 fast updates.
I think for me the camera is hugely important. If one plus can release a camera that is better than the pixel 2 XL ... Then that may do it for me! Good to here they have fast(ish) updates too. Rumours are OnePlus 6 will have a triple digit dxomark I think!
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Dxo mark rating doesn't really mean that much it is same as running a performance benchmarks like antutu etc
See, pixel has only one camera and still scored the highest but all these phones s9+ p20pro have 2 or 3 camera henceforth the triple digit figures
If pixel had secondary camera such as telephoto then it would also had a 100+ score
If you want to compare the dxo mark ratings then compare the main lens rating on their site
P20 pro vs pixel 2xl on youtube evry video in the end says they would go with pixel because it is consistent
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keaheng said:
Im the guy who keep buying a new phone in 2 or 3 months, I switched back and forth from any flagahips on the martket but there is always a few little things that keep bothering me to change a new phone until i got pixel 2 xl last week and its the perfect one.
Oneplus 5
Oneplus 5t
Iphone 8 plus
Note 8
iPhone X
Pixel 2
Pixel 2 XL now
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I got all that mobiles too, and now I'm stuck on my pixel 2 XL and ipx
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Prattham said:
Dxo mark rating doesn't really mean that much it is same as running a performance benchmarks like antutu etc
See, pixel has only one camera and still scored the highest but all these phones s9+ p20pro have 2 or 3 camera henceforth the triple digit figures
If pixel had secondary camera such as telephoto then it would also had a 100+ score
If you want to compare the dxo mark ratings then compare the main lens rating on their site
P20 pro vs pixel 2xl on youtube evry video in the end says they would go with pixel because it is consistent
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I think the same and all the videos that I saw the HDR it's always better on pixel 2,
Better portrait on the market
Better HDR on the market
2nd or 3rd on low light, even though I still think pixel got it better.
Better color accuracy
Etc etc
The only one thing that the pixel camera doesn't do it better, it's the zoom , well that's normal with only one camera
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I use to change roms every week but now I do prefer stability and security.
One plus got 8.1 and I'm already on 9.0 that's a huge difference, and Will be always like that.
If oneplus 6 support VZW...bye bye Pixel 2 XL. The oneplus is a quality, low profile/thin bezel phone with great dev support from their company and online on XDA. They won't say if they are going to support VZW yet, but heard they are looking for a US partner in the coming 6 months. The Pixel 2 XL is so bulky, thick top/bottom space, and the features of the OS are lagging behind a few things that the OnePlus Beta 5T phone currently has that the 6 will have baked in, like fling/nonav bar gestures like iPhone. They've had it for months in the beta, all the apps are scaled to use the screen space without the bar...not such thing in the standard Android/Pixel OS builds, and then, not done at all or very well. I know devs try their best, but it isn't proper.
Only thing about OnePlus is the camera, next one should be much better hopefully. But then again, unless it works on Verizon...doesn't really matter, and my choices are limited for modding/bootloader unlocking etc..to the Google phone really, or HTC.
Thanks very much for all the advise guys! Great to see arguments for both phones haha!
Currently can get the Pixel 2 XL for £600 from carphone warehouse. The OnePlus 6 is likely to be £500.
I think the make or break for me is going to be the camera. I'll wait and see what the camera is when the OnePlus 6 is officially announced on 16th may. If the camera is better that may sway it for me, if not I'll get the pixel 2 XL!

Dilemma| Pixel 2xl 128gb for 640$ vs OP6 for 560$

I have a 6p 32gb for now, thought about upgrading and I don't want to wait for the Pixel 3, so I have 2 options and I want your opinions.
In terms of storage, I don't really need 128gb, 64 is just enough, though the Pixel offer is only for 128
Pixel has better camera, faster updates, water resistant, and dual speakers. Oneplus is cheaper, has a bigger screen with notch ?, newer processor, and better battery life, also 3.5mm jack. So it depends on what you want out of your phone.
Pixel 2 XL. It's going to be updated for 3 years.
For me, the continued updates are very important.
If OP6 supported Verizon, I would move back to them in a second. The devs and support are as good as anybody, and they support bootloader unlocking. They've had some issues with customer support at times, like the cc fraud problem, otherwise, they are posed to continue good success. Camera isn't that big of a deal to me personally if the Pixel is slightly better. The case, near edge less top bottoms and sides make it more comfortable and better looking as well. Loved my 5t.
Would recommend pixel 2 XL.
I was in same dilemma too few weeks back. After looking at colleagues op6 and pixel 2 xl, went with pixel 2 xl. A very hard choice for me as choosing a single sim pixel 2 xl vs dual sim op6 (always favored dual sim before).
For me, I liked the pixel 2 xl display, sound and camera much better than op6. I also got info from colleagues that battery life us better in pixel 2 xl than op6.
I am happy with pixel 2 xl now.
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I have a 6p 32gb for now, thought about upgrading and I don't want to wait for the Pixel 3, so I have 2 options and I want your opinions.
In terms of storage, I don't really need 128gb, 64 is just enough, though the Pixel offer is only for 128
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I'm using both and think the Pixel 2 XL is a better daily user. Everyone's opinion is different - depends on hand feel, usability, screen, speed, etc.
The Pixel does it ALL....
Thank you guys
2xl it is
HeroPlane said:
Thank you guys
2xl it is
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You probably are going to get anwer as Pixel 2 XL as you are in Pixel device forum
ram4ufriends said:
You probably are going to get anwer as Pixel 2 XL as you are in Pixel device forum
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Partly agree with your thought process.
Another thought process is high cost mobile may always outperform low cost mobiles overall. So pixel 2 xl will come out better overall anyway than OP 6 right.
Check out the review of OP 6 whose UI fluidity is worse than pixel 2 xl surprisingly even for me (expected better UI fluidity in OP 6 due to less resolution screen and better processor than pixel 2 XL). Other areas of speed tests do resulted in good in op6 though.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-speed-gaming-review/
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Would recommend pixel 2 XL.
I was in same dilemma too few weeks back. After looking at colleagues op6 and pixel 2 xl, went with pixel 2 xl. A very hard choice for me as choosing a single sim pixel 2 xl vs dual sim op6 (always favored dual sim before).
For me, I liked the pixel 2 xl display, sound and camera much better than op6. I also got info from colleagues that battery life us better in pixel 2 xl than op6.
I am happy with pixel 2 xl now.
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You liked the display no offence the pixel has a inferior display.
Camera smashes the op6 out of the park
sutty86 said:
You liked the display no offence the pixel has a inferior display.
Camera smashes the op6 out of the park
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<sarcasm>Oh my, chime in on the horrid blue shift and terrible colors of the Pixel 2 XL.</sarcasm>
Better yet, don't. Both issues are totally overrated. If you really think the FHD display of the OP6 with notch is superior to the QHD screen of the P2XL without notch then whatever drugs you are on must be really good.
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You liked the display no offence the pixel has a inferior display.
Camera smashes the op6 out of the park
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Hmmm, not sure about inferior or superior spec. But I like the display of pixel 2 xl more than op6 one (not sure it is due to resolution may be, people say 1080p is sufficient but my eyes are demanding more) My s9+ display on other hand feels good than pixel 2 xl though.
I think that Pixel's display is superior to OP6's, Google did a lot lately to improve the colors and reduce the blue tint. I had S8+ and when comparing those two, the amount of blue tint was the same on both. It was visible on Pixel a couple of degrees earlier, but that was pretty much it.
Maybe I am just lucky with my Panda 128GB...
Get the pixel 2 xl coz when the 3 comes out you can trade in the 2 for up to 500$ you'd only be losing a 100$ or so. That's what did i picked a 128 panda used pixel 2 xl in mint conditions off swappa for 570$.
I own both. I'm selling the op6. I told myself I'd never try another option device but bought one anyway. Every opportunity device I've owned has had some odd hardware issue and none of them were the same. Also the UI had some odd behaviour even though it looks stock.
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I own both. I'm selling the op6. I told myself I'd never try another option device but bought one anyway. Every opportunity device I've owned has had some odd hardware issue and none of them were the same. Also the UI had some odd behaviour even though it looks stock.
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I am not sure why everobody (I mean all the reviewers) calls OnePlus software stock..I feel it's far from stock...their settings page design is still struck at Android 7 days...
ram4ufriends said:
I am not sure why everobody (I mean all the reviewers) calls OnePlus software stock..I feel it's far from stock...their settings page design is still struck at Android 7 days...
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Agreed completely.
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Get the pixel 2 xl coz when the 3 comes out you can trade in the 2 for up to 500$ you'd only be losing a 100$ or so. That's what did i picked a 128 panda used pixel 2 xl in mint conditions off swappa for 570$.
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I am not from the us as you can probably see

who thinks pixel 3 xl is a worthy upgrade from p2 xl

Hi chaps, anyone who upgraded from 2xl to 3xl ..is it worth it? For the screen alone and better haptic feedback? Do u feel like camera is far better factor too?
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Hi chaps, anyone who upgraded from 2xl to 3xl ..is it worth it? For the screen alone and better haptic feedback? Do u feel like camera is far better factor too?
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You may get better responses posting your question in the P3XL Q & A section. :good:
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You may get better responses posting your question in the P3XL Q & A section. :good:
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U probably right xd
Not that much of a upgrade for me. Maybe OnePlus 6T or Note 9. But Pixel 2XL is my DD!
The screen is nicer, the camera is a little bit better and more responsive, the phone is a little bit lighter and feels better in the hand not as Big And Chunky but I don't know if it is a reasonable $900 upgrade. I guess like going from an S8 to an S9. The phone is definitely cool though but I did return mine and I'm using my pixel 2 XL because it is not a big difference. I use that money to buy a 4K OLED TV 65 in
The Pixel 3 is more like a Pixel 2.1 imho
Just coming back from picking up a used 128gb pixel 2 xl and will be boxing up the Pixel 3 xl to return tomorrow. After a lot of faffing around I ultimately decided the "upgrade" wasn't really worth it. I had the 2XL, went to Huawei mate 20 pro, returned due to screen issues, then tried the Pixel 3 xl. Decision to return to the 2XL swayed of course by the distortion of the lower speaker of the 3XL....
Ultimately I'm gonna be happy to wait and see what Pixel 4 XL looks like
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Just coming back from picking up a used 128gb pixel 2 xl and will be boxing up the Pixel 3 xl to return tomorrow. After a lot of faffing around I ultimately decided the "upgrade" wasn't really worth it. I had the 2XL, went to Huawei mate 20 pro, returned due to screen issues, then tried the Pixel 3 xl. Decision to return to the 2XL swayed of course by the distortion of the lower speaker of the 3XL....
Ultimately I'm gonna be happy to wait and see what Pixel 4 XL looks like
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You chose wisely young Obiwan! Thanks for the insight for the other devices as well. I've thought about trying out the P3XL and OP6t, however, after reading many reviews on both, I just don't see the need. My P2XL is just fine as can be. We'll see what next year brings I reckon
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You chose wisely young Obiwan! Thanks for the insight for the other devices as well. I've thought about trying out the P3XL and OP6t, however, after reading many reviews on both, I just don't see the need. My P2XL is just fine as can be. We'll see what next year brings I reckon
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Hey hey! Thanks matey, good to be back home
Upgrade? Nah. The days of 'upgrading' (more like replacing) my phone every year is over. Why would I need another phone that is just as capable as the phone I already have? People use PCs for 5+ years without a single upgrade because it's not really needed (This coming from a Gamer)... It's time we started treating phones the same. There's nothing newer phones can do that a phone from 2-3 years ago can't. Save your money and spend it on something that is actually worth it... And honestly, no one cares what phone you have. Don't treat it as some kind of status symbol... You'd be better off buying some clothes or shoes if that's your goal. And yes, I understand that not everyone views their phones as such, but many do.
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You chose wisely young Obiwan! Thanks for the insight for the other devices as well. I've thought about trying out the P3XL and OP6t, however, after reading many reviews on both, I just don't see the need. My P2XL is just fine as can be. We'll see what next year brings I reckon
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Well me and Craig both tried mate 20 pro?.. and same both went back, but i've pre ordered op6t to give it honest chance... Will post back here in few days otherwise px2 xl stayin in my hands for longer
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Upgrade? Nah. The days of 'upgrading' (more like replacing) my phone every year is over. Why would I need another phone that is just as capable as the phone I already have? People use PCs for 5+ years without a single upgrade because it's not really needed (This coming from a Gamer)... It's time we started treating phones the same. There's nothing newer phones can do that a phone from 2-3 years ago can't. Save your money and spend it on something that is actually worth it... And honestly, no one cares what phone you have. Don't treat it as some kind of status symbol... You'd be better off buying some clothes or shoes if that's your goal. And yes, I understand that not everyone views their phones as such, but many do.
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Ur totally right... But its the urge of gettin something new xd
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Well me and Craig both tried mate 20 pro?.. and same both went back, but i've pre ordered op6t to give it honest chance... Will post back here in few days otherwise px2 xl stayin in my hands for longer
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Got my Pixel 2 XL almost all setup and feels sooooo nice to have it back I have Pixel Dust rom installed, with Sultan kernel and the performance script - running like a dream! After seeing the grass isn't greener on the other side, I'm happy to be here for another year
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Just coming back from picking up a used 128gb pixel 2 xl and will be boxing up the Pixel 3 xl to return tomorrow. After a lot of faffing around I ultimately decided the "upgrade" wasn't really worth it. I had the 2XL, went to Huawei mate 20 pro, returned due to screen issues, then tried the Pixel 3 xl. Decision to return to the 2XL swayed of course by the distortion of the lower speaker of the 3XL....
Ultimately I'm gonna be happy to wait and see what Pixel 4 XL looks like
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I went from pixel 2 XL, to note 9, to op6, back to note 9, to mate 20 pro and now I’m back with pixel 2 XL.
It was a very exhausting exercise! I’m now content with the pixel 2 XL, offers great value for money used compared to the competitors and is a no brainer.
I was tempted to try the op6t but remember from the op6 that the speaker was very tinny. Once you go dual speakers it’s hard to go back to single.
So for everyone thinking of moving, don’t do it, wait till pixel 4 XL and see what that brings.
I'm actually going from pixel 3 to pixel 2 xl
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I haven't purchased the 3 XL but I already know it won't be a good upgrade for me.
For one, the price for the 128GB 3XL is roughly $1400 CAD. :silly:
Two, that notch.
Three, the upgrades seem minor.
And finally, I had to RMA my 2 XL for screen burn-in and I got lucky with a brand new 2 XL! Fresh battery, got to experience the whole unboxing for the first time since my original 2 XL was purchased second hand.
Looks like I'll definitely be staying with this until the Pixel 4 XL, hopefully the notch size is significantly reduced, or better yet, completely gone by then!
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I went from pixel 2 XL, to note 9, to op6, back to note 9, to mate 20 pro and now I’m back with pixel 2 XL.
It was a very exhausting exercise! I’m now content with the pixel 2 XL, offers great value for money used compared to the competitors and is a no brainer.
I was tempted to try the op6t but remember from the op6 that the speaker was very tinny. Once you go dual speakers it’s hard to go back to single.
So for everyone thinking of moving, don’t do it, wait till pixel 4 XL and see what that brings.
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How did u find the cam on op6? Comparable or ****? I've ordered op6t just for fun of tryin it out
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How did u find the cam on op6? Comparable or ****? I've ordered op6t just for fun of tryin it out
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It’s was ok, not better than pixel 2 XL in my opinion
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It’s was ok, not better than pixel 2 XL in my opinion
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Definitely not expecting it to be better in this case.. but would u say bearable? Could the op6 satisfy ur needs in camera department as a pixie user? Mine aint coming till wed i think,
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Definitely not expecting it to be better in this case.. but would u say bearable? Could the op6 satisfy ur needs in camera department as a pixie user? Mine aint coming till wed i think,
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I could not move to op6 due to the camera.
But it may be ok for you, for me decent camera is a must (family)

OnePlus 7 pro

Anyone consider switching to the op7 pro?
Considering it. But really don't like curves on screens. Also mixed reviews on battery and camera
Lol, no.
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Anyone consider switching to the op7 pro?
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Chinese phone? No thanks. I'm scared of possible security flaws. Specs might sound nice on paper but not willing to take a chance.
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Chinese phone? No thanks. I'm scared of possible security flaws. Specs might sound nice on paper but not willing to take a chance.
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What do you mean by security flaws?
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What do you mean by security flaws?
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There is a possibility that most Chinese phones have backdoors where the Chinese can hack then and get your info.... At least that is what I understand from what our government is telling us about chinesse produced Telecom equipment (not that I agree with it all...but just the fact that it could be a possibility is enough for me to want to stay away).
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There is a possibility that most Chinese phones have backdoors where the Chinese can hack then and get your info.... At least that is what I understand from what our government is telling us about chinesse produced Telecom equipment (not that I agree with it all...but just the fact that it could be a possibility is enough for me to want to stay away).
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I would take that with a grain of salt. Google is notorious for collecting data without permission, right up there with facebook.
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I would take that with a grain of salt. Google is notorious for collecting data without permission, right up there with facebook.
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True, but I don't use Facebook at all. Furthermore, If I have to take a dose of poison, I'd rather take it from an American company (Google) than from a foreign Communist adversary whom I do not trust.
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Absolutely not. I've given up on OnePlus since the 5.
Not even thinking about it, I just left the oneplus 6t for my pixel 3 XL. I won't be leaving Google again
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Considering it. But really don't like curves on screens. Also mixed reviews on battery and camera
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That's what made me return my s10, curved edges..really sucked they did that...I have a pixel 3xl that I don't use that I'm gna trade in for 390$ with them, then I'll just pay the difference.. If I don't like it I can just return it and get whatever little I paid..
I would if wifi calling would work, like on mine Pixel 3 xl with ATT service, but I need the wifi calling. so its no go for me for now.
I would if there was wireless charging
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Not even thinking about it, I just left the oneplus 6t for my pixel 3 XL. I won't be leaving Google again
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Exactly how I feel man. Pixel phones only for me.
What did people who switched from OnePlus to Pixels dislike about the OnePlus phones (aside from potential security holes for the Chinese government - I couldn't care less if they were spying on me).
I was considering trading my 3XL for the OP7Pro as that 90hz display looked amazing when playing with it in the store.
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What did people who switched from OnePlus to Pixels dislike about the OnePlus phones (aside from potential security holes for the Chinese government - I couldn't care less if they were spying on me).
I was considering trading my 3XL for the OP7Pro as that 90hz display looked amazing when playing with it in the store.
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I don't worry about the whole Chinese government conspiracy theories. lol. I personally changed back because I love the pure android google experience, I don't like any slight change or deviation no matter how small. Oneplus isn't far from it but once you've used pure android (for me) nothing really ever compares. I even rooted and installed the pixel experience rom and it got me close but it wasn't the same coming from a pixel 2XL. Since I've switched I have no itch or thought to unlock my bootloader or want to flash anything. Don't get me wrong it is a beautiful phone but its not for me.
Lol, this has to be a joke right? Pixel 3 XL may lack more than 4GB ram, but it is far more superior device than oneplus will ever be.
Software experience and Camera is just galaxies away from oneplus. I personally would never ever consider oneplus over pixel devices, or any other android flagships. Oneplus is just getting too big headed.
They are charging $1000+ CAD. Way too overpriced.
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Lol, this has to be a joke right? Pixel 3 XL may lack more than 4GB ram, but it is far more superior device than oneplus will ever be.
Software experience and Camera is just galaxies away from oneplus. I personally would never ever consider oneplus over pixel devices, or any other android flagships. Oneplus is just getting too big headed.
They are charging $1000+ CAD. Way too overpriced.
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There’s zero objectivity in your statements. A pixel 3 XL 128gb in Canada costs 1260 dollars so I’m not sure how the price is a factor here for what you get.
Plus I wouldn’t go as far as saying the pixel 3 is galaxies ahead in software and camera. The software is almost identical with tweaks baked in by OnePlus. The pixel takes better pics but that doesn’t mean OnePlus is horrible. You cant just pick and choose things to suit your bias. What about the screen , 855, ram, cooling, 3 focal camera lengths and larger battery lol
I was so close to selling my Pixel 3 XL, it's in amazing condition, not one scratch, and still has 8 month warranty...
BUT
I can't stand curved edges. The way I hold a phone, it would drive me crazy. Why in the world would they curve the edges? Crazy.
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There’s zero objectivity in your statements. A pixel 3 XL 128gb in Canada costs 1260 dollars so I’m not sure how the price is a factor here for what you get.
Plus I wouldn’t go as far as saying the pixel 3 is galaxies ahead in software and camera. The software is almost identical with tweaks baked in by OnePlus. The pixel takes better pics but that doesn’t mean OnePlus is horrible. You cant just pick and choose things to suit your bias. What about the screen , 855, ram, cooling, 3 focal camera lengths and larger battery lol
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To be fair the OnePlus 7 pro is the newest generation and it still can't match the pixel for camera. But no point comparing until the pixel 4 .

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