Related
I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
seanvree said:
I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AOSP is the code that gets pushed out directly from google and CM bases its work on this. Companies like Samsung and HTC build upon this code to create their own modifications which can vary greatly in apperance and features. Wicked is based on the Samsung firmware. This means you get many of the galaxy s3's exclusive features such as motion controls, smart stay etc. The apps are also themed to make the whole OS feel more integrated. The contact app, music app, dialer etc all share a certain consistency that, IMO is more polished.
CM on the other hand, brings a whole bunch of modifications and features that give you more control over your device. I cant really go through them here but if you do decide to go with CM, I advise you to spend a good 30-60 minutes going through each menu in the settings to get a good idea of whats available. Also, being based of AOSP, CM removes a lot of the bloatware that comes with the S3 giving you a less cluttered OS.
My recommendation: Do a backup of your current Wicked Rom in your recovery. I also recommend getting Titanium Backup to backup your apps and data. There's a free version available but the Pro version has much more extensive features namely that it can restore all your apps without you having to confirm each app. Both AOSP Roms and Samsung Roms I feel target different audiences so its up to you to decide which one best appeals to your usage
I came from sonic rom, and have been following the nightlies for bout 2 weeks. Obviously the biggest difference is jelly bean vs ICS.
Which when it comes down to it, isn't that big of a difference lol.
differences worthy of note for me:
1. Google now (which i guess is included in wicked too)
2. smoother faster
3. CM 10 does have a screen flicker rarely, but lately it seems to be all but gone.
4. quick sms reply in the notification (great!)
5. two finger swype down on emails and sms in notification to show more info
6. unlock screen much better than origional, choose apps to include in the lock screen
7. wifi hot spot actually works
8. browser seems better
9. volume rocker to skip songs while screen is off (love it)
10. sweet loving support of the CM staff (priceless)
11. raw google goodness
---------- Post added at 08:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:29 PM ----------
nicky is right, but NOT having all of samsungs proprietary features that come in touchwiz is in my opinion a huge plus.
smartstay, svoice, motion controls, and PIP are all very much meant for the tmobile storeroom, its a "hey look at what this does..." where as you continue to use you notice smartstay works about half the time, the motion controls are mostly unessary (when did the android phone turn into a wii remote, whats with all this moving lol), and the svoice is abhorent.
Google made their fortune off of software and apps, samsung has hardware down great.
But i'm typing this one of their laptops, same thing applies. The hardware and internals are great, but their little apps they add to windows were retarded and i did a clean reformat.
samsung device + pure google software = a wonderous thing
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
i been using this rom sense it came out, and it is the most stable rom out of the cm10's and aokp's roms that i have tried, havnt had one single problem with it, everythign works great on this too:good:
seanvree said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firstly, don't flash M1. Flash the newest one. Second, you can update without wiping, yes.
seanvree said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean by wipe. Everyone has there degree of "cleanliness", But I just wiped calvin wiped cash before every cm 10 nightly update. HOWEVER, if your going to cm for the first time or leaving cm, definately do a factory reset. Some guys do a factory reset every time, i found it was alright without it.
Sorry for being retarded, but I can't find anything about multi window feature in custom ROMs long feature list. I hate those useless feature with plenty of S, so I am looking for a vanilla ROM with:
1. Multi window feature
2. Change display mode from standard to natural,
3. S-Note
That is all. I don't need any fancy colorize or anything like samsung accounts, or smartstay, etc. Only a fast and stable phone to work with.
As for S-Note, if I can get its replacement so that I can write anything pretty quick, I can live with that.
Any suggestion which ROM does that? Or every ROM basically has those options without mention it?
Thank you
prd00 said:
Sorry for being retarded, but I can't find anything about multi window feature in custom ROMs long feature list. I hate those useless feature with plenty of S, so I am looking for a vanilla ROM with:
1. Multi window feature
2. Change display mode from standard to natural,
3. S-Note
That is all. I don't need any fancy colorize or anything. Only a fast and stable phone to work with.
Any suggestion which ROM does that? Or every ROM basically has those options without mention it?
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think you can get Vanilla ROM with TW features. But you can get Vanilla "look". May this is the ROM you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...s.com/showthread.php?t=2134099&highlight=aosp
As for bloatware by samsung, you can easily delete them from system apps. That's one of the benefits of rooting your phone.
praveen22 said:
I don't think you can get Vanilla ROM with TW features. But you can get Vanilla "look". May this is the ROM you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...s.com/showthread.php?t=2134099&highlight=aosp
As for bloatware by samsung, you can easily delete them from system apps. That's one of the benefits of rooting your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.. I will take a look at it.
What I meant was a lean ROM, that doesn't useless feature packed. I don't want fancy features like SmartStay or something like that, but I need that multiwindow and S-Note, or if I can get SNote replacement. Something that I can write pretty quick when I need to.
prd00 said:
Thanks.. I will take a look at it.
What I meant was a lean ROM, that doesn't useless feature packed. I don't want fancy features like SmartStay or something like that, but I need that multiwindow and S-Note, or if I can get SNote replacement. Something that I can write pretty quick when I need to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that's the case, try a ROM with floating multi window, I haven't tried one though. Awesome Notes HD is a great app. You can pin in on your notification drawer to get quick access to it. I don't use S-Note for most of my notes, its slow, if not laggy.
I use Android Revolution. Looks like the stock Samsung ROM, only it has a lot of bloat removed, and is quicker.
Phoenix ROM
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
prd00 said:
Sorry for being retarded, but I can't find anything about multi window feature in custom ROMs long feature list. I hate those useless feature with plenty of S, so I am looking for a vanilla ROM with:
1. Multi window feature
2. Change display mode from standard to natural,
3. S-Note
That is all. I don't need any fancy colorize or anything like samsung accounts, or smartstay, etc. Only a fast and stable phone to work with.
As for S-Note, if I can get its replacement so that I can write anything pretty quick, I can live with that.
Any suggestion which ROM does that? Or every ROM basically has those options without mention it?
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Multiwindow feature and S Note are both dependent on touchwiz frameworks. At the moment it is next to impossible to get them on AOSP/CM based roms. Also there are no other alternatives that are as good as Multiwindow at the moment, floating window apps dont even come close and are very limited. My suggestion to you is to download one of these sammy based roms particularly ARHD and use titanium backup app to freeze all the unwanted S apps.
Install android revolution rom... its fast and with out bloatware. U can top it up with simplistic framework if needed
There are too many roms and you will really get confused. Try one and see whats missing and find that one in another rom and install it.:good:
Alliance rom v3. Very polished, average of 30 of usage with 6 hours of screen time.
T.G.A said:
Install android revolution rom... its fast and with out bloatware. U can top it up with simplistic framework if needed
There are too many roms and you will really get confused. Try one and see whats missing and find that one in another rom and install it.:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL.. that's the problem. I've found too many ROMs, some claims it's stable, but other claims that it is not. I am looking a stable one, and I am not that fans of features and gimmicks. I don't even use sammy's keyboard. I can't part with swiftkey. I also have my own personal favorite apps from contacts, sms, radio, and many things, and I prefer to use those instead of bundled ones.
praveen22 said:
If that's the case, try a ROM with floating multi window, I haven't tried one though. Awesome Notes HD is a great app. You can pin in on your notification drawer to get quick access to it. I don't use S-Note for most of my notes, its slow, if not laggy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL.. ok.. SNote is dead.. I'll freeze that. I know awesome note, but AFAIK, there was no android version. Thanks for the pointer.
bushako said:
Multiwindow feature and S Note are both dependent on touchwiz frameworks. At the moment it is next to impossible to get them on AOSP/CM based roms. Also there are no other alternatives that are as good as Multiwindow at the moment, floating window apps dont even come close and are very limited. My suggestion to you is to download one of these sammy based roms particularly ARHD and use titanium backup app to freeze all the unwanted S apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't tried floating window yet.. but I'll try Android Revolution. Last time I freezed unused apps from sammy's stock rom, mine was plagued with too many FC. LOL. Perhaps I freezed too much.
Is Android Revolution stable?
xartic12 said:
Alliance rom v3. Very polished, average of 30 of usage with 6 hours of screen time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
McLaren__F1 said:
Phoenix ROM
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same question, is it stable?
Menchelke said:
I use Android Revolution. Looks like the stock Samsung ROM, only it has a lot of bloat removed, and is quicker.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
prd00 said:
LOL.. that's the problem. I've found too many ROMs, some claims it's stable, but other claims that it is not. I am looking a stable one, and I am not that fans of features and gimmicks. I don't even use sammy's keyboard. I can't part with swiftkey. I also have my own personal favorite apps from contacts, sms, radio, and many things, and I prefer to use those instead of bundled ones.
LOL.. ok.. SNote is dead.. I'll freeze that. I know awesome note, but AFAIK, there was no android version. Thanks for the pointer.
I haven't tried floating window yet.. but I'll try Android Revolution. Last time I freezed unused apps from sammy's stock rom, mine was plagued with too many FC. LOL. Perhaps I freezed too much.
Is Android Revolution stable?
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
Same question, is it stable?
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL... You are obsessed with stability. No one can satisfy your needs. It will be best if you can give us a new stable rom... No offence meant
Even i have tried so many roms before. Now i dont do that. I just prioritize as what i want in a rom. For me, stock sammy features were must. So ARHD suited me most. Then removed bloatware by rom cleaner so that i have more memory. Simplistic framework if you want to change certain things. Thats it. For me,my phone should not lag,should take what ever i throw at it,give decent battery. I got it with ARHD.
And always either do what majority follow cuz of feedback or experiment on your own. :good:
T.G.A said:
LOL... You are obsessed with stability. No one can satisfy your needs. It will be best if you can give us a new stable rom... No offence meant
Even i have tried so many roms before. Now i dont do that. I just prioritize as what i want in a rom. For me, stock sammy features were must. So ARHD suited me most. Then removed bloatware by rom cleaner so that i have more memory. Simplistic framework if you want to change certain things. Thats it. For me,my phone should not lag,should take what ever i throw at it,give decent battery. I got it with ARHD.
And always either do what majority follow cuz of feedback or experiment on your own. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, because I work a lot with my phone, using Citrix Receiver, ssh, and remote desktop everyday there, and can't do a lot of experiments. So, yeah.. that multiwindow is VERY important since remote desktop would disconnect when I switch, and I am trying to narrow down my candidate ROM list.
I can accept once a month FC, but not a constant nagging problem with pretty GUI like cMIUI or RR. Granted, some people prefer lot of features, with newest ROM, sacrificing stability, but that's not me. And my S2 was very stable with vanilla ROM, and I like stock Nexus very much. The reason why I was starting from there. Also there are lots of ROM there with different focus. Stable ones, featured ones, fast ones, pretty ones, etc.
Thanks for info. I have downloaded ARHD, and will flash it tonight.. any other stable ROM I should consider?
ARHD ROM is pretty stable minus user error. I think there's a list somewhere in these threads showing you what you can and what you shouldn't freeze. I honestly don't find freezing stock apps all that useful. For one they don't give you usable space and second they don't keep running in the background and seldom wake the phone. I'd say ArHD+ Simplistics+ Nova Launcher+ Perseus kernel and you're good to go.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
praveen22 said:
If that's the case, try a ROM with floating multi window, I haven't tried one though. Awesome Notes HD is a great app. You can pin in on your notification drawer to get quick access to it. I don't use S-Note for most of my notes, its slow, if not laggy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Downloaded awesome note, but it's hard to write something. I need to type with awesome note. But I'll keep both S-Note and aNote.
bushako said:
ARHD ROM is pretty stable minus user error. I think there's a list somewhere in these threads showing you what you can and what you shouldn't freeze. I honestly don't find freezing stock apps all that useful. For one they don't give you usable space and second they don't keep running in the background and seldom wake the phone. I'd say ArHD+ Simplistics+ Nova Launcher+ Perseus kernel and you're good to go.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't like it when those useless apps keep asking me to create a backup account, nor any app that always asking me to register, notif me a promo, ask me to leave comment, rate, or do something while it is in the background. I don't use them, but they keep annoy me. I hate that. I don't care too much for waking the phone, as my phone rarely sleep while I am awake. I also keeps 3 battery with me. As I said, I use my phone for work, and those useless notif always distracts me.
I tried Omega, AOKP, CyanogenMod and a couple of more on my old S2, my wifes S3 and my Note2.
For some reason I always fall back on WanamLite.
The most satisfying rom for me regarding stability, (stock camera), quick no wipe upgrades.
Never had issues, just works as it should.
Only missing a kitchen app like omegas kitchen but for Wanam.
So 1st place WanamLite
2nd Omega
3rd AOKP
All above w Nova Launcher
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
prd00 said:
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used to get so many FC om touchwiz, at least 4 on a daily basis. With Alliance v3 I've been getting a bit better battery life as well as smoothness. No FC and I never I'll wiped from v1 to v2 nor v2 to v3 and it's running incredibly stable.
AR HD no fuzz, all touchwiz
_____________________
Via GT-N71OO using XDA_Elite_App
To all posting questions about rom choice, I made a large survey of all roms from the index thread. It contains 57 roms and 160 version numbers to choose. With your participation all of us can see which is the most popular and also see the averaged score for rom features.
The link is in my sig.
Thank you.
prd00 said:
LOL.. that's the problem. I've found too many ROMs, some claims it's stable, but other claims that it is not. I am looking a stable one, and I am not that fans of features and gimmicks. I don't even use sammy's keyboard. I can't part with swiftkey. I also have my own personal favorite apps from contacts, sms, radio, and many things, and I prefer to use those instead of bundled ones.
LOL.. ok.. SNote is dead.. I'll freeze that. I know awesome note, but AFAIK, there was no android version. Thanks for the pointer.
I haven't tried floating window yet.. but I'll try Android Revolution. Last time I freezed unused apps from sammy's stock rom, mine was plagued with too many FC. LOL. Perhaps I freezed too much.
Is Android Revolution stable?
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
Same question, is it stable?
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a misconception. It is not much faster than the stock rom... I am currently using Android revolution hd... But if you have to install then arh is the safest option though but quite useless..
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
Ahmed.ragab said:
try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you, I'll give it a try on the stable version.
For future reference, and to save the trouble for other people who may come here and need to search the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120340
Thank you very much.
PS: in the mean time I'm open to more suggestions, just in case.
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
mirosz said:
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The rom crashes the settings applet everytime I try to change language to Portuguese.
Can't add widgets with aviate launcher (settings crashes)
otherwise seems alright.
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After reading a lot, I believe I can confirm that only GB, and stock ICS are stable, as with no issues, some little glitches but no deal breakers. As for Rogers, there's only Osimod GB ROM based of Rogers. The rest are based of UCLJ3
lasuazo said:
After reading a lot, I believe I can confirm that only GB, and stock ICS are stable, as with no issues, some little glitches but no deal breakers. As for Rogers, there's only Osimod GB ROM based of Rogers. The rest are based of UCLJ3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok thanks lasuazo ;--)
I guess omni and cm11
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I may be off base here but I guess the [4.4] cyanogenmod 11 and omni ROM are pretty much stable ...
Though the pretty much is still a while away from complete the following are the general bugs with bubor's amazing Roms:
There is an audio bug when making VoIP calls which gives audio latency ..
There is fixed camera rotation which means all the pictures are in landscape
There is no Wi-Fi direct
Google experience launcher is not that Good looking (I know I am complaining)
Google maps 7 has issues but can be dual loaded with maps 6 so they work
Backlight,PPI, lag all have fixes though
Battery drain is a bit more
But as far as performance goes... They are pretty smooth..
So I guess make your choice
thefusor said:
I may be off base here but I guess the [4.4] cyanogenmod 11 and omni ROM are pretty much stable ...
Though the pretty much is still a while away from complete the following are the general bugs with bubor's amazing Roms:
There is an audio bug when making VoIP calls which gives audio latency ..
There is fixed camera rotation which means all the pictures are in landscape
There is no Wi-Fi direct
Google experience launcher is not that Good looking (I know I am complaining)
Google maps 7 has issues but can be dual loaded with maps 6 so they work
Backlight,PPI, lag all have fixes though
Battery drain is a bit more
But as far as performance goes... They are pretty smooth..
So I guess make your choice
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i wish i could agree with you.. im running kitkat crdroid, and like every rom i have flashed over the years, has plenty of bugs that make it very annoying as a daily rom. phone switching off twice a day, icons/widgets dissapearing after rebooting, becomes laggy after a week or so of usig the rom, laggy browsing on all browsers, trebucket crashing regurly etc etc, thats on top of the bugs you list.. the only roms that are stable are completely finished official cm or miui roms (which there are none for this fone..). the stock rom is the only one that has not given me trouble. with the greatest respect to those that put their time i to make these roms, im sure people who flash them make them out to be more stable than they really are unfortunatelly.
Maybe we have developer aura or something like that? I'm sure I just used 4.4 PAC ROM for a week without reboot or any crashes. Bluetooth, fixed camera rotation and VoIP - yes, these are issues we can't fix, the same is with google maps v.7 (we just have no hardware NEON support that uses v.7 of maps). There is also issue with wi-fi: if you turn it off, it sometimes don't turns on until reboot. As for myself, I just never turn it off.
Besides of these issues, everything is smooth and stable. Really is. But I got sometimes trebuchet crashes - this was a time when I flashed dirty and didn't make a factory reset - the new trebuchet version sometimes conflicts with the data from old version. I just went to Settings - Apps, found Trebuchet (or Launcher3 if old version) and tapped Erase Data. And the issue was gone! But I recommend to always make a factory reset with new ROM. That's really important.
And even if you have those constant trebuchet bugs whatever you do (icons disappearing is also a trebuchet bug, I never encountered it though), just install a different launcher. Google now launcher is the basic, and is like trebuchet in many ways, miui one is also good, and others, they are many!
I had problems with some icons disappearing when the system reboots. I found that the icons that disappeared were for applications which were installed on the SD card. When I moved them to the system, they stopped disappearing.
Makshow said:
Maybe we have developer aura or something like that? I'm sure I just used 4.4 PAC ROM for a week without reboot or any crashes. Bluetooth, fixed camera rotation and VoIP - yes, these are issues we can't fix, the same is with google maps v.7 (we just have no hardware NEON support that uses v.7 of maps). There is also issue with wi-fi: if you turn it off, it sometimes don't turns on until reboot. As for myself, I just never turn it off.
Besides of these issues, everything is smooth and stable. Really is. But I got sometimes trebuchet crashes - this was a time when I flashed dirty and didn't make a factory reset - the new trebuchet version sometimes conflicts with the data from old version. I just went to Settings - Apps, found Trebuchet (or Launcher3 if old version) and tapped Erase Data. And the issue was gone! But I recommend to always make a factory reset with new ROM. That's really important.
And even if you have those constant trebuchet bugs whatever you do (icons disappearing is also a trebuchet bug, I never encountered it though), just install a different launcher. Google now launcher is the basic, and is like trebuchet in many ways, miui one is also good, and others, they are many!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
like i said in my first post, i do really appriciate the fact that people spend Alot of time cooking theese roms, and it easy for me to come along and moan about them, but i have found over the years that after using a custom rom for a couple of weeks or so, its like the ram seems to gradually get eaten away, the device gradually slows down, becomes laggy and ultimately unuseable (not just this fone, and not just me that says this). im not saying all are like this, just many i have used, mainly because they never get finished.
i am very open though to people suggesting that i am doing something wrong, and maybe you have picked up on that something.. you say you do a factory reset, can i ask, do you mean a factory reset in the fone settings, or are you referring to a full wipe using cwm/twrp? as when i flash, i wipe everything accept what i dont want wiped on the external sd.. i dont factory reset, is this after you have flashed the new rom? or before you flash a new rom?
also thank you for the erase data tip for trebucket, i will try that.. i have not used the google now launcher yet, but i tried using miui launcher but when i went back to trebucket the lockscreen stayed as the miui lockscreen, which has happened on past cm roms, so i just deleted it.
just gets a bit frustrating when you spend hours getting everything working/setting up personalisation, then the phone just seems to start getting worse day by day, but maybe like you say, its cos i "dirty flashed"?
linuxguy42 said:
I had problems with some icons disappearing when the system reboots. I found that the icons that disappeared were for applications which were installed on the SD card. When I moved them to the system, they stopped disappearing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i did think that, and im sure you are right, but i have had every app/folder/widget dissappear twice now, then, randomly over several restarts, some widgets/apps will replace themselves over the top of the new ones i have just newly placed there.. strange, but i have came across this before on cm roms, so im sure there is a bug there somewhere, even if it is not too common..
jmpcrx said:
you say you do a factory reset, can i ask, do you mean a factory reset in the fone settings, or are you referring to a full wipe using cwm/twrp? as when i flash, i wipe everything accept what i dont want wiped on the external sd.. i dont factory reset, is this after you have flashed the new rom? or before you flash a new rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, what you do should suffice. I meant cwm/twrp wipe (boot, system, data, cache, android.secure). SD card is not touched. So you are doing fine with that, but anyway, there has to be something make those issues... Can you look at /system/addon.d folder? There is stored info about files that will be preserved even if you install a new ROM with a wipe. If there are many leftovers from ROMs or programs you tried earlier, then you should try to manually clear this folder before new ROM install.
the device gradually slows down, becomes laggy and ultimately unuseable
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was the point with pre-4.2 ROMs, and even with 4.2 there was a bug with gallery thumbnails which made it to eat gigabyte and more of storage after some time. That was fixed in CM 10.1.3. Also a Lite-Kernel used by earlier ROMs is very great, but has its issues, for example, systemui crashes when camera launch after some phone use and sleep of death.
I used CM 10.1.3 for a a three months and still keeping a backup of it for a some case. There was no slowing or lagging, it was almost perfect (if you don't use VoIP or BT handset) even after those months of use. Strangely, but I didn't have even "settings -> about crash" issue bubor listed!
Welll here are some tip which have helped me
jmpcrx said:
i wish i could agree with you.. im running kitkat crdroid, and like every rom i have flashed over the years, has plenty of bugs that make it very annoying as a daily rom. phone switching off twice a day, icons/widgets dissapearing after rebooting, becomes laggy after a week or so of usig the rom, laggy browsing on all browsers, trebucket crashing regurly etc etc, thats on top of the bugs you list.. the only roms that are stable are completely finished official cm or miui roms (which there are none for this fone..). the stock rom is the only one that has not given me trouble. with the greatest respect to those that put their time i to make these roms, im sure people who flash them make them out to be more stable than they really are unfortunatelly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i .. umm.. well i agree that as of now they have issues but they will get better .. ours is an old device... so i guess we should tread slowly . which is exactly what the developers are doing .. .
and i agree on the ram hungry part but there are ways for that too . .
funny i have been messaging people to help me post this stuff through them . . but well thats the prob with being a junior member .
My personal tested suggestions for omni rom which have really incremented to the performace some of which are :
- using one of the lightest launchers as i find trebuchet and even google launcher RAM hungry is 'Lightning Launcher' the bloody app itself is in BYTES!!
-also i use link2sd with ext4 that helps in storage and also use sd maid for regular clean up.
-also i have been testing memory swapping using linux swap partition on sd card (class 10 ) and yeah i know it degrades sd card but oh well like Glados testing testing testing
-i have also switch off startup at boot for certain apps
and i apologize for posting what maybe well known tricks or improvs but i really dont know where else to post these (still have the ten post ban from posting )
and if these dont help then sorry to waste your time . .
PS anyone think an F2FS file system like for the nexus7 would\might help ?
tl;dr use the given tips maybe they might help . . and with custom roms i guess you have to spend time to keep them running well .
Makshow said:
Yes, what you do should suffice. I meant cwm/twrp wipe (boot, system, data, cache, android.secure). SD card is not touched. So you are doing fine with that, but anyway, there has to be something make those issues... Can you look at /system/addon.d folder? There is stored info about files that will be preserved even if you install a new ROM with a wipe. If there are many leftovers from ROMs or programs you tried earlier, then you should try to manually clear this folder before new ROM install.
That was the point with pre-4.2 ROMs, and even with 4.2 there was a bug with gallery thumbnails which made it to eat gigabyte and more of storage after some time. That was fixed in CM 10.1.3. Also a Lite-Kernel used by earlier ROMs is very great, but has its issues, for example, systemui crashes when camera launch after some phone use and sleep of death.
I used CM 10.1.3 for a a three months and still keeping a backup of it for a some case. There was no slowing or lagging, it was almost perfect (if you don't use VoIP or BT handset) even after those months of use. Strangely, but I didn't have even "settings -> about crash" issue bubor listed!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok thanks, i cleared the data in trebucket, and started again with placing apps/widgets on home screen, and i also have deleted the hacked version of adobe flash that you install with dolphin browser, and, supprisingly after a couple of days of testing, my apps/widgets are not deleting themselves, the phone is significantly less laggy, and i have had no switch offs, so, im very pleased with that! so id suggest against downloading that version of flash player with this rom..
thefusor said:
i .. umm.. well i agree that as of now they have issues but they will get better .. ours is an old device... so i guess we should tread slowly . which is exactly what the developers are doing .. .
and i agree on the ram hungry part but there are ways for that too . .
funny i have been messaging people to help me post this stuff through them . . but well thats the prob with being a junior member .
My personal tested suggestions for omni rom which have really incremented to the performace some of which are :
- using one of the lightest launchers as i find trebuchet and even google launcher RAM hungry is 'Lightning Launcher' the bloody app itself is in BYTES!!
-also i use link2sd with ext4 that helps in storage and also use sd maid for regular clean up.
-also i have been testing memory swapping using linux swap partition on sd card (class 10 ) and yeah i know it degrades sd card but oh well like Glados testing testing testing
-i have also switch off startup at boot for certain apps
and i apologize for posting what maybe well known tricks or improvs but i really dont know where else to post these (still have the ten post ban from posting )
and if these dont help then sorry to waste your time . .
PS anyone think an F2FS file system like for the nexus7 would\might help ?
tl;dr use the given tips maybe they might help . . and with custom roms i guess you have to spend time to keep them running well .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
some good tips there, thankyou, i havent tried any of them yet, but i will have a go at some of them and see what happens.. thanks thfusor..
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For what it's worth, I recently had to reflash and decided to use dman325's stock UCLJ3. (He has two versions, stock and one with the aosp lockscreen. If you decide to use either, use the stock one. dman325 had to resign the aosp one with a test signing key that, recently, got invalidated or declined and it prevents Google Play from updating past 3.7.15 and Google Play Services wont install at all because of a shared_uid fault due to certificate conflict, etc.)
I got frustrated with the amount of bloat in an otherwise vendor fun-packed rom, so I went in and hacked out lots of crap. Largely relying on either "what is safe to get rid of" lists for similar samsung phones and my own poking around/guestimation using dex2jar and jd-gui. I really, honestly don't understand what InputEventApp.apk was meant to do. Seriously. But, getting rid of it reduced the logcat spam tremendously. Also, the wsslcm* apks are somewhat frightening in appearance.
I've gone a few steps further, I modified android.policy.jar smali to prevent the emergency dial option from showing up on the lock screen - I accidentally pocket dialed 911 a year ago and am not about to do that again. I also modified the kernel ramdisk image to set ro.debuggable=1 and ro.secure=0. I tried, while I was at it, to replace /dev/random with /dev/urandom, but I'll have to do some experimenting.
I've added a few static binaries for proper gnu utilities. bash, ls, grep, sort, du, etc. It surprises me that a functional shell environment doesn't get more attention on phones with keyboards.
So, that's my $0.02. Try the stock UCLJ3 and fiddle with it a bit. Good luck.
etherfish said:
For what it's worth, I recently had to reflash and decided to use dman325's stock UCLJ3. (He has two versions, stock and one with the aosp lockscreen. If you decide to use either, use the stock one. dman325 had to resign the aosp one with a test signing key that, recently, got invalidated or declined and it prevents Google Play from updating past 3.7.15 and Google Play Services wont install at all because of a shared_uid fault due to certificate conflict, etc.)
I got frustrated with the amount of bloat in an otherwise vendor fun-packed rom, so I went in and hacked out lots of crap. Largely relying on either "what is safe to get rid of" lists for similar samsung phones and my own poking around/guestimation using dex2jar and jd-gui. I really, honestly don't understand what InputEventApp.apk was meant to do. Seriously. But, getting rid of it reduced the logcat spam tremendously. Also, the wsslcm* apks are somewhat frightening in appearance.
I've gone a few steps further, I modified android.policy.jar smali to prevent the emergency dial option from showing up on the lock screen - I accidentally pocket dialed 911 a year ago and am not about to do that again. I also modified the kernel ramdisk image to set ro.debuggable=1 and ro.secure=0. I tried, while I was at it, to replace /dev/random with /dev/urandom, but I'll have to do some experimenting.
I've added a few static binaries for proper gnu utilities. bash, ls, grep, sort, du, etc. It surprises me that a functional shell environment doesn't get more attention on phones with keyboards.
So, that's my $0.02. Try the stock UCLJ3 and fiddle with it a bit. Good luck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks etherfish, if i continue to have probs i may well do that, i was thinking about going back to stock. dont think i have the confidence to fiddle like you have though as im more of a windows man than linux, but thanks for the great advice
jmpcrx said:
thanks etherfish, if i continue to have probs i may well do that, i was thinking about going back to stock. dont think i have the confidence to fiddle like you have though as im more of a windows man than linux, but thanks for the great advice
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, you learn by doing, I believe. Also, I have a classy - for a flip phone - Motorola Razr2 v8 kicking around I can always put my SIM into if I've managed to hose my captivate glide. Also, I'm replying because I can't post in the rom development forum until I have 10 posts. Hurray for well founded, but nonetheless arbitrary restrictions. So, a number of things have piqued my curiosity.
So, first of all, this surprised me in the logs:
Code:
I/Launcher( 2263): onCreate(): product model family:U1 product model : GT-I9221
I'd always wondered why I had an SGH-I927 when other phones, like the remarkably similar Galaxy R, are GT-I9103. Is/was GT-I9221 an internal reference?
Also, there are other inconsistencies, for example:
Code:
D/RILJ ( 426): [1718]> REQUEST_GET_NEIGHBORING_CELL_IDS
D/RILJ ( 426): [1718]< REQUEST_GET_NEIGHBORING_CELL_IDS error: com.android.internal.telephony.CommandException: REQUEST_NOT_SUPPORTED
If you jump into the debug/field test menu system, (dial *#*#197328640#*#* ) you can bring up the list of neighboring cells in both GSM and WCDMA modes... So, why is the request marked not supported? Furthermore, why didn't samsung disable the request in the first place if they went to the trouble of disabling it from working. I imagine this has a reason, but I doubt it's a terribly great one.
And the FM receiver? I do believe our broadcom BCM4329 is a bluetooth+wifi_in_an_sdcard (well, SDIO really, but still, not pci-e and not usb.) and has an FM receiver built in, but it's omitted and hidden?
Code:
W/AudioPolicyManager( 112): FM radio recording off
Oh, the conspiracy theories. And then there's the weird lines you discover if you dump the string identifiers from /system/bin/drexe!
For example, these lines are all sequential:
Code:
broadcast -a android.provider.Telephony.SECRET_CODE android_secret_code://767*3855
InvokeOemRequestHookRaw broadcast factorst OK
InvokeOemRequestHookRaw factorst fail %d
/system/.configure.txt
(what's with /system/.configure.txt???)
Do not type 767*3855 into your phone. It's the factory wipe code or possibly part of it. I do believe drexe is the DataRouter you often see spamming the logs with:
Code:
E/DataRouter( 107): usb connection is true
E/DataRouter( 107): DSR is ON. Don't send DTR ON.
And we find these strings in drexe:
Code:
__initialize_usb_ipc
/data/.usb_stream
usb connection is true
InvokeOemRequestHookRaw usbstatus true is success
oh, and:
Code:
pipe failed (%s)
fork failed (%s)
child pid = %d.
execute sh.
system/bin/sh
execl fail %d
What do you think? Why does drexe seem to have code to support and start a shell? Well, if nothing else, thank you for reading.
P.S. I don't suspect anything the least bit conspiracy like, malicious, or devious. I've worked for some huge companies; i don't think it'd be likely.
etherfish said:
Also, I'm replying because I can't post in the rom development forum until I have 10 posts. Hurray for well founded, but nonetheless arbitrary restrictions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Technically, you can post in cappy dev forums started from 3 posts. I saw someone posting there his fourth post.
As for other things you listed... Well, I'll be glad to have an FM receiver in our glide. But I really think that reason for all this staff can be as simply as hands growing from wrong place or restricted development time...
Makshow said:
Technically, you can post in cappy dev forums started from 3 posts. I saw someone posting there his fourth post.
As for other things you listed... Well, I'll be glad to have an FM receiver in our glide. But I really think that reason for all this staff can be as simply as hands growing from wrong place or restricted development time...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I recently, after some research, also installed dans stock (i decided to go complete stock since i didnt know what the lock screen thing meant).
I havent had any trouble with being outdated. Only thing i noticed (unless im doing it wrong, im new to this phone) was that screencaps dont work. its power button and volume down, right?
Other things id like to customize are data being in the top drawer instead of bluetooth (since i never use it), and id like to be able to see who texted me on the lock screen, but while still using the stock messaging app, and without an app having to constantly run.
Other than those couple of things its been great!
im HOPING down the road for an un-buggy or at least minimally buggy version of 4.4. well see what happens with that i guess.
Some help
Pawprints1986 said:
I recently, after some research, also installed dans stock (i decided to go complete stock since i didnt know what the lock screen thing meant).
I havent had any trouble with being outdated. Only thing i noticed (unless im doing it wrong, im new to this phone) was that screencaps dont work. its power button and volume down, right?
Other things id like to customize are data being in the top drawer instead of bluetooth (since i never use it), and id like to be able to see who texted me on the lock screen, but while still using the stock messaging app, and without an app having to constantly run.
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i always say stock is best cause it IS optimized however there are things like keep and total Google integration that i like so i updated to kit kat
for screen caps if they dont work i could maybe suggest an application called super manager its pretty loaded it has screen cap and may even give you prox sense wake up for device.
also customizing the drawer hmm.. i guess you could try xposed framework but please be careful and make a backup before
as for who texts you and the content of the text you could try dash clock its able to do a lot
hello guys I was just wondering if I could get some help since I returned back to fully Ice Cream Sandwich Stock. I completely removed all the system bloat with link2sd, uninstalled all att crap. Can anyone recommend me something since I feel the ram consuption still to high... battery so far is doing kind of good almost as in crdroid
But i believe it can be improved. Any recommended settings or something else i can do? Already tried lite kernel but it gave me some issues. Rather keep stock. Any recommendations please guys. Also if you know a "ok google" like app or something as a swifty assistant would be nice. Please recommend. Thanks in advance
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
well that depends.. on what you mean with "finished"
I have tested all (3 months ago) available ROMs for the Glide. IMO the best available ROM is PACman but as said it depends. I used pac_i927-milestone.1.RC1.4.zip for a long time (months) without having any issues besides Bluetooth Headset which is a general problem in JB and higher version). I have tried other PACMan ROM versions as well but the above one was the best of stability and battery life (in my case).
So it depends what features you really need or are a must-have for you. If you do not have bluetooth headsets I would recommend the above otherwise .. well I would recommend sediROM
Regards
xdajog
---------- Post added at 02:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:33 PM ----------
lasuazo said:
hello guys I was just wondering if I could get some help since I returned back to fully Ice Cream Sandwich Stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haven't done that before but would be rooted ICS stock also ok for you?
If so:
--> search for thread ID 1994902 or search for: [ROM] Stock UCLJ3 Rooted, Deodexed, Zipaligned
(sorry not allowed to post links..)
Regards
xdajog
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
TheTempleRunner said:
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get a Mi phone for all those features plus a mi phone will have better support for miui roms. Oxygen os is close to stock with some little functional tweaks. it doesn't have anything fancy like miui. But if you would ask me which rom is better i would say oos. it's simple clean less gimmicky. Hope this helps you.
Hi,
If you want to try MIUI, I suggests, buy Mi5... A MIUI port won't stable than an original one.
From my perspective: MIUI is really beautiful... If you see the screenshots.... You should try it. I think, everyone tried at least once... But for daily driver? No way. If you ever used AOSP based roms (oos, cm, etc), you won't use MIUI. I'm 80% sure, that you'll replace the original launcher. Than you'll sick some annoying incompatibles... Just look at MIUI forums. Problems with pop-up windows (for example Facebook messanger), problems with Android Pay, etc, etc.
I was ordered Mi5 (4/128G), but it went to out of stock, so I got refund... That was my luck. Now, I'm a happy OP3 user, and I don't need MIUI... That's my opinion.
As someone who previously always used stock or near stock ROMS, I currently own a Xiaomi Mi5. I ran with Miui for about a few weeks, but it really frustrated the hell out of me. Yes it looks nice, but I was always finding background apps just randomly stopped working or you had to allow extra security settings. I tried Google Now Loader on it, but that randonmly stopped working. In the end, I've flashed CM on it. So much better.
Going from a stock or near stock rom to MIUI is like going from Android to Apple. I will be returning my Mi5 to stock and selling on, as I now have a OP3 on the way.
Another reason - community support for OP3 is already strong. The Mi5 support thread is a joke.
TheTempleRunner said:
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why dont you try the hos
for me OOS is better than miui. as i prefer stock android ui than heavily skinned miui.
MIUI 8 is cool- looking, feature-rich, but i just dont like the ios lookalike UX.
I have bad experiences with Oxygen in OP1 and 2, always uses CM or H20 ,
but if you are wondering about phones which running those 2 OS - Xiaomi mi5 and OP3, i think i should go for OP3, MI5 looks cheap with white color,and huge bezels
All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers mobile app
I think both are not compareable. They try to reach different goals (MIUI feature rich and pretty colorful while OOS wants to add some features but stay close to stock). It depends mainly on the user.
I will be happy with tweaked OOS once my device will be delivered while you can count on custom ported MIUI roms. There's not that better one imho
CrashTestDroid said:
All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It mean "call recording" is not available in Oxygen?
I expect your answer to flash Oxygen. My OP3 is running H20 and if it isn't "call recording", i will not flash.
all oxygen is is stock android with a few apps from oneplus. plus it supports layers themeing. so yes IMO its almost as good as getting a nexus and much better than miui.
OOS on a Mi5?
I'm not sold on the aesthetic and a couple aspects of the OP3, I quite prefer the Mi5. I'm strongly considering attempting to load OxygenOS onto the 4/128gb Mi5 as my next phone and it sounds like people in this thread might have direct experience with this setup.
Any thoughts/tips? I unfortunately can't wait for the new Nexus phone(s) but I'm also considering a couple phones from ZTE & Huawei...
Thanks
Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
Keij0 said:
Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks but I specifically don't like iOS and wanting a phone that doesn't look like an iPhone is part of the draw towards the Mi5. That R7 Plus is an interesting phone, but for me the screen is too big and the CPU & GPU are quite subpar.
No one who makes a smartphone for the US has made one with the specs I'm looking for. OP3 falls short, the Nexus 6P is too far behind now, I find the Galaxy S7 to be hideous, the G5 was a disappointment. The HTC 10 is the closest bet but it's battery life sucks probably due to its pointlessly 4K screen.
The Huawei P9, Honor V8, ZTE Nubia Z11, and the Mi5 Pro are my top contenders at the moment, but there's no way I'm using their own OSs.
IMO Samsung is a big disappointment, because of their weird things like Knox.
boy i hate miui.. its known to bring gingerbread memory leak issues to marshmellow ! hahaha on the mi5 it restarts apps unnecessarily lol
Gingerbread didn't have memory leaks... or I've not experienced them while I was using it. In comparison, lollipop and above always had them on my Z2. That's why I started porting SailfishOS
Simontjee said:
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using the Mi launcher too. The look and feel of Miui and the best of OOS or Exodus Rom
OOS is great out of the box - stock Android with goodies (and useful goodies at that). Really stable and fast.
And since it's very near to stock Android, many Xposed modules work, so you can customize it much very easily.
It is beyond me why someone could prefer MIUI over that.