[GUIDE] How to make photos look better without Huawei bad Post-processing - Huawei P20 Guides, News, & Discussion

As we all know Huawei postprocessing sucks(oversharpening, overexposure, oversaturation, over-everything), that's why I'm making this Guide.
We will be using Huawei stock camera app to shoot RAW photos so if you know how to do that just skip to step 4.
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1. Open Camera, click on PRO.
2. Now open settings, click on resolution
3. Here enable RAW format
Now we are ready to start taking pictures.
4. Download Lightroom from Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adobe.lrmobile&hl=cs)
5. Import photos that you want, click on them and then save them (3 dots in the right corner)
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That's it, pretty easy and all photos look 100 times better than with just auto mode with postprocessing.
Keep in mind that you need to shoot only using PRO mode to make this work.
Here are some examples of how postprocessing sucks compared to saved photo through lightroom(photos are zoomed in so you can see the details)
RAW - how it looks like straight from PRO mode
JPEG - how it looks like through AUTO mode

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Changelog for JB Firmware
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[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V1 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) Modified Camera.msm8970 for the Bettery Video Quality.
2) The Camera Now Shoots up faster than compared to Stock.
3) Increased the Image quality to 99 from 95 in Camera.msm8970
4) Increase The Video Bitrate of the Videos.
[B][I]1080P[/I][/B] Videos are now shot @ [B][I]30MB/s[/I][/B].
[B][I]720P[/I][/B] Videos are now shot @ [B][I]20MB/s[/I][/B].
5) Better Focusing as changes made in camera.msm8970.
[COLOR="red"][B][I]V2 Details [/I][/B][/COLOR]
- Decreased the Max ISO to 1200 from 1600 (The More the ISO the more the noise in the pic)
- Decreased the ISO levels as such-
Note: It may show the Values of the ISO n settings as Such
[B][I]ISO in Settings - ISO In Actual
1600 - 1200
800 - 650
400 - 310
200 - 200
100 - 100
Auto - Max in Auto (1200)[/I][/B]
- Increased the sharpness from 90 to 95.
- Increased the JPEG Preview Quality to 99 from 90.
- Adjusted ISO to[B][I] Max 200[/I][/B] For face Detection.
- Increased the[B][I] Minimum FPS[/I][/B] of the [B]1080P[/B] Video to [B][I]25[/I][/B] & Max to [B][I]40[/I][/B] FPS.
- Increased the [B]Minimum FPS[/B] for[B][I]60[/I][/B] FPS Video to[B][I] 25[/I][/B].
- Many More Adjustments.
[COLOR="Red"][B][I]V2.5 Details [/I][/B][/COLOR]
[B][I]AntiBanding[/I][/B] default set to]50Hz
- [B][I]Exposure Compensation[/I][/B] Decresed to [B][I]-1[/I][/B]
- [B][I]Exposure Compensation[/I][/B] Step Decresed to 0.1 from 1.24
- Focus Range adjusted.
- [STRIKE]Tried to Fix Video FPS at night to atleast 25FPS.[/STRIKE] [COLOR="Red"][B][U]Failed[/U][/B][/COLOR]
- [B][I]Picture Sharpness[/I][/B] Decreased to 85
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V2.5.1 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
- Set FPS at 30 to 60 FPS Range.
- Set [B][I]Exif [/I][/B]Info details.
- Changed the [B][I]YUV420[/I][/B] formats to [B][I]YUV422[/I][/B]. [U]YUV420 are old formats[/U].
- Decreased[B] Maximum Exposure[/B] compensation to 15.
- Increased [B]Minimum Exposure[/B] compensation to -15.
- Enhanced [B][I]Smooth zoom.[/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V2.5.2 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
- Turned [B][I]Edge Enhancement[/I][/B] On.
- Turned [B][I]Edge Enhance[/I][/B] off. (Makes the night pics blurry)
- Changed Pic Decoder quality to 99.
- Changed Pic Encoder quality to 99.
- Decreased the Bit rates of the Videos as Follows:
[B][I][email protected] FPS : 20MB/s
[email protected] FPS : 15MB/s
[email protected] FPS : 10MB/s[/I][/B]
- Reason, No use of Increasing Bit Rate to Max because of -
1) Increased Size of the Video.
2) Cache Will Fill up so fast that Video wont be able to write on the Memory.
- Fixed the Low Light Video Lag.
- Changed the [B][I]Default FPS[/I][/B] to [B][I]30[/I][/B].
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V2.5.3 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) Video Preview rate set to 30.
2) Video Sharpness increased to 22 from 20.
3) JPEG quality improvements for grains in low light, though should be very marginal.
4) I really forgot, it was long back though! :P (SORRY)
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V2.5.4 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) Set [B][I]JPEG Quality to 100%[/I][/B]. (Maximum Available Value)
2) Set [B][I]JPEG Compression to NIL[/I][/B] (Zero Compression, should come out almost RAW [Though processed] ).
3) Set Medium Quality JPEG's to 100.
4) Set Low Quality JPEG's to 100.
5) Set [B][I]Picture sharpness[/I][/B] back to 97 from xx in the previous MODs.
6) Set Back [B][I]Noise Reduction[/I][/B] to [B][I]ON[/I][/B].
7) Set The [B][I][U]Secondary MIC OFF[/U][/I][/B] (Noise Cancellation MIC) for less watery sounds.
8) Set Sound Bitrate to [B][I]256Kbit/s[/I][/B] like Nokia Lumia 1020.
9) Self enhancing Skin Tone Colors If you notice.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V2.5.5 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) [B][I]Sharpness[/I][/B] bumped to [B][I]99[/I][/B].
2)[B][I] 60 FPS[/I][/B] Videos should be working now.
3) Low light videos should have a [B][I]stable 30 FPS[/I][/B] constant.
4) ISO tables used by LG were mine!
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V2.5.6 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) Max FPS range is 60.
2) Min FPS range is 30 (Any Light)
3) Sharpness of the pics are 99 (again)
4) Bitrate of 1080P 25Mbps and 720P is 20Mbps.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V_2.5.6 EXPT_2 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) FPS range is max is 90.
2) 1080P & 720P Videos has HFR options.
3) JPEG Compression s "0" or AKA "RAW"
4) Fixed ISO 400.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V_2.5.6 EXPT_3 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) Back Camera Records 720P Videos @ 90 FPS. [Broken- Max FPS limited by LG is 60]
2) Front camera records 1080P Videos @ 60 FPS.
3) Image quality increased more than EXPT_2.
4) Sharper pictures in both cameras.
5) HFR Bitrate is now 25Mbps.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"]V_2.5.6 EXPT_4 Details[/COLOR][/I][/B]
1) Fixed Back Camera 720P Video. Records at 60 FPS.
2) JPEG quality increased to Max for this Device. [Cant go Higher]
3) HFR FPS tried to stable at 30 FPS at low light
4) Sharpness Increased for Front camera.
5) The Pictures taken can be as big as 11MB's. Don't complain! :D
Changelog for KK Firmware
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[B][I]Version 3.1 For KK Stock ROMs[/I][/B]
1) Now 4K recording should work.
2) Now 120 FPS Videos should also work.
3) JPEG Compression is zero.
[B][I]Version 3.2 For KK Stock ROMs -[/I][/B]
1) 4K video Recording.
2) 120fps Slow-Mo Video Recording.
3) Magic Focus Mode from LG G Pro 2. [B][I][COLOR="Red"][NEW][/COLOR][/I][/B] Not Completely working but NO FC's or bootloops as well.
[B][I]Version 3.3 For KK Stock ROMs -[/I][/B]
1) 4K and 120 FPS Recording.
2) [B][I][COLOR="Red"]New[/COLOR][/I][/B] Chroma Flash Technology. Just as the sensor, this flash is also the same as of the G pro 2 and LG G2 has the chroma flash tech which can enabled. Read more [URL="http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_pro_2-review-1056p8.php"]Here[/URL].
3) [B][I][COLOR="Red"]New[/COLOR][/I][/B] Low light Viewfinder framerate is now stable at a particular framerate and almost lag-less. smoother Viewfinder = less shaky images & Faster capture.
4) Low light Video framerate is stable at 30 fps.
5) Better Image metering as compared to the V3.2 apk which produces much over exposed shots.
6) [B][I][COLOR="Red"]New[/COLOR][/I][/B] Intelligent Auto mode gets much more attention this time. It has much faster shutter speeds as compared to the V3.2.
7) [B][I][COLOR="Red"]New[/COLOR][/I][/B] ClearShot should have much better focusing while the pic is taken.
8) Low light Photo sharpness has been increased as any of you had complaints about it.
9) Camera switching and start up should be much much faster as well if compared to V3.2.
10) The apk is from the G pro 2 just like the V3.2 . So the apk [ONLY] can be used with the Ported G Pro 2 ROM of [user=4947573]@OptimusRs[/user].
[B][I]Version 3.4 For KK Stock ROMs[/I][/B]
1) Removed Magic Focus. It really annoyed me a lot.
2) Fixed the darkness Issue.
3) Fixed Low Light Framerate.
4) New Apk based on the Leaked firmware of a newer LG Device.
5) Faster HDR Processing.
6) Panorama Size at 10Mp each shot.
7) New Separate HFR Mode added for Front Camera.
8) Fixed lag for front camera. Better Quality.
NEW APK For 3.3 & Above
What it does?
1) It lets you backup of main files like the Original LGCameraApp.apk and .odex, media_profiles.xml and few other things.
2) It lets you restore your backup app in case you don't want it.
3) It lets you Install the mod as a system app on just a Tap.
How is it helpful?
1) No chmodding issues.
2) Easy to use.
3) Easy to restore stock.
Changelog For CM | OMNI | AOSP based
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[B][I][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Beta Release E90[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][U][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Things working:[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B]
1) Camera
2) Video Camera - 1080P Bitrate set at 20MB/s constant for now.
3) HDR
4) Cheeze shutter.
5) Pics while Video
6) ISO Modes
7) Video Brightness - SOLVED!
8) And everything else.
9) Video recording audio is awesome in this no disturbance for me!
[B][I]Not working:[/I][/B]
1) Time Machine shot.
2) Front Facing camera - For Pics only it FC's.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Stable Release F10[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][U][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Things working:[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B]
1) Camera.
2) Video Camera -
1080P Bitrate set at 24MB/s constant for now.
720P Bitrate is 20Mb/s constant.
3) [B][I]Fixed the Camera Viewfinder alignment and size.[/I][/B]
4) [B][I]Fixed the Video Viewfinder alignment and size.[/I][/B]
3) HDR
4) Cheeze shutter.
5) Pics while Video
6) ISO Modes
7) Video Brightness adjustment.
9) [B][I]Video recording Audiobitrate to stable 200Kbps and 2 channel dual audio with voice cancellation.[/I][/B]
10) [B][I]Added Continuous Auto Focus for the Camera.[/I][/B]
11) Shutter Sound Off Option.
12) Widescreen Screen Preview when taking [B][I]HD or FHD[/I][/B] Videos.
13) Widescreen Screen Preview when taking[B][I] 8MP or 5MP[/I][/B] Photos.
14) [B][I]Added 13Mp resolution now.[/I][/B]
[B][I]Not working:[/I][/B]
1) Time Machine shot.
2) Front Facing camera - For Pics only it FC's.
3) Continuous shots.
4) Face Tracking.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Stable Release F32[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR="Purple"]What's new?[/COLOR] [/I][/B]
1) Totally New Camera UI.
2) Fixed the Layout colors. Now visible just fine.
3) Now Auto Focus has been Improved a lot.
4) Increased ISO for default. ISO Can go upto 9452 ! (Yes This camera is that good)
[B][I]What's not new?[/I][/B]
1) Everything else from the previous stable version.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Stable Release F40[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR="Purple"]What's new?[/COLOR] [/I][/B]
1) Added 12M Photo option.
2) Added Wide 10M Photo Option.
3) Slight Adjustment for Luminescence Value.
4) Retweaked for better stability.
5) Camera Opens in Landscape mode instead of Portrait.
[B][I]What's not new?[/I][/B]
Everything good and bugs from the Previous Versions.
[B][I][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Stable Release F50[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR="Purple"]What's new?[/COLOR] [/I][/B]
1) Pictures
2) Videos
3) HDR
4) Continuous Shot
5) Panorama Shot
6) Face Detection Mode
7) Continuous Focus mode
8) Front Facing camera
9) Beauty Shot
10) Cheese Shutter with 5 New Voice Capture tones
11) Smart Shutter Mode
12) Pictures while Videos.
13) Fixed Focus Issue
14) Fixed Orientation Issue
15) And Everything else.
[B][I]What's Not New? [/I][/B]
1) Time Capture Doesn't work.
[B][I][U]Note[/U]:[/I][/B]
For Better auto Focus adjustment, please make sure when you open the camera you toggle between Auto-Focus and Continuous shots twice. This makes the Autofocus even better. And Use the Continuous focus option for zero lag pictures.
And Use camera mode as "SMART SHUTTER"
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Download for JB
Code:
[B][I][COLOR="Black"] [SIZE="3"]Stock Based[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][COLOR="Red"]Mod edit - links removed[/COLOR][/B]
Installation of JB
Code:
[B][I]Stock Based[/I][/B]
1) Download Root Explorer app from Play Store.
2) Navigate to System/app.
3) Look for these two files
- CameraApp.apk
- CameraApp.odex.
4) Rename them both to
- CameraApp.bak
- CameraApp.doex.
4) Download the MOD.
5) Place it on your sd card and flash it though recovery.
6) Dont complain if you fail to follow these steps.
Installation of KK
Code:
[B][I]Stock Based[/I][/B]
1) Download Root Explorer app from Play Store.
2) Navigate to System/Priv-app.
3) Look for these two files
- CameraApp.apk
- CameraApp.odex.
4) Rename them both to
- CameraApp.bak
- CameraApp.doex.
OR
move them both to sd card of the phone.
- CameraApp.apk
- CameraApp.odex.
4) Download the MOD.
5) Extract it through winrar.
6) Place Lgcamera.apk in System/Priv-app and set permissions rw-r--r--.
7) Navigate to system/etc and find media_profiles.xml and make a backup of it on your sd card.
8) Place the media_profiles.xml in system/etc and overwrite the existing one and set permissions rw-r--r--.
9) Reboot.
Installation of KK Version 3.3 & Above
Code:
1) Download and run the apk you have downloaded.
Installation of CM Based
Code:
1) Download the MOD.
2) Flash it through Recovery.
[B][I][SIZE="3"]Installation of F50[/SIZE][/I][/B]
1) Install as normal app
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Credits :
@decomfg For Technical Help
@garyd9 For the kitkat files & the things he deserves thanks for
@bender_007 For the awesome auto Installer and the help & testing he does. Awesome man! Cheers!
@OptimusRs My younger brother who always helps me with the files.
@SREEPRAJAY My Elder Brother who always supports me to go in the right path.
Please tell me if I forgot you.
@xdabbeb For the Idea of faster shutter speed.
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Sounds nice. I assume root is needed. I'll have to root soon.
Does this work with t-mobile?
Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk 2
Can I flash it through cwm recovery in D802 device?
Interested seeing low light video
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moteb said:
Can I flash it through cwm recovery in D802 device?
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Yes u can. I did it thru cwm on d802.
thanks man, i will give it a try.
edit:
photo quality seems to be a little bit better compared to the stock cam. camera response / auto fokus also seems to be improved.
stock:
modded cam:
Just finished rooting and flashing custom recovery. Will give this a try soon.
Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk 2
Thanks , flash it a minit.... You want too share your cirkel battery icon ???
Can I flash it on my d803?
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I hope so..
Should work if you have a 13MP OIS cam..
Said this coz Optimus G had different cams for various models..
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
Why does everyone leave out the T-Mobile variant?
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dw9906 said:
Why does everyone leave out the T-Mobile variant?
Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk 4
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It will work,,. I will update the OP..
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awesome! thanks man!!
Does this just affect the stock camera app? I am using focal, would I see any benefit to this?
just curious, what do you mean by less juddering at night? like, a higher framerate when in low light situations when taking pics? bc mine's just as slow as before.
or did you mean videos? it's still shooting lower than 30fps..i'm getting around 17 or so. i wish there was a way to force FPS in all lighting
question, is there a way for you to up the quality of pics taken during recording? they're only like 500kb and i remember reading like 1mp somewhere. they're really bad.
also, how about panorama mode? is there a way for you to up that quality? panorama is really low stock as well.
jayochs said:
just curious, what do you mean by less juddering at night? like, a higher framerate when in low light situations when taking pics? bc mine's just as slow as before.
or did you mean videos? it's still shooting lower than 30fps..i'm getting around 17 or so. i wish there was a way to force FPS in all lighting
question, is there a way for you to up the quality of pics taken during recording? they're only like 500kb and i remember reading like 1mp somewhere. they're really bad.
also, how about panorama mode? is there a way for you to up that quality? panorama is really low stock as well.
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Thanks for the Info! Now I have something which is at point and will help me do the things needed. I Will try my best!
The Problem is its compiled with Unstable toolchain!
Jishnu Sur said:
Thanks for the Info! Now I have something which is at point and will help me do the things needed. I Will try my best!
The Problem is its compiled with Unstable toolchain!
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your work is greatly appreciated..i was waitin for this mod! just did another video, when i had flash on, i got about 19fps...so it's getting better. stock, i used to get like 14fps.
last week i tried to decompile the apk and look at it, then i remembered i'm not a dev and i have no idea wtf i'm looking at.....haahaha
Jishnu Sur said:
Thanks for the Info! Now I have something which is at point and will help me do the things needed. I Will try my best!
The Problem is its compiled with Unstable toolchain!
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Which toolchain are you using?
@op - does the flashable zip file intentionally place camera.msm8974.so in the /system/hw folder (as structured in the zip file)? i ask because on on my att G2, the file camera.msm8974.so is located in the /system/lib/hw folder. (i typically create backups of files replaced by custom mods). thanks!
Test ISO image
This is a test image one could print out to compare before and after changes.
Without having a setup that we can really 'pixel peep' accurately it's hard to determine if what we are doing is improving or worth improving.
Anyway, hopefully we can set up some tests to compare the different improvements and get this camera performing decently. My feeling at this point is that LG needed to rush the G2 to market to beat the iPhone 5s/5c and Note 3 so there are some rough spots on an otherwise nice gem of a camera. Until LG devotes some time to improving the issues let's keep up the good work!

G4 DNG/RAW grainy and bad quality

Hey,
I have a question to the G4 RAW Mode.
Of course I love the manual mode of the G4 with all the settings. But if I take a phote in dng, the jpeg has a higher quality.
My problems:
1. If I turn down the ISO to get a pic without any grainyness, the ISO is still grainy.
2. If I zoom, I get a cropped jpeg, but the dng is un-zoomed.
3. There is a pattern in the jpeg's, if I also take a photo in dng.
I use stock rom with stock cam.
Thank you
hasche90 said:
Hey,
I have a question to the G4 RAW Mode.
Of course I love the manual mode of the G4 with all the settings. But if I take a phote in dng, the jpeg has a higher quality.
My problems:
1. If I turn down the ISO to get a pic without any grainyness, the ISO is still grainy.
2. If I zoom, I get a cropped jpeg, but the dng is un-zoomed.
3. There is a pattern in the jpeg's, if I also take a photo in dng.
I use stock rom with stock cam.
Thank you
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That's because jpeg has noise reduction while raw doesn't, you would have to develop it. also high iso causes this. anything above 600 looks grainy. try to get a stable position and lower the shutter speed to a second or so
For RAW/DNG images you need to create a customised "Develop settings" and apply those on import, this is how I do it in Adobe Lightroom. The photo management software apply camera/lens profiles for their RAW processors, but I don't think the smartphone cameras are included. At least this is not the case for OnePlus One and LG G4 as far as I can tell.
So, the develop setting I use for LG G4 (and One Plus One as I have both) is pretty simple: in Noise Reduction I increase the luminance to 50 (in Lightroom). This smooths the graining without sacrificing too much the details. Some DNG photos need further tweaks to get the desired result though.
Raw.This format no use any NR effect.Just try Photoshop or other pictures editing program.
Raw like fresh cutted meat.Need post process!

RAW Support and long exposures

Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
DadOudidOuda said:
No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
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Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
A331709 said:
Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
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I'm not surprised if there's no differences between the 2 but I thought you could make 30 seconds exposure shots with Camera FV-5 (which would surely make a difference with the stock camera)
About RAW support, from what I've read the Z Play doesn't support it unfortunately. You'd need the TrueZoom mod to get RAW support, which is quite an expensive buy.
A331709 said:
Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
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Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
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Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
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IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
If im not mistaken, Camera2API supports raw format. Whenever Lenovo finally enables it (Nougat?) we should be able to export to raw format.
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IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
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I found that long exposure shots have a very limited use :-\
True it's not something you'd use everyday, but it would've been good to have this work as it should. The only other thing I can think of is that they've nerfed it on purpose so the camera mod sells.
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Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
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Raw does work if you enable camera 2 api or modify hal lib it works even in camera 1 mode
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43MP RAW photo and 32MP front pic.

Hey guys, I found a way to take a 48MP photo with raw. It's very simple.
1- get the app on play store named " Footej Camera"
2- open the app
3- slide to left and go to "RAW" option
4- if you wanna know the resolution just go on the gear top left, go to photo, and resolution. The back camera gets 48MP and the front one gets 32MP.
It's a very nice app, and if you are like me and like to take long exposure photos in the app the iso option it's higher than on official camera app.
Cool! How about Open Camera? I think that can do more tricks ...
How about the quality of the pictures .. cause i'm using GCam and works perfecly fine
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Hey guys, I found a way to take a 48MP photo with raw. It's very simple.
1- get the app on play store named " Footej Camera"
2- open the app
3- slide to left and go to "RAW" option
4- if you wanna know the resolution just go on the gear top left, go to photo, and resolution. The back camera gets 48MP and the front one gets 32MP.
It's a very nice app, and if you are like me and like to take long exposure photos in the app the iso option it's higher than on official camera app.
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Could you share some DNG raw photos in 48mpx ?
Thanks
helder.vice said:
Could you share some DNG raw photos in 48mpx ?
Thanks
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Now I'm see it, when u take a raw photo the max "MP" u can get it's 12MP ??
Any way, here's the raw photos in a zip archive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-WBG---ou4C04agb88Fu86DO8DVHLneo
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Any way, here's the raw photos in a zip archive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-WBG---ou4C04agb88Fu86DO8DVHLneo
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Thank you for the raw photos.
From analysis, the DNG files have a lot of color noise and purple fringing on the shadows.
These are not good at all for a 48mpx sensor with pixel binning.
Would you be able to use a Gcam apk and take a few DNG raw photos as well ?
I know that gcam does some processing with the raw files.
Obrigado

Question alternative "real" camaras software with full access?

So I basically read everywhere the phones camera app is even worse than what you get on other phones (hardware is still great though).
What alternatives are there, and do they have full hardware access and raw export for all cameras without compromising on image quality?
So what a basic photo app should do (I can't believe that I have to ask for something basic like this) is that I want to set a shutter speed it supposed to use. Camera app should do the exposure and adjust ISO and aperture (if there).
Then 2nd important thing (usually first but hey, google lowered the low standards even more), settings should be saved, if I get my cam out of the pocket again I don't want to dial in the settings again. Just remember it like every real camera does.
3rd is a dreamland level of feature (also normal on real cameras): setting a base shutter speed to freeze action have the camera compensate with ISO and aperture till it reaches the upper limit and raising the shutter speed at the lower limit so I don't get overexposure but always have a fast shutterspeed to freeze movement.
So are there apps out there that do this and do they get full sensor access?
It's actually more complicated than just "hardware is great, software is crap". A lot of the technology that makes Pixels one of the best point and shoot cameras on smartphones, is actually in the google camera app (utilizing the Camera2 API). Google has recently developed a new CameraX API. Its first release was about a week ago and has a long way to go.
Unfortunately, Google has removed some of the manual settings over the years, and has moved towards intelligent processing techniques that are done automatically. For example, manual HDR modes have been removed in favor of the auto-processing used in the app.
Unless somebody develops a new app, utilizing the CameraX library extensions, you won't be finding these things you've asked for. Pixels don't have a manual mode like other phones (such has Samsung for example).
There is a new camera app that the devs behind GraphenOS have created, using the new CameraX API. Someone posted information about it recently. There's also a modified gcam mod specifically for Pixels, made by team MWP. It has some features such ISO, focus and exposure sliders (the non-beta version has more features so download that version).
The official google camera app shoots in RAW format. OpenCamera (by Mark Harman) is also a favorite for many enthusiasts. Last week a user forked it to add a few options for the Pixel 6.
So you have 3 or 4 options listed above, plus the different camera apps on the play store (such as Procam X and Manual Camera). But over the years, it seems that the official google camera app, results in the best quality (but we can now include the MWP gcam mod since it has been modified with most recent google camera versions and works with the Pixel 6/6Pro without any bugs).
Alekos said:
Unfortunately, Google has removed some of the manual settings over the years, and has moved towards intelligent processing techniques that are done automatically. For example, manual HDR modes have been removed in favor of the auto-processing used in the app.
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An alarming trend, smartphone camera software has never been the most useful and not its getting even worse.
No amount of AI magic is going to recognize that a now still standing person is going to do something fast the next second that I would like to capture with a shutter speed of 1/1000. Also not going to anticipate the cat jumping and me wanting to get that unblurred.
I don't care about AI processing, photo editing has nothing to do with a camera software in my opinion and should happen after the shot was taken and not during. I'm old, I do my own edits. But I would like to have the full quality sensor readout in a DNG file and no compromises on image quality.
nurps said:
An alarming trend, smartphone cameras have never been the most useful and not its getting even worse.
No amount of AI magic is going to recognize that a now still standing person is going to do something fast the next second that I would like to capture with a shutter speed of 1/1000. Also not going to anticipate the cat jumping and me wanting to get that unblurred.
I don't care about AI processing, photo editing has nothing to do with a camera software in my opinion and should happen after the shot was taken and not during. I'm old, I do my own edits. But I would like to have the full quality sensor readout in a DNG file and no compromises on image quality.
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Similar as you, I am 65 and shooting with Canon DSLR for longer than I can remember, I always want to control everything myself. I am now shooting with an app called "ProShot" on the P6P which you can get for I think $5 from the Play Store. It almost worked like a DSLR or mirrorless. I don't care about the AI, I shoot in raw and edit all the photos in Photoshop after moving them to my computer. I think you can download it as a free trial before you made a decision.
Have you noticed any quality differences between stock and ProShot raws on any of the 3 cameras? I remember ProShot from my S8 days.
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Have you noticed any quality differences between stock and ProShot raws on any of the 3 cameras? I remember ProShot from my S8 days.
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For raws, I don't see any difference. Jpeg is different story due to Google's AI. Anyway, download it and give a try and see the results if they are your liking.
I'm still on the level what phone to buy for best camera experience, so I don't own it yet.
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I'm still on the level what phone to buy for best camera experience, so I don't own it yet.
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I see! If just based camera hardware, you have a lot choices, Xiaomi, Samsung perhaps better than the pixel. I don't shoot with phone that much. I came from Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra to the P6P, it is because I need to root the phone to enable I can use call recorder.
IP68 is must, Samsung S22U raws look really awful though, not much detail there, oversharpeing artifacts at raw level.
Wedding photographer here and personally i find it a breath of fresh air to just point and shoot and get something without resorting to raw and messing about in an editing package, swings and roundabouts i guess.
On a side note the aperture of the lenses on a smartphone are that wide you tend to get really fast shutter speeds anyway even with pretty mediocre light, i took a photo the other day, it was a bright'ish day with about 50% cloud and the shutter speed was 1/5814 at f2.2 using the wide angle lens.
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Have you noticed any quality differences between stock and ProShot raws on any of the 3 cameras? I remember ProShot from my S8 days.
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I use exclusively ProShot when shooting RAW. RAW files from the Google camera app miss information. That's why the size of its DNG files are smaller (about half) and vary from shot to shot. With RAW this should not be the case. However, ProShot only supports RAW for the default back lens like any other 3rd party app I am aware of. I hope that Google enables 3rd party access to the other 2 back lenses for RAW in the future.
In fact, my default app is now ProShot. The dev is very responsive and addressed several issues I brought up with him.
Thing is If you are going to shoot raw and disown the Google camera app then there is not much point in owning a pixel really. The whole point of a Pixel from a photography point of view is Googles computational photography, without that the camera hardware is pretty average and surpassed by a number of other phone manufacturers.
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I use exclusively ProShot when shooting RAW. RAW files from the Google camera app miss information. That's why the size of its DNG files are smaller (about half) and vary from shot to shot. With RAW this should not be the case. However, ProShot only supports RAW for the default back lens like any other 3rd party app I am aware of. I hope that Google enables 3rd party access to the other 2 back lenses for RAW in the future.
In fact, my default app is now ProShot. The dev is very responsive and addressed several issues I brought up with him.
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Shooting Raw on Google's camera app is giving you compressed raw files, which when compared to uncompressed raw there's virtually no difference. Unless you mess up the exposure by like 5 stops, you ain't gaining anything more by shooting Raw with a seperate app.... especially on a phone.
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Shooting Raw on Google's camera app is giving you compressed raw files, which when compared to uncompressed raw there's virtually no difference. Unless you mess up the exposure by like 5 stops, you ain't gaining anything more by shooting Raw with a seperate app.... especially on a phone.
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I have found that the DNG files produced with Google's camera app are missing certain metadata. For example GPS location etc. The DNG file from ProShot has this info. While this is not important to everybody, it is important to me.
Additionally I prefer using ProShot since it has more manual controls, offers a histogram and allows setting separate exposure and focus points. Even when "only" shooting in JPG I find the pictures more pleasing than the ones from Google's camera app which tend to be over processed to some extend as far as I am concerned.
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I have found that the DNG files produced with Google's camera app are missing certain metadata. For example GPS location etc. The DNG file from ProShot has this info. While this is not important to everybody, it is important to me.
Additionally I prefer using ProShot since it has more manual controls, offers a histogram and allows setting separate exposure and focus points. Even when "only" shooting in JPG I find the pictures more pleasing than the ones from Google's camera app which tend to be over processed to some extend as far as I am concerned.
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When I take photos with my 6 pro and edit the RAW files in Lightroom, my GPS location is still attached after I export the image. Perhaps you should check the settings in Lightroom (if that's what you use) when exporting the photo and see if it's off. I believe by default it is off. I used proshot a lot back in the day, but now I find it totally incomparable to google camera, not to mention buggy AF. But to each their own.
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When I take photos with my 6 pro and edit the RAW files in Lightroom, my GPS location is still attached after I export the image. Perhaps you should check the settings in Lightroom (if that's what you use) when exporting the photo and see if it's off. I believe by default it is off. I used proshot a lot back in the day, but now I find it totally incomparable to google camera, not to mention buggy AF. But to each their own.
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In my experience, the GPS location is only embedded in the JPG file that comes with the DNG file when using Google's camera app. I checked with several programs including ACDSee Ultimate (I switched from Lightroom years ago because of its better editing tools and no annual subscription). Btw, Google Photos also doesn't show the location of the DNG file but does for the JPG file.
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In my experience, the GPS location is only embedded in the JPG file that comes with the DNG file when using Google's camera app. I checked with several programs including ACDSee Ultimate (I switched from Lightroom years ago because of its better editing tools and no annual subscription). Btw, Google Photos also doesn't show the location of the DNG file but does for the JPG file.
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Interesting, I'm looking at photos I took just yesterday, dngs and they have the location info attached in Google photos. As well as photos I took a few days ago.
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Interesting, I'm looking at photos I took just yesterday, dngs and they have the location info attached in Google photos. As well as photos I took a few days ago.
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Interesting indeed. I don't know what's different with my 6 Pro. I have never gotten location info for DNG files. When I use the 19 mm lens for RAW photos (not supported by 3rd party apps) I also copy the JPG file into ACDSee Ultimate and copy and paste its metadata into the DNG file. Not a big deal, but why is this necessary (at least for my setup)?
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Interesting indeed. I don't know what's different with my 6 Pro. I have never gotten location info for DNG files. When I use the 19 mm lens for RAW photos (not supported by 3rd party apps) I also copy the JPG file into ACDSee Ultimate and copy and paste its metadata into the DNG file. Not a big deal, but why is this necessary (at least for my setup)?
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I just went back to the beginning of Feb looking through photos, not all of them were dngs, but I know which ones were, and they all have my location info attached. I like to have that as well as you, so know you have me double checking and making sure lol. But for me it's all there.
I've always used the google camera app when I'm in a hurry. Otherwise, I use
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