Anyway to stop this horrendous battery drain? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

I have wifi/bluetooth scanning OFF. What else could it be?
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I'm not sure on this one....you have to have an app somewhere that is killing your battery. My phone normally gets almost a day and a half easily. With Wifi and bluetooth constantly on, watching YouTube videos, and even screen sharing to my TV. Go through your Apps and find the culprit that is killing your battery.

go back to stock, watch drain for a couple hours install an app, rinse and repeat until you find the culprit.

Here, personalization service uses the GPS the most, but I don't know all the related Samsung apps that depends on it.

Same problem here, i dont use too much my phone, not gaming, not videos, just social Network and the telephone dont reach the 5 1/2 hrs screen time, most of the time is on standby, the WORST battery of all my phones in years.

Those with battery drain issue, are you guys using the Exynos version? Mine is Exynos and the battery drain is crazy since day one

Try this, it doubled battery life for me, especially since I spend the majority of my time connected to WiFi.

I'm using the Exynos version and not noticing abusive battery drain.

wifi will off mobile
djct_watt said:
Try this, it doubled battery life for me, especially since I spend the majority of my time connected to WiFi.
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technically, when you connect to WIFI, mobile data will not be used.
Except you turned on the use Mobile Data if Wifi connection or signal is slow/weak option

I had the same problem... Multiple factory resets and setups later, same problem. Was ready to return the phone because System was using WAY more battery than Display and I was averaging 2.5-3 hours SOT to 5% battery. Found someone suggest Bixby problems in another thread, disabled all Bixby related apps and now battery drain is gone, regularly getting 7-8 hours SOT with no problems.

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inneyeseakay said:
I had the same problem... Multiple factory resets and setups later, same problem. Was ready to return the phone because System was using WAY more battery than Display and I was averaging 2.5-3 hours SOT to 5% battery. Found someone suggest Bixby problems in another thread, disabled all Bixby related apps and now battery drain is gone, regularly getting 7-8 hours SOT with no problems.
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Going to try this and get back to you, thank you so much for sharing

Bixby doesnt even show up in battery usage. Should I still be concerned. I Bixby voice is disabled but routines and the Bixby homescreen is still enabled.
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Additional screenshots (first battery screen is before, second is after disabling all Bixby junk)
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One interesting thig I see in you first(high use) screen shot is the amount of battery used by adguard, where as in the subsequent image it doesn't even show up.

Because all traffic runs through adguard, battery stats are skewed when running it. It tells you this when you first activate it. I wasn't using it when trying to isolate my battery troubles, but I'm back to using it 24/7 and still get 7-8 hours SOT, so it wasn't the cause.
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racingmatt1 said:
Bixby doesnt even show up in battery usage. Should I still be concerned. I Bixby voice is disabled but routines and the Bixby homescreen is still enabled.
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Bixby Voice Wake-Up was a huge drainer for me. Find it in apps, doesn't show up on battery stats page, but when you pull up app stats, it'll show how much battery it's used since last charge and for me it was crazy high.

This phone has had the best battery life by far of any I've owned. I'm on the US version unlocked straight from Samsung, using on T-Mobile network. Use it all day at work, been at work playing games and making fantasy football moves on my phone all morning for the past 6 hours and am still at 75% (and my battery widget that uses the system algorithm says I still have 14 hours remaining at my current usage level), and I use Always On Display on ALL THE TIME. Has to be related to an app or something. I will say though that I installed sideActions and disabled all the Bixby packages (along with several other Samsung-specific packages) since day 1 using CCSWE App Manager. I'm not a light user, either - I have Nova Launcher, several KWGT dynamic widgets, Tasker, AutoInput, etc...
Do ensure you have battery optimization turned on.

cjxsutton said:
This phone has had the best battery life by far of any I've owned. I'm on the US version unlocked straight from Samsung, using on T-Mobile network. Use it all day at work, been at work playing games and making fantasy football moves on my phone all morning for the past 6 hours and am still at 75%, and I use Always On Display on ALL THE TIME. Has to be related to an app or something. I will say though that I installed sideActions and disabled all the Bixby packages (along with several other Samsung-specific packages) since day 1 using CCSWE App Manager. I'm not a light user, either - I have Nova Launcher, several KWGT dynamic widgets, Tasker, AutoInput, etc...
Do ensure you have battery optimization turned on.
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Yes I do.
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inneyeseakay said:
I had the same problem... Multiple factory resets and setups later, same problem. Was ready to return the phone because System was using WAY more battery than Display and I was averaging 2.5-3 hours SOT to 5% battery. Found someone suggest Bixby problems in another thread, disabled all Bixby related apps and now battery drain is gone, regularly getting 7-8 hours SOT with no problems.
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Have used my phone whole day, lot of SOT, browser mainly, and i still have 59% left on the battery...
Optimized settings, HD+, wifi OFF, AOD ON, GPS ON, notifications ON, Adaptive battery ON, unsued Apps Standby ON, deactivate auto. unused apps ON...
No problem here. Exynos Note10+.

mafy31 said:
Have used my phone whole day, lot of SOT, browser mainly, and i still have 59% left on the battery...
No problem here. Exynos Note10+.
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This was directed towards the OP who IS having issues... some people are having issues, just because you aren't doesn't discount other people's problems.

inneyeseakay said:
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Do you have any other apps you have disabled or frozen using CCSWE and can share the list please?
Disabling those Bixby apps helped a bit with my drain.

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[Q] Rapid Battery Life depletion during sleep

Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
nscian12 said:
Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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go to settings/power/usage. this will tell you which app is using the most of you battery. also you should never have gps on while youre sleeping. you might also want to turn off auto-sync and then re-enable it after you wake up. you can create a widget to do just that. if you need help with that, just let me know.
Turn data Wi-Fi and gps off lol.... You are asleep
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nscian12 said:
Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.
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Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.
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you cant turn blinkfeed off...
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you cant turn blinkfeed off...
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You can go into settings and make sure everything is unchecked. Mine had several checked by default and it was draining battery.
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Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
nscian12 said:
Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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airplane mode...
Really, 1% per hour on standby with cellular radios on is pretty acceptable. Depending on signal strength, the radio could be pulling that just to maintain a connection to the tower.
Thanks everyone!
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.
nscian12 said:
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.
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Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!
andybones said:
Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!
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Thanks! unfortunately I don't root my phones but for now the One does what I need it to perfectly and seamlessly
nscian12 said:
Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4
similar problem here....google services is killing my battery (relatively). location is part of it, but google hangouts is also going crazy (watchdog alerts me to excessive usage....over 50%, but hangouts was at 100%)
i was spoiled on my g-nex, where i left wifi, bluetooth, and GPS on 24/7 and could easily go 24 hours. now i'm lucky to get 12 (with about 1 hour of screen on time).
I'm hoping things will sort out, device is only about a week old, but google optimized location usage (iirc) such that it isn't supposed to constantly ping and kill battery. we shall see, i guess.
I'm not sure what the problem could be but I'm just gonna say that yesterday I got around 18 hours of battery life with over 5 hours screen on time which I consider awesome battery life.
I'm stock, so it's definitely possible to get good battery life.
10 percent overnight? Thats not that great but not horrible. My dna is running carbon (android 4.3) I use tasker to turn off autosync and data/wifi and put it on silent at whatever set time I make it. My phone drains about 5 percent max overnight, usually a lot less.
anilpalepu said:
Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4
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you can turn off updates in facebook and its not bad, but yeah if you have autoupdate on, it can kill the battery.
as far as the OP, I don't get why you don't charge you phone while you are sleeping. Seems like the perfect time.
Turning GPS off shouldn't affect your battery life. If you're not using your phone, the phone isn't going to use the GPS for anything. So it shouldn't be using your battery. The culprit is usually an app that is wakelocking your phone. So you need to find which app it is that constantly wakes your phone from deep sleep. Turning off autosync would help a bit if you are really paranoid. The big thing that hurts our battery when the screen is off, is the LTE radio, but most people are connected to WiFi when they sleep so it's not a big deal.
Just an FYI, turning off GPS has been ineffective since 2.2 Froyo. When Gingerbread 2.3 was released like 2+ years ago, it allowed for the GPS to only be used when an app called for it to be used. Otherwise GPS will not do anything unless you pull up an app that calls it to do something.

Rapid Battery Drain - How can I improve?

My battery seems to be draining quite fast. I have removed a lot of bloatware, but I'm not getting the type of performance that others are getting.
It has lost 70% in 5 hours just doing a little browsing, watching a 20minute video and playing a game for half an hour. This was with Wifi on, and mobile data switched off, and background data switched off too.
I've had the device for a week now and I've charged it every day.
Any Ideas on how to improve it?
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My battery seems to be draining quite fast. I have removed a lot of bloatware, but I'm not getting the type of performance that others are getting.
It has lost 70% in 5 hours just doing a little browsing, watching a 20minute video and playing a game for half an hour. This was with Wifi on, and mobile data switched off, and background data switched off too.
I've had the device for a week now and I've charged it every day.
Any Ideas on how to improve it?
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Could well be your brightness level? Are you using autobrightness or is it on a fixed level (I hope its not fixed at 100%!)
If you use autobrightness try using an app like LUX auto brightness instead.
Bad4ss said:
My battery seems to be draining quite fast. I have removed a lot of bloatware, but I'm not getting the type of performance that others are getting.
It has lost 70% in 5 hours just doing a little browsing, watching a 20minute video and playing a game for half an hour. This was with Wifi on, and mobile data switched off, and background data switched off too.
I've had the device for a week now and I've charged it every day.
Any Ideas on how to improve it?
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If you are rooted get wakelock detector that will tell you what's up
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Could well be your brightness level? Are you using autobrightness or is it on a fixed level (I hope its not fixed at 100%!)
If you use autobrightness try using an app like LUX auto brightness instead.
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Thanks for that, I did have it on Auto brightness for the first few days, but the last few days I switched it off just in case it was that, but the problem remained. I will try LUX auto as you suggested.
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If you are rooted get wakelock detector that will tell you what's up
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I am rooted, and thanks for the suggestion of that app - I will get it right now and test with it today, I'll let you know later how I get on.
My guess is a corrupted media file somewhere which is causing your media server to prevent the phone from going into deep sleep. When you go to settings , battery, is media the no 1 juice sucker?
Seifer1975 said:
My guess is a corrupted media file somewhere which is causing your media server to prevent the phone from going into deep sleep. When you go to settings , battery, is media the no 1 juice sucker?
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Yeah I got rid of the radio and media player from one of the homescreens as they showed quite heavily in wake up time. but the battery still kept draining fast.
Just buy another battery and enjoy the pleasures of experiencing a QHD beast I have 3 batteries (2 standard) and managed to strike a freebie on the 3rd battery ..
Showtek1980 said:
Just buy another battery and enjoy the pleasures of experiencing a QHD beast I have 3 batteries (2 standard) and managed to strike a freebie on the 3rd battery ..
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I wouldn't mind, but I just bought it 8 days ago, people are experiencing a lot longer battery life than I can.
Immediately just played a game and look how much has gone.
Why is Android system using up so much? I've even got location switched off and Google search etc. is deleted.
If 're not using Xposed Frameowrk for tweaks, looking into enabling ART - I did that and my battery life has been impressive.
nest75068 said:
If 're not using Xposed Frameowrk for tweaks, looking into enabling ART - I did that and my battery life has been impressive.
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I did try that, but it didn't work and the phone was a bit laggy. Why would android system take up 15% of whatever the battery uses? I'm getting so frustrated, I might do a factory reset.
Here is the picture of what is being used, down 40% in such a short time. :
Bad4ss said:
I did try that, but it didn't work and the phone was a bit laggy. Why would android system take up 15% of whatever the battery uses? I'm getting so frustrated, I might do a factory reset.
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Aosed to make things smoother not laggy
Sounds like you have something eating up massive resources.
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Aosed to make things smoother not laggy
Sounds like you have something eating up massive resources.
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Must be, but I don't have any idea what it is:
Here is a screenshot a few minutes after the last screenshot - another 10% down, and I watched a 8 minute video:
Bad4ss said:
Must be, but I don't have any idea what it is:
Here is a screenshot a few minutes after the last screenshot - another 10% down, and I watched a 8 minute video:
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How long has that screen been on for?
A shot in the dark:
Do you skype? Skype was draining the battery down in the Nexus 7 2013 even when you were not using it. I disabled it and the battery improved greatly.
Another option:
It sounds to me that there's an app that is draining the battery down a whole lot. I would try to isolate that app (by deleting each one you downloaded one at a time) until you have found it.
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A shot in the dark:
Do you skype? Skype was draining the battery down in the Nexus 7 2013 even when you were not using it. I disabled it and the battery improved greatly.
Another option:
It sounds to me that there's an app that is draining the battery down a whole lot. I would try to isolate that app (by deleting each one you downloaded one at a time) until you have found it.
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I don't have skype, but I like your idea - I've gotten rid of almost all the bloatware stuff. What I think I'll do now is charge it to max. DO a factory reset and not allow Google to start downloading all my apps again.
Funny thing though - when I charged it last night and unplugged it for 3 hours it only dropped a couple of percent. It started dying rapidly after I opened up a few other apps.
What I'll do now is charge do a factory reset, then switch it off, then charge to max before turning it on again. When I first got it, it turned on as soon as I plugged it in. did the same happen for everyone?
What you might want to do is download Greenify on the play store. This will tell you what apps are running in the background and then it will turn them off (hibernate).
Bad4ss said:
My battery seems to be draining quite fast. I have removed a lot of bloatware, but I'm not getting the type of performance that others are getting.
It has lost 70% in 5 hours just doing a little browsing, watching a 20minute video and playing a game for half an hour. This was with Wifi on, and mobile data switched off, and background data switched off too.
I've had the device for a week now and I've charged it every day.
Any Ideas on how to improve it?
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Go to accounts and uncheck stuff u dont need synced
Bad4ss said:
I wouldn't mind, but I just bought it 8 days ago, people are experiencing a lot longer battery life than I can.
Immediately just played a game and look how much has gone.
Why is Android system using up so much? I've even got location switched off and Google search etc. is deleted.
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Make sure that you leave the battery charging for about 10-15 minutes more after your cradle light turns green. Sometimes the battery isn't fully charged despite the cradle light turning green. 30 minutes on a game shouldn't be using that much battery consumption.
I usually get about 10-12 hours or more on each of my batteries ( video calling, chatting, games and my 4g is turned on 90% of the time
Try this from Google Play
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en
You can read their reviews and install the app but don't download too many battery monitor apps Keep us posted after a few days of monitoring Good luck :good:

[Q] What exactly does battery saver mode do?

All I can find are vague descriptions. Nothing saying what exactly it's doing. From my experience thus far it's doing nothing. I am not getting better battery.
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All I can find are vague descriptions. Nothing saying what exactly it's doing. From my experience thus far it's doing nothing. I am not getting better battery.
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From what I know it lowers the CPU clock speed and decreases brightness. All with the intent of saving battery.
I read that while it DOESN'T limit the CPU, it does lower the brightness and cuts out your data/BT/location/NFC in order to preserve the little bit of battery.
Edit: And syncs.
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I read that while it DOESN'T limit the CPU, it does lower the brightness and cuts out your data/BT/location/NFC in order to preserve the little bit of battery.
Edit: And syncs.
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I don't think it actually does any of that though. I have been using it a lot the past few days half on half off. I still get all MMS and emails right away plus my photos are syncing with google. My brightness doesn't change (auto or not). plus I have BT and WIFI on all the time for smart watch and of course data usage . Maybe the processor, but im not even sure of that. Guess I could do benchmarks with it on and off and see. I just feel like this feature is doing nothing at this time. On my nexus 5 I could really see the processor throttle and brightness him with battery saver.
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I don't think it actually does any of that though. I have been using it a lot the past few days half on half off. I still get all MMS and emails right away plus my photos are syncing with google. My brightness doesn't change (auto or not). plus I have BT and WIFI on all the time for smart watch and of course data usage . Maybe the processor, but im not even sure of that. Guess I could do benchmarks with it on and off and see. I just feel like this feature is doing nothing at this time. On my nexus 5 I could really see the processor throttle and brightness him with battery saver.
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Mine only does that under 15% battery. Seems like its doing nothing over that.
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The default is under 15% and when it kicks in, i definitely notice a difference in the phone.
You can change it to immediately from 15% and i bet you will notice a difference at any battery percentage.
Cpu speed is not affected, just checked this.
Brightness was indeed cut off considerably, haven't checked for other things yet :good:
I figured out why it wasn't working for me. Simply clicking the icon to green in the pull down only enables it when it gets before 15 percent. Didn't force it on now like I thought it was.
Why is there so little discussion on this feature? I found very few threads on this and this was the most active conversation even though it is so old. I found out today I could enable this feature at anytime, not just at 5 or 15%. So I have it enabled at 100% battery and testing today. Upon enabling battery saver mode and restrict idle apps, the screen immediately went dim. I turned it back up slightly. I also noticed apps acting different. Toggling between apps is quicker and the animations are gone. Also, I'm using chrome and it's acting different. It's hard to explain, but if I'm navigating from one website to another, it is feels like it is refreshing every time, it doesnt feel faster. Im not sure what it is doing but someone with more experience will probably be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It's not standard chrome behavior.
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Why is there so little discussion on this feature? I found very few threads on this and this was the most active conversation even though it is so old. I found out today I could enable this feature at anytime, not just at 5 or 15%. So I have it enabled at 100% battery and testing today. Upon enabling battery saver mode and restrict idle apps, the screen immediately went dim. I turned it back up slightly. I also noticed apps acting different. Toggling between apps is quicker and the animations are gone. Also, I'm using chrome and it's acting different. It's hard to explain, but if I'm navigating from one website to another, it is feels like it is refreshing every time, it doesnt feel faster. Im not sure what it is doing but someone with more experience will probably be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It's not standard chrome behavior.
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Not sure with the Chrome part of it. I use a different browser. With FireFox everything feels about the same as before.
I also noticed the animations are removed so there is no fancy domino effect or sliding going on. It's all instant and to be honest it feels heck of a lot quicker this way.
Screen is much more dim and is extremely conservative for the most part.
Clock speed is the same. Although I wonder if there is some sort of under the hood change such as MPDecision switching over to battery saving mode. It personally makes no sense to leave it as is considering in the past it use to cap the clock speed.
So using battery saver today along with restrict apps in background, the former definitely shuts down background data. I noticed Google play store not authenticating paid for apps. I had to go to the play store to launch the app and re-authenticate. That is where I received the warning that background data is off. I have a weather widget and that does not appear to be updating as that uses background data. I have a barometer widget and that does appear to be working as that uses sensor data. All that is required to re-enable background data is to uncheck restrict background apps under the battery saver mode. As of right now, I am at 71% battery and 2 hours 14 minutes screen on time, 3 hrs 53 minutes on the battery. I'm mostly using chrome while screen is on and podkicker and listened to about an hour of audio and a little bit of teamspeak usage with my Bluetooth headset. Brightness is at 37% which is pretty dim in this mode. I'd say it's equal to 15% in regular mode bit good enough to see.
Update, I went all the way to 25% battery remaining yesterday and I had right at 5 hour SOT. In my opinion, this mode is not worth the hassle. Background data is off and that breaks a few things. Screen is pretty dim and I ended up turning it up anyway. I have had similar battery life in the past anyway. I have had 7 hours 20 minutes of SOT before without this mode on and all my widgets working. I'm going to leave this mode off.
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mattnin said:
Update, I went all the way to 25% battery remaining yesterday and I had right at 5 hour SOT. In my opinion, this mode is not worth the hassle. Background data is off and that breaks a few things. Screen is pretty dim and I ended up turning it up anyway. I have had similar battery life in the past anyway. I have had 7 hours 20 minutes of SOT before without this mode on and all my widgets working. I'm going to leave this mode off.
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yup..i feels like the batrey saving mode is draining more batrey life than not using it..is there a solution for this ?

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Been poking around here and reading all the posts that people had mentioning battery life on stock/cm11. Is battery life really that good? I find myself trying everything possible (including hardly using the device, turning brightness all the way down, turning off bluetooth & Dynamic perspective) and I find that my phone is dropping like a brick. I can have the phone lose %s in front of me just having the screen open for a few minutes doing nothing else.
I even have two apps to optimize/kill all other apps and I'm finding that this phone is dying faster than a t-mobile pre paid LG L90 I was using prior. I just don't see how people with stock and all the features on are getting more than 5 hours battery life tops. This phone dies while you use it on the charger, which is a first from any phone I've ever used.
How do your experiences stack up? Do I just have a bad unit? Really considering going to cm11 now (really wanted to like Fire OS).
You must have something wrong with the phone. I have had Samsung S3's and S4's and the Fire is far and away the best I have experienced for battery life. I am getting close on two days on a full charge although I do not use it a great deal for voice calls.
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You must have something wrong with the phone. I have had Samsung S3's and S4's and the Fire is far and away the best I have experienced for battery life. I am getting close on two days on a full charge although I do not use it a great deal for voice calls.
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Are you keeping Dynamic perspective off with a low brightness instead of auto? Don't see how two days is possible unless you absolutely never used the device. I can lose like 10% an hour just on the browser reading text sites.
Fire has the best battery life of any android phone I've owned. I'm on fire os with a different launcher and I have dynamic perspective on (not for home screen obviously). I'm also using auto brightness. I'm rooted with gapps installed. I get great standby time and even in use its good. You should get gsam battery monitor and see what's going on, although I think you might have a broke unit.
Here is a picture from Gsam (I don't have my phone rooted). I think this is pretty bad for only 3:28hrs of screen on time and that was with the screen at the lowest brightness, not on auto. For app usage I have 7% coming from a game I was playing, but the rest of the drain is coming from system and kernel. Would really like to see another users stats with similar screen on time, as I'm pretty sure I could completely kill this phone's battery in 4-5 hours just using silk browser on Reddit.
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Here is a picture from Gsam (I don't have my phone rooted). I think this is pretty bad for only 3:28hrs of screen on time and that was with the screen at the lowest brightness, not on auto. For app usage I have 7% coming from a game I was playing, but the rest of the drain is coming from system and kernel. Would really like to see another users stats with similar screen on time, as I'm pretty sure I could completely kill this phone's battery in 4-5 hours just using silk browser on Reddit.
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Can you check the kernel wake lock section of the same app?
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Can you check the kernel wake lock section of the same app?
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On the off chance that you or anyone else can help me understand what's going on I ran a ~10% drain test and made a picture including information from WakeLock Detector and GSam. This drain seems very bad considering the screen was only on for a total of 16 minutes and I lost 8% power.
imgur.com/YbgFfmA
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On the off chance that you or anyone else can help me understand what's going on I ran a ~10% drain test and made a picture including information from WakeLock Detector and GSam. This drain seems very bad considering the screen was only on for a total of 16 minutes and I lost 8% power.
imgur.com/YbgFfmA
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Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. It's hard to determine exactly what's going on there but if you download kernel adiutor (yes, that's the spelling) you'll see its locked at 300mhz most of the time. I know it sounds crazy but have you rebooted? That can often sort out a misbehaving app. Are you rooted? If so deploy greenify.
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Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. It's hard to determine exactly what's going on there but if you download kernel adiutor (yes, that's the spelling) you'll see its locked at 300mhz most of the time. I know it sounds crazy but have you rebooted? That can often sort out a misbehaving app. Are you rooted? If so deploy greenify.
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I am rooted. That screenshot was with using greenify :[
I will get that kernel app.
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Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. It's hard to determine exactly what's going on there but if you download kernel adiutor (yes, that's the spelling) you'll see its locked at 300mhz most of the time. I know it sounds crazy but have you rebooted? That can often sort out a misbehaving app. Are you rooted? If so deploy greenify.
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Do you have any recommended settings for that app? I disabled something that I think is allowing me to enter deep sleep more, but I have to finish testing. Thanks for the help ratbags!
Oh I see what's the wrong.
Battery usage give me a wrong information.
My fire phone lasting about 5hrs turning on screen.
Very very good !!
Thank you.:good::good:
Five hours is good??
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Five hours is good??
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5 hours of "screen on time" is solid, the combined time incl. standby, etc. is of course much longer. He didn't know how to interpret the statistics from the device, it was a misunderstanding.
Ztcc said:
Do you have any recommended settings for that app? I disabled something that I think is allowing me to enter deep sleep more, but I have to finish testing. Thanks for the help ratbags!
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That kernel app won't help battery life but it will show you how long you spend in deep sleep.
As for greenify, you should greenify all the Google apps. I actually greenify everything except sms app, browser, phone and alarm apps.
Also, this could possibly be some kind of location based frippery. Turn location services off or onto battery saving mode if only temporarily. And turn off auto sync if it's on.

Battery Drain

Ever since I updated to 8.1.0 with December security patch, I've noticed my battery draining faster than normal. I was getting 4-5 hours of SOT with around 45-50% battery left. This was after being off the charger for 12-16 hours. Now I'm getting about half the SOT at similar numbers. Anyone have any ideas?
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Ever since I updated to 8.1.0 with December security patch, I've noticed my battery draining faster than normal. I was getting 4-5 hours of SOT with around 45-50% battery left. This was after being off the charger for 12-16 hours. Now I'm getting about half the SOT at similar numbers. Anyone have any ideas?
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Excuse my stating the obvious, but you need to find what process or app is using the battery. You should be able to get a rough idea just using the new features under Settings>>Battery. It will identify which apps are using the most juice. Run the phone in Safe Mode to see if your battery life goes back to normal. It could also be a service like Google Play Service which sometimes wigs out and starts chewing battery. Are you rooted? If you need more detailed information there are battery drain apps available to help isolate the problem (BBS and GSam). These apps require root to give the best results.
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Excuse my stating the obvious, but you need to find what process or app is using the battery. You should be able to get a rough idea just using the new features under Settings>>Battery. It will identify which apps are using the most juice. Run the phone in Safe Mode to see if your battery life goes back to normal. It could also be a service like Google Play Service which sometimes wigs out and starts chewing battery. Are you rooted? If you need more detailed information there are battery drain apps available to help isolate the problem (BBS and GSam). These apps require root to give the best results.
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Not rooted and currently locked. I've downloaded GSAM and have adb permissions and it simply says things like Chrome, RCS Phone and Play services. If you see from the photos below you can see what I'm talking about. Chrome currently isn't that bad, but yesterday and the past couple days it's been like 9% or more of the battery.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hFvQKO7q3pZTHFNb2
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Not rooted and currently locked. I've downloaded GSAM and have adb permissions and it simply says things like Chrome, RCS Phone and Play services. If you see from the photos below you can see what I'm talking about. Chrome currently isn't that bad, but yesterday and the past couple days it's been like 9% or more of the battery.
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Two things: I've never seen phone or kernel use that much battery. On one page phone usage is 33 seconds, yet it used 9% ? I think RCS is running the background all the time. See if you can toggle it to not run in the background under Settings>>Apps>. High kernel I'm guessing is a kernel wakelock or multiple. You've probably loaded app(s) that are creating the problem, but you need to find out which one is causing the wakelocks. There is a wakelock detector "lite" app that doesn't need root but I don't know how well it works. I know the root version works well. Lastly, on the first screenshot with the battery, scroll to the bottom of the page and see which apps are listed there. I'd be willing to bet if you ran the phone in Safe Mode, your battery drain would disappear, meaning your user apps are causing it.
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Two things: I've never seen phone or kernel use that much battery. On one page phone usage is 33 seconds, yet it used 9% ? I think RCS is running the background all the time. See if you can toggle it to not run in the background under Settings>>Apps>. High kernel I'm guessing is a kernel wakelock or multiple. You've probably loaded app(s) that are creating the problem, but you need to find out which one is causing the wakelocks. There is a wakelock detector "lite" app that doesn't need root but I don't know how well it works. I know the root version works well. Lastly, on the first screenshot with the battery, scroll to the bottom of the page and see which apps are listed there. I'd be willing to bet if you ran the phone in Safe Mode, your battery drain would disappear, meaning your user apps are causing it.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/4v8seKwMJnceaVUG3
Well in safe mode my drain is gone so I'm not sure which app is doing it, but to directly answer your question about the RCS it is an overall app meaning it is related to several Google play services. I'll upload a photo of it. I have to reboot into normal mode.
Edit: I'm wrong about that it was the play services.. I'll have to start uninstalling the apps to determine which one is draining the battery I guess.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/4v8seKwMJnceaVUG3
Well in safe mode my drain is gone so I'm not sure which app is doing it, but to directly answer your question about the RCS it is an overall app meaning it is related to several Google play services. I'll upload a photo of it. I have to reboot into normal mode.
Edit: I'm wrong about that it was the play services.. I'll have to start uninstalling the apps to determine which one is draining the battery I guess.
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RCS can be a real battery hog, but I don't know why. I don't have RCS on AT&T. Do you use Messages as your primary SMS? Open Settings>>Advanced and see if you can toggle off "Enhanced Features". Open properties and check if it is using battery optimization. If it is not, set Messages to battery optimization. You can always turn these back on later if the battery drain remains.
My battery life has been restored to pretty much the same as it was with 8.0. I also noticed poor battery life after installing the 8.1 update, even though they changed the way battery life is estimated with this update (supposedly). Something just felt off, but now everything feels great! I am fairly certain what changed is installing the Greenify Magisk module and/or the Google play services doze module (this enables battery optimization on the Google play services app). Not sure which one really made the difference because I installed them at the same time. However, there is definitely a major difference!!
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My battery life has been restored to pretty much the same as it was with 8.0. I also noticed poor battery life after installing the 8.1 update, even though they changed the way battery life is estimated with this update (supposedly). Something just felt off, but now everything feels great! I am fairly certain what changed is installing the Greenify Magisk module and/or the Google play services doze module (this enables battery optimization on the Google play services app). Not sure which one really made the difference because I installed them at the same time. However, there is definitely a major difference!!
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Here's proof!!
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Here's proof!!
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In my experience that's really good.
Before 8.1 I noticed about 11% per hour during screen on use and about 0.33% per hour while on stand by in my pocket or a little bit better if it's just sitting on my night stand not moving while I'm sleeping (I think doze is more extreme in that situation) which seems to match what you are getting. Based on that screen shot I think that's like 8 hours screen on time over like 35 hours for a full charge. I've done a little bit better but not much. That's excellent battery life.
Since 8.1 it has dropped. Best now is maybe 7 to MAYBE 7.5 hours over maybe 26-28 hours. In my experience battery life always drops after an update but this case is far from the worst. I remember when my Nexus 5 updated from KitKat to Lollipop. The battery drop was awful and to make matters worse the battery life of the Nexus 5 was pretty bad to begin with.
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Here's proof!!
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Which font is that?
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Which font is that?
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Default. I didn't change the system font.
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Here's proof!!
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What are your settings for Greenify
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Prattham said:
What are your settings for Greenify
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Here...
So in my last reply I thought I was wrong about RCS Phone app being a conglomerate of several apps in the phone. For some reason I couldn't find the information I needed at that time. I wiped my phone and started over after posting this thread. I was trying to isolate the misbehaving app. I thought it might have been greenify actually, but no the drain has returned to a lesser extent though. Here's some photos of this RCS app from GSAM.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rvw077mBfNULbsRE3
I'm not sure what is causing the drain at this point. I've installed Better Battery Stats to locate the wakelocks so I can ignore them through ADB.
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andrewjt19 said:
So in my last reply I thought I was wrong about RCS Phone app being a conglomerate of several apps in the phone. For some reason I couldn't find the information I needed at that time. I wiped my phone and started over after posting this thread. I was trying to isolate the misbehaving app. I thought it might have been greenify actually, but no the drain has returned to a lesser extent though. Here's some photos of this RCS app from GSAM.
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Have you tried disabling RCS ? (Post #6). BBS is good for idle drain, active drain not so much. It's best run overnight without touching the phone for 8 hours or so. Pick the phone up in the morning and create/save a log file as quickly as possible. Post the log to the BBS thread if you need help deciphering.
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Have you tried disabling RCS ? (Post #6). BBS is good for idle drain, active drain not so much. It's best run overnight without touching the phone for 8 hours or so. Pick the phone up in the morning and create/save a log file as quickly as possible. Post the log to the BBS thread if you need help deciphering.
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I cannot disable it since it is comprised of multiple apps. You can see it in the pics on my last post.
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