SM-G965U is it rootable/flashable? - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

Hello, long time no see and i see a lot of things changed here... Especially search to find a clear answer.
I am trying to flash SM-G965U from T-Mobile, is this April Fools joke? https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/root-s9-snapdragon-sm-g965u-t3917134
This site claims TWRP for "SM-G965U/U1/W/0/2/8/SC" works soo...
Am I safe to flash my device?
Thanks in advance.

Technically, it can work. But unlocking your bootloader is the first step. So.... If you can do that then by all means flash twrp.
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klabit87 said:
Technically, it can work. But unlocking your bootloader is the first step. So.... If you can do that then by all means flash twrp.
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Is bootloader unlockable?

speedwie said:
Is bootloader unlockable?
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Not that I'm aware of. Only on exynos and Hong Kong/Latin American variants which are g9600 and g9650.
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klabit87 said:
Not that I'm aware of. Only on exynos and Hong Kong/Latin American variants which are g9600 and g9650.
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ok, so it is true that north american tmobile version of g965u is unloackable.
bummer....

speedwie said:
ok, so it is true that north american tmobile version of g965u is unloackable.
bummer....
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It used to be. But I think ever since the Galaxy S7 all U.S. Samsung models are locked.
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DetectiveTaco said:
The Galaxy S9 US Snapdragon models do not have an unlockable bootloader. This is due to Snapdragon wanting the bootloader of the US variants locked. You would need a international S9+ with an Exynos chip. Which I believe does not work very well on US Cellular networks so you are basically out of luck.
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Almost fully correct. The Hong Kong/Chinese/Latin American models work just fine with a little work. And their snapdragon bootloader can be unlocked. (I have the sm-g9650 s9+)
Also the exynos works fine with some work but will not utilize cdma tech such as 1x/3g signals.
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DetectiveTaco said:
The Galaxy S9 US Snapdragon models do not have an unlockable bootloader. This is due to Snapdragon wanting the bootloader of the US variants locked. You would need a international S9+ with an Exynos chip. Which I believe does not work very well on US Cellular networks so you are basically out of luck.
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what are you talking about? I have an A8 which is strictly in the F model lineup (exynos processor etc etc) and it works just fine here in the USA. LTE and all.
I guess i should say that the 18 year old is now using it. Very capable little phone.
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klabit87 said:
Also the exynos works fine with some work but will not utilize cdma tech such as 1x/3g signals.
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i havent used CDMA in years and i dont miss it lol!! I thought it was HILARIOUS when vzw was putting their commercials out bragging how they have the best cdma network. Specifically bragging about CDMA...... while they used LTE as their data connection, which is GSM based LOL

youdoofus said:
what are you talking about? I have an A8 which is strictly in the F model lineup (exynos processor etc etc) and it works just fine here in the USA. LTE and all.
I guess i should say that the 18 year old is now using it. Very capable little phone.
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i havent used CDMA in years and i dont miss it lol!! I thought it was HILARIOUS when vzw was putting their commercials out bragging how they have the best cdma network. Specifically bragging about CDMA...... while they used LTE as their data connection, which is GSM based LOL
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Yeah unfortunately vzw still uses some cdma. But regardless I still prefer snapdragon processor. Better performance and battery life overall has been my experience.
But there are certain devs and groups that contribute a great deal of work towards making these non-US model devices work on our US carriers.
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klabit87 said:
Yeah unfortunately vzw still uses some cdma. But regardless I still prefer snapdragon processor. Better performance and battery life overall has been my experience.
But there are certain devs and groups that contribute a great deal of work towards making these non-US model devices work on our US carriers.
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OTHER THAN THE ODD lte BAND NOT BEING ENABLED ON THE MODEM, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU REFERRING TO? [email protected] all caps, not changing it, too lazy LOL!!!

youdoofus said:
OTHER THAN THE ODD lte BAND NOT BEING ENABLED ON THE MODEM, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU REFERRING TO? [email protected] all caps, not changing it, too lazy LOL!!!
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The changes we make allow us to use volte, wifi calling, ims, etc. Mostly the carrier specific functions.
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klabit87 said:
The changes we make allow us to use volte, wifi calling, ims, etc. Mostly the carrier specific functions.
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thats just apks baked into the firmware tho. im talking about physically limited things, thats all software limitations
but yes, i also prefer the snapdragon. The processor in the A8 is no slouch tho. Hell, the FFC in the A8 is actually superior to that of the S9. I know why that is and all, its just weird to me

youdoofus said:
thats just apks baked into the firmware tho. im talking about physically limited things, thats all software limitations
but yes, i also prefer the snapdragon. The processor in the A8 is no slouch tho. Hell, the FFC in the A8 is actually superior to that of the S9. I know why that is and all, its just weird to me
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Oh yeah hardware specs are the same
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Is there a model for the S9 that can be used on Verizon and bootloader unlocked? I am thinking about buying one but would like one that can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.

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DetectiveTaco said:
The Exynos international version (I think it's the G960F (S9) and G965F (S9+)) There is a China Snapdragon variant but you probably would be better off picking up a Exynos for the best experience since the G9600 is really only meant for the Chinese market.
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The G9600 and G9650 both work fine in the US. I know several people that use it on Verizon.
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youdoofus said:
thats just apks baked into the firmware tho. im talking about physically limited things, thats all software limitations
but yes, i also prefer the snapdragon. The processor in the A8 is no slouch tho. Hell, the FFC in the A8 is actually superior to that of the S9. I know why that is and all, its just weird to me
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Wrong it's not just apks. But as far a software snapdragon out performs exynos everytime. Didn't mean to put a thank lol. Oh well
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DetectiveTaco said:
The Exynos international version (I think it's the G960F (S9) and G965F (S9+)) There is a China Snapdragon variant but you probably would be better off picking up a Exynos for the best experience since the G9600 is really only meant for the Chinese market.
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Wrong again.... lmfao... on Verizon here with a sm-g9650ds all functions working with unlocked bl. Stop posting incorrect info pls.
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Archangel said:
Is there a model for the S9 that can be used on Verizon and bootloader unlocked? I am thinking about buying one but would like one that can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
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Yes there is. Sm-g9650 s9+ or Sm-g9600 for s9. Works on Verizon with a little work. We have already posted the method
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stang5litre said:
Wrong it's not just apks. But as far a software snapdragon out performs exynos everytime. Didn't mean to put a thank lol. Oh well
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please explain how its not just software differences. Volte, wifi calling etc etc is 100% software related on the S9. Mostly based on the CSC. And i never said that the snapdragon doesnt outperform the Exynos.

youdoofus said:
please explain how its not just software differences. Volte, wifi calling etc etc is 100% software related on the S9. Mostly based on the CSC. And i never said that the snapdragon doesnt outperform the Exynos.
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The reason is you need libs, libs64 etc which is firmware bud.
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Hi, I have the SGN2 N7105 with me now.

I want to dump the rom to use for development purposes but don't know how.
Can anybody teach me?
Man... Just the guy I've been looking for. What type of Lte bands does the device support?
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Is carrier brand device?
Not Possible
wonsanim said:
Is carrier brand device?
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Stop already..............................
ciscostud said:
man... Just the guy i've been looking for. What type of lte bands does the device support?
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800 850 900 1800 1900 2100 2600 2800
Not Me
nascar24usa said:
Stop already..............................
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for what it is worth, I didn't post this.
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Livebyte said:
800 850 900 1800 1900 2100 2600 2800
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If I read this right, the N7105 is international and doesn't have LTE, is that correct?
Livebyte said:
I want to dump the rom to use for development purposes but don't know how.
Can anybody teach me?
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What's the difference between the N7105 and the N7100?
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barondebxl said:
What's the difference between the N7105 and the N7100?
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Some think the 7105 is international with no LTE, but others think the opposite. many would like to know the real answer.............so we know which one to buy, wait for ATT (know that is LTE) or buy earlier the N7100, but only if it has LTE. Some websites call yes to LTE, others don't call out 4G LTE so anyone really know? FCC did a test on N7105 and called out no LTE, which them would make one believe the N7100 will have LTE.
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nascar24usa said:
Some think the 7105 is international with no LTE, but others think the opposite. many would like to know the real answer.............so we know which one to buy, wait for ATT (know that is LTE) or buy earlier the N7100, but only if it has LTE. Some websites call yes to LTE, others don't call out 4G LTE so anyone really know? FCC did a test on N7105 and called out no LTE, which them would make one believe the N7100 will have LTE.
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It supports 800mhz LTE, which is European bands. Use ATT is 700/1700. based upon info, if correct, appears the N7105 is international, which should mean the N7100 is U.S. compatible for 4G LTE, per someone I spoke to who should know.
Livebyte said:
I want to dump the rom to use for development purposes but don't know how.
Can anybody teach me?
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Download quadrant and go to system information and post that screen shot. That with us some useful system info
Wait you said it supports 2.6ghz? Why can't samsung just say the release and models with their bands already.
N7100 = NAM LTE bands
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for what it is worth, I didn't post this.
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If I read this right, the N7105 is international and doesn't have LTE, is that correct?
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You are mistaken.
N7105 has LTE, N7100 does not.
I'm testing this for a carrier here in Singapore which has LTE running on 1.8Ghz and 2.6Ghz band.
antiochasylum said:
Download quadrant and go to system information and post that screen shot. That with us some useful system info
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I can't screenshot as it will expose my identity and I might get fired.
Is there any way I can just dump this thing?
Livebyte said:
I can't screenshot as it will expose my identity and I might get fired.
Is there any way I can just dump this thing?
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Quadrant info page has no "IDENTITY INDICATIONS"! what are you talking about
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Lol
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Another troll seeking attention....
Livebyte said:
You are mistaken.
N7105 has LTE, N7100 does not.
I'm testing this for a carrier here in Singapore which has LTE running on 1.8Ghz and 2.6Ghz band.
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Some stores that have SGN2 "Bånd
WCDMA (UMTS) / GSM 850/900/1800/1900" for the 7100 model. There's no 7105 at all to be found. Granted they may be wrong(also how can both 3G and LTE use 1800mhz?), but you also don't have any proof of actually having the phone. And please explain how a system dump wouldn't reveal you while a screenshot can. I can't understand, there's a lot more to be extracted from a system dump.
Livebyte said:
I can't screenshot as it will expose my identity and I might get fired.
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You don't think maybe your XDA profile linking to your Twitter feed which has a picture of you all over it might do that? If you're legit then you're terrible at hiding your identity and should probably drop this idea before your employer notices.
Medulla said:
You don't think maybe your XDA profile linking to your Twitter feed which has a picture of you all over it might do that? If you're legit then you're terrible at hiding your identity and should probably drop this idea before your employer notices.
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#winning
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Hello, what changes between N7105 and my N7100?

differences between international version vs. t-mobile

Are there any differences? Is the model number of the t-mobile note2 N7100 or not? Thanks guys!
Both devices have the same exact hardware EXCEPT for the following;
the note 2 n7100 (international) has an FM Radio in-built and has only 3G speeds (No LTE Radio built in)
- it is also unlocked, however, no manufacturer warranty if you are buying in the US
the tmobile note 2 (SGH-T889) is carrier locked (can be unlocked for free)
- has a US warranty
- Has LTE but no FM radio
- Carrier-software modifications; T-Mobile today made available a new firmware which allows multi-view (previously disabled)
jerverg said:
Are there any differences? Is the model number of the t-mobile note2 N7100 or not? Thanks guys!
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winlinmac001 said:
Both devices have the same exact hardware EXCEPT for the following;
the note 2 n7100 (international) has an FM Radio in-built and has only 3G speeds (No LTE Radio built in)
- it is also unlocked, however, no manufacturer warranty if you are buying in the US
the tmobile note 2 (SGH-T889) is carrier locked (can be unlocked for free)
- has a US warranty
- Has LTE but no FM radio
- Carrier-software modifications; T-Mobile today made available a new firmware which allows multi-view (previously disabled)
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Thanks for the quick reply. A question though, would the LTE work on countries outside the US? And would i be able to receive future updates too if I am going to use it outside the US?
Correct me if I'm wrong, the inductive charging is also disabled by hardware on the T-Mobile variant. Basically Samsung didn't connect a wire. Lol
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LTE would work depending whether or not that country has the same 4G LTE bands like the US. You will be able to receive future updates too if you are going to use it outside the US.
jerverg said:
Thanks for the quick reply. A question though, would the LTE work on countries outside the US? And would i be able to receive future updates too if I am going to use it outside the US?
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Seriously?
Ghost_1 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the inductive charging is also disabled by hardware on the T-Mobile variant. Basically Samsung didn't connect a wire. Lol
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Screen recording?
How about screen recording? Isn't it only available in the International version?
That's correct; screen recording is not on T-Mobile's Device, Darn
forcefeeld said:
How about screen recording? Isn't it only available in the International version?
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Ghost_1 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the inductive charging is also disabled by hardware on the T-Mobile variant. Basically Samsung didn't connect a wire. Lol
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Lol!!!!!
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forcefeeld said:
How about screen recording? Isn't it only available in the International version?
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From what I understand no one has screen recording due to potential copyright issues (ie. Record Netflix or hulu videos.)
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No networks listed under *#197328640#

Hi everyone,
I have a SCH-R530C with 4.1.2. I want to unlock it to BRING it to T-Mobile. The phone was originally on Cricket. When I use the "*#197328640# etc, etc..." method.. it does not bring up any options under networks. Is there any solution to this?
Thank you!
Downgrade your baseband.
Samsung patched this in 4.1.2
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Thebigghost said:
Hi everyone,
I have a SCH-R530C with 4.1.2. I want to unlock it to BRING it to T-Mobile. The phone was originally on Cricket. When I use the "*#197328640# etc, etc..." method.. it does not bring up any options under networks. Is there any solution to this?
Thank you!
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DocHoliday77 said:
Downgrade your baseband.
Samsung patched this in 4.1.2
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And this goes without saying usually but use a baseband for SCH-530C, NOT a T-Mobile baseband or you might brick.
Ya that makes sense. With the downgrade does it allow me do the method mentioned above. Also, I don't mean to ask for too much.. But can someone point me in the right direction to find it? This model seems rare.
I'm pretty sure you should be in the Verizon forum, or maybe Sprints.
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It would be Verizon. The model number is exactly the same between the two just Cricket has a C - hard to believe they didn't launch with a 4.1.1 ROM though... Let me do a quick search.
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I did the research and MetroPCS uses the same version as cricket. You might try these Odin images from cricket users or post there to see if someone has the original ICS radio or if they know another workaround.
http://www.cricketusers.com/root-re...lashable-cricket-sgs3-touchwiz-firmwares.html
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It would be Verizon. The model number is exactly the same between the two just Cricket has a C - hard to believe they didn't launch with a 4.1.1 ROM though... Let me do a quick search.
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I did the research and MetroPCS uses the same version as cricket. You might try these Odin images from cricket users or post there to see if someone has the original ICS radio or if they know another workaround.
http://www.cricketusers.com/root-re...lashable-cricket-sgs3-touchwiz-firmwares.html
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That's why I mentioned Verizon first. But it seems it may not be so simple any more.
The recently released Straight Talk SCH-S960 belongs in the Sprint forums. I spent a couple of days helping a couple of people find and verify this.
So it probably does belong in the Verizon area, but w/o looking I can't say for sure.
It seems these latest models are all now shipping with 4.1.2. (T999L, SCH-S960, SCH-R530....)
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Oh and the JB 4.1.1 radio should also work. I don't think you need to downgrade all the way to ics.
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DocHoliday77 said:
That's why I mentioned Verizon first. But it seems it may not be so simple any more.
The recently released Straight Talk SCH-S960 belongs in the Sprint forums. I spent a couple of days helping a couple of people find and verify this.
So it probably does belong in the Verizon area, but w/o looking I can't say for sure.
It seems these latest models are all now shipping with 4.1.2. (T999L, SCH-S960, SCH-R530....)
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Oh and the JB 4.1.1 radio should also work. I don't think you need to downgrade all the way to ics.
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It makes sense that the St version is Sprint - all of their Android phones are Sprint. They don't want to pay what At&t and Verizon want for smartphones. Sprint gives em cheap at wholesale.
The R530 seems to be the same for Verizon, MetroPCS, and Us Cellular. From research, the JB update was a 4.1.2 radio - also some are saying that the ICS radio might not even work with that workaround. The MetroPCS version appears to be the exact same as the Cricket version so it should be safe to flash. Emphasis on should.
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EtherealRemnant said:
It makes sense that the St version is Sprint - all of their Android phones are Sprint. They don't want to pay what At&t and Verizon want for smartphones. Sprint gives em cheap at wholesale.
The R530 seems to be the same for Verizon, MetroPCS, and Us Cellular. From research, the JB update was a 4.1.2 radio - also some are saying that the ICS radio might not even work with that workaround. The MetroPCS version appears to be the exact same as the Cricket version so it should be safe to flash. Emphasis on should.
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Right, and that's where the confusion came from. ST was expected to be with Sprint forums, but the SCH, made people think it was Verizon (and a few thought T-Mobile since ST uses their towers in some places apparently). I was just trying to point out that we can't always go by the prefix in the model number anymore. Why they did this.....I wish I knew!
So when they were updated to JB are you saying it skipped 4.1.1? Sorry if I'm getting myself confused or misunderstanding you.
And I'd have to look, but I thought the unlock worked for ics too. But I could be wrong.
Also POSSIBLE, but not recommended, is flashing another models radio. Most of the S3's have the same partition layout. I know several that have flashed other radios w/o bricking. It didn't work, but it didn't hurt anything either. Could it be possible to do this just to unlock, then go back to stock radio?
For example, AT&T users and T-Mobile users have tried each other's radios. All T999 variants can safely flash each other's radios too. They may not work at all, or only partially, but they were able to simply reflash their correct ones. This makes me think that as a last resort it could be attempted. I do not and will not recommend it since I know next to nothing about the 530, but figured I'd throw it out there in case anyone wants to look into it.
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Im confuse isnt it that a CDMA model? Would it actually work with tmobile? Using the global phone hack might help but im not sure.
Also Cricket seems to have similar devices as metropcs. Same hardware too?
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gypsy214 said:
Im confuse isnt it that a CDMA model? Would it actually work with tmobile? Using the global phone hack might help but im not sure.
Also Cricket seems to have similar devices as metropcs. Same hardware too?
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Its the exact same hardware between the two from looking online. And yes its a CDMA phone but to my surprise it has GSM support up to and including HSPA on AWS and LTE!
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Its the exact same hardware between the two from looking online. And yes its a CDMA phone but to my surprise it has GSM support up to and including HSPA on AWS and LTE!
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No kidding?!?
So this is like the mother of all gs3's with the ability to function on just about any network?
Now why couldn't they have just done that in the first place?! (No, you don't need to actually answer that!)
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DocHoliday77 said:
No kidding?!?
So this is like the mother of all gs3's with the ability to function on just about any network?
Now why couldn't they have just done that in the first place?! (No, you don't need to actually answer that!)
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The Us Cellular version actually supports more bands than the Cricket version...
Cricket: Frequencies and Data Type: LTE Dual-band: Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band: 800/AWS/1900MHz*
Us Cellular: Frequencies and Data Type: LTE Quad-band : Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 12 (700MHz) CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band : 800/AWS/1900MHz*
We got ripped for sure.
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I wish one day they will just sale you one hardware with all carriers bands enable and none carrier branded. LTE phones now days uses a sim card to get data and works with calls too. Make it like international here in the us. Buy a phone and your free to use it on any carrier lmao. One hardware for all. No more difference between the international and us. Now newer devices are like that. Like the htc one and the s4 but we still need carrier approval for updates. Also I dont see why carriers have to put bloatware on phones when you can get them on the play store.
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I wish one day they will just sale you one hardware with all carriers bands enable and none carrier branded. LTE phones now days uses a sim card to get data and works with calls too. Make it like international here in the us. Buy a phone and your free to use it on any carrier lmao. One hardware for all. No more difference between the international and us. Now newer devices are like that. Like the htc one and the s4 but we still need carrier approval for updates. Also I dont see why carriers have to put bloatware on phones when you can get them on the play store.
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The biggest issue is all the different frequencies in use... And its going to get worse with the 600 spectrum sale. There are an insane amount of bands and technologies in use.
And then there are companies like Verizon that are anti-consumer... That's not going anywhere.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the S4 was the same as the S3 regarding international vs US. I heard its more compatible between US versions, but not with international since it once again gets the best processor (Exynos octo core) while we get the Qualcomm quad core one. This time we don't even get more memory. Still 2GB.
The international also uses a different graphics processor. Not sure if it's better, but it is different.
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Just saw this and thought I'd share. A newer S4.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE95G05I20130617?irpc=932
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DocHoliday77 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the S4 was the same as the S3 regarding international vs US. I heard its more compatible between US versions, but not with international since it once again gets the best processor (Exynos octo core) while we get the Qualcomm quad core one. This time we don't even get more memory. Still 2GB.
The international also uses a different graphics processor. Not sure if it's better, but it is different.
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Just saw this and thought I'd share. A newer S4.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE95G05I20130617?irpc=932
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The US and most of the world are all on Qualcomm chips in the S4. Korea got the Exynos as did most of Africa and Asia in general while the US, Canada, and Europe all got Qualcomm.
That new S4 would be perfect for T-Mobile once they have lit up full LTE since they're deploying LTE-Advanced out the gate.
EtherealRemnant said:
The US and most of the world are all on Qualcomm chips in the S4. Korea got the Exynos as did most of Africa and Asia in general while the US, Canada, and Europe all got Qualcomm.
That new S4 would be perfect for T-Mobile once they have lit up full LTE since they're deploying LTE-Advanced out the gate.
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ok, I wasn't sure about that, thanks for clarifying it. It's no wonder sales aren't meeting expectations. It's basically the international S3 with US memory! (I know there's more to it, but when you really simplify it....)
I was thinking the same on the new S4. Don't see any indication one way or another if T-Mobile will actually get it though. And oh how I hope we do!
I can potentially see many unhappy original S4 buyers soon! (Look how upset some are over the T999L!)
I'll leave it there on my end, seeing as we are now just a little bit off topic!
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EtherealRemnant said:
The US and most of the world are all on Qualcomm chips in the S4. Korea got the Exynos as did most of Africa and Asia in general while the US, Canada, and Europe all got Qualcomm.
That new S4 would be perfect for T-Mobile once they have lit up full LTE since they're deploying LTE-Advanced out the gate.
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Yeah like I said before.. The US GS4 being able to flash roms from the International is a huge + for me.
How about that iPhone? I always heard that it supports all global bands? If Samsung didnt had several different hardware between the phones like for international and us. It would be easier for them to push updates. And be cheaper for them too.. Not having to work on several hardware difference for an update. Maybe they got that idea and started to make the phones with same hardware like the S4.. I was waiting for fathers day to see if tmobile would have an offer for the s4 and they didnt
gypsy214 said:
Yeah like I said before.. The US GS4 being able to flash roms from the International is a huge + for me.
How about that iPhone? I always heard that it supports all global bands? If Samsung didnt had several different hardware between the phones like for international and us. It would be easier for them to push updates. And be cheaper for them too.. Not having to work on several hardware difference for an update. Maybe they got that idea and started to make the phones with same hardware like the S4.. I was waiting for fathers day to see if tmobile would have an offer for the s4 and they didnt
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T-Mobile's "offer" for the iPhone 5 wasn't even really an offer anyway - its all based on their trade in program now. But they did slash 50 bucks off the S4 until 7/30 when it goes back to 149 down and 20 a month.
As for the iPhone being global, didn't they have some super custom crazy modem made for that though?

Using phone in the United States - LTE BANDS?

What LTE bands does this phone use? I would like to use this phone on T-Mobile.
igotroot said:
What LTE bands does this phone use? I would like to use this phone on T-Mobile.
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Not compatible with LTE. only 2g and 3g
This is sad.
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igotroot said:
What LTE bands does this phone use? I would like to use this phone on T-Mobile.
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from this thread (user was asking about use on AT&T):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/help/look-cool-disappointed-t3632889
That phone band has
2G bandsGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300)
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mydragoon said:
from this thread (user was asking about use on AT&T):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/help/look-cool-disappointed-t3632889
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See here
venugopalu007 said:
See here
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Is this only in Honor 8 Pro?
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adriansticoid said:
Is this only in Honor 8 Pro?
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I don't know about other devices
venugopalu007 said:
I don't know about other devices
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They could've just made it compatible to T-Mobile.
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adriansticoid said:
They could've just made it compatible to T-Mobile.
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Customers suffer due to this
venugopalu007 said:
Customers suffer due to this
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Yeah. They lost some customers because of this.
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adriansticoid said:
Yeah. They lost some customers because of this.
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also, they lost some more because of Variants 64GB &128 GB , Y they Do like Oneplus which has single variant for all .
venugopalu007 said:
also, they lost some more because of Variants 64GB &128 GB , Y they Do like Oneplus which has single variant for all .
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I was also very confused by this from the start.
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actually, this is kinda puzzling for Honor considering from what I understand, Honor is meant to be Huawei's way to go into the US market, besides also being the "affordable" brand. but, they don't have the bands needed for many of the US carriers...
and the phones that do have the bands... they don't have the "flagship" specs...
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venugopalu007 said:
also, they lost some more because of Variants 64GB &128 GB , Y they Do like Oneplus which has single variant for all .
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oneplus didn't start this way too... they only have one variant for their latest one -- the oneplus 5.
i guess many phone manufacturers still need to have separate brands to cater to carriers that may want customisation and indirectly lock down the devices so the owners can't just move from one carrier to another (or one region to another -- parallel imports).
but yes, long term, i don't think this is good ans healthy for consumers.
mydragoon said:
actually, this is kinda puzzling for Honor considering from what I understand, Honor is meant to be Huawei's way to go into the US market, besides also being the "affordable" brand. but, they don't have the bands needed for many of the US carriers...
and the phones that do have the bands... they don't have the "flagship" specs...
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Very ironic if you ask me.
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oneplus didn't start this way too... they only have one variant for their latest one -- the oneplus 5.
i guess many phone manufacturers still need to have separate brands to cater to carriers that may want customisation and indirectly lock down the devices so the owners can't just move from one carrier to another (or one region to another -- parallel imports).
but yes, long term, i don't think this is good ans healthy for consumers.
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what is doing by honor is not good, have to change and build one variant for all
hopefully they will have a US release with T-Mobile bands.
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hopefully they will have a US release with T-Mobile bands.
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We're all hoping man.
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This is a bummer and I'm pretty peeved that this fact was not mentioned on any sites showing specs or in any of the reviews. I live in Europe and was fully expecting my Honor 8 Pro to work on 4G mostly everywhere. Will the Honor 8 Pro work in the states on 3G/UMTS/HSDPA? Can I expect to get Internets speeds of about 42 MB/s?
Mister-B said:
This is a bummer and I'm pretty peeved that this fact was not mentioned on any sites showing specs or in any of the reviews. I live in Europe and was fully expecting my Honor 8 Pro to work on 4G mostly everywhere. Will the Honor 8 Pro work in the states on 3G/UMTS/HSDPA? Can I expect to get Internets speeds of about 42 MB/s?
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May be you can get .
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May be you can get .
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4g should work, but speeds are not expectable

pre purchase question, need advice

Hello, I was browsing the ROMs section on XDA for the s 20 plus exynos that I want to purchase and I can see that there is only one custom rom available. Why is that?
tzic said:
Hello, I was browsing the ROMs section on XDA for the s 20 plus exynos that I want to purchase and I can see that there is only one custom rom available. Why is that?
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Because the Snapdragon models are not able to have the bootloader unlocked so there's only the Exynos models.
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Trina9 said:
Because the Snapdragon models are not able to have the bootloader unlocked so there's only the Exynos models.
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ok thank you, but for the Exynos version there is only 1 custom rom available? or am I looking to the wrong sub forum?
tzic said:
ok thank you, but for the Exynos version there is only 1 custom rom available? or am I looking to the wrong sub forum?
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I have no idea since I have a Snapdragon version and don't follow what ROMs are available.
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To be honest...it baffles me a bit but it's not as urgent as it once was for custom ROMs. Plus the cameras are mostly an assache with Samsung's. A pure android ROM would speed through it on these phones but I can't see it happening if it hasn't already
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Because the Snapdragon models are not able to have the bootloader unlocked so there's only the Exynos models.
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Not so, Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, South Korea and I think Latin America all offer Snapdragon variants with unlockable bootloaders.
varcor said:
Not so, Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, South Korea and I think Latin America all offer Snapdragon variants with unlockable bootloaders.
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Pretty sure only Canadian and US snapdragon varients are bootloader locked ..

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