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Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
because when you root your phone, it does a lot of alterations and depending on what you do with root access (such as... put something in /system/ etc etc) there are a lot of variables. This may affect future OTAs, and if you do accept them and you did those altercations then your phone will not brick but there will be problems booting up/applying it etc etc.
So in the end, you might as well take things into your own hand and flash. If you're going to root, do it the WHOLE way. Not go half in, and half out. That's just my opinion.
And sigh, another thread about what ROM to choose from. Look at the dev section and look at all the ROMs and depending on the comments + features (OP post) have to offer. Select your choice there. The most popular combo is AOKP with Franco Kernel.
And if someone is new, I'd leave their phone stock. Otherwise, you'll be holding their hands and asking you questions on how to do things. A rooted phone is that person's responsibility.
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Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Are you trying to insist your brother flash? Maybe he is quite content with stock and knows it is stable and root just gives the extra privileges he wants. I am running stock and almost pure kernel rooted and very happy.
let it be.
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Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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If he doesn't see the need for it, then he shouldn't put a ROM on the phone. Don't push him to do it. He's a smart guy, let him make his own decisions. The worst thing you can do is force him to use a custom ROM when he doesn't want to, and have him regret it.
Zorachus said:
Please help explain to my Brother who just got a GSM Nexus from the Play/Market store, what benefits there are to installing a good stable ROM over just Rooting the phone ? My bro is super smart, he's a programmer, and knows a ton about technology, etc..He just mentioned he's happy Rooted and that's it.
I have the Verizon Nexus, and rooted and ROM'd the first day I bought it, and love trying out different ROM's. But what is a good reason to install a nice ROM, instead of just using the stock Nexus that is Rooted ? How would you explain that to someone new to this phone ? And why do it ?
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Im too a software developer and a electronics engineer, and i was a stock lover until i tried AOKP Milestone, i would never go back to stock, the feature rich/stabilty/power saving/customization of this rom its just godly.. He wont ever know what are the ICS's real calabilities until he try out whats there.. He can always go back to pure stock.. So i dont see the point on non flashing and testing roms..
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Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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Because he'll be able to sit at the cool kids table at lunch.
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He could always stay stock and sit at the "my phone always works" table .
Such a simple question. Because it adds tons of features and functions. You can't really make a judgement saying you're fine stock if you don't know the other side of the question what the other roms offer. Only when you try both can you say yes or no you're happy with or without stock.
My personal opinion, the roms on this phone offer god like amount of features worth using.
Hello people, I hope you are all well.
So I have bought myself a Galaxy Nexus and will be selling my Galaxy SII. I decided to get the GNex, because I wanted as close to a Google phone as possible (along with the purchase of my Nexus 7).
Now, for the longest time, regardless of which Android phone / tablet I've had I normally end up loading a custom rom, which invariably ends up being CyanogenMod.
Now what to do, should I go custom again or should I try stock this time (for my N7 I've stuck with stock for the time being)?
Or should I use stock and see how the custom roms develop?
I guess more than anything I'm just thinking out aloud.
I got the gnex because of the vast amount of roms but I guess my phone does not like custom roms and prefers stock ics I have left it stock plus the leak of vz jb for their gnex prompted this too. If vz gnex has a leak means they are working on it and the sprint version should be out soon
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donsh00tmesanta said:
I got the gnex because of the vast amount of roms but I guess my phone does not like custom roms and prefers stock ics I have left it stock plus the leak of vz jb for their gnex prompted this too. If vz gnex has a leak means they are working on it and the sprint version should be out soon
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Ha, interesting. Luckily as I'm on GSM, I am now rocking JB on my phone.
Must be nice!!!! Lol
Nandroid and try out a custom rom. Codename android has lots of features
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play around with custom roms when you are bored but I wouldn't flash my daily driver cause no time to keep up with it.
Note: it's highly addicting
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Word
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hp13 said:
play around with custom roms when you are bored but I wouldn't flash my daily driver cause no time to keep up with it.
Note: it's highly addicting
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hep, I know its highly addictive!! I just get lazy having to reset all the widgets / settings etc!
custom stock. since we own an aosp device after all.
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try custom roms..u wudnt wanna get back to stock
The stock Jelly Bean is wonderful....Old versions of Android missed many things which forced us to have custom ROMs. But with JB, switch to custom only if you really need some tweaks.
The only thing you will need to do is rooting.
I rooted the phone, installed a couple of custom roms, but came back to stock. Custom roms offer a wonderful world of customizations, but for the Nexus, its still evolving and it comes with some bugs or minor problems. You may end up switching roms...
As for me, the stock is smooth and stable. And since I have root, I can always do a selective mod if needed!
You have stock JB on your N7 so why not play around a little?! :good:
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hep, I know its highly addictive!! I just get lazy having to reset all the widgets / settings etc!
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Everything can be backed up. So there's no reason to ever have to manually restore stuff.
Anyway, no question try custom ROMs, then make the decision if you prefer stock or not. But without a doubt you have to try custom ROMs to determine if you like them or not.
Thanks for the input guys. Yep, already rooted, so that's all good.
I actually used Titanium backup to backup all my apps form my SG2 and shift them over to the GNex. I also restored the user data (yes, I know you should not do that, but, touchwood, everything got transferred OK).
I guess I'll play around with stock first, just to get used to it, and then after a week or so, may give some custom roms a try.
Please help with going back to stock using a Mac
Hello, I have looked at all the guides and googled everything possible regarding returning my recently purchased Sprint GNEX back to stock so I can get the ota Jelly Bean from Sprint whenever they decide to roll it down.
I have found all kinds of vids and tutorials regarding using a pc to do this, even one post/guide that said just follow this pc guide and do this for a mac but it only confused the "H" out of me lol.
I am currently using the Codename Android JB rom but I was guided with a perfect video and guide to even do this. I am a noob or whatever they call us.
Could someone, if there is someone who knows help me find a way to go back to 4.04 on Sprint using a MAC. Please do not direct me to the guides I have seen on here for mac because they are either not for my Sprint version or are only instructions for PC. The person who did help me get Codename Android does have a youtube vid for unrooting but I tried it and it does not work for me.
There is not a whole lot around here for mac which I totally understand do this being geared to a more open system than Apple.
Thanks for any advice. I would like to get this done even if the update takes even longer to come down. I just want to be back to where I was when I bought the Sprint GNEX so I can get regular ota updates. I do not think messing with flashing is for me and on the plus side for you guys, it'll be one less dope you have to deal with.
If you are already familiar with cyanogenmod, then how could you ever settle for stock? Although CM10 is still in it's infant stages, it is coming along rather nicely. The only selling point of stock ROMs over custom ones is their reliability and even stock Android has been known to have bugs. Be honest with yourself, if you have the know how to install a custom ROM, you will never be happy unless you are flashing nightlies. You're an addict just like the rest of us, face it!
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Thank you Mike
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If you are already familiar with cyanogenmod, then how could you ever settle for stock? Although CM10 is still in it's infant stages, it is coming along rather nicely. The only selling point of stock ROMs over custom ones is their reliability and even stock Android has been known to have bugs. Be honest with yourself, if you have the know how to install a custom ROM, you will never be happy unless you are flashing nightlies. You're an addict just like the rest of us, face it!
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For the record, I absolutely don't have the know how to install these things or root unlock etc etc. The only reason I was able to do it was due to a vid for very amateur persons. I am just a 44 yr old lady and just want to not be messing around with my phone. In fact I do not know if I even properly rooted or installed because as I said when I went to the vid from the great guy who helped me install codename, he also had a vid to unroot for mac with a sprint phone. it was such easy steps and my phone would not do it I got errors saying radio failed blah blah blah. Also don't know if I am even rooted or not but I am still on the codename rom and not back to 4.04. Is Cyangenmod what I am running? See what I mean? My issues is I am one who should not be messing around with my phone. And especially when everytime a new rom or update comes along, I have to have someone practically baby step me through it.
As for this codename android it is great. Am I rooted if I have it? See again, I literally know nothing about developing flashing rooting etc. It is just too much for my non technical brain, and as I said I really did not install this on my own and cannot even get back to stock on my own and to top it off I have only a macbook pro.
Now please do not be upset with me because I think the droid open platform is awesome compared to Apple's closed forum but being someone whom, as I said should not be messing with my phone in the 1st play since I do not understand nor do I know wth I am doing when I read instructions, I really miss my old iphone 4 8gb since I couldn't do nothing special with it.
Also I honeslty do not do too much on my phone but am the materialistic type who wants to have the latest or greatest software on whatever device. I hope you understand what I am trying to say cause I don't!
So does anyone know how to do this then?
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For the record, I absolutely don't have the know how to install these things or root unlock etc etc. The only reason I was able to do it was due to a vid for very amateur persons. I am just a 44 yr old lady and just want to not be messing around with my phone. In fact I do not know if I even properly rooted or installed because as I said when I went to the vid from the great guy who helped me install codename, he also had a vid to unroot for mac with a sprint phone. it was such easy steps and my phone would not do it I got errors saying radio failed blah blah blah. Also don't know if I am even rooted or not but I am still on the codename rom and not back to 4.04. Is Cyangenmod what I am running? See what I mean? My issues is I am one who should not be messing around with my phone. And especially when everytime a new rom or update comes along, I have to have someone practically baby step me through it.
As for this codename android it is great. Am I rooted if I have it? See again, I literally know nothing about developing flashing rooting etc. It is just too much for my non technical brain, and as I said I really did not install this on my own and cannot even get back to stock on my own and to top it off I have only a macbook pro.
Now please do not be upset with me because I think the droid open platform is awesome compared to Apple's closed forum but being someone whom, as I said should not be messing with my phone in the 1st play since I do not understand nor do I know wth I am doing when I read instructions, I really miss my old iphone 4 8gb since I couldn't do nothing special with it.
Also I honeslty do not do too much on my phone but am the materialistic type who wants to have the latest or greatest software on whatever device. I hope you understand what I am trying to say cause I don't!
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I still did not have my original question answered. Does anyone here no how to get me back to 4.04 with my Sprint GNEX using a Mac and is willing to help/guide me through? Please? Thank you. I was surprised nobody replied back last night after my reply to Mike. Also I was directed by another forum that someone on this site would definitely be able to help and know how to go back to stock using a mac. I think I gave pretty good reasons why personally, I should not be messing with my phone.
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I still did not have my original question answered. Does anyone here no how to get me back to 4.04 with my Sprint GNEX using a Mac and is willing to help/guide me through? Please? Thank you. I was surprised nobody replied back last night after my reply to Mike. Also I was directed by another forum that someone on this site would definitely be able to help and know how to go back to stock using a mac. I think I gave pretty good reasons why personally, I should not be messing with my phone.
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first, read this. then read this.
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first, read this. then read this.
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I have read both those top two guides but as I said I have a mac and am not technically inclined and need baby steps but thanks anyway. heck I don't even know if I flashed codename android correctly or made a back up and if that is true then I am screwed anyway right?
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zandermomof3 said:
I have read both those top two guides but as I said I have a mac and am not technically inclined and need baby steps but thanks anyway. heck I don't even know if I flashed codename android correctly or made a back up and if that is true then I am screwed anyway right?
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whoa, wth do all those links mean? I already told you guys I do not understand this technical stuff and those links you provide with all those codes. Thank you, honestly, I could never follow those. I was very honest here when I said I cannot mess with my phone anymore. It is only more work for you guys.
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I have read both those top two guides but as I said I have a mac and am not technically inclined and need baby steps but thanks anyway. heck I don't even know if I flashed codename android correctly or made a back up and if that is true then I am screwed anyway right?
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whoa, wth do all those links mean? I already told you guys I do not understand this technical stuff and those links you provide with all those codes. Thank you, honestly, I could never follow those. I was very honest here when I said I cannot mess with my phone anymore. It is only more work for you guys.
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you are kidding right? This is a joke on me. I have no idea how to build a thing. If noone wants to actually help just say so. I also saw nothing about mac except in the top 1st link which I already tried and got radio failed error and my phone booted right back into 4.1.1 codename android.
i dont use a mac. i was trying to help anyway. next time, dont do anything to your device. the first link i gave you was for you to understand OUR technical language and terms, so that you can SEARCH for the info you need, and you can help us help you. you just want stock right? "gnex sprint back to stock" on google gave me " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25190768&postcount=1"? have you tried that?
if you cant flash a recovery like cwm or twrp with fastboot.. then you need to search on how to do it.
still one more way to it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620036
seems to me you just needed to understand OUR (yourself included) technical terms; this is xda-devs, not xda-help-noobs.
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Hey i am still noob to my samsung galaxy s3 SGH-i747, and i just rooted my phone with odin. I am currently on 4.0.4 ICS. So i was wondering what type of MUST HAVE stuff i should put onto my phone. Like how to change my kernel and stuff. I just want some simple stuff to give my phone a boost and stuff nothing major like flashing unofficial jelly bean or anything. It would be great of someone can kindly help me and giuld me thru stuff or give me links. I just want to really understand how this rooting and flashing stuff works. Thx! CHEERS~
Lhmm said:
Hey i am still noob to my samsung galaxy s3 SGH-i747, and i just rooted my phone with odin. I am currently on 4.0.4 ICS. So i was wondering what type of MUST HAVE stuff i should put onto my phone. Like how to change my kernel and stuff. I just want some simple stuff to give my phone a boost and stuff nothing major like flashing unofficial jelly bean or anything. It would be great of someone can kindly help me and giuld me thru stuff or give me links. I just want to really understand how this rooting and flashing stuff works. Thx! CHEERS~
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You should really just search around android developments thats really where the hacks and mods come in.. See for yourself!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1633
Lhmm said:
Hey i am still noob to my samsung galaxy s3 SGH-i747, and i just rooted my phone with odin. I am currently on 4.0.4 ICS. So i was wondering what type of MUST HAVE stuff i should put onto my phone. Like how to change my kernel and stuff. I just want some simple stuff to give my phone a boost and stuff nothing major like flashing unofficial jelly bean or anything. It would be great of someone can kindly help me and giuld me thru stuff or give me links. I just want to really understand how this rooting and flashing stuff works. Thx! CHEERS~
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Here's some tips...
- don't start flashing and modding until you have read....read...and re-read. If you follow instructions and cross reference, things will be fun. If you skip details and take foolish risks...you may end up getting a soft/hard brick or just getting jammed up. Take your time, read, absorb...and GO SLOW.
- don't just flash because you can....unless you can afford to throw away TIME and/or MONEY. My stock rom runs near perfect. Battery drain, speed, multitasking yadda yadda...is the best I have ever experienced and I DO COMPARE my stats with those on so called BETTER ROMS. Custom tweaked roms can be very rewarding...but I can see that a huge amount of users are having many uses such as Hot Reboots, unreliability, battery drains etc. Start off with things like replacing your Touch Wiz home screen with something like Go Launcher EX. But if your new here, you may not even realize why it IS or why it COULD be better.
- I always decide to test new apps and or mods...for one main reason. Because I am unsatisfied with a feature or operation. In Android world, there are always multiple solutions or options. If it's not here today, it will be next week or next month. Searching is the key. Good Luck!
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Here's some tips...
- don't start flashing and modding until you have read....read...and re-read. If you follow instructions and cross reference, things will be fun. If you skip details and take foolish risks...you may end up getting a soft/hard brick or just getting jammed up. Take your time, read, absorb...and GO SLOW.
- don't just flash because you can....unless you can afford to throw away TIME and/or MONEY. My stock rom runs near perfect. Battery drain, speed, multitasking yadda yadda...is the best I have ever experienced and I DO COMPARE my stats with those on so called BETTER ROMS. Custom tweaked roms can be very rewarding...but I can see that a huge amount of users are having many uses such as Hot Reboots, unreliability, battery drains etc. Start off with things like replacing your Touch Wiz home screen with something like Go Launcher EX. But if your new here, you may not even realize why it IS or why it COULD be better.
- I always decide to test new apps and or mods...for one main reason. Because I am unsatisfied with a feature or operation. In Android world, there are always multiple solutions or options. If it's not here today, it will be next week or next month. Searching is the key. Good Luck!
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And thank the people like this guy ^ who help you. Even if it is from 2011 and it just helped you today.
hey guys...i bought this phone less than a month now and its such an amazing phone.
usually when i buy a phone am rooting it and flash custom rom,..but this phone has really a lot feautures by just its factory system...battery is kinda bad tho..
so my question is should i root it?and add a custom rom?does it worth it more?
also i reas its kinda more hard to add rom amd root in this phone...so any tips?
hadec said:
hey guys...i bought this phone less than a month now and its such an amazing phone.
usually when i buy a phone am rooting it and flash custom rom,..but this phone has really a lot feautures by just its factory system...battery is kinda bad tho..
so my question is should i root it?and add a custom rom?does it worth it more?
also i reas its kinda more hard to add rom amd root in this phone...so any tips?
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Hi there.
You have not specified which model G3 you have but either way the best custom ROM 5.1.1 (based on CM 12.1) at the moment is BlissPop and you can have more info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-blisspop-v2-0-ls990-t3022685
It is a an extremely stable ROM, with lots of Official releases for all G3 models, it comes supplied with LOADS of options to customize your phone the way you want it and it has many dedicated people helping others for support, including myself.
As far as options to custom it surely has lots more than stock ROMS. It is much fluid and smooth. And this goes for any AOSP ROM compared to plain stock.
As far as battery goes surely depends on usage but you can get with a few extra tweaks around 5 hours SOT and up to 2 days with little use.
Your phone will not be worth more in the market shall you want to resell it but you can always go back to stock anytime.
Rooting and flashing custom ROMS is way better than stock and more fun. There are risks involved but if you are careful and take the time to understand and read and learn first BEFORE doing something wrong you will be fine.
Hope this helps you.
*I rooted my phone the same day I bought it 6 months ago and been having lots of fun with it. Just take your time to read things and don't jump too quick into things and you will be fine.
Hope this helps and if I did please press the thanks button.
Hey guys, I have a Sprint, SM-T807P (10.5" LTE/Snapdragon) version of the Tab S and I must say that I have been nothing short of impressed since the day I purchased it back in December. However, the one (major) downfall is that it seems 1 in 1000 Tab S owners actually have the 807P, which appears to be resulting in a virtual non-existent world of ROM's/custom kernels etc.
I was HOPING I am either over looking something, looking in the wrong location, or not aware of which other models may be compatible with mine.
I just Odin'd from DUH's KK ROM, to stock OE3 Lollipop, and was hoping to get re-rooted/CWR or TWRP installed and find myself a slick little ROM to install.
Is there any hope? lol Thanks in advance, ladies and gents!
Adding on to this. I bought the SM-T807P used (because it was a great deal) and I am only interested in running it through wifi. I dont need the LTE capability.
Somewhere I heard that some other Snapdragon roms will work, I'll just loose LTE functionality ... which is fine by me.
Does anyone have a list or can point me in the right direction for other roms that would work in wifi mode?
Or tell me which snapdragon roms will work?
It's already rooted and TWRP is installed. I'm just lacking in roms.
Thanks!
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Hey guys, I have a Sprint, SM-T807P (10.5" LTE/Snapdragon) version of the Tab S and I must say that I have been nothing short of impressed since the day I purchased it back in December. However, the one (major) downfall is that it seems 1 in 1000 Tab S owners actually have the 807P, which appears to be resulting in a virtual non-existent world of ROM's/custom kernels etc.
I was HOPING I am either over looking something, looking in the wrong location, or not aware of which other models may be compatible with mine.
I just Odin'd from DUH's KK ROM, to stock OE3 Lollipop, and was hoping to get re-rooted/CWR or TWRP installed and find myself a slick little ROM to install.
Is there any hope? lol Thanks in advance, ladies and gents!
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I'm sure @duh will gladly build an updated Rom for you guys if enough of you request it.
Maybe if you have enough knowledge you can build one for yourself and the other Sprint owners?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597220
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Adding on to this. I bought the SM-T807P used (because it was a great deal) and I am only interested in running it through wifi. I dont need the LTE capability.
Somewhere I heard that some other Snapdragon roms will work, I'll just loose LTE functionality ... which is fine by me.
Does anyone have a list or can point me in the right direction for other roms that would work in wifi mode?
Or tell me which snapdragon roms will work?
It's already rooted and TWRP is installed. I'm just lacking in roms.
Thanks!
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Did you ever receive any answers on this? I am in the same boat, I only have a gig or two of data on my Tab S, but have unlimited data on my Note 4, that's rooted+ROM'd, including the hotspot mod. So I could do without the LTE as well...
What exactly is it you are all expecting from a custom rom?
Practically all custom roms are simply debloated stock roms with maybe the odd extra thrown in.
There is nothing magic in a stock custom rom that you can't do yourself.
ashyx said:
What exactly is it you are all expecting from a custom rom?
Practically all custom roms are simply debloated stock roms with maybe the odd extra thrown in.
There is nothing magic in a stock custom rom that you can't do yourself.
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What I really want for my sweet little device is for someone to port over Cyanogenmod. Which is what I have been using for year.
cm is bad on tab s just prefer pac rom over it