all my usb-c pd chargers report slower charge speeds than the stock 25w brick. - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion

Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.

cdig said:
Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.
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Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load

M2Iceman said:
Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load
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I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.

cdig said:
I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.
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Yes you are correct. A special USB-C cable with an embedded chipset (E) is required along with special PPS. At this early stage I'm not certain many (if any) third party vendors meet these requirements. The only safe bet is the Samsung- branded one.

CONFIRMED !
i have a aftermarket 45w home charger and aftermarket 45w power bank.
both WONT charge at 45W, it charging like 15W.
when i plug in the stock 25w charger, it charging faster.

I have an Anker duel charger that has 45W USB C and a USB A. The USB C is rated at 45W and the USB A is rated at 15W. The 25W charges faster than the 45W. (at least what I am seeing)
Good info about the special cable. If we need a special cable... Where do we find it?
I do have to say, it charges fast with the 25W one.
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Ill check mines when the phone comes later today.
But i do remember reading that it used a different voltage/amp set.
Which if the charger doesnt support it. Then it would default to the lower one.
I.e.
If your charger is 5v 9v 12v 15v
But the phone needw 10v
It would default to the 9v.
Cant remember where i read this. But was a prerelease testing

The safe way to go is to use the samsung official chargers, that are precisely tuned for this, I would not risk a brand new somewhat expensive device

What is this telling me? phone says fast charging.
Using an Amazon Basics 60watt PD charger.

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yeah the phone claims it is rated for 10V at 4.5A and most 45W chargers use 15V at 3A, so likely to be nothing on the market fully capable of charging at super speed at the moment.
as for the USB cable it is a subset of USB 3.1 Gen 2, basically you need a cable with a chip in it, that chip allows you to break the 3A limit on standard cables. I've ordered this as I wanted a longer cable for my standard charger and should work with the 45W if I get it down the road. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073RY5JZ3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Now try this with the 25w charger in the box and you should notice shorter charge time remaining in the notification.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZGZUYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S2PCVGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the cables i listed are what I use now. I have a 1TB 12.9 ipad pro and picked up these cables to use with its fast pd charging.
this charger:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TC53ZYD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is not PPS but it does have 9 Volt at 3amps. i tested it with one of my note 10s and the ipad from 10%. im using a 60W anker brick for the ipad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQJWDRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the newer ravpower brick charged up much faster. again not pps (pdo) but it is fast in my less than scientific testing.

I'm just gonna use my $200 Samsung pre order credit to buy several oem or 45 watt chargers.
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Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !

Brotuck said:
Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !
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How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.

bp328i said:
How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.
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I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express

Brotuck said:
I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express
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You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.

bp328i said:
You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.
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No it really is the correct one..

Brotuck said:
No it really is the correct one..
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Different region that might be why.

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Car/Wall usb charging question

Hi guys,
I have a question regarding charging. Just bought the 5X recently and man, I had no idea of how many options were out there to charge your phone. Basically I have the OEM wall charger that came in the package. Now Im shopping for a regular USB to type C cable. I had a car charger in my car that I used to charge my Nexus 4 in but correct me if im wrong, it wont charge as quick since it probably doesn't support 2.1A, right? I saw this one on ebay and was even more confused.....
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5-1A-5V-3-Po...514908?hash=item2eeac8aa1c:g:CnwAAOSwGotWnyhR
So if I charge in the 1.0A or 2.0A, it wont charge as quick and be like a regular charger? and if I use the 2.1A, it will do the fast charging???? So confused here.........
You will only get fast charging from a charger that supports it.
Your computer and current car charger will charge "slowly". Make sure you buy a usb c cable that meets usb c specs.
Darke5tShad0w said:
You will only get fast charging from a charger that supports it.
Your computer and current car charger will charge "slowly". Make sure you buy a usb c cable that meets usb c specs.
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My OEM wall charger that came with the package does fast charging. Theyre rated at 3.0A
Ive already ordered the USB C cable, and its 2.0A, what are max speeds the 5x needs for fast charging?
Heres the cable I ordered
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/161918773991...49&var=460879113479&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
So Im assuming for the car charger that I posted above, I can use the 3.0 slot for my phone then to fast charge and the others do charge normally, however long that takes.
phone_noobie said:
My OEM wall charger that came with the package does fast charging. Theyre rated at 3.0A
Ive already ordered the USB C cable, and its 2.0A, what are max speeds the 5x needs for fast charging?
Heres the cable I ordered
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/161918773991...49&var=460879113479&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
So Im assuming for the car charger that I posted above, I can use the 3.0 slot for my phone then to fast charge and the others do charge normally, however long that takes.
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There is no usb 3.0 slot on the charger.
While it can output 5A it may not comply with the fast charging the 5x uses.
You will need to try it and see.
Heres a little bit of info
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
I myself will be interested if it works.
Darke5tShad0w said:
There is no usb 3.0 slot on the charger.
While it can output 5A it may not comply with the fast charging the 5x uses.
You will need to try it and see.
Heres a little bit of info
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
I myself will be interested if it works.
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hmm interesting, im starting to get what is needed and how this whole fast charging happens. So I looked on ebay and came across this
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Tronsmart-5V...300586?hash=item2a61f87a2a:g:P5IAAOSwezVWysaM
I assume this would work with whats mentioned in the article you posted. But the cable I ordered says 2.0 so Im not sure if that will not let it fast charge in the car?
Is there anyways of seeing when the phone is being fast charged, how much voltage or amps are going through, etc..? Like is there any app I can try? I did come across one called Ampere but I have no idea how to read that.
phone_noobie said:
hmm interesting, im starting to get what is needed and how this whole fast charging happens. So I looked on ebay and came across this
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Tronsmart-5V...300586?hash=item2a61f87a2a:g:P5IAAOSwezVWysaM
I assume this would work with whats mentioned in the article you posted. But the cable I ordered says 2.0 so Im not sure if that will not let it fast charge in the car?
Is there anyways of seeing when the phone is being fast charged, how much voltage or amps are going through, etc..? Like is there any app I can try? I did come across one called Ampere but I have no idea how to read that.
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Yea, you can use "Ampere" to measure the rate of charge. Coincidentally, Android Central just wrote about this app this weekend:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ask-ac-can-i-use-qualcomm-quick-charger-my-usb-c-nexus-phone
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My biggest concern... USB-C

I've got a lot of devices that use micro usb, and several quick charge adapters and hubs.
From my understanding the OP3 will only quick charge when using the specific charger and cable that comes with it.
Now I'm wondering if I'll no longer be able to charge while driving and using GPS... only true quick charge seems to catch up to that kind of drain.
Anyone have an idea how this might work?
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I too heard that only its own charger will charge it, but with root and custom kernels I can only imagine it'll get open to any usb-c cable
It would still charge with any cable but not at "Dash" rate!
OnePlus AMA on Reddit they say there are Power Management chips built into the Chargers so doubtful of it being opened up to any USB-C cable at Dash Charge rates.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4o308u/oneplus_ama_oneplus_3dition/
tal123 said:
I too heard that only its own charger will charge it, but with root and custom kernels I can only imagine it'll get open to any usb-c cable
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Nope not true at all. Any charger with a USB-C cable will charge this phone. Confirmed by Andrew on Android central
I submitted a question on what kind of usb type C connector they used. I'm wondering if they circumvented the "official" type C connection in order to implement their dash charging tech.
Get the £25 Car Charger that will stop problems with drain.
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Okay, reading through the thread, I feel like I can give you some definitive answers, and maybe solutions as well.
1) The Dash charging management IS offloaded to the charger. This means that only a charger with the built in functionality will trigger Dash charging safely. However, they WILL be selling accessories for cars, walls, etc. Might be available now. Keep checking, and if you're really curious you can call them and find out if they have any plans for the above.
2) ANY USB-C cable will charge the device, but not at QuickCharge/Dash speeds. This isn't a matter of triggering it in the device via software; the device is missing the hardware to make this work without the proper chargers. So it WILL charge, but at normal speeds.
(That being said, I ADVISE AGAINST using any charger that's not branded for the device. These things can and have caught fire and gone boom, and there's a reason they test the **** out of them before releasing them into the wild. The kid in China making $2/hr does not get paid enough to care if you die, so that's your responsibility.)
3) The inclusion of quickcharging means you can get to a destination with a plug and be reasonably charged within an hour. Unless you're a trucker, you'll probably just need to carry a charger around with you if it becomes THAT much of an issue, or keep one at your destination (I do this with my HTC 10, since i only have one plug. Works fine, lasts overnight and the 1 hr train ride to work.)
Hope this helps.
I have a nexus 5x that has usb-c with no issues. I use the stock power brick to charge and bought a respectable anker usb to usb-c cable for my pc. Can use that to adapt to my car charger to. You shouldnt have any issues. When my op3 gets here ill still use the same anker cable.
I've been using the Anker 4.8A / 24W car charger for at least a year and have (quick charged) my Note 4, LG G4, Moto G, and other devices without any problems. But I've never owned a USB-c device, so I'm weary about using it.
I honestly don't want to spend another $100 on an extra adapter, cable, and car charger just to make it a little more convenient!
Well, while it is type C, and can charge at 2.1amps, it is also wise to understand the factory charger and cable are capable of so much more. It is essentially OPPO's VOOC, which takes the heat out of the device into the charger and pushes about 20 watts, even while the phone is active.
The below video (i came across) has a great comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAS76EZ87dc
I don't wanna start new theme. So quick question. Does this usb-c support any hub with hdmi, full usb 3.0 (or2.0)and usb-c charging?
Keep in mind USB-C is the new standard, everything next year will be USB-C. So whats the difference between spending $100 on new chargers now or $100 next year when it is the only choice you have?
Also a quick google-foo shows there are several USB-C to HDMI/USB/USB-C adapters
jerflash said:
Nope not true at all. Any charger with a USB-C cable will charge this phone. Confirmed by Andrew on Android central
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Thanks for that info. I have to look that article up. I just wonder will is have USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 to Rapid Charge. I now know that not every smartphone that has a USB-C port rapid charges. Neither my Nextbit Robin nor HTC 10 do, and I later found out they weren't USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 compliant.
Not sure why you refer to USB-C to HDMI or DP but OP3 does not have video out support.
Think I'll just take the hit on my wallet and buy a spare Oneplus dash charger. I'm slightly annoyed they went for a protected system, when Apple did it we were unhappy, so far I've not seen the community complain about this new Oneplus 'feature'.
anessie said:
Not sure why you refer to USB-C to HDMI or DP but OP3 does not have video out support.
Think I'll just take the hit on my wallet and buy a spare Oneplus dash charger. I'm slightly annoyed they went for a protected system, when Apple did it we were unhappy, so far I've not seen the community complain about this new Oneplus 'feature'.
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I was going to complain, but then I did the research on DASH/VOOC and realized it is best in class, better than anything on the market to date. Quickly Charge with little heat... I'll pay 30 for a 2nd charger. And if I am in a bind, I'll just use normal USB C and suffer as I do now with my 1+1.
My only grr moment is seeing a car charger is $30.
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Thanks for that info. I have to look that article up. I just wonder will is have USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 to Rapid Charge. I now know that not every smartphone that has a USB-C port rapid charges. Neither my Nextbit Robin nor HTC 10 do, and I later found out they weren't USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 compliant.
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sorry did not see this. the oneplus 3 charges at a much slower speed using the stock nexus 6p charger. i checked
I use the dash charger at home and a standard 2.1A Capdase Power adapter in the car and a 2.1A Capdase Wall Adapter at work. Obviously only the Oneplus Dash Charger Charges at lightning speeds. But to be honest.the other chargers also do faster than normal charging. Im comparing from my oneplus 2 that one used to take forever to charge. I get a full charge with the dash charger in say abt 45 to 50 mins. And with the normal charger in about 1hr 30 mins. Which is still quite fast IMO. Oneplus 2 used to charge completely in about 3 hours. Im using the oneplus 3 cable with the Dash charger. The Oneplus 2 Cable in my car and an UltraProlink USB to Type C cable at work.
Tldr. Dash charger works super fast. Other normal chargers work just fine.
jerflash said:
sorry did not see this. the oneplus 3 charges at a much slower speed using the stock nexus 6p charger. i checked
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Thanks for checking. Excuse my lateness. I had a feeling that would be the case because it charges severly slower with my USB-C Rapid Wall Chargers.
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Angadadlakha said:
I use the dash charger at home and a standard 2.1A Capdase Power adapter in the car and a 2.1A Capdase Wall Adapter at work. Obviously only the Oneplus Dash Charger Charges at lightning speeds. But to be honest.the other chargers also do faster than normal charging. Im comparing from my oneplus 2 that one used to take forever to charge. I get a full charge with the dash charger in say abt 45 to 50 mins. And with the normal charger in about 1hr 30 mins. Which is still quite fast IMO. Oneplus 2 used to charge completely in about 3 hours. Im using the oneplus 3 cable with the Dash charger. The Oneplus 2 Cable in my car and an UltraProlink USB to Type C cable at work.
Tldr. Dash charger works super fast. Other normal chargers work just fine.
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That's great, It takes me about 70-72 minutes for a full charge from 0-100%. On top of the speed, I really appreciate that it doesn't overheat. I feel more confident with any smartphone that doesn't overheat while charging.

25w car charger

Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Try any type from Anker. As long as it has qualcomm fast charging, it is fast enough. Only a couple minutes behind stock samsung charger.
I have advice for you.
dboyrusky01 said:
Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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I think you should go to the stores and look for them, they have lots and their staff will advise you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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I actually got it too from ebay and can confirm it works just like the original charger, I think it might be actually charging up to 45w.
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
jgoedhard said:
It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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The charger said 26.2V, 9.32V and, 2.75A and its able to support 15V at 3A and 20V at 2.25
Supplying 24V to the Baseus car charger, it only supplied 9.32V X 2.75A = 25.63‬Watts which is about the same just using 12V
My current cable only supports PD 2.0 60W, 3 Amps
The 100W cable says it can do PD 2.0 with Gen2 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_52
Not all cables are the same. But i'm calling this as a good 25Watt charger with cable combo just untill it burns out
Its pretty crazy that Samsung chose the latest PD 3.0 variant with PPS, requiring the odd 10V at 4.5A. Clever heat management, but until now I came up empty finding the exact supporting charger other than the Samsung original who also seems to have its challenges. This article is pretty clear https://www.gsmarena.com/dont_just_..._for_the_samsung_galaxy_note10-news-38837.php
Not that I really would want such a fast charger to become my daily driver, fearing added wear on the battery, but for the rare occasion where I really need juice and do not have a powerbank handy, following if the community finds any solution.

25w third party charger

Hi,
what is the cheapest and best 25w third party charger for the SE 5G?
Any recommendations? Some links to amazon?
Kind regards
Oliver Benduhn
I got the Samsung 25W charger on Amazon for around $12. It came without Samsung packaging so I was sort of skeptical not to mention the price so my expectations were somewhat guarded. Came in generic packaging. Hooked it up and it works just like a legit Sammy charger. Sometimes you get lucky i guess.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VKXSD91
a possible alternative
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0858Z18N1/ref=pe_3310721_185740151_TE_item_image
65W, there are 2 USB-c plugs and a USB-a plug, 30 euros. There is a USA version 2
I just got a ugreen 30w charger, works nice.
I have been using this one- works great. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081PRLC97/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought AUKEY 30W charger and AUKEY TYPE C to C cable but i didn't notice any difference in charging speed between my stock 15W and Aukey 30W.. How long does FE take from o to 100 with a 25W charger?
Megamind08 said:
I bought AUKEY 30W charger and AUKEY TYPE C to C cable but i didn't notice any difference in charging speed between my stock 15W and Aukey 30W.. How long does FE take from o to 100 with a 25W charger?
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When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable.
Someguy14201 said:
When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable. I would tell you to go to your city's tech centre but we all know what happened a few days ago (spoiler: burnt)
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I just checked and it says "Fast Charging". Does the stock Samsung cable support 25W?
Someguy14201 said:
When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable. I would tell you to go to your city's tech centre but we all know what happened a few days ago (spoiler: burnt)
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No. 30w is not 25w. It must support the appropriate specs of the 25w pd that Samsung uses. It's the same reason you can't just plug it into a 85w macbook pro charger and expect super fast charging just because 85w is a bigger number than 25w.
longebane said:
No. 30w is not 25w. It must support the appropriate specs of the 25w pd that Samsung uses. It's the same reason you can't just plug it into a 85w macbook pro charger and expect super fast charging just because 85w is a bigger number than 25w.
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You can use a 30W charger on a device that supports a maximum of 25W, you can't do vice versa.
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Megamind08 said:
I just checked and it says "Fast Charging". Does the stock Samsung cable support 25W?
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The stock cable that comes with the phone supports 15W. Use an aftermarket cable that supports 25W or above.
Someguy14201 said:
When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable.
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Someguy14201 said:
You can use a 30W charger on a device that supports a maximum of 25W, you can't do vice versa.
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The stock cable that comes with the phone supports 15W. Use an aftermarket cable that supports 25W or above.
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I'm not saying you can't charge it with a 30W. Just that 30w doesn't necessarily mean super fast charge is supported. Also "vice versa"... you sure can charge a 30w device with a 25w charger, since almost all modern devices have variable rate logic that allow a slower charge after they negotiate on a rate.
Someguy14201 said:
I just got a ugreen 30w charger, works nice.
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Can you please post a link or picture including the charger and cable?
Megamind08 said:
Can you please post a link or picture including the charger and cable?
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https://www.ugreen.com/products/65w-gan-usb-c-fast-charger
alternative link
I bought this on Amazon, it support QuickCharge 3.0 and it has two additionnal charging port (one with QuickCharge and two standards).
I've ordered the Xiaomi 55W wireless charger.
when I receive it I will give a review
xscreations said:
I've ordered the Xiaomi 55W wireless charger.
when I receive it I will give a review
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It doesn't work. I had it
sowed said:
It doesn't work. I had it
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What do you mean? It does not working at all?
It is not charging in 15W?
xscreations said:
What do you mean? It does not working at all?
It is not charging in 15W?
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It doesn't charge in 15w. It do very slow
I haven't attracted enough hate this week so allow me to throw in this thought to you all.
the higher the amperage a lithium battery is charged with, the faster that cell will "age"!
consider the inconvenience Samsung has bestowed upon you as a blessing. if you are careful and never run your battery flat, never leave it at fully charged for long periods or sitting on a charger overnight at full, you can lose fewer of the cycles that are your batteries lifespan. charging with less current helps with this too. heat is your batteries enemy and fast charging creates more of it.
you might say "why would phone manufacturers produce chargers that would damage batteries over time ?" it doesn't hurt them if you buy a new phone sooner because the battery is weak. they'd prefer that than you getting 4 years life from a phone.
if you're a tight fisted miser like me you'll want your shiny new toys to last as long as feasible... that is all.
3mel said:
I haven't attracted enough hate this week so allow me to throw in this thought to you all.
the higher the amperage a lithium battery is charged with, the faster that cell will "age"!
consider the inconvenience Samsung has bestowed upon you as a blessing. if you are careful and never run your battery flat, never leave it at fully charged for long periods or sitting on a charger overnight at full, you can lose fewer of the cycles that are your batteries lifespan. charging with less current helps with this too. heat is your batteries enemy and fast charging creates more of it.
you might say "why would phone manufacturers produce chargers that would damage batteries over time ?" it doesn't hurt them if you buy a new phone sooner because the battery is weak. they'd prefer that than you getting 4 years life from a phone.
if you're a tight fisted miser like me you'll want your shiny new toys to last as long as feasible... that is all.
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This is 100% exactly why the do it.
Fast charging is a nice marketing point to brag about to sell their device NOW, not for it to last months and years in the future.
This is the same reason why we don't have removable batteries anymore... Why would Samsung sell you a $30 replacement battery when they can sell you a $700+ replacement phone or even warranty repair for $120 at worst.

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Please post car chargers with links, pics that work with P6P 30w max charge.
JGuinan007 said:
Please post car chargers with links, pics that work with P6P 30w max charge.
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Any USB-C PD 30W charger should work. Check out Amazon. If you want you can get a PPS charger, but PPS is not necessary.
Please note the Pixel 6 only supports 22 watt fast charging.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WYF9HP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WYF9HP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
LLStarks said:
Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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works fine, charges fast
BTW, charging tests with the new 30w Google charger and the Google charger from my 2XL were almost identical anyway...if the phone only charges at 22W, then any charger over 22W is sufficient...
That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YY7KQZP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_X2A31DX9F4R980FXB9V5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This one does have 30w but isn't PPS so don't think it'll actually hit the 22w since that's how Google's limited the charging.
LLStarks said:
That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
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To get the limited 22w charging that Google's put on the 6 Pro you do need PPS. The fastest PD will do is 18w.
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Amazon.com
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093BP4RM2 stuck to outside of my case.
It's not the prettiest solution, but seems to work well. No more cables to mess with. Just throw the phone on the pad and drive off. Probably not the fastest charger, but it's enough to run GPS and music, while still gaining charge, which is all I need.
Make sure the wireless charger supports the 15W Qi EPP (extended power profile) feature.
Otherwise you're stuck at 5W. Most no-name charging pads or cars with built-in wireless charging have been falling into this category but newer ones like the Tucson are 15W.
I'd like to know what the phone and Pixel Stand expect for 23W charging.
This Spigen is nice, name brand, high quality charger. It doesn't fit in one of my cars though, it's too short. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08PRZ815M/
LLStarks said:
Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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Received mine yesterday and was pleasantly surprised it came with a long, braided Type-C cable. I didn't actually read the description. There was a $6 coupon so I jumped on it. Will try to test and see how much current it outputs later this evening.
Considering I was at 36% the 4,148A charge current is pretty good. The highest I've seen with a PPS wall charge was 4400+.
I would've gained more in 28 minutes but 25 of it had YouTube running. Don't worry I pay attention to the road. The screen off %/h is right up there with my PPS wal charger.
I use my OnePlus 9 Pro car charger for my pixel and it does great!
biggiesmalls657 said:
I use my OnePlus 9 Pro car charger for my pixel and it does great!
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This one? That would be interesting if it really charges well for you because everyone else I've seen has had issues with OnePlus charges because it's not even Power Delivery. This one in particular is either the Warp Charge 5V=6A max or old slow 5V=2A charging.
LLStarks said:
That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
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Not to mention warp charge is completely propriety, requires specific circuitry in the phone and a USB lead with non standard wiring.
Is this good for pixel 6 charging because it's 5v-3amp, I have it already but just want to confirm if it is good enough and will not effect battery health in long run since it is 15w while charging.
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Planning to go for this if it is good enough or someone tried it.
.https://www.amazon.ae/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B094DFW7T7/ref=asc_df_B094DFW7T7/?tag=shoppingstd03-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=536270986798&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13302605630687776260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1000010&hvtargid=pla-1428198677430&psc=1
one thing I suggest, is don't skimp out on a car charger. many years ago, I messed up a few phones using crappy car chargers. the Zus Smart Charger is the best car charger I've ever used. the quality is incredible. its half price in the US at $16.99 (they should pay me or something!) -
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it's not the fastest, it charges my 6Pro at like 1200mah or so...but the quality alone is worth it. I've been using it since 2017 and I've charged all my pixels and tablets with it.
this might be the best kept secret - just for the app, that anyone can use for free!
I just wanted to add;; their app is pretty cool, the car charger will show your Voltage level for your car battery and a ton of other things. Their app also connects to any OBD-II adapter via bluetooth and you can have a ton of cool telemetry appear on your phone (like revs, speed, engine temps etc , for those who like that sorta thing). and it will help you find your parked car if you forget where you parked ha! last year they were sending out free OBD_II adapters (but you can use any) and with their free app that anybody can use, you can use it to log your drives by mileage and a ton of other features. it's pretty slick !!
but if you want a crazy fast car charger, the anker that someone posted above is excellent - but in the car, which is usually really hot, I don't want anything fast charging. keeping things cool is what I'm all about//

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