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There are a few threads on the various Froyo releases, their features bugs etc. but nothing that touches on Froyo's GPS issues specifically.
I'd like to know whether anyone has successfully changed the 'look ahead' behavior that all the Froyo firmwares come with so far.
For those who have not experienced, i.e. not YET noticed this 'feature', here is a brief description:
On Froyo the GPS is showing you exactly where you are even while driving at speed. There is no delay whatsoever. All is well while you are going in a straight line.
The problems begin when you either stop abruptly or take a sharp turn. It then takes the GPS up to a few seconds to come to terms with what just happened. I can only assume this is due to some software component 'smoothing' the path by making up positions, i.e. looking ahead.
I uninstalled JPH and JPK. GPS doesn't do me any good when I see myself still driving down the same road after I took a right turn 5 seconds ago. JM8 and a number of other Eclair firmwares do not suffer from this.
Has anyone successfully 'downgraded' the GPS component of Froyo? Is this even possible? Is there a way to disable the 'look ahead'.....somewhere hidden in settings or some hidden menu?
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Has anyone successfully 'downgraded' the GPS component of Froyo? Is this even possible? Is there a way to disable the 'look ahead'.....somewhere hidden in settings or some hidden menu?
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Did you turn on the "Use Sensor Aiding" feature? That's new in Froyo. Try turning that off. It's in the Location menu.
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Did you turn on the "Use Sensor Aiding" feature? That's new in Froyo. Try turning that off. It's in the Location menu.
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Thanks. I thought I had that disabled. Is this on by default? I'll give that a try next time I load a Froyo firmware....if there was a quick way to nandroid back without an Odin restore, EFS fixup plus all the Voodoo conversions that would be sooner rather than later ;-)
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Thanks. I thought I had that disabled. Is this on by default? I'll give that a try next time I load a Froyo firmware....if there was a quick way to nandroid back without an Odin restore, EFS fixup plus all the Voodoo conversions that would be sooner rather than later ;-)
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The default is off
It greatly helps when it's on I think
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The default is off
It greatly helps when it's on I think
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Isn't it meant to aid while walking? I can see that this may be causing when driving.
Well, there is absolutely no reason this option to decrease performance.. At least shouldnt be, unless Samsung screwed something up as usual. (which actually may be the case)
I had mine set to "off" by default. There is next to no difference while driving.
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Well, there is absolutely no reason this option to decrease performance.. At least shouldnt be, unless Samsung screwed something up as usual. (which actually may be the case)
I had mine set to "off" by default. There is next to no difference while driving.
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As I said in the OP, I've always had the issue that GPS took seconds to realize that I changed direction or suddenly stopped. I'm just guessing that something that is intended to help stabilize GPS at slow speeds (walking, swimming with the dog, etc.) might cause a similar effect while travelling in a car.
swimming with the dog? I shat bricks ;d
Anyway, yes that right. Since its like phone is calculating from the sensor (compass, g-sensor -> speculating here) reads the approximate direction and pace you are moving at. It *might* be a problem with g-sensor read, becouse I find it quite flaky (using gps testing utilities exposes its terrible lag and low sensitivity)
BTW is it better after disabling it?
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swimming with the dog? I shat bricks ;d
Anyway, yes that right. Since its like phone is calculating from the sensor (compass, g-sensor -> speculating here) reads the approximate direction and pace you are moving at. It *might* be a problem with g-sensor read, becouse I find it quite flaky (using gps testing utilities exposes its terrible lag and low sensitivity)
BTW is it better after disabling it?
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Well, there was a guy in another thread who claimed his Galaxy GPS was spot on. To proof that he uploaded a track of his walk with the dog and it clearly went right through the river a couple of times........I thought THAT was hilarious! ;-)
I might flash Froyo once again and play with that setting......still hoping that the Galaxy CAN do acceptable GPS. :-|
i'm mostly happy with the gps software on JPK (compared to JM8 which was already better than "official")
but the lag you're speaking about is killing me. there's waaay too much delay. sure it makes nice recorded tracks, but using it you'll see its crap
going to try my track with aiding stuff off tomorrow although im not sure its going to help
Well i am using JPK and the MOTONAV is running......ok, but i got "GPS LOST SIGNAL" every 10 minutes and the map jump around, after 10 seconds it will find signal again and back on track. anoying.
I borrowed an iphone 4 to test that thing's GPS and compare it to the Galaxy.
I have attached the Horror kml track file. It's no better, if not worse, than the Froyo stuff. I certainly did NOT expect that!
The kml can be viewed with Google earth and other GPS programs.....
And for the record....I did drive ON the road at all times ;-)
There is a new trend obviously. The more expensive the phone, the more messed up the GPS. LOL
What a total fail for the high-end devices these days.
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i'm mostly happy with the gps software on JPK (compared to JM8 which was already better than "official")
but the lag you're speaking about is killing me. there's waaay too much delay. sure it makes nice recorded tracks, but using it you'll see its crap
going to try my track with aiding stuff off tomorrow although im not sure its going to help
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did not help ;D
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did not help ;D
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Bummer......
Maybe they looked at the iPhone and thought it was a great 'feature'.
Oh man, if 2.2 firmware didn't get the GPS issues resolved, then it's pretty much useless for me. I'm happy with the overall phone as it is, minus the GPS issues.
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Oh man, if 2.2 firmware didn't get the GPS issues resolved, then it's pretty much useless for me. I'm happy with the overall phone as it is, minus the GPS issues.
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The GPS issues will NEVER be resolved - it's a hardware problem. You probably just won't ever get Samsung to admit it, now they try those lame "sensor aiding" dirty fixes, but that's just another proof that it's a hardware problem - why else would they spend time doing the sensor aiding?
EDIT: I hope Samsung proves me wrong
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The GPS issues will NEVER be resolved - it's a hardware problem. You probably just won't ever get Samsung to admit it, now they try those lame "sensor aiding" dirty fixes, but that's just another proof that it's a hardware problem - why else would they spend time doing the sensor aiding?
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PROVE IT!!! You are presenting hypothesis as fact, and that might be acceptable in places such as Digg, but it is inappropriate on developer websites.
Also, how do you know that sensor aiding required much much work? After all, it's predictable polling from already working/predictable sensors, unlike GPS sensors which pick up a fuzzy idea of where you are, is affected by satellite coverage, etc.
Sensor aiding can assist even GOOD GPS receivers indoors, tunnels and in areas where signal can drop (heavy trees, huge skyscrapers). Yes, even on Garmin units, this can be handy. We all know that the faster you travel the greater inaccuracies which are incurred, and this can help reduce inaccuracies in those scenarios. There are plenty of reasons to implement this functionality, and not all point towards bad hardware. Samsung probably has a few groups of programmers being thrown at different problems, because programmers aren't scalable, and there is a limit to the number of developers which can work on a specific issue/bug/improvement.
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PROVE IT!!! You are presenting hypothesis as fact, and that might be acceptable in places such as Digg, but it is inappropriate on developer websites.
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I can't prove it - but I can use my brains to put together the circumstantial evidence. Sorry if that isn't good enough for you.
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I can't prove it - but I can use my brains to put together the circumstantial evidence. Sorry if that isn't good enough for you.
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You SAID "The GPS issues will NEVER be resolved - it's a hardware problem", and spreading random rumors like that makes XDA appear unprofessional, and benefits nobody. I've just simply noticed a recent trend towards guesses being slowly changed to fact here in XDA developers, and I'd like to try to reduce the frequency of that happening
i havent gone threw every review but any of u guys catch anything in any review?
the epic by far was the best phone ive used but the GPS was down right awful and sprint nor samsung did anything to fix it
XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I certainly remember that a lot of people had trouble, but I never did. Mine always locked perfectly and quickly and never gave me trouble on drives short and long.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I never understood the gps deal. It seemed so sporadic. Mine always worked and I am stock. I used it last weekend on EH17 to drive 5 hours to saint louis and it was perfect the entire way there and back. Didn't cut out once. But you see some people worth working gps and others without it.
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I have to agree on the gps sucking. On any drive over an hour I could expect to loose lock. I'd imagine if we looked in some of the other GSII forums we might get a clue.
the only thing i ever loved more about my evo then the epic was the gps....htc never gave me gps issues ever
when i had the bionic or droid x they both locked on quick
Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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If you couldn't fix it then that wasn't the norm. I would have returned it to Sprint and got a different one within the first 30 days.
9 hour drives? No problem. Longest I've been on was 6 but the GPS didn't have any problems. The battery on the other hand...
got mine yesterday, used GPS with google nav and telenav. drove for about an hour in farm country Ohio. GPS took a few seconds longer to lock than my EVo but once locked didn't drop signal. Still a little early to tell but no obvious problems yet.
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Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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So if you brick your phone because of something you did is the phone bad. Is there a flaw in the phone? No. And again, I never said there wasn't a problem. Actually I said that there was a problem for some and not for others. The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
Generally speaking GPS on the galaxy S line sucked world wide. Generally speaking it appears that samsung fix this in the galaxy s II.
This is based on reading numerous reviews on both; though it is always possible they messed up on the epic touch as it is slightly different and has wimax; I'm expecting it to work like a charm.
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I do wonder how many folks who tested gps on the galaxy s remember to ignore wifi triangulation when voicing a comment.
Forgot about this thread and started another a bit further down. I managed to sneak GPS status onto our demo phone yesterday and it locked to 9/10 sats in less than 2 seconds from inside. Accuracy was only at 30m when I cut it off, but it was indoors in a spot where my epic cannot lock at all. Pretty sure it's fixed.
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The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
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I did spend a fair amount of time investigating the GPS issues on EC05. There are at least two problems: (i) GpsOne Xtra data that fails to download and update, eventually resulting in stale ephemeris and inability to get timely locks, and (ii) a RIL synchronization bug that results in the GPS crashing with 5% probability on every exit/switch of a GPS utilizing app.
The latter of those two problem is definitely confirmed and affects every EC05 Epic. However, if you only use Navigation once a day, you'll run into that bug an average once a month and might not even notice it. But it is possible to reliably reproduce.
The former of the two problems I never fully understood. The GPS should work as long as you reboot once a week, but we know folks whose phones chronically couldn't download new Xtra data on reboot, likely becuase it was attempting to do so "too quickly" after establishing a network connection. Forcing an Xtra download through GPS Test, GPS Aids, or with a patched framework resolved the issue for most of those folks. The remaining issue is that the ephemeris would still go stale very quickly (hours) on some phones, and an EFS/NVRAM clear appears to help that.
Part of the issue is that the "brokenness" of the GPS is somewhat subjective. It's entirey possible for the GPS to absolutely not be able to get an Xtra-assisted lock, but using almanac data still get one in 30-60s in a vehicle. For some folks, that might be "good enough" and wouldn't think there's much of a problem.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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I think the opposite of what your saying is true. This problem isn't as wide spread as it seems. The few who have this problem are very loud about it and complain about it over the forums. Though I seriously doubt that they are the majority.
If fixing your gps doesn't work then you can always set it back to stock and take it in for repair. If they can't repair and you don't have insurance then you can pay a small fee for a epic with a working gps. I doubt anyone is forcing people to live with a phone that the gps doesn't work on.
Considering that it has a dedicated GPS chip "SiRFstarIV GSD4t GPS" I doubt that we are going to see the same issues.
The integrated GPS on the SoC stinks, and samsung knows that. Using the SiRFstarIV will solve 99% of peoples GPS problems.
engadget claims it is solid. fwiw. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review/
Our calls were absolutely solid. The phone's reception is on par with the best handsets around, and we never suffered from dropped calls or degraded quality. Our calls came in absolutely clear, and we think the speakers go to 11 because we had to actually turn down the volume to comfortably hear the other end of the line. The same thing could be said about the loudspeaker for calls and music, which both came out loud and clear without needing to strain our ears or feeling like we needed to break out the headphones. However, the sound seemed a bit limited when watching a full-length blockbuster movie, though we believe this had to do with the quality of the movie itself and not the phone.Last but not least, we double-checked the GPS to make sure it wouldn't have similar concerns to the Galaxy S series, and weren' t disappointed. In several locations -- including a basement next to a window -- the GPS pulled up our location in less than ten seconds. Needless to say, this is definitely a sound improvement, one we imagine had special attention given to it throughout the course of the phone's development.
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I'm sure people are going to flame me and adamantly disagree, but please hear me out. No one wants this to be wrong more than me. I really like this phone, but I can't live with a broken GPS.
I have tested this two days in a row. I go to work for 9 hours, all radios are on. I never turn the GPS off. When I get home, I change clothes and go on a four mile walk. I use Runtastic to track this. Two days in a row, the GPS symbol comes up, but never stops blinking. If I toggle GPS off and back on, it gets a lock immediately and the GPS icon stops blinking. It will hold the lock for the rest of the walk. Rinse and repeat. Launching Maps or GPS test does not help it get a fix. It stays blinking until I toggle the GPS off/on.
The moral here is that I would have to toggle the GPS off/on every day before I walk. I have not tested this with navigation yet because I ride a motorcycle most days, but I intend to before sending it back. This is strangely similar to the (known) issues that my AT&T Note 3 had.
Please tell me that some of you have seen this. I don't see how it could be a faulty unit. My GS5, G3, and Z3c do not have this issue under the exact same circumstances. The GS5 being the most similar in hardware/software.
I used GPS in the car today and it never lost a lock. I haven't used the app that you speak of however. Is there anything that I can do to help test?
This happened to my note 3. The GPS chip was bad. The hardware was the problem. If you call att they can connect to your phone remotely and see what percentage you are connecting the GPS chip. They told me I was only getting 60%. Sent me a new phone within 2 days...
WizeGuyDezignz said:
I used GPS in the car today and it never lost a lock. I haven't used the app that you speak of however. Is there anything that I can do to help test?
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Good to know it didn't lose the lock on your drive. My Note 3 used to jump around all over the place.
Honestly, I'm not sure what you could do. I don't think it's the app. When it gets like this, Maps, GPS Test, etc. will not get a solid lock until I toggle GPS off and on. The only reason I notice it on Runtastic is because that's when I use the GPS every day.
Something is happening with the GPS chip. It's either going to sleep and not waking up, or it's getting stuck on old GPS data or something. Like I said, I can reproduce it every day just by using it normally and then trying to use the GPS when I get home from work.
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This happened to my note 3. The GPS chip was bad. The hardware was the problem. If you call att they can connect to your phone remotely and see what percentage you are connecting the GPS chip. They told me I was only getting 60%. Sent me a new phone within 2 days...
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Yeah, I had the Note 3, but from what I read it was software. I never did get my unit replaced and I sold it that way.
I bought my Note 4 through Amazon, so I'll have to do a return through them, if it really is defective.
It's possible. I hope you can get it to work. My note 4 is running flawless
Here's the thing too, guys. After I toggle the GPS off/on, the thing works flawlessly for the rest of the evening and through most of the next day. Like, it gets a lock inside within seconds.
That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work at all. It just sort of goes on strike at the same time every night and has to be woken up again.
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How can anyone here, including me, make declarative statements about what a device that's been out less than a week is or isn't doing across the board? Here's my GPS experience and I use it a lot. I use "GPS only" with Wi-Fi and carrier network sensing turned off. The GPS is slow on first lock; slower than my Note 3 was. Once it's locked it stays locked with the exception of losing signal when it encounters obstructions. That's normal and a byproduct of GPS technology not anything specific to the Note 3 or 4. I never had the issues with my Note 3's GPS that some people reported. Other than the slower initial lock I'd say, based on my experiences, the Note 4's GPS is significantly more stable and better at holding a signal. I use Here Beta a lot and the only other issue I've encountered is when the app's out of focus and comes back to the foreground it takes about a second for it to reorient itself. All that said I'd rather have the Note 4's GPS than the Note 3's (keeping in mind my Note 3's GPS served me well).
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How can anyone here, including me, make declarative statements about what a device that's been out less than a week is or isn't doing across the board? Here's my GPS experience and I use it a lot. I use "GPS only" with Wi-Fi and carrier network sensing turned off. The GPS is slow on first lock; slower than my Note 3 was. Once it's locked it stays locked with the exception of losing signal when it encounters obstructions. That's normal and a byproduct of GPS technology not anything specific to the Note 3 or 4. I never had the issues with my Note 3's GPS that some people reported. Other than the slower initial lock I'd say, based on my experiences, the Note 4's GPS is significantly more stable and better at holding a signal. I use Here Beta a lot and the only other issue I've encountered is when the app's out of focus and comes back to the foreground it takes about a second for it to reorient itself. All that said I'd rather have the Note 4's GPS than the Note 3's (keeping in mind my Note 3's GPS served me well).
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I was actually just hoping that someone may have noticed similar behavior. I always seem to be the first to discover issues because I get my phone early and really test it. Often times, I post something like this and no one replies or reports the same issue, then months later a new thread blows up about it or my thread gets resurrected. I'm just trying to determine if this is a real issue so I can return the phone, if necessary. I can't life with a buggy GPS. I use it way too much.
It takes about 5 seconds to get a gps lock for me. And about another 10 to get the most accurate reception.
This is indoors, just tested it in my bedroom.
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It takes about 5 seconds to get a gps lock for me. And about another 10 to get the most accurate reception.
This is indoors, just tested it in my bedroom.
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Yeah, well thanks, but that's really not the issue here.
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Yeah, well thanks, but that's really not the issue here.
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The topic is gps and initial locking, which I commented that I'm not having the issue.
If the OP is, then it's possible he has a defective device since I don't see that issue.
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The topic is gps and initial locking, which I commented that I'm not having the issue.
If the OP is, then it's possible he has a defective device since I don't see that issue.
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The topic is GPS and occasional initial locking. Mine works fine when it works, but it's situational. Telling me that yours locks fine doesn't help me because mine does too, right now.
I'm trying to see if anyone else is experiencing times when the GPS simply stops working until they toggle it off and back on.
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I was actually just hoping that someone may have noticed similar behavior. I always seem to be the first to discover issues because I get my phone early and really test it. Often times, I post something like this and no one replies or reports the same issue, then months later a new thread blows up about it or my thread gets resurrected. I'm just trying to determine if this is a real issue so I can return the phone, if necessary. I can't life with a buggy GPS. I use it way too much.
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I wasn't being "*****y" at you on purpose. For some reason the Note 4's forums have had a large number of "gate," "OMG!!!," and threads liberally using the royal "we" with much of what's said being baseless or exaggerative. My tone was carry over from the thread on the international forum where a guy launched a "Pen-gate" thread complete with video because his cheap-ass magnetic case was causing S Pen dead spots. So apologies. Notebook Check does thorough GPS testing and their review of the Note 4 should be up soon. Here's a sample from the Xperia Z3 Compact.
They tested the Note 3's GPS here...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-SM-N9005-Smartphone.104798.0.html
I just finished a 1700 MI trip I lost location once but it was in the back woods of Iowa. Much better than the note 3 I owned.
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I wasn't being "*****y" at you on purpose. For some reason the Note 4's forums have had a large number of "gate," "OMG!!!," and threads liberally using the royal "we" with much of what's said being baseless or exaggerative. My tone was carry over from the thread on the international forum where a guy launched a "Pen-gate" thread complete with video because his cheap-ass magnetic case was causing S Pen dead spots. So apologies. Notebook Check does thorough GPS testing and their review of the Note 4 should be up soon. Here's a sample from the Xperia Z3 Compact.
They tested the Note 3's GPS here...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-SM-N9005-Smartphone.104798.0.html
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Thanks, man. It may just be something in my environment or software setup, but it's definitely odd.
I see you on here a lot and I've always found you to be helpful, so no harm no foul.
I was having issues with my phone holding a lock too. It would find satellites, but would keep dropping out every couple of seconds.
I downloaded the "GPS Test" app, updated AGPS data from the settings menu, and now it locks and stays locked 100% of the time. And locks really fast, too.
May not help anyone else, but thought I would share.
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I had a bad GPS chip in my Note 3, it wouldn't get a lock. Seems to work great on my Note4 so far, I use Waze every day driving to and from work.
One thing though is that if you have GPS accuracy set to also use WiFi/mobile networks you will drop GPS a LOT, that was something I noticed as it tried to lock onto WiFi carriers. I turned this off and only use GPS for accuracy and it works perfectly with the usual caveats, tunnels etc.
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That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work at all. It just sort of goes on strike at the same time every night and has to be woken up again.
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I haven't seen this myself. I just checked Google Maps and it displays my location immediately, without my having toggled the GPS today.
So I believe that you're having a hardware problem, but luckily it's not inherent in the Note 4, so you should be able to exchange for one with a properly working GPS.
Okay, guys. I'm an idiot. Turns out that this is all Runtastic. As long as the app is open in the background (during my runs/walks), the GPS icon blinks. Even opening Maps, GPS test, etc. will not give me a solid lock. As soon as I kill Runtastic, though, all is fine. It would seem that this is just how Runtastic uses the GPS and it overrides everything else. I had to do further testing to figure this out, but it would appear that I jumped the gun. For that, I apologize. I'm just glad I don't have to send my Note 4 back.
Thanks to everyone who participated.
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Anyone have GPS Issues. I drive 5 hours a day and notice my GPS loses signal a few minutes and gets it back at least once an hour. I started having GPS issues after I did my update.
intel8140 said:
Anyone have GPS Issues. I drive 5 hours a day and notice my GPS loses signal a few minutes and gets it back at least once an hour. I started having GPS issues after I did my update.
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Same here, even more frequently than that
I am having same exact problem after lollipop update.
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I'm having the same issue after the Lollipop update.
I've had these issues with kitkat, lollipop, and over 6 or 7 replacements (lost count) on both T-Mobile and ATT variants. I've tried using a GPS repeater in my car, I've tried all the software/app fixes, resetting the GPS, etc etc. My suspicion is that it has a weak antenna and loses signal frequently.
It seems Samsung phones are a bit prone to GPS issues. I feel like it's Groundhog Day.
I may have to give up on Samsung and find something different.
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It seems Samsung phones are a bit prone to GPS issues. I feel like it's Groundhog Day.
I may have to give up on Samsung and find something different.
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I actually called att and I told them my GPS was going nuts ( mine would say I was in a different city ) and they sent me a replacement right away. The replacement works great and haven't had any problems with it. It came with android 4.4.4 and I upgraded to 5.0.1 and haven't had any GPS issues at all.
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I actually called att and I told them my GPS was going nuts ( mine would say I was in a different city ) and they sent me a replacement right away. The replacement works great and haven't had any problems with it. It came with android 4.4.4 and I upgraded to 5.0.1 and haven't had any GPS issues at all.
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I'm curious, did you get a new unit or a refurbished one as a replacement? Was the thin chromed frame scratched at all?
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I'm curious, did you get a new unit or a refurbished one as a replacement? Was the thin chromed frame scratched at all?
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It was brand new like not a single scratch at all and it had the stickers like when u get a new phone. Now it didn't come with a battery or with the s pen or the back cover because when u call att they actually tell u " hey make sure u just send the phone back and that's it, keep the pen, the Sim, the micro SD, battery and the back cover."
Hmmm....from what I'm reading here, the GPS issue is not related to the OS upgrade, and that possibly exchanging the phone will result in success.
I was thinking I had red that this started with the OS upgrade. I hadn't used my GPS enough before the upgrade to know.
I guess I'll see if AT&T will exchange mine.
I have the exact same issue. Every 10 minutes or so it just stops updating and takes a minute or two to start tracking me again. It's really frustrating when I'm driving around a city and I can't see the next step in my directions because I'm a mile ahead of it.
Hi all,
I have recently been noticing ghost scrolls, where I would be slowly scrolling downwards, say, in the XDA app or reddit app, and randomly it would scroll quickly upwards when I lift my fingers. I was thinking this was a hardware issue so I got a replacement device on the way. However, I saw this https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7rczu2/scrolling_up_when_scrolling_down/.
Has anyone else been experiencing the same thing? I posted a vid and pic https://imgur.com/a/ny8fT. The second pic is touch input trace enabled in developer options, you can see there was a ghost long fast drag down to the bottom below the navbar.
Have been away from XDA for a while, please let me know if I am going against any rules about posting images hosted on other sites.
I wonder if something like this is what causes Twitter to randomly show me a different tweet when I tap on one. (maybe it's doing a phantom scroll briefly).
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I wonder if something like this is what causes Twitter to randomly show me a different tweet when I tap on one. (maybe it's doing a phantom scroll briefly).
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yep, thats happened to me a few times before as well. Not twitter specifically, but in reddit I would click on a post, and somehow I would end up on some random other post like 2 post below it, and if I hit back once, I get to the post I originally intended to click on instead of the subreddit list.
So there must be some sort of ghost touches/scrolls on finger release, causing the unintended post to be queued up just before the intended one.
I'm surprised there hasn't been more people bringing up this issue (assuming this is indeed a software 8.1 issue and not an isolated issue in the touch panel).
Reddit has done that to me too, come to think of it.
Agreed that it's surprising we aren't hearing more of this. Makes me wonder if I should do a warranty swap.
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Reddit has done that to me too, come to think of it.
Agreed that it's surprising we aren't hearing more of this. Makes me wonder if I should do a warranty swap.
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Yea, I have a replacement device on the way, but after hearing a few others experiencing the same issue, I'm starting to think it might not be a hardware issue after all.
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Yea, I have a replacement device on the way, but after hearing a few others experiencing the same issue, I'm starting to think it might not be a hardware issue after all.
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definitely doesnt sound like a hardware issue.. ive experienced this on more devices than the p2xl and more so on stock.. u also might get it when ur data lags..
on the available custom roms i cant say i remember the last time it occurred.. either way, it cant be that bad to even remotely consider replacing it
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definitely doesnt sound like a hardware issue.. ive experienced this on more devices than the p2xl and more so on stock.. u also might get it when ur data lags..
on the available custom roms i cant say i remember the last time it occurred.. either way, it cant be that bad to even remotely consider replacing it
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Oh really? Have you only experienced this on 8.1 only, or also 8.0? I had the pixel 2 xl back in October/November on 8.0 and didn't experience any of this. I just repurchased the 2 xl several days ago and immediately noticed it within the first few hours of playing around with it.
I think it definitely is a software bug, if not a hardware issue. The touch input trace shows a ghost drag of a perfectly straight line to the bottom of the touch panel with an incredibly high Yv, I got one as high as 179. Normal hard flick scrolling would top out at around 30 or 40, so definitely something fishy going on here, whether it's software or hardware.
It happens for me like between 5 and 10 times within half an hour to an hour, and they are usually annoying enough where I lose my place where I was scrolling.
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Oh really? Have you only experienced this on 8.1 only, or also 8.0? I had the pixel 2 xl back in October/November on 8.0 and didn't experience any of this. I just repurchased the 2 xl several days ago and immediately noticed it within the first few hours of playing around with it.
I think it definitely is a software bug, if not a hardware issue. The touch input trace shows a ghost drag of a perfectly straight line to the bottom of the touch panel with an incredibly high Yv, I got one as high as 179. Normal hard flick scrolling would top out at around 30 or 40, so definitely something fishy going on here, whether it's software or hardware.
It happens for me like between 5 and 10 times within half an hour to an hour, and they are usually annoying enough where I lose my place where I was scrolling.
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prolly 8.1.. i got mine around december late nov. pretty sure its software related.. they had an issue with touch on the lockscreen right?
It seems like so many touch issues with 8.1 release. For this reason, I am still using 8.0.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/phone-by-google/FfzV1578L8Q/1HcWw3CCAQAJ
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
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Yea, I have a replacement device on the way, but after hearing a few others experiencing the same issue, I'm starting to think it might not be a hardware issue after all.
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Any update with the replacement device? I am having the same sporadic ghost scroll: I'll be scrolling down a page on reddit or slickdeals app (happens with other apps as well), and randomly it'll perform a strong up-scroll... I notice it more often when I lay in bed on my side, and have the screen orientation locked to portrait, resting the phone on the bed horizontally...
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Any update with the replacement device? I am having the same sporadic ghost scroll: I'll be scrolling down a page on reddit or slickdeals app (happens with other apps as well), and randomly it'll perform a strong up-scroll... I notice it more often when I lay in bed on my side, and have the screen orientation locked to portrait, resting the phone on the bed horizontally...
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Replacement device has the same issue, so this is definitely a software bug. Hopefully Google fixes it soon in the next patch update.
Nexus 6P here. I started getting these ghost touches with the last security update. 8.1 is the problem, not a solution.
My mom has the same issue of touch on places she doesn't touch, on Pixel XL.
Could it be the same?
Here is a video about it that I took, just by scrolling in the settings screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JCsTuMDvMNHh0CO7sF7yoLFT26uNIhUp/
It's a bit hard to reproduce, but it occurs eventually.
Has anyone tried to use Android P, and see if it helps?
Anyway, I've reported about this here too:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...h-pixel-xl-t3807188/post76879468#post76879468
Any fixes yet?
I know this is old, but I wanted to know if anyone found a fix for this. I eventually found an Oreo 8.1 Rom that I like and this is the only issue that's bothering me.