The original charger can charge faster than the 45W charger with the right cable? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion

I have information regarding the Note 10+'s 45W charging ability. I just completed my own charging speed comparison. I depleted two Note 10+'s and am charging them from 0 with the phones powered off. One is on the 45W charger and the cable it comes with. The other is on the original Note 10+ charger, BUT is using an aftermarket USB 3.1 Gen 2 C to C cable. The results are VERY surprising!
At around 7 minutes, the 45W charger jumped out ahead at about 23% while the original charger was around 15%. Somewhere between that 7 minute timeframe and 15 minutes though, the original charger caught up. At 15 minutes both phones were at 36%.
Here's where it gets interesting though. At 30 minutes, the original charger actually pulled ahead of the 45W charger! The 45W was at 65%, while the original charger was at 69%.
At 45 minutes, the 45W charger closed the gap ever so slightly, with it being at 83% while the original charger was at 86%.
At 60 minutes, the gap closed a bit more. The 45W charger turned in a charging percentage of 95% , while the original charger had a percentage of 96%
At 67 minutes, the original charger reached 100%, while the 45W charger was a little behind at 97%. The 45W charger would then finally reach 100% 2 minutes later ( a total of 69 minutes).
In summary, I found that with a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable, the original Note 10+ charger is capable of the same charging speeds (actually slightly faster) as the 45W charger.

Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??

Sounds more like a faulty battery for me

Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?

Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?

And could you repeat the test but swap the carger for the device (the one with orig charger gets 45w), just to make sure it isn't a phone "problem"

Dolgogi said:
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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That's actually what I intend to do when I finish depleting the battery. I'm hypothesizing that the charge time will likely not be any different than with the cable the 45W comes with, as I'm guessing that cable is likely a USB 3.1 gen 2 cable. I'm guessing the cable that comes with the original charger is probably a gen 1 cable (just a theory).

blake .l said:
Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??
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WDawn said:
Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?
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I used these cables.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F3HVYTJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Dolgogi said:
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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I just completed it with the other cable in the 45W charger, and the results were almost the same (it reached 100% at 64 minutes) as they were with the cable that comes with it (pictures attached). Looks like the charger that comes with the Note 10+ is capable of more than we gave it credit for. We just have to make sure we're using a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable with it.

I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?

Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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It's not a stupid question lol. But yes, I have it enabled. Most of the other 45W tests I've seen have had results comparable to my 45W test. There seems to be a pronounced slow down towards the end. I don't know why Floss' test came out the way it did, but I can't replicate that on my two devices, and I haven't seen 50 minutes elsewhere either.

I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.

The generation version only increase the bandwidth capability of the cable and should not have anything to do with charging.
If I'm not wrong, there should be something with the stock 45W cable to enable faster charge since it must goes beyond official USB-C specs.
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The other thing to take in consideration with newly discovery made here is that the official battery capacity can be between 4170 and 4300 mAh.

ran816 said:
I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.
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The cable also has to be 5A and yours might not be. And use the cable that came with each charger (or 5A).
It's harder to find longer cables that meet all the specs but I bought several of these and they've been terrific...
USB C to USB C Cable 5A Fast Charging, CableCreation 10ft USB C to C Cable,Support 100W Power Delivery (PD), Compatible with MacBook(Pro) 15-inch, Google Pixel 3XL, Samsung Note 8 & More,3M/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZWUNCH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DtpWDbMVWMT3Z
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Are you doing this with the the device off? Try leaving the devices on and see what happens. I know between 1-80% it goes a lot faster with the 45W charger over the 25W charger. The ET I don't bother following them because it's an estimate not a constant.

Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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Flossy results are about the same as mine. Right under an hour from 0-100% and roughly 50 mins from like 10-15% to full. I am happy with that. Using a 10 ft cable as well not the factory Samsung charger

Man your chargers are both charging at 25W, 45W charging should last from 0% to 100% about 60 minutes, many finish in 58/59 minutes

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Charger Concerns

I see that the wall charger for the Galaxy Nexus outputs 5V and 1A. Unfortunately, none of the extra chargers I'd like to use as additional chargers have this output. Some of them are 5.1V, and some of them all put out under 1A.
From what I understand, using a charger w/ a higher voltage could potentially damage the phone. I know that this unlikely considering it's only an extra .1V in my case, but I don't want to risk it.
As for the amps, I believe that using lower amps isn't dangerous, but may result in charging taking longer than normal.
Are these two assumptions correct? Also, does anyone know of any cheap chargers that put out 5V/1A? If you put in "phone charger" in Amazon, the second hit is a Samsung OEM charger that puts out 5V/0.7A, but I'd rather get one that is going to be an exact match.
700-800mah are fine and acceptable for charging. But if wanting to play games on a charger and still get some kind of charge, go with a 1000 mah charger. 1000 mah charger is also best to use while using mhl so you can hopefully not lose battery charge while streaming video over hdmi.
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong country.
Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
Dmw017 said:
Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Micro-Travel-Charger-M540/dp/B002HJBM04
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Travel-Charger-Adapter-MicroUSB/dp/B0049IE70I
Dmw017 said:
Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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I'm using a Griffin charger for the iPhone (1 amp)... it's very small and the plug blades fold up, making it very pocketable. Give the included iPhone cable to a friend.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-NA231...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322795627&sr=1-33
alee said:
I'm using a Griffin charger for the iPhone (1 amp)... it's very small and the plug blades fold up, making it very pocketable. Give the included iPhone cable to a friend.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-NA231...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322795627&sr=1-33
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it's.. 24 bucks ... for a charger..
lol fml
Dmw017 said:
it's.. 24 bucks ... for a charger..
lol fml
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Haha, it's a nice charger.
If you don't get that one, do get a charger that does at least 700mA... or ideally 1A. Some of the cheaper chargers don't put out a lot of power and it will take a long time to charge your phone.
alee said:
Haha, it's a nice charger.
If you don't get that one, do get a charger that does at least 700mA... or ideally 1A. Some of the cheaper chargers don't put out a lot of power and it will take a long time to charge your phone.
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...you say it folds too huh :/ ....
but for that price, i wonder if there are any samsung chargers that are just as good if not better..
that is Apple, after all
hey isnt http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...al-USB-Charging/dp/B004EYH5WY/ref=pd_sim_e_10 the same product , it says it does 5 volts at 5 watts ... thats the same right?
edit: some people are reporting that the charger only charges at 0.5A instead of the full 1A on [some] android devices. if you have the charger, can you confirm your nexus charges at the full 1A watts
I've been doing fine with just plugging it into my computer like I always do with every other phone.
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hey isnt http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...al-USB-Charging/dp/B004EYH5WY/ref=pd_sim_e_10 the same product , it says it does 5 volts at 5 watts ... thats the same right?
edit: some people are reporting that the charger only charges at 0.5A instead of the full 1A on [some] android devices. if you have the charger, can you confirm your nexus charges at the full 1A watts
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Same one.
Good question on whether it's putting out a full 1A. I guess what I do is check the charge times tomorrow with a few different 1A chargers to see if it measures up.
I use this for home:
http://www.amazon.com/Cellet-Charger-Retractable-Cable-myTouch/dp/B004XVM1T0
And this for the car:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q
Both are dual-USB and put out 1amp. Charges my GNEX and iPhone 4 (work) at the same time without issues.
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
assisterah said:
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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I've read that the wall charger drops the battery down to 90ish % after it hits 100% and just goes between the two levels until you unplug your charger
While a USB charge is slower and charges your device up to a "fuller" charge
...I may be unfathomably wrong though
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man that little Apple charger is so damn cute ... lol , ill probably end up buying it once the 1A volt charge is confirmed
edit: just bought it lol, oh well.. it will probably maybe more or less somewhat possibly work like it should at 1A :}
assisterah said:
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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I'm not an expert on the subject but I was under the impression that cycles (charge + discharge) were a bigger factor on battery life than something like this. The longer a current is running through the battery (charge or discharge) is detrimental to it's life span.
Leaving a laptop plugged in all the time ruins its battery is my source on this one. I would say it's because it has a constant charge running through the battery.
qreffie said:
I've been doing fine with just plugging it into my computer like I always do with every other phone.
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That takes a lot longer vs plugging it into the wall
rashad1 said:
That takes a lot longer vs plugging it into the wall
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True dat. Unless it has changed , USB only outputs 500mA.
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[hfm] said:
True dat. Unless it has changed , USB only outputs 500mA.
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500mA is the max before the PC will disable the port. So your actually get less current.
There are some ports, depending on the motherboard that have a option of outputting more power for charging devices, and also have the port powered when the computer is off. But a normal usb 2.0 port is limited to 500mA max per spec... so a normal usb 2.0 port charging a phone is drawing less then 500mA, or it would get and over current condition and disable the port.
I design electronics and work with USB and batteries often, so let me clear some stuff up in no particular order:
- PC ports are limited to 500mA so will only ever output a max of 500mA
- You can use a wall charger that outputs 1000mA but on most devices the data pins on the micro USB need to be shorted to tell the phone it can try to draw more than 500mA. This is true for HTC devices for example. That means if you get a cheap charger that doesn't short the data pins, when you plug your standard micro-usb cable into it, it will still only charge your phone at 500mA.
- The charging controller is actually in the phone. It decides based on temperature (there's a sensor in the battery), current, voltage across the battery (current charge) and characteristics of the type of battery to figure out how much current to allow into the battery. Although its true that a 500mA charger may have different affects than 1000mA chargers, there usually is very little perceivable difference. Which is (slightly) better really depends on the charging controller and how it decides when to stop charging.
- When the battery is full, the phone continues to 'trickle charge' for a period of time. This isn't a bad thing. Overcharging a Lithium battery can be extremely dangerous, so normal charging occurs at a high speed and then slows down at a safe limit below the 'true' 100%. After that the phone continues to trickle charge to top up the battery. This is the reason you read in phone manuals you should charge the phone for 8 hours or overnight for its first charge.
- When charging at 500mA, the battery does not get as hot. This usually means you get closer to the true 100% before 'trickle charging' starts. With a 1000mA charge the battery heats up a lot more so charging may switch to trickle much sooner. Here's an example with made up figures.
Lets say you charge your battery with a 500mA charger, and it takes 2 hours. When the phone shows 100% it may actually be at 99%, and trickle charging. Leaving it for another 30 mins may take it to its full capacity.
Now, lets say you charge your battery with a 1000mA charger, and it takes 1 hour. When the phone shows 100% it may actually be at 98%, and trickle charging - It stopped sooner because the battery was hotter. Leaving it for another 30 mins may take it to full capacity.
Conclusion.. the 500mA charger took 2.5 hours, while the 1000mA charger took 1.5 hours. However if you unplugged both when the phone showed 100%, the 500mA charged battery may last longer, and so you think the 500mA somehow resulted in a more thorough charge!
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter which you use. the absolute charge cycles is what counts. Charge to 100%, then dont charge till its 0 for best battery care. Constantly plugging into a charger or dock all day on and off is bad. But having said that, your phone is there to be used, so a sensible balance of the two is the best bet.
Thank you so much for the detailed response, kam187. Would you recommend avoiding using a 5.1V charger, considering the phone came with a 5V charger?
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I wouldn't use it. The 0.1v probably won't make any difference, but it may not be regulated. Chargers with these odd values sometimes don't have any regulator inside them. That could damage your phone as the voltage could shoot up and down as the current draw changes.
Just search amazon/ebay for any MicroUSB charger, and pick one from a reputable manufacturer like Motorola, HTC, Samsung etc. Since all phones now use MicroUSB, there's loads of these chargers around from previous phone models etc.
Here's just one I saw on amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Trave...E70I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322808220&sr=8-3

How fast is Qi charging?

I received the Nillkin Magic Disk charger I ordered a few days ago.
It's the first wireless charger I have owned or tried. I have the disk connected to what is supposed to be a 5V / 2A adapter.
It took 7 hours to fully charge my Nexus 5 from 6% with the Magic Disk. This seems like way to long to me and if it's normal, this severely limits the usefulness of wireless charging. Neither the charger nor the phone seemed to get warm at all during charging
How fast is wireless charging supposed to be? Does this vary between different types of Qi chargers?
Felchy said:
I received the Nillkin Magic Disk charger I ordered a few days ago.
It's the first wireless charger I have owned or tried. I have the disk connected to what is supposed to be a 5V / 2A adapter.
It took 7 hours to fully charge my Nexus 5 from 6% with the Magic Disk. This seems like way to long to me and if it's normal, this severely limits the usefulness of wireless charging. Neither the charger nor the phone seemed to get warm at all during charging
How fast is wireless charging supposed to be? Does this vary between different types of Qi chargers?
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Should be much faster than that, about half an hour longer than stock wired charging with the Nexus 5 adapter/cable.
~2.5 to a little over 3 hours depending on the charger.
If you are using a decent 2A adapter with your charger, it may be your USB cable. Some cables out there are quite crap and despite using a high amp adapter will keep the settings as USB (as if you're plugged into a computer port) and charge at around 500mA max if you're lucky.
In your case, the USB cable may be doing that, and severely underpowering your Qi charger, which will end up charging your phone at like 300 - 350mA. Stock wired by the way charges at ~1050mA by comparison. This could explain why your charge times are over 3x as long.
If you have your stock USB cable that came with your Nexus 5, try testing it with that to see if there is an improvement.
Mine charges at 600mA.
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bradputt said:
Mine charges at 600mA.
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My Nexus 5 charges at roughly 1000mA with its wall charger. So I guess wireless will be 40% less efficient...
hOrnizuka said:
My Nexus 5 charges at roughly 1000mA with its wall charger. So I guess wireless will be 40% less efficient...
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Depends on the Qi charger and its output. Efficiency is generally around 70 - 75%.
I have a few 1A Qi chargers, and they charge at roughly 740 - 760mA when charging at full speed.

How many amps will the G4 draw when charging at 5V?

I know this phone is Quick Charge 2 capable, but does that apply only to high voltage charging, or also to standard 5V?
I ask because I bought a 3.1A charger, and though the phone was almost dead, it didn't charge any faster than the 1.8A charger that came with the phone. Is the charger defective, or will this phone just not draw 3.1A at 5V?
QC2.0 is 9V at 1.2-1.3A.
Normal 5V is at around 1.7-1.9A only.
It will not draw anything more than what's above. FWIW, IMO, QC2.0 doesn't make a huge difference
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QC2.0 is 9V at 1.2-1.3A.
Normal 5V is at around 1.7-1.9A only.
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Thanks. So QC is only a protocol for changing voltages, it has nothing to do with negotiating or handling a higher current draw?
fenstre said:
Thanks. So QC is only a protocol for changing voltages, it has nothing to do with negotiating or handling a higher current draw?
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QC is a protocol for allowing a maximum possible current draw at a predefined voltage. Just because you have a higher possible current supply from a charger it doesn't mean that the G4 will draw more.
E.g. G4 can only draw 1.8A a 5V. If you use a 1A charger, it can only draw 1A but if you use a 2A charger it will only be able to draw 1.8A and not the full 2A.
This phone is **** at charging 1% every 3mins at best. I'm at 44% 23 degrees Celsius and it says 2hour 4min to 100%. Ampere shows its only drawing 480ma on a 2A charger. Three cables.. Note 4 cable, Stock cable and a high quality third-party cable all the same. The cables work fine as they charge to Note 4 quick and a Tab 3.
I give up. I even put this LG poss on ICE to 18 degrees Celsius but still same crap. Night charging for me then. Even Note 4 quick charger can't help it.
Nice phone for sure but I'm going back to Samsung next upgrade, sorry LG.
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skyelm said:
This phone is **** at charging 1% every 3mins at best. I'm at 44% 23 degrees Celsius and it says 2hour 4min to 100%. Ampere shows its only drawing 480ma on a 2A charger. Three cables.. Note 4 cable, Stock cable and a high quality third-party cable all the same. The cables work fine as they charge to Note 4 quick and a Tab 3.
I give up. I even put this LG poss on ICE to 18 degrees Celsius but still same crap. Night charging for me then. Even Note 4 quick charger can't help it.
Nice phone for sure but I'm going back to Samsung next upgrade, sorry LG.
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Laters.
skyelm said:
This phone is **** at charging 1% every 3mins at best. I'm at 44% 23 degrees Celsius and it says 2hour 4min to 100%. Ampere shows its only drawing 480ma on a 2A charger. Three cables.. Note 4 cable, Stock cable and a high quality third-party cable all the same. The cables work fine as they charge to Note 4 quick and a Tab 3.
I give up. I even put this LG poss on ICE to 18 degrees Celsius but still same crap. Night charging for me then. Even Note 4 quick charger can't help it.
Nice phone for sure but I'm going back to Samsung next upgrade, sorry LG.
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What. You're using a **** charger. Get a proper charger. I know because I've tried mine on a **** charger, a Samsung Charger and an ASUS QC2.0 Charger. Nobody has the problems but you.
lambstone said:
What. You're using a **** charger. Get a proper charger. I know because I've tried mine on a **** charger, a Samsung Charger and an ASUS QC2.0 Charger. Nobody has the problems but you.
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Ok... Note 4 charger, Tab 3 charger and Stock charger all sh#t chargers? Hmmmm OK.
My supposed sh#t chargers work fine on other phones. I guess i bought a sh#t phone. Anyway love the phone hate the charging. Cheers
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Proper cable. Settled:good:
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I guess i bought a sh#t phone.
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It does sound defective, unfortunately. Mine charges at up to 1%/minute, and that's without a QC 2.0 charger.
I use LG stock charger and a third party 2.1A charger to charge, Ampere shows that it has around 1000 mah. Apart from the charger, the charging cable quality do affect the result too. Try to swap cable and test again.
IMO﹐stock charger with 5V 1.8A can charge quite fast with 2+ hours to fully charged from 0 to 100%, no need to go for QC2.0.
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I have found that my Original Samsung 2.1A charger sucks for the G4. Somehow it knows its a Samsung and doesnt want to provide anything over 1A. That charger charges at 2A my Galaxy S4. It takes like 3-4 hours to full charge from under 15%.
My LG G4 charges fkn fast with the original one and a Tronsmart QC charger. 1% every minute.

how to get more speed charging?

hi guys,
i have two chargers,
1. output 9.0V 1.67A or 5.0V 2.0A
2. output 5.2V 2.4A
and a usb-c cable, in the cable box i find that this cable is supporting for fast charging and support to 2.4A but when i tried it with the two chargers, and test it using 'ampere' app i got max to 1010mA with both chargers adapter ! even with this value i feel it charging my mobile quickly, and in the bottom of the lock screen i see 'charging rapidly' but i want more and why the phone is not charged depending on the values in the chargers (1.67A - 2.0A - 2.4A) and cable (2.4A)
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There's nothing I can help you guys with. All I can tell you is what ratings your charger should have, based upon the information printed on the pair of chargers I received with my device when I purchased it directly from Google. If you have a genuine Google charger and the P2XL is still not charging fast, contact Google.
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
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Unfortunately, i hope someone could help
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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maybe your opinion is right. my next experiment is from 0% to 100% with the old charger and with the stock charger, then i will see if there is a difference
tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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That makes sense then, it seems like everything gets more complicated every year.
I just purchased one of these from Amazon. Note that it supports Power Delivery 3.0. This unit quick charges my phone. The Moto Charger I have for my old Moto G5+ which is a Qualcomm charger will charge the phone but only at slow speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H6BQNGF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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i bought this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570
what do you think ?
If it is really the OEM parts that will work. The pictures look like mine, but ya know eBay....

25w car charger

Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Try any type from Anker. As long as it has qualcomm fast charging, it is fast enough. Only a couple minutes behind stock samsung charger.
I have advice for you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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I think you should go to the stores and look for them, they have lots and their staff will advise you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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I actually got it too from ebay and can confirm it works just like the original charger, I think it might be actually charging up to 45w.
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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The charger said 26.2V, 9.32V and, 2.75A and its able to support 15V at 3A and 20V at 2.25
Supplying 24V to the Baseus car charger, it only supplied 9.32V X 2.75A = 25.63‬Watts which is about the same just using 12V
My current cable only supports PD 2.0 60W, 3 Amps
The 100W cable says it can do PD 2.0 with Gen2 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_52
Not all cables are the same. But i'm calling this as a good 25Watt charger with cable combo just untill it burns out
Its pretty crazy that Samsung chose the latest PD 3.0 variant with PPS, requiring the odd 10V at 4.5A. Clever heat management, but until now I came up empty finding the exact supporting charger other than the Samsung original who also seems to have its challenges. This article is pretty clear https://www.gsmarena.com/dont_just_..._for_the_samsung_galaxy_note10-news-38837.php
Not that I really would want such a fast charger to become my daily driver, fearing added wear on the battery, but for the rare occasion where I really need juice and do not have a powerbank handy, following if the community finds any solution.

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