Color saturation & accuracy - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Samsung Galaxy S11's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

This is unfortunate :
https://twitter.com/andreif7/status/1250547793942413314?s=09

Thanks for that info. Yes, the gamma is also a little low on the S21+. I have not yet measured it with a spectro but you can tell just by looking at it.
As for the color mode to use, definitely pick 'normal' and not vivid.
Don't know why but as I have been using it for about a day, the normal mode color seems to be more saturated now than before. I will keep you guys updated. Maybe I am still in the warm-up period for the OLED?

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php
It's not perfect the contrast is too low on certain color gradients for certain. That said I keep brightness very low 10%/15%/20% to reduce battery drain. Something worth noting at 10% display brightness which is extremely low I also use the blue light reduction at 0% opacity automatically with Bixby Routines. I don't utilize the blue light reduction at 15% or above though however. Another display setting change I do is I change screen mode from natural to vivid and set it to warm I found warm better than cool in terms of being closest to natural in the first place so opted for that to make it just a subtle tone mapping kind of effect. I also adjust the advance settings white balance and reduce them lower across the board for R/G/B color values. I set them at red value 1, green value 2, blue value 3. That gives a higher reduction to the red color and minor boost to blue while green remains neutral. Alternatively you can use red value 1, green value 3, and blue value 5 if you want it even more color vibrant. By reducing the vivid white balance color values over the default which are set to max values it's a lot like blue light reduction in effect which is why at brightness 15% and above I don't bother to utilize it.
At brightness 10% I use Bixby Routines to enable blue light filter with 0% opacity though selectively for apps. At a low screen brightness of 10% the blue light filter seems to actually provide a subtle screen brightness boost though doesn't seem to help noticeably at least any around 15% and higher. I don't know why that is, but it allows a low brightness of 10% that's more usable for the apps I allow Bixby Routines to run at that setting automatically. It's a good way to let Nova Launcher and other less display brightness essential apps at lower brightness to better save on battery life.
Display battery life from best to worst...
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Color Calibration?

Have had this phone for a few days and am adjusting to LCD again after a long stint with SAMOLED+.
The colors on the Optimus look a bit muted to me, and dark grays aren't quite as deep as I prefer them. No doubt I'm just used to OLED. Is there a way to calibrate/adjust the color or even the gamma level? I don't know of an app that does it. Some ROMs have this feature.
Also, anyone know what the color gamut on this LG is? I hope that it's not low color gamut like the iP4, but it doesn't appear to be (hard to say, different OS).
I'm the only one who wants to color calibrate his display?
Is there a script available similar to this for the Galaxy Nexus? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521195
Even pentile matrix users want a color calibrated display!
I obviously can't speak for all users, but I've been completely happy with the color reproduction of the Nitro display. In fact, I'd say this is the best display I've ever used on a mobile phone. AMOLED's tend to be over saturated according to the experts whereas this screen scores really high in all tests of quality. Minus the HTC One X, we probably have the best display out there.
Out of the box, SAMOLED+ displays are horribly inaccurate and far too sharp, but after calibration (especially under 4.0+), colors can look quite accurate yet pleasing.
I'm not expecting this IPS display or any LCD to match OLED for black levels, but I believe that the Optimus' display, with some minor tweaking, can be better than it is right now. On LCDs, I prefer to turn up the backlight, turn down brightness, crank up contrast, and lower gamma: this creates very deep blacks and amazing contrast. Dark greys and minor details are slightly crushed, but this is a compromise that I'm willing to make.
Is there a script to lower the gamma level on the Optimus? I don't even need to do anything with the colors, though of course proper calibration would be nice too.

Display Brightness

This looks to be a great fone. However, one of the digs I read on many reviews concerns the display brightness both on the high and low end.
Any comments on readability in sunlight, ability to dim in the dark and overall impressions of contrast, color and depth of black will be appreciated.
Unfortunately locked into Big Red until July 10th. No more of that with this fone.
Brightness is OK on the high end. Not the brightest but I haven't had a problem reading display in sunlight - the CABC is very aggressive.
Minimum brightness is a problem because it doesn't get NEARLY dim enough!
Some apps can get brighter than the stock implementation reaches, btw. Though the higher limit isn't too much brighter.
For the automatic birghtness I do feel the auto-brightness levels for the low light and bright lighted areas is incorrectly calibrated.
For night time reading when I want lower brightness than permitted by the phone, I use the application "Screen Filter" from Haxor Industry. It's available on the Google Playstore and is a highly rated app.
For day time viewing when I want a higher brightness, I just turn off auto-brightness control and push the display brightness slider up.
Wish Asus had given us a tool to calibrate this according to our individual preferences. This kind of a tool was available in CyanogenMod, unfortunately not implemented by Asus as yet.
I've not received mine yet so I'm not talking from experience of this phone but I always use lux auto brightness on my devices rather than those that come built in. You then have complete control of its behavior.
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I started using Velis Auto Brightness last night and now the display brightness at all times is just perfect. The velis auto brightness tool also allows me to tweak the brightness curve to my individual preference.
The stock brightness solution leaves a lot wanting. The minimum brightness is way way too high.
Try lux app ?
Its brighter than the Moto X 2014 and I think my Nexus 6 ( I haven't compared it yet) however it's still easy to see in direct sunlight for me YMMV
I hope we'll see an increase in max brightness in a future update. Hopefully it's just a matter of pushing a little more voltage to the screen. It's not unusable...but using the phone yesterday in the car, a little bump in brightness would have been welcome.
Auto-brightness is fairly worthless...so investing in Lux and learning it.
Thanks lux is pretty awesome for dimming the screen well try brightness later. Since its super bright and hot day I'll check out brightness with lux on
Visibility is a bit better with lux turned to max
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Yellow tint screen calibration

I hate the yellow tint of the Moto X Force, and I try to fix this.
floepie said:
Wow. Good find! This is the ONLY app I have found that actually *decrease* RGB channel levels with respect to base levels. All other apps only increase levels. By increasing channels, you wind up removing those inky black on AMOLED screens. So, when your brightness levels increase, the blackness takes on the color of the increased color channel, which of course is bad.
I do question your method of removing the yellowish whites of the Moto X. The color temp adjuster slid all the way to the right at 6500 is essentially no filter at all, as its the default color temp. Moving it to the left warms up the white balance, but doesn't result in whiter whites. What I found to improve whiteness was to keep the white balance at 6500, but in the color channels, reduce both RED and GREEN channels to 0.949 and 0.937, respectively. I just keep these settings around the clock and don't make use of all the other filters.
So, this is the only app that I've found where you can maintain your inky blacks while actually *raising* the color temp, or at least raise BLUE levels with respect to the other 2 channels.
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RED : 0,949
GREEN : 0,937
BLUE : 1,000
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Thanks to @floepie I discovered the CF.Lumen app (by @Chainfire) and it works really well, however, I find (it can be is only an impression) that my battery quickly empty since I have apply his tweak.
I also find the screen a little bit to much blue, I think a softer adjustment would be better (but its better than the ugly stock yellow tint).
The question is simple how to modified the setting without unbalanced the screen and without loss the "AMOLED inky black" ?
Modified this will increase battery drain of the screen ? (I feel that it increases but I'm not sure)
I hope with your answers I will be able to modified this thread and create a tuto !
Thanks you guys !
Use screen balance instead. Works great on my 6p and Moto X Force.
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General Screen lottery woes (and a protip)

I ended up getting three pixel 6's and a 6 pro, because i'm picky about screens.
- The screen lottery is still real.
- All three pixel 6's have different Mura Effect. None of them have no Mura Effect. Many people don't notice this until it's pointed out to them, but with normal vision it's obvious on dark colors with a dim screen in a dark room (i.e. everyone's phone in bed every night).
- The 6's have a grayer graypoint than the 6 pro. The 6 pro's graypoint is slightly green.
- The regular 0%-100% brightness is relatively similar between the 6's and the 6 pro.
- The high brightness mode on all pixel 6's is brighter than the pro.
I'm torn between having a bright display (pixel 6) and a uniform display (pixel 6 pro). I think I'll opt for the uniform display, and for yet another year suffer for the notoriously dim pixel displays.
But for all the **** the pixel 6 display gets for not being "modern", it's literally a better display IMO except for the uniformity problems.
- it's flat, seriously **** curved edges for a plethora of reasons
- it's smaller, far from small but not quite unweildy
- brighter
- more neutral whites and grays
PIXEL DISPLAY PROTIP:
The default display mode, Adaptive, crushes blacks on the dimmest brightness levels. Switch to Boosted, which has the exact same saturation, but doesn't crush blacks! This makes it so that details in the darker parts of media is not crushed to black when you're watching stuff in bed. Use this this image to check it out. Edit the image to blacken out the white square, and then open it in a gallery app (some browsers change how colors appear, e.g. dark mode in the samsung browser darkens images, so don't do any real image-based tests in browsers), and then switch between Adaptive and Boosted. You're welcome .
finshan said:
I ended up getting three pixel 6's and a 6 pro, because i'm picky about screens.
- The screen lottery is still real.
- All three pixel 6's have different Mura Effect. None of them have no Mura Effect. Many people don't notice this until it's pointed out to them, but with normal vision it's obvious on dark colors with a dim screen in a dark room (i.e. everyone's phone in bed every night).
- The 6's have a grayer graypoint than the 6 pro. The 6 pro's graypoint is slightly green.
- The regular 0%-100% brightness is relatively similar between the 6's and the 6 pro.
- The high brightness mode on all pixel 6's is brighter than the pro.
I'm torn between having a bright display (pixel 6) and a uniform display (pixel 6 pro). I think I'll opt for the uniform display, and for yet another year suffer for the notoriously dim pixel displays.
But for all the **** the pixel 6 display gets for not being "modern", it's literally a better display IMO except for the uniformity problems.
- it's flat, seriously **** curved edges for a plethora of reasons
- it's smaller, far from small but not quite unweildy
- brighter
- more neutral whites and grays
PIXEL DISPLAY PROTIP:
The default display mode, Adaptive, crushes blacks on the dimmest brightness levels. Switch to Boosted, which has the exact same saturation, but doesn't crush blacks! This makes it so that details in the darker parts of media is not crushed to black when you're watching stuff in bed. Use this this image to check it out. Edit the image to blacken out the white square, and then open it in a gallery app (some browsers change how colors appear, e.g. dark mode in the samsung browser darkens images, so don't do any real image-based tests in browsers), and then switch between Adaptive and Boosted. You're welcome .
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thanks for the tip
also dxomark puts the pro more colour accurate than the 6
that and the off angle green/pink hues the none pro get are pretty well known now
If you're rooted and flash a kernel you can enable HBM (high brightness mode) and then the screen is even brighter than an S21 Ultra or any other device.
Izy said:
thanks for the tip
also dxomark puts the pro more colour accurate than the 6
that and the off angle green/pink hues the none pro get are pretty well known now
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Glad to help.
I prefer more neutral whites and grays to a 2% increase in "color accuracy". Display variance is so massive among all phones in the world, and color accuracy is already so good on high end phones, that color accuracy is a meme. What everyone does notice, however, is whether white and grays seem tinted yellow/orange/green etc.
ajsmsg78 said:
If you're rooted and flash a kernel you can enable HBM (high brightness mode) and then the screen is even brighter than an S21 Ultra or any other device.
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I already do that and it doesn't help that much. In direct sunlight with HBM enabled, the 6 Pro is definitely significantly dimmer than the 6's, which are both dimmer than my S21 Ultra, which is dimmer still than my 13 Pro Max.
It's classic google phone dimness. I'm shocked the 6 broke that mold...I just wish it was the 6 pro instead.

Ghosting on screen

Hey all,
I was looking at my phone, the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra, and I noticed some kind of ghosting or burn in or something. It looks like the image of icons that were on the screen, and are burned in. Any ideas? I included a pic I hope will explain better.
Running it in sunlight and/or brightness over 50%?
The pixels are wearing out from use. Blues go first, reds last generally from wear.
Use manual brightness control. Avoid use in direct sunlight. Keep brightness no higher than needs. Use dark mode and dark wallpapers.
Rotate widgets and icons.
My homepage and settings tweaked to minimize premature display wear.
Test it and see what you got:
Thanks for the insight. Is there any way to fix what has already happened?
Negative. It's a normal wear thing.
It's possible the manufacturing quality of that display wasn't good. See if you can badger Samsung into a warranty repair or reduced repair price. There have been a lot of issues across the board with variable refresh rate displays. One reason I stayed with the N10+.
Using dark mode and dark wallpapers will make less noticeable.
In the future take steps to prevent this with a new display. Yeah they get very bright but organic LEDs aren't as robust as their thicker non organic counterparts. Limit max or near max brightness to seconds not minutes. Avoid using in sunlight whenever possible. A 50% max limit except for some vids is sensible and helps a lot. Use lower levels in dimmer light, don't burn your retinas or display out.

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