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Mango coming in a week or two!!

Here's the source, finally a word from Microsoft:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx

question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
and do we get the firmware updates too if there is no need to restore back to nodo?

blanket said:
question....what abt those of us running RTM?
should we restore to nodo?
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If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.

Awesome news

Just saw the post on twitter, and I must say that I'm pretty exited!
I'm actually gonna wipe my phone before the update. Some may wonder why, and it's simple: My region thingy won't work in Norway before Mango, HAH!
The wait is almost over y'all!

Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.

DJRedLine said:
Mango in 1 or 2 weeks and battlefield 3 beta next week. Things are looking good.
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Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.

Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.

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Well look at this. THIS is exactly what they should be doing (albeit weeks ago, but still). Fantastic.
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Weeks ago the plan was still to release on September 15th (if you can trust the leaked stuff).

slimshady322 said:
Yeah and an iPhone 5 announcement in about 2 weeks. Great timing MS, the apple rumors and excitement are just starting to draw attention from everything else.
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Apples fanfare will make mango a near silent memory... poor timing microsoft, very poor indeed.
Also, verizon is lighting up quite a few around the same time... maybe the LTE iphone is possible after all .?

slimshady322 said:
If you are running the Beta it will definitly be impossible to upgrade from the Beta to the final, carrier and OEM approved version of Mango.
Most likely this will be the case for the leaked RTM as well but you never know. If you have to roll back to NoDo you will lose every Text and save games etc. created after you left NoDo, so downgrading to NoDo now will at least allow you to keep those after downgrading to NoDo.
However, if it turns out that you can upgrade from the leaked RTM to the final thing, then you won't lose anything and you might wanna take the risk and wait for the rollout to begin.
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i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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garymoncrieff
@John, I just asked on Twitter and upgrade instructions for those of us running beta will be released when they have them.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope

blanket said:
i updated to mango a little over 24 hours ago, so damage is little tbh
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Well than I would downgrade to NoDo using the backup if you can live without Mango for another week or two.
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this was in the comments section, so we may have hope
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Yeah I read that as well but the instructions might just be "downgrade to NoDo using your backup" etc. Time will tell and fortunately it's not that far away.

The only reason they made the announcement is because we now know when Apple will reveal the next iPhone which basically means no living sould will give a damn about Mango. Way to go Microsoft, good luck with that!

I'll believe when I see it. Until then, it's all rumor and speculation.

There should have been a disclaimer that "unless you're on the AT&T network, then you'll need to wait until December or January since Mango is complex and needs to be tested before release."

Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?

Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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Probably because the phone has a radio in it and it's different from carrier to carrier..

Merkie said:
Can anyone tell me why carriers have anything to do with updates at all? Carriers simply provide the infrastructure for a phone to work. What have they got to do with anything? It's something I have never understood. My ISP isn't testing my Windows 7 updates before I install them, why would they do so on my phone?
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It has to do with service compatibility. They make sure the phones perform properly with the various services the carriers provide. Plus, on top of that, they make sure the phone that bares their logo and name performs to their specific standards. Any malfunctioning phone can potentially give the carrier a bad rep.
I know from experience that a phone sold outright...unlocked and from the handset maker...can be buggy as hell. Whereas the exact same phone under the carriers moniker is a sweet and well functioning phone. This doesn't apply to Apple, though. Apple is in full control of any and all updates for the iPhone. But I bet the carriers who carry iPhones are allowed testing before updates are issued.

I'm glad this is more concrete than the fall. Lets see if ATT keeps to their words and updates my damn phone in a week or two.

Not even fall yet and an official announcement. Good job.

LolliPop for the Note 4 due soon...

Looks like Samsung may release LolliPop to our beloved Note 4 sooner rather than later.... but how long will the carriers take before turning it around for us?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/21...te-to-android-lollipop-for-the-galaxy-note-4/
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I will be shocked if we see it before April 2015 on AT&T. Samsung will have to massage it, then AT&T has to bloat it.
I hope I'm wrong.
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I'll probably have sold the Note4 before it gets lollipop.
In 6 months of owning the S5, it was never upgraded to 4.4.4

harlenm said:
I'll probably have sold the Note4 before it gets lollipop.
In 6 months of owning the S5, it was never upgraded to 4.4.4
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4.4.4 has only been out for 4 months, you think you'd have it already on a carrier specific phone, and samsung at that? and with 4.4.4 being a minor update?
By the time 4.4.4 released, Sammy was already well into working on 5.0 Why do the work for a minor update when you could just go straight for the big release?

TechSavvy2 said:
4.4.4 has only been out for 4 months, you think you'd have it already on a carrier specific phone, and samsung at that? and with 4.4.4 being a minor update?
By the time 4.4.4 released, Sammy was already well into working on 5.0 Why do the work for a minor update when you could just go straight for the big release?
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It was released by other carriers.

harlenm said:
It was released by other carriers.
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And? That means nothing. What is it you think you're missing out on with the 4.4.4 update? In answering that 99.99% of people are going to have to look up what the update even entitled.... Can't complain about not getting something that changes absolutely nothing in your phones functionality / aesthetics / UI

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It was released by other carriers.
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I was shocked when Verizon released it, they are usually really slow. ..
And to answer Techsavvy2's question, in Verizon at least, the GS5 4.4.4 update fixed many Bluetooth issues that were present in 4.4.2. But I agree with Tech's point in that new for new's sake is a little pointless.
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I hope we see it before the New Year, although I know the odds of that happening are almost nil. I also hope Samsung adopts the new aesthetic as much as possible, though their current version of Touchwiz is much better than previous versions.

Hope so. Not going to hold my breath waiting though.

Good news
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570797/20141027/lg-g3-galaxy-note-4-samsung-s5.htm
Warning: gnarly ads ahead, must wait for ad to display before scrolling down

Jennygirl said:
Good news
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570797/20141027/lg-g3-galaxy-note-4-samsung-s5.htm
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Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.

ekinnee said:
Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.
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Adblock Plus is amazing for google chrome, now if your on your phone idk what to tell you.
Thanks for this article!

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Terrible link. I can't read the article due to the constant scrolling as ads load and the full screen T-Mobile ad that I can't seem to dismiss.
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Yeah it's pretty bad. You have to wait to let the ad load before the page will let you scroll downwards. I experienced the same thing. Give it 10-15sec to load and hit the X in the top right, then you should be good
Sorry about that

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Yeah it's pretty bad. You have to wait to let the ad load before the page will let you scroll downwards. I experienced the same thing. Give it 10-15sec to load and hit the X in the top right, then you should be good
Sorry about that
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It's not you. It's the sites that seem to try and piss you off and have you not read the article because you have to dismiss so much **** to see the content.

ekinnee said:
It's not you. It's the sites that seem to try and piss you off and have you not read the article because you have to dismiss so much **** to see the content.
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Thanks and I hear you, the news sites seem to be the biggest offenders.
At least it is good news
Hopefully as stated earlier in the thread it holds true for AT&T. Maybe they will realize with such a big OS release that people will want it sooner than later.

I have a feeling AT&T is going to delay it for at least a month while it figures out what features they want to disable to add in their own bloated, pay to use version of it !

Why is it called lollipop.....suckers.....
So maybe now a nexus 6 is looking good?

Good.luxk getting one.
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For anyone else who loves the new design eLements, there is a great post here that allows you to install an L themed google keyboard for non-rooted devices. I must say, I've been using it for several days and I love it!! Totally appeasing my need for the new style.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53716545

Here is another preview of android L on the s5 with the updated touch wiz UI to incorporate material design:
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-gives-second-preview-of-lollipop-for-galaxy-s5-20141101/
Looking pretty nice.
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Oct 17 security update has new camera app too

There was a new security update for the Verizon version of the Moto E4 this week. It may have been released across the whole Moto E4 product line.
Besides securing the phone from the Blueborne Bluetooth weakness, the update also updated the camera app.
I was pleasantly surprised with both.
Does anyone know if the camera is performing any better in low light? The camera has been one of the few big weaknesses of this great cheap phone.

My Boost Mobile Moto E4 has received a whopping ZERO updates. It's still sitting on the May security patch... Hopefully we actually receive the update at some point.

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My Boost Mobile Moto E4 has received a whopping ZERO updates. It's still sitting on the May security patch... Hopefully we actually receive the update at some point.
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Yeah, me too. I was hoping for an update to come before I stary making stock rom zips but I think I might as well stop waiting. They Boost never gets updates very often.

amarc78 said:
Yeah, me too. I was hoping for an update to come before I stary making stock rom zips but I think I might as well stop waiting. They Boost never gets updates very often.
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Waiting and hoping... The story of Android.
The kicker, I have a LG Stylo 2, that was updated to the September security patch a couple of weeks ago, in fact LG has supported that phone consistently throughout the years. Sad to see Motorola, who builds basically a AOSP phone, unable to provide updates in any sort of consistent manner. I like Android, but that's way I switched over to iPhone... Timely Support.

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I like Android, but that's way I switched over to iPhone...
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Gasp! I'll pretend I didn't see that, lol.
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Gasp! I'll pretend I didn't see that, lol.
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I know right.
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the update also updated the camera app.
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How so? Did the camera UI change?
I didn't notice anything different.

ATTACK said:
Waiting and hoping... The story of Android.
The kicker, I have a LG Stylo 2, that was updated to the September security patch a couple of weeks ago, in fact LG has supported that phone consistently throughout the years. Sad to see Motorola, who builds basically a AOSP phone, unable to provide updates in any sort of consistent manner. I like Android, but that's way I switched over to iPhone... Timely Support.
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Spend the same money on an Android that you did on that other thing and bingo, timely updates (well just get a pixel if you can afford it)

madbat99 said:
Spend the same money on an Android that you did on that other thing and bingo, timely updates (well just get a pixel if you can afford it)
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There is a huge difference between the two. $800+ on a Pixel and only 2 years of support, spend $800+ on an iPhone and 4+ years of support.
I can't afford to spend large amounts of money every couple of years to play catch up.

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There is a huge difference between the two. $800+ on a Pixel and only 2 years of support, spend $800+ on an iPhone and 4+ years of support.
I can't afford to spend large amounts of money every couple of years to play catch up.
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Pixel 2 gets 3yrs. Then security patches for a couple more. And if you use custom ROMs, then well, my S3 is running 7.1.2 and may get Oreo.

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Pixel 2 gets 3yrs. Then security patches for a couple more.
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Still doesn't compare.
And if you use custom ROMs...
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That's fine for a $50 phone, but I won't spend $800+ on a phone and need to flash custom ROMs to stay up-to-date.

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Still doesn't compare.
That's fine for a $50 phone, but I won't spend $800+ on a phone and need to flash custom ROMs to stay up-to-date.
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Not here to debate Android vs iOS. If that's what you're looking for, ...
You'll find it somewhere. Just saying you were comparing this phone to big A's pride and joy. Not fair. Enough OT. Moving on.
P.S. I come TO flash ROMs, it's XDA.

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Not here to debate Android vs iOS. If that's what you're looking for, ...
You'll find it somewhere. Just saying you were comparing this phone to big A's pride and joy. Not fair. Enough OT. Moving on.
P.S. I come TO flash ROMs, it's XDA.
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You should go back and re-read your comments, as that's exactly what you were looking for. If you didn't want to have a debate, you shouldn't have commented on a post that wasn't directed at you.

Yeah, but you get very limited configuration options with that other device.

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Yeah, but you get very limited configuration options with that other device.
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Absolutely! IOS is quite bland, that's why I still buy Android devices to play with. But security and longevity is most important to me.

Security?? Everything that's on ANY Apple product they have a copy of on their servers.

CLETjB said:
Security?? Everything that's on ANY Apple product they have a copy of on their servers.
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LOL, ok...

Question Where is the March update?

First Monday of the month is typically when the updates hit, isn't it?

Also, it should be Feature Drop time. But no mention of it anywhere. Maybe just small update to come or there will be one next Monday?

Not until 1pm EST.

They confirmed it's delayed again

Delayed, plus the "feature drop" consists of some mediocre Snapchat stuff, an oversized battery widget and a couple stickers. The Pixel 6 turns into a disappointment. Non-existent feature drops, massive bugs, delayed updates... not a good track record.

Bipolar chat in the forums.. 13 Dev 2 comes out Thursday. I would think it will be out by the 15th or so latest.

Google really is starting to disappoint me with this phone. Bugs in connectivity, late updates you name it ... Expensive phone too.
Put me off Google I must admit I am starting to regret buying this phone.

numbnutsuk said:
Google really is starting to disappoint me with this phone. Bugs in connectivity, late updates you name it ... Expensive phone too.
Put me off Google I must admit I am starting to regret buying this phone.
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I'm starting to regret it too, but we don't have many other options. Chinese phones that I refuse to buy, or Samsung phones that throttle apps. Right now they are all bad.

Hehe. It's funny.
U can see similar post in every phone topic.
Before use OnePlus 7pro and and was exactly same
When updating not on time.

There's no other phone worth considering. OnePlus is dead and Samsung has too much bloat and baggage.
I'm sticking with Pixels because at least I know my monthly updates will improve firmware, not just bump security patch level. And they will come every month. I don't worry too much about the delays, but it's a bad look.

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There's no other phone worth considering. OnePlus is dead and Samsung has too much bloat and baggage.
I'm sticking with Pixels because at least I know my monthly updates will improve firmware, not just bump security patch level. And they will come every month. I don't worry too much about the delays, but it's a bad look.
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I'm agreed with u.
But must be a reason for delay

Every day another reason to regret getting a 6 Pro. WTF was I thinking?

The update rolls out at different times per region doesn't it? That's something to take into account. There could be technical issues of some sort that's causing any sort of delay too.
Just have some patience yall it'll come soon enough

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The update rolls out at different times per region doesn't it? That's something to take into account. There could be technical issues of some sort that's causing any sort of delay too.
Just have some patience yall it'll come soon enough
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The pixel 6 Update is officially delayed by Google. They say later this month. Meaning it has nothing to do with a technical delay for a couple hours.

Morgrain said:
The pixel 6 Update is officially delayed by Google. They say later this month. Meaning it has nothing to do with a technical delay for a couple hours.
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Apparently, Google support says it will be released on March 21st.

Gordietm said:
Apparently, Google support says it will be released on March 21st.
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And while I probably shouldn't I'm gonna cause know what I heard... It's gonna be on April 1st. Source: Gazoo
Thanks and please have a great day everyone...

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Apparently, Google support says it will be released on March 21st.
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This is turning into a running joke.

Just one answer for "Where is the March update?" - in March
Sorry I had to

I would rather have a late update that's secure and stable than a bug fest with open back doors.
However looks pretty poor.

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Bipolar chat in the forums.. 13 Dev 2 comes out Thursday. I would think it will be out by the 15th or so latest.
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If 12L is delayed that means 13DP2 will not be available for p6 series as well.

Question Any word on the ETA for the March OTA update?

Hi gang, long time, no chat! Amazing what happens when Google finally gets their act together with the P6Ps, isn't it?
The last I heard @ 9to5google.com is that it was late. Nothing beyond that, though. Thank you!

Well, Pixel updates were always released on Mondays. So maybe next Monday? Or even a Monday after that.

March Update postponed indefinitely

Google are getting so slow for updates and they barely have any phones lol, whilst Samsung have pushed out 2 massive updates by the time Google has pushed out 1, I also find it strange that pixels software are the bare minimum and have worse battery life

I don't think anyone really knows when it will be released. Interestingly, the A14 DP2 build that was released yesterday had the March security update in it.

kevinireland11 said:
Google are getting so slow for updates and they barely have any phones lol, whilst Samsung have pushed out 2 massive updates by the time Google has pushed out 1, I also find it strange that pixels software are the bare minimum and have worse battery life
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HMMMM....
I count 15 updates and one major version upgrade since the initial release of the P6P since October 2021

I've found that Google's updates have drastically improved battery life for my P6P, but it still doesn't compare to the battery life I used to have with my LG several years ago. And I think we all can remember how bad LG was, with releasing updates. I just thought that perhaps I missed some insider news for the delay, and you are so wonderful with these phones.

biTToe said:
HMMMM....
I count 15 updates and one major version upgrade since the initial release of the P6P since October 2021
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You have completly missed out on what I've just mentioned on that last post lmao, it's great that you can count but unfortunately you can't read well, ("" by the time "")
EDIT - to dumb it for you, I'm speaking about this year only, if you need it dumbed down further then give me a shout, thanks.

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You have completly missed out on what I've just mentioned on that last post lmao, it's great that you can count but unfortunately you can't read well, ("" by the time "")
EDIT - to dumb it for you, I'm speaking about this year only, if you need it dumbed down further then give me a shout, thanks.
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You remind me of my ex - she thought that I had a crystal ball and could read her mind. I can give you her coordinates - the two of you would get along just great

All pixel phones have march update ota by now, just not pixel 6
Google really starts to look like fools, when samsung starts to be faster with android updates than google, and delays

Would you rather a fast update or one riddled with phone killing bugs?it's not like they sat down one day and said "i know let's make users mad and not release an update".

Google are doing fine with slow updates with lots of bugs, just look at the pixel 6 and 7 update history, software/hardware bugs are all over the place.

7 Pro update went online today. I guess ours will come soon then.

its out for all but not for P6/P6P

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its out for all but not for P6/P6P
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Maybe that could be due to them refining the new Night Sight algorithm used in the smartphone

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Maybe that could be due to them refining the new Night Sight algorithm used in the smartphone
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Doesn't matter. The rest is removed as well

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Doesn't matter. The rest is removed as well
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What are you talking about?

My bad, if I switch the language of the webpage to German, the march updates are gone

Google said the March P6 fam update has been delayed til the 20th because they're adding 5G connectivity and having issues with India's configuration so to speak.

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Google said the March P6 fam update has been delayed til the 20th because they're adding 5G connectivity and having issues with India's configuration so to speak.
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We need to wait till March 20 for Google adding a code line to allow an Indian Carrier support 5G?
Google being google...