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I will probably buy a OnePlus 5T soon, but I really don't need such a high end phone that is so big.
If you had to buyer another phone that had great community support, but didn't cost quite so much, which would it be?
Things which are important to me:
- The open-source/ROM/modding/dev community = mandatory requirement.
- Headphone jack = mandatory requirement.
- SDCard would be nice.
- Removable/user-serviceable battery would be nice.
- Battery life.
Things that I don't like about newer phones, or are not important to me:
- TOO BIG. Fat phones can't fit in my pocket anymore!
- TOO THIN. Lower battery life, more breakable, higher price, makes no sense.
- Removal of the headphone jack. Pure greed and evil.
- OEM ROMs and OEM features: Will never use it anyway.
Just to be clear, cost isn't an issue. I'd gladly pay more if I could get a thicker OnePlus 5T with a removable battery and sdcard slot. I'd pay $1000 for that phone no problem, but it doesn't exist. The problem is the lack of value in buying a thinner, fragile, featureless phone.
Thank you
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OnePlus 3T would be an obviously great choice is price alone was my concern, but it's not. Still a good option.
The Moto G5 Plus and G5S Plus look like good options; they have an sdcard slot, but no removable battery. Great QCA SoC and community support on them. Cost less than half what a OnePlus 5T does.
Removable battery and SD Card slots aren't very popular among manufacturers these days. So a device that fits all of these is hard to find.
My vote, though, would go to the OnePlus 3T.
I'd get the Huawei Mate 10 light which is around 280 €. But I also must say I would never bother with anything below 5.8 inches.
Don't know about other countries but in India Xiaomi just launched Redmi note 5 pro. Check it out.
Edit: it cost around 214$.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Great comments so far. Thanks everyone.
Xaiomi Redmi Note 5 Pro looks really good with it's sdcard slot, much better price/value, and a good SoC. I'm not a fan of Xaiomi though: long-term GPL violator and anti-OSS company. Very anti-moral Chinese company. Still, the phone looks good.
OnePlus 3T would be a great option if price alone was my concern, but I money isn't an issue for me.
Any modern SoC would probably be fast enough for my needs, so long as it has good OSS/community dev support. I don't need more than 4GB of RAM.
I really wish there was a phone with dual USB C ports, one on each side. That would take care of the phone jack issue too.
Xiaomi redmi note 5 pro will be a big seller and I expect a huge custom rom community.
Anyone have opinions on the LG G6? It's been out for a few months now.
I agree that Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro has stupid-good specs and price. I will look at it very much, even though I don't trust or like Xiaomi at all. Are they releasing source code for it? Xiaomi has been bad about that in the past.
EDIT: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is out of the question. Has no LTE bands I can use (4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300), 41(2500)), and the sources are not out and probably will not be out for months, if ever. New SoC and nobody has DTS or sources yet. Might be popular in India and a few other countries, but not this side of the globe. With so few bands on it, I don't think it will be very popular.
I would try the Moto lineup if you want like a mid grade phone that works well. Pretty sure they meet most of what you are looking for.
have a look at bq aquaris x pro battery is not removable but at decent size
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Anyone have opinions on the LG G6? It's been out for a few months now.
I agree that Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro has stupid-good specs and price. I will look at it very much, even though I don't trust or like Xiaomi at all. Are they releasing source code for it? Xiaomi has been bad about that in the past.
EDIT: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is out of the question. Has no LTE bands I can use (4G bandsLTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300), 41(2500)), and the sources are not out and probably will not be out for months, if ever. New SoC and nobody has DTS or sources yet. Might be popular in India and a few other countries, but not this side of the globe. With so few bands on it, I don't think it will be very popular.
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1st of all LTE bands depends on countries. Wait for it to launch globally. 2nd Xiaomi release source code within 15 days if device is running on miui which Redmi note 5 pro already is.
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Hello everyone,
I would be interested in the version with the 20mp camera and 6gb of ram.
Unfortunately I noticed that this version is not sold with the banada 20 (800) and is only in the CN version.
Do you expect me to wait? do you think will release the version that I would like to take?
Or I take the CN version trying to put the International / Global ROM and to unlock the band 20 (800)?
What do you recommend?
Thank you
Using a global rom does not "unlock" B20. Global version and global rom is not the same thing. Unfortunately people keep getting confused about that. (Well I mean it is confusing to a general user.)
Chinese version (of the device) comes with the bands they use, the hardware it has does not support B20. You have to wait until Xiaomi release the global version of the device, then you'll have the B20 you need.
As far as I know global version of the rom is only global because it contains all the languages, not just chinese (correct me if I am wrong).
There are some good news
https://mobile.twitter.com/rquandt/status/973921734268276736?ref_
Good news is relative...
Very expensive compared to the price in other markets and no 6/64GB version. With this price, no need for redmi note 5 pro, pay a little bit more and you get xiaomi mi note 3 and others... (with 6/64GB and even 6/128GB, hope there will be a band 20 version soon)
Bib_x said:
Good news is relative...
Very expensive compared to the price in other markets and no 6/64GB version. With this price, no need for redmi note 5 pro, pay a little bit more and you get xiaomi mi note 3 and others... (with 6/64GB and even 6/128GB, hope there will be a band 20 version soon)
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The chance that mi note 3 gets band 20 is near zero. Mi note 3 is also missing 3.5mm jack and there is nearly no development.
For 270€ the note 5 pro would be perfect for me, every other phone has some deal breakers like no development, small battery or something else
Hello everyone, I'm sorry to reopen this discussion but ...... is it possible that they sold this version: "xiaomi redmi note 5 6gb (Cam 12 + 5/13) with band 20 (800)?"
sorry to bring this thread up again but I'm looking for the 6GB/64GB redmi note 5 version myself. (not for me though).
pdadb does list it as band 20 here:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...te_64gb_meg7s__xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs
but all sites who sell them don't list enough specifications if its truly the global version.
so this is all really confusing. I don't want to end up ordering a 6GB version without Band 20.
can anyone find any indication that the following sites has the correct version?
https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xia...nch-6GB-64GB-Smartphone-Rose-Gold-393535.html
(yes needs to be rose gold. it will be a present.)
also does anyone know what image sensor the devices comes with?
I have the same problem.
I would like to take this LINK version but I do not find feedback on the internet.
6gb ram with band 20 (800) ?! does anyone know if this version really exists?
Guys I am not sure but I think the global version with band 20, it comes only with 3/4 GB ram
how to check if the phone really has the hardware and facility to support those mentioned GSM, LTE bands etc?
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
Hunteres said:
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
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How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
gsmyth said:
How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
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Its good...i mean i notice no difference between galasy s8 and note 5 pro..i am using bose qc20.... i mean i am really impressed....
I have the black version.... Case is a must...so you wont notice the back.... But its solid good build..not some wobley design...its really sturdy.
Hunteres said:
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
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I have 6GB-64GB version whyred and bought it from AliExpress, this is indeed Global as it has front 13MB camera and rear dual cameras.
gsmyth said:
How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
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jdwis said:
I have 6GB-64GB version whyred and bought it from AliExpress, this is indeed Global as it has front 13MB camera and rear dual cameras.
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Sorry but its chinese model flashed with global rom.. no band 20. Read description of the sale....it clearly says so...i know alli very well...
Thanks for effort.
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Mate 20X 5G EVR-N29 & EVR-AN00 EMUI 10/Android 10 Release & Experience Questions
Hi! I am in the process of getting my new Mate 20x 5G EVR-N29 despite its disadvantages over the 4G version and would like to know if the EMUI 10/Android 10 Update is released or releasing anytime soon.
Also, please share your experience and bugs as well as there does not seem to be any dedicated threads for this device.
Not sure why but hope this will change as I think there should be dedicated sub-forums for this model to help users with device specific guidance, customisations and news.
In particular, I would like to know if display density reset issue remains or whether call recording can be enabled by default on EVR-N29.. Comments on Battery Life, Loudness of Speakers, M-Pen use and 5G performance also welcome.
AWFRONT said:
Hi! I am in the process of getting my new Mate 20x 5G EVR-N29 despite its disadvantages over the 4G version and would like to know if the EMUI 10/Android 10 Update is released or releasing anytime soon.
Also, please share your experience and bugs as well as there does not seem to be any dedicated threads for this device.
Not sure why but hope this will change as I think there should be dedicated sub-forums for this model to help users with device specific guidance, customisations and news.
In particular, I would like to know if display density reset issue remains or whether call recording can be enabled by default on EVR-N29.. Comments on Battery Life, Loudness of Speakers, M-Pen use and 5G performance also welcome.
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may i ask why u went for the 5G version? summary of disadvantages:
- smaller battery
- no stereo speakers (earphone is now used as second speaker, thus unequal loudness)
- no 3.5 mm headphone jack
- higher battery consumption at 5G / basically non-existant coverage as of yet
- significantly higher price tag
- sound not as loud / good as the 4G version (headphones)
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AWFRONT said:
Hi! I am in the process of getting my new Mate 20x 5G EVR-N29 despite its disadvantages over the 4G version and would like to know if the EMUI 10/Android 10 Update is released or releasing anytime soon.
Also, please share your experience and bugs as well as there does not seem to be any dedicated threads for this device.
Not sure why but hope this will change as I think there should be dedicated sub-forums for this model to help users with device specific guidance, customisations and news.
In particular, I would like to know if display density reset issue remains or whether call recording can be enabled by default on EVR-N29.. Comments on Battery Life, Loudness of Speakers, M-Pen use and 5G performance also welcome.
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Have you spent any time browsing the Huawei forums on XDA, in particularly this one for the Mate 20x? They are basically dead "Mate", no pun intended.
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jbmc83 said:
may i ask why u went for the 5G version? summary of disadvantages:
- smaller battery
- no stereo speakers (earphone is now used as second speaker, thus unequal loudness)
- no 3.5 mm headphone jack
- higher battery consumption at 5G / basically non-existant coverage as of yet
- significantly higher price tag
- sound not as loud / good as the 4G version (headphones)
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Great question! Very accurate list of disadvantages. Thanks. I was one of the first to post about the disadvantages of this model in this forum when the details of its features were first leaked, subsequently officially announced. I was and still very upset with Huawei for what they did to Mate 20 X.
I am getting a very special discount on the price of the 5G model which I could not refuse so I am buying it. I love large phones and currently still using my Zenfone 3 Ultra and very happy with it despite the lack of NFC and 5G but want my next phone to be 5G ready and larger than my current phone as a future investment and to protect its resale value. Until proper folding devices become widespread, I think I could manage with the 5G Mate 20X. Besides, it also has large memory (compared to the European non-5g model EVR-L29) and Google Play Store and GMS is pre-installed so not need to sideload like on the non-5G 256Gb version (China Version).
I will share my experience with it when my phone arrives next week and really hope I could upgrade to Android 10 as hopefully the display density reset issue will be solved so I could make better use of the screen space.
@AWFRONT I am in same boat as you, waiting to get it next week!
same reasons to buy it, I had 20x 4g china almost year...
Phone is very close to 4g, however i like the below advantages.:
5G network is becoming common in Dubai so it is great to have 5G phone
Ram is bigger 8gb
Performance is slightly higher
Storage is 256gb
Didn't realize any difference in battery performance compared to 4G
SPLASH, WATER, AND DUST RESISTANT
SuperCharge (Max 40 W)
Yes you can install call recording in global phone
The only thing i can highlight is:
Sound is not as 4g
We didn't receive EMUI 10 yet even beta
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But if you want a very nice 5G phone i would recommend mate 30 pro 5G uf a big screen is not important to you .
I had a mistake that i bought mate 30 pro 4G recently and i have mate 20 x 5G.
ivanox1972 said:
@AWFRONT I am in same boat as you, waiting to get it next week!
same reasons to buy it, I had 20x 4g china almost year...
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Great! If you get it before me, do please update us on your experience and in particular on Android 10 update.
anasmhds said:
Phone is very close to 4g, however i like the below advantages.:
5G network is becoming common in Dubai so it is great to have 5G phone
Ram is bigger 8gb
Performance is slightly higher
Storage is 256gb
Didn't realize any difference in battery performance compared to 4G
SPLASH, WATER, AND DUST RESISTANT
SuperCharge (Max 40 W)
Yes you can install call recording in global phone
The only thing i can highlight is:
Sound is not as 4g
We didn't receive EMUI 10 yet even beta
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But if you want a very nice 5G phone i would recommend mate 30 pro 5G uf a big screen is not important to you .
I had a mistake that i bought mate 30 pro 4G recently and i have mate 20 x 5G.
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how can performance be higher if hardware is exactly the same in terms of SoC?
8/256 also in chinese 4G
battery performance should be significantly different at 84% battery capacity plus 5G eats more battery than 4G, especially with a separate 5G modem, so more hardware to power.
both 4G and 5G models are rated at IP53, no difference there.
supercharge at 40W is indeed different / higher than 4G and of course its nice to have global version
not criticizing here folks, just keeping the facts straight!
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Yes, like this. Good is 8gb on global sw and faster charging. Bad is smaller battery and worse sound.
Other same.
I hope it will serve me one day whole on 4g, until 5g come to Serbia. Then I will see..
I got it yesterday, played just a little for now.
Of course, all is same.
I noticed that screen is maybe little better calibrated (easily can be just production variations). Less green tint and a fraction stronger saturation on normal mode. Goes a little to red, not perfect...
No option for flicker reduce (as I remember on al00 it was introduced in 9.1 emui?).
Today I will set it usually for me, battery analysis in few days.
Charge is incredible : went from 40 to 95 percent in 10 or 15 minutes!
ivanox1972 said:
I got it yesterday, played just a little for now.
Of course, all is same.
I noticed that screen is maybe little better calibrated (easily can be just production variations). Less green tint and a fraction stronger saturation on normal mode. Goes a little to red, not perfect...
No option for flicker reduce (as I remember on al00 it was introduced in 9.1 emui?).
Today I will set it usually for me, battery analysis in few days.
Charge is incredible : went from 40 to 95 percent in 10 or 15 minutes!
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You know that super charging and fast charging reduces battery longetivity. I personally 5W charge my device and try and use the 80-40% charge regimen.
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Thanks for advice. Ir is not possible in software to disable fast charging?
Do anyone know about beta emui 10 on N29? I installed beta app, got login err
ivanox1972 said:
Thanks for advice. Ir is not possible in software to disable fast charging?
Do anyone know about beta emui 10 on N29? I installed beta app, got login err
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This is another short coming of EMUI, there is no place in software to turn off " fast charging", unlike Samsung which you can. My current charger , charges at approx 23% per hour / 1023mA. , Device temp doesn't even exceed 24C while charging. Sometimes , I do use a Samsung charger which charges at approx 1800mA.
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Anyone got beta 10 on N 29?
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Anyone got beta 10 on N 29?
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Got mine yesterday and it's on Android 9 with August security update, is this the latest for N29 UK model?
There is new with September patch.
9.1.1.188
Try your luck with emui beta 10 app?
ivanox1972 said:
There is new with September patch.
9.1.1.188
Try your luck with emui beta 10 app?
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For the N29? I've seen that version for CN Mate X 5G. Tried Beta app, HiCare app, no updates at all any chance I can get the update file and flash it?
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Anyone got beta 10 on N 29?
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Our security patch is August in UAE with 9.1.1.167
We must wait. Don't flash manually
I installed the Huawei Recording app and it works perfectly on the EVR-N29. Tested and the quality is excellent.
Still really miss my 20x and am considering ditching this S20 Ultra and picking one up again. Have been reading about Harmony and wonder how long they plan to keep updating the 20x for. Anyone know?
nickb99NZ said:
Still really miss my 20x and am considering ditching this S20 Ultra and picking one up again. Have been reading about Harmony and wonder how long they plan to keep updating the 20x for. Anyone know?
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Visit the huawei forums to post your question there. Customer service there usually can answer that question
Honor is soon release the Honor X20 Max on 7,2inch.
Its a mixed mid and top ranger.
I will for sure try it out.
I tried Samsung s21 ultra which i sold after 1 month.
Then i bought the xiaomi mi 11 ultra and a brand new Chinese version of mate 20x with a global rom and 8gb 256gb.
I still got both.
I like mi11u better vs S21u, but still the display is not big enough for me, so i hope for the Honor x20 max.
Honor X20 Max price in Global - Phoneaqua
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BigDisplay said:
Honor is soon release the Honor X20 Max on 7,2inch.
Its a mixed mid and top ranger.
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Yes its slated to be released this month. Unfortunately according to some news speculations it will come in a 20:9 aspect ratio. If thats indeed true you can forget about buying it. Narrow phones are s***. You and I are in the same boat when it comes to wide screens which we enjoy.
I really hope reports of the x20 max's aspect ratio are false and they decided to stick to the traditional 19:9 typified on last year's x10 max. If not I'll stick to my 20x for sure or possibly switch to the note 20 ultra. I really hate narrow phones.
Deanro said:
Yes its slated to be released this month. Unfortunately according to some news speculations it will come in a 20:9 aspect ratio. If thats indeed true you can forget about buying it. Narrow phones are s***. You and I are in the same boat when it comes to wide screens which we enjoy.
I really hope reports of the x20 max's aspect ratio are false and they decided to stick to the traditional 19:9 typified on last year's x10 max. If not I'll stick to my 20x for sure or possibly switch to the note 20 ultra. I really hate narrow phones.
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Im thinking like you, so let's