update to Oct patchset. I have some awesome news!!! The Oct patchset fixes the Ram mgmt issue on Pixel devices for good. Looks like it was a leak in System UI.
I have tried to reproduce my bug and I can start as many apps as I want and it does not lock up anymore. You can refer
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2019-10-01
for more details.
Edit: I could keep about 20 apps, including camera, firefox, whatsapp, slack, gmail, messages, photos, play store, amazon shopping and so on. They stay put on my Pixel3XL!! Awesome!
Wow. So it took Google just a year to fix this?
mgymnop said:
Wow. So it took Google just a year to fix this?
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Better late than never right.
So how exactly should this feature behave? I've never understood.
It should stay in the Recents drawer and not reload the app when re-opening?
Link in the OP doesn't work. This one has a list of updates, though: https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2019-10-01
Spl1tz said:
So how exactly should this feature behave? I've never understood.
It should stay in the Recents drawer and not reload the app when re-opening?
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Not a feature. If this is true (what the OP is stating), this is how the phone should have behaved on day one. But yes, the apps should remain open after "re-opening" them from your app drawer.
rczrider said:
Link in the OP doesn't work. This one has a list of updates, though: https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2019-10-01
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Fixed.
Yes... I also noticed opening camera app doesn't kill my background apps (like Spotify, Google play music, GPS tracking sw) as often like before... Let's see if this keeps....
Anything like that for pie? Like, a fix I mean...
Any magisk module to help with that? Or something?
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If this is in the wrong thread then please move to correct one.
Has anyone else had issues with this... I'll call it problem, but by the way it behaves, it seems more like its a bug.
It has only been something I've seen on Marshmallow. Try to install an app, and its 50/50 whether or not you get "screen overlay detected"
Try to give an app permission, "screen overlay detected".
I should also point out that it isnt just restricted to HTC. My partners (now apparently ticking time bomb) s7 has also had the issue
You can disable as many screen overlays as you like, it still doesnt go away.
I've noticed now, too, that anytime a chat head from facebook messenger is on screen when I try to do something like install an app, it will spit out that problem until I close the chat head. Which was never an issue, ever, before.
Where has this thing come from and why is it even a problem for Android?
Those chat heads on the messenger as well as light filters, as e.g. CF.lumen, are always screen overlays. Those overlays could read out the whole screen, and thus as well what you're typing into banking apps or similar. Thus Google updated the privacy policy of their devices in Marshmallow, ending up in this specific error message. Sometimes it's enough to just turn the screen overlay of via settings > apps, regarding Apps like FB Messenger, CF.lumen, and the like, on other times and Apps you got to reboot the device after done so, or disable the overlay within the Apps settings as well, and seldomly you got to uninstall such an App to get the problem sorted for the time being. At least that's what I could find out searching the web.
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silegeek said:
Where has this thing come from and why is it even a problem for Android?
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It's so malicious apps don't replace the install button with something else (like an install button to install something else).
It's quite clever if you think about it.
Lambo_car16 said:
It's so malicious apps don't replace the install button with something else (like an install button to install something else).
It's quite clever if you think about it.
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In theory I would say it's clever. In practice, it doesn't distinguish between safe apps that are harmless and those that aren't.
silegeek said:
In theory I would say it's clever. In practice, it doesn't distinguish between safe apps that are harmless and those that aren't.
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How does the system know if an app is safe or not..?
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Lambo_car16 said:
How does the system know if an app is safe or not..?
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Since Facebook messenger (and pretty much all my apps, most of which don't even have screen overlays but are in the list for it) was downloaded from Google play, I would imagine it isn't difficult to implement a system that flags it as safe.
If an app is installed via an apk, even if it is safe, I would understand more the need for concern. You never know, etc.
silegeek said:
Since Facebook messenger (and pretty much all my apps, most of which don't even have screen overlays but are in the list for it) was downloaded from Google play, I would imagine it isn't difficult to implement a system that flags it as safe.
If an app is installed via an apk, even if it is safe, I would understand more the need for concern. You never know, etc.
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It would be difficult to implement a system like that. You never know which app is fake or real. Maybe it was a modified version of the app, you'll never know.
Either way, the feature is there and if you want to install an app just quickly turn off your overlay. Not exactly a big problem.
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I've been getting a small pop-up add, usually from Microsoft, after every call I make. Anyone else getting them or know how to stop them?
Do you have any Microsoft related apps installed on your phone?
think about what apps youve installed in the past
go through them one by one and figure it out
quiet_kisho said:
I've been getting a small pop-up add, usually from Microsoft, after every call I make. Anyone else getting them or know how to stop them?
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As stated above you have installed an app that is spamming your phone with adds.
airmaxx23 said:
Do you have any Microsoft related apps installed on your phone?
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flex360 said:
think about what apps youve installed in the past
go through them one by one and figure it out
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nrage23 said:
As stated above you have installed an app that is spamming your phone with adds.
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You're right, it was a Microsoft app, Outlook. It's strange though, I had it installed on my Oneplus One and I never got the adds. Maybe it was the latest update or something.
Edit: The ads came back after uninstalling Outlook.
quiet_kisho said:
You're right, it was a Microsoft app, Outlook. It's strange though, I had it installed on my Oneplus One and I never got the adds. Maybe it was the latest update or something.
Edit: The ads came back after uninstalling Outlook.
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Didn't know this but good to know not to install Mickeysoft apps on my phone, I use touchdown expensive but great
Its not apps. Its a website you visited that's spamming you. Clear your history and cookies all that good stuff and it should get rid of the problem.
I had the same issue and this is what I was told
That's how I solved this issue on my LG V20 running Nougat:
Go to:
Settings / General / Google Services / Ads / Opt out of Ads Personalization
My 2 cents
Hello! Long (LONG!) time lurker. Decided to finally make an account today to ask you guys some questions...
My OnePlus 5T will be arriving today, and I plan to immediately flash FreedomOS - and wish to go as Google-less as possible.
RSalad said:
I simply want to minimize Google's presence in my day-to-day life... and that's a topic for a totally separate discussion that I don't really wish to partake in here.
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A few years ago I heard about a way for the YouTube app to function without the Google Play Services. Is this still possible? I want to go completely without GApps, etc.
So far my plan(s) for application replacements are as follows:
1. Google Maps -> HERE WeGo
2. Google Drive -> Dropbox
3. Google PlayStore -> Use raw APKs downloaded from the internet + Aptoide + F-Droid
4. Google Calendar -> Etar or DigiCal
5. Google Photos -> QuickPic
6. SMS -> Signal
Anything I'm missing?
With that being said- Is there really any need for me to download/flash any GApps, whatsoever?
What are the benefits on going without gapps?
IonutP said:
What are the benefits on going without gapps?
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I simply want to minimize Google's presence in my day-to-day life... and that's a topic for a totally separate discussion that I don't really wish to partake in here.
funnoam said:
Better buy an iPhone then no ?
I mean even if you completely remove all Google apps, you pay a small percentage of the phone price to Google, then you're using AOSP but still coded by Google. Then by watching YouTube you're completely in the Google system too, and watching ads gives them money too.
So you want to do this the hard way ? Buy an iPhone, use Bing, stop watching YouTube.
There's no point just breaking android by removing Google services and play store...
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Once again, this is completely off-topic. If you have helpful insight to my questions then post it, if not- move along.
RSalad said:
Once again, this is completely off-topic. If you have helpful insight to my questions then post it, if not- move along.
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I just edited my message to give you some advices on some apps, but there's also a debate over buying an Android and in the same time do not want to support Google...
Do whatever you feel :angel:
Some apps are really broken when you don't have Play Services. Except crashes and missing features.
Also if you watch YouTube in browser (I suppose you won't use chrome then) you'll be limited to 480p.
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I just edited my message to give you some advices on some apps, but there's also a debate over buying an Android and in the same time do not want to support Google...
Do whatever you feel :angel:
Some apps are really broken when you don't have Play Services. Except crashes and missing features.
Also if you watch YouTube in browser (I suppose you won't use chrome then) you'll be limited to 480p.
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I'm aware that some apps will not function correctly. I can work around that. I'm not concerned about that.
As far as the YouTube app hack is concerned, it is not a part of a browser. It is a hacked version of the YouTube app. Completely different, and is fully functional.
I have several years of experience developing/modding android, and I'm sure I will do just fine without GApps.
I am simply here asking about the old YouTube app hack method, and seeing if I am forgetting any baser level GApp.
Thanks so much for your... help...
I use iYTBP for my YouTube app as it features a black design, no ads and background listening. Not sure if it will work without Play Services but you can still try it.
Your welcome for my ...help...
Less condescension can work too.
You can use microG to spoof the Google services (at least in YouTube's case) and use iYTBP (google it, read the xda post and download from their website). Otherwise you could try NewPipe.
You don't need another SMS app, the phone comes with one from OnePlus by default.
It also has a gallery application from OnePlus, so you should avoid QuickPic (as it is pretty much adware).
You could also try to look for a HydrogenOS image on the chinese OnePlus website, but I'm not sure if any have been posted. That way you won't even need to get rid of the Google apps, as there are none.
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You can use microG to spoof the Google services (at least in YouTube's case). Otherwise, try NewPipe?
You don't need another SMS app, the phone comes with one from OnePlus by default.
It also has a gallery application from OnePlus, so you should avoid QuickPic (as it is pretty much adware).
You could also try to look for a HydrogenOS image on the chinese OnePlus website, but I'm not sure if any have been posted. That way you won't even need to get rid of the Google apps, as there are none.
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Oh wow is QuickPic really that bad? I've never tried it, but reading all about it, it seemed nice.
That's a shame.
Thanks for the notice about NewPipe by the way, I totally forgot about that!
Newpipe is a great replacement from YouTube and you can download videos/music
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Some worthwhile reading for you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/gapps-free-samsung-galaxy-s3-lte-gt-t3553620
FreedomOS does not give you the ability to remove all Google apps.
I flashed H2OS and microg as soon as I got the phone.
Didgeridoohan said:
Some worthwhile reading for you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/gapps-free-samsung-galaxy-s3-lte-gt-t3553620
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Holy cow. I don't know of a more helpful or relevant post reference. Thank you so much for this!
The built in apps are pretty bad. Gallery is very limited. Messages is crippled. Dialer has a bug in it and Contacts is a bit wonky.
I put the Google apps back ON and disabled the built in apps.
You can also replace Chrome with Brave
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n1kos said:
You can also replace Chrome with Brave
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Enjoy the amazing battery life going googless. I did this a few years back for a while and enjoyed it.
Baldilocks said:
The built in apps are pretty bad. Gallery is very limited. Messages is crippled. Dialer has a bug in it and Contacts is a bit wonky.
I put the Google apps back ON and disabled the built in apps.
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Totally off-topic, but I purchased a phone from you on Swappa last year. LG G6 for $475.
Edit: Not last year. Got it on June 21, 2017.
Edit2: How funny is that... Small world. Nice to see you around.
I mean you can still use the YouTube app and I have ads if you use the Xposed app to install YouTube adaway molecule to be completely ad-free
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RSalad said:
Hello! Long (LONG!) time lurker. Decided to finally make an account today to ask you guys some questions...
My OnePlus 5T will be arriving today, and I plan to immediately flash FreedomOS - and wish to go as Google-less as possible.
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lulz
Install adaway, import this
http://t-ryder.de/googlehosts.txt
Also comes in other flavours btw...
http://t-ryder.de/facebookhosts.txt
http://t-ryder.de/xiaomihosts.txt
http://t-ryder.de/spotifyhosts.txt (ads only)
(all that stuff is maybe outdated a bit)
Is anyone else getting random ads popping up in apps?
Nope. Nothing new here.
Have you installed any new apps lately?
Some of the free apps will plague you with adware.
Sucks, because some nasty devs will get their app reviewed by hundreds of fake people giving it 5 stars just so they can get you to install the crap.
I cringe whenever I install a new live wallpaper because those are notorious for this.
CZ Eddie said:
Nope. Nothing new here.
Have you installed any new apps lately?
Some of the free apps will plague you with adware.
Sucks, because some nasty devs will get their app reviewed by hundreds of fake people giving it 5 stars just so they can get you to install the crap.
I cringe whenever I install a new live wallpaper because those are notorious for this.
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Just to make sure i understand, android apps now can install adware that allows it to run and show ads right ontop of other apps?
dy2592 said:
Just to make sure i understand, android apps now can install adware that allows it to run and show ads right ontop of other apps?
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Install AdAway and use the Adware Scan feature, then uninstall the apps that could show the ads
Cool, I never noticed the scan-for-apps feature there before!
MarcoReckless said:
Install AdAway and use the Adware Scan feature, then uninstall the apps that could show the ads
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CZ Eddie said:
Cool, I never noticed the scan-for-apps feature there before!
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Thanks. Will try out adaway and report back.
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Thanks. Will try out adaway and report back.
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Ah, I remember in 2014 I had a Droid RAZR M, and it was my first Android... Got dupes into installing some god-awful battery app, and it uninstalled itself after getting me to let it be an administrator; although, it was still there running. But it would never show up in settings in my apps list, so I couldn't "remove it", and on the play store it would say it was installed... Did this same thing, and it also would take me to a random page whenever using the play store... Had to do a complete factory reset... Was AWFUL
I've noticed idle battery drain on my phone and found out that it was caused by an app (it was the Shopee app), so I tried to prevent it from running in background, like limiting its permissions, turning off notifications both in app and phone settings, restricting background activity in Battery Saver.
But after sometime it happens again. I checked in App behavior and it says the app was started by Google Play services.
What does this mean and can I stop it permanently?
If you don't use it, why keep it !
Just uninstall it.
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If you don't use it, why keep it !
Just uninstall it.
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I have never said that I don't use it, can't you read? It's a shopping app and I only open it when I look for something to buy. Do you use your app 24/7???
Saphira209 said:
I have never said that I don't use it, can't you read? It's a shopping app and I only open it when I look for something to buy. Do you use your app 24/7???
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Sorry, you not mentioning that u use it casually, so figured u don't use it. Still, I said "if" though.
Then try to uninstall and install it. Maybe it's the version you have.
If you have root. There are plenty of apps that can put it to sleep.
" rooting "
Hmmm, I know that Google Play Services can be launched by many apps to use any kind of sensors and APIs, but never heard of the opposite... maybe it's the case and is bad translated? In that case, try the BBS app and check what sensors are used
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I have never said that I don't use it, can't you read? It's a shopping app and I only open it when I look for something to buy. Do you use your app 24/7???
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Watch your tone. No one here is obliged to help you so you might as well start talking politely.
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Watch your tone. No one here is obliged to help you so you might as well start talking politely.
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Oh sorry if my words hurt you.
Now, I was asking about GP services and strange app behavior, I want to know if someone had any similar experience. If I could just uninstall then I wouldn't waste your precious time by making this thread would I? That's just throwing the problem away, not solving it.
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Oh sorry if my words hurt you.
Now, I was asking about GP services and strange app behavior, I want to know if someone had any similar experience. If I could just uninstall then I wouldn't waste your precious time by making this thread would I? That's just throwing the problem away, not solving it.
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There are some apps that can disable other apps to auto-start without root, but may need adb commands if running on non-root device:
Brevent
Ice Box
SuperFreezZ App stopper
Saphira209 said:
Oh sorry if my words hurt you.
Now, I was asking about GP services and strange app behavior, I want to know if someone had any similar experience. If I could just uninstall then I wouldn't waste your precious time by making this thread would I? That's just throwing the problem away, not solving it.
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Trash app, trash behavior.
Yeah uninstalling pretty much gets rid of the cause. Wonder what else it's doing?
Solving? That's how it was designed to behave... badly. I would have ditched it the first day.
Or
Disable Google play Services when not needed.
Arguing with members trying to help you won't further you along
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There are some apps that can disable other apps to auto-start without root, but may need adb commands if running on non-root device:
Brevent
Ice Box
SuperFreezZ App stopper
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Thank you, I do have magisk installed, I'll try Ice Box later and see how it works.
About the other 2, from their descriptions I think what they do is force closing unused apps automatically for you is that right? Would it be different from force closing manually? Because I did try to do that but GP services was still able to launch the app occasionally as reported in App behavior.
First time noticing play services could do this so I was really curious lol, idk if it was google services or the app developer can make it like that?
Saphira209 said:
Thank you, I do have magisk installed, I'll try Ice Box later and see how it works.
About the other 2, from their descriptions I think what they do is force closing unused apps automatically for you is that right? Would it be different from force closing manually? Because I did try to do that but GP services was still able to launch the app occasionally as reported in App behavior.
First time noticing play services could do this so I was really curious lol, idk if it was google services or the app developer can make it like that?
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Brevent prevent apps auto-start, and auto-hybernate/auto-close the app when inactive of the time set in the brevent settings.
SuperFreezZ is as you described.
The following is all just guessing:
The reason that you see GP service launch Shopee app is probably Shopee app designed it.
The culprit is more likely Shopee app. It might have designed to wakeup / auto-start when there is change of the system in some conditions, which has some links to GP service.