Hey guys, i'm about to buy an Moto Z2 Force for a good price, but i have a doubt, the model number is the Xt1789-04 from at&t, so i was watching some post here about the phone and theres another z2 force with the same model number, the Tmobile and another model, the Xt1789-05 global, i'm the kind of person who love flashing things, roms, kernels, so i can flash roms, kernels, gsi roms and others with the at&t variant or i will be limited to keep the stock?
Jeffj0092 said:
Hey guys, i'm about to buy an Moto Z2 Force for a good price, but i have a doubt, the model number is the Xt1789-04 from at&t, so i was watching some post here about the phone and theres another z2 force with the same model number, the Tmobile and another model, the Xt1789-05 global, i'm the kind of person who love flashing things, roms, kernels, so i can flash roms, kernels, gsi roms and others with the at&t variant or i will be limited to keep the stock?
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ATT and TMO are both -04 but only the TMO is bootloader unlockable, not the ATT. However, both are stuck on oreo, no official pie, but there are pie roms for the TMO.
The -05 is bootloader unlockable and has pie officially, plus can run roms.
41rw4lk said:
ATT and TMO are both -04 but only the TMO is bootloader unlockable, not the ATT. However, both are stuck on oreo, no official pie, but there are pie roms for the TMO.
The -05 is bootloader unlockable and has pie officially, plus can run roms.
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So the bootloader of the att cant be unlocked? if so, i think i couldnt buy it
Jeffj0092 said:
So the bootloader of the att cant be unlocked? if so, i think i couldnt buy it
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Right. As of now there is no known way to unlock the bootloader of an ATT model.
41rw4lk said:
Right. As of now there is no known way to unlock the bootloader of an ATT model.
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damm that sucks, well, guess i will search for another phone, thanks for answers my questions
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Sorry for this if it is answered elsewhere but I didn't see a specific answer in my search.
I'm looking for the unlocked international version of the S9 because I want to root it, flash ROMs, etc..
I see the international SM-960 models that have the Exynos chip, which I know can be unlocked.
I also see the international SM-G9600 models that have the Snapdragon chip. Can the international variant with Snapdragon also be unlocked, or is it Exynos only?
In some strings I've seen mention of getting an unlock code from Samsung after 7 days. Is that for the 9600 (snapdragon), the 960 (Exynos), or both?
The SM G9600 has an unlocked bootloader like the exynos variants, but since there is no TWRP for the g9600 you kinda can't do much with it. There are no custom ROMs out there for the snapdragon version. But there are GSIs that can be installed thanks to Project treble. But like I said, without twrp you can't do much.
https://www.xda-developers.com/snapdragon-samsung-galaxy-s9-lineageos-15-1/
Flik210 said:
The SM G9600 has an unlocked bootloader like the exynos variants, but since there is no TWRP for the g9600 you kinda can't do much with it. There are no custom ROMs out there for the snapdragon version. But there are GSIs that can be installed thanks to Project treble. But like I said, without twrp you can't do much.
https://www.xda-developers.com/snapdragon-samsung-galaxy-s9-lineageos-15-1/
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Hi, I've bought an 960U in the USA, and looking to flash the Brazilian ROM, but the variant used here is the 9600. Can I Flash It?
fzambon said:
Hi, I've bought an 960U in the USA, and looking to flash the Brazilian ROM, but the variant used here is the 9600. Can I Flash It?
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No, the SM-G960U (AT&T carrier locked version, IIRC) has a locked bootloader. I do not think you can flash any new firmware to it, unfortunately.
EDIT: Maybe you can, follow the guide in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/how-to-flash-u1-firmware-to-device-t3765200
I'm not sure, but it may be worth a try.
nelsyv said:
No, the SM-G960U (AT&T carrier locked version, IIRC) has a locked bootloader. I do not think you can flash any new firmware to it, unfortunately.
EDIT: Maybe you can, follow the guide in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/how-to-flash-u1-firmware-to-device-t3765200
I'm not sure, but it may be worth a try.
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Hi
I have the 960u unlocked, I bought it in a best buy.
This makes a difference to flash or not the 9600?
fzambon said:
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I have the 960u unlocked, I bought it in a best buy.
This makes a difference to flash or not the 9600?
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Carrier unlocked is not the same as bootloader unlocked. One let's you use any carrier SIM card the other let's you flash stuff.
I can buy the N9600 but I am not entirely sure if it will be able to get fully twrp working and root
I have an AT&T nash and I was wondering if it is possible for me to flash stock pie
There is no pie for nash xt1789-04 (att) but there is pie released for other z2 force. Will it break my phone if I flash pie stock over ATT stock rom? If so, can I have a link to the pie rom?
There's no stock 9.0 for any model. GSIs and custom ROMs are available, but an unlocked bootloader is required for either route. Users of the ATT & VZ models must wait for Moto to rollout Pie officially.
If you're interested in those things I'd strongly recommend selling your ATT Z2.
Ace42 said:
There's no stock 9.0 for any model. GSIs and custom ROMs are available, but an unlocked bootloader is required for either route. Users of the ATT & VZ models must wait for Moto to rollout Pie officially.
If you're interested in those things I'd strongly recommend selling your ATT Z2.
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Oh, I thought pie was out because on gsmarena it says it's upgradeable. I guess it's wrong.
But when this does come out, for let's say, Sprint, is it possible for me to flash a sprint rom to my ATT MZ2F?
Shepxda said:
Oh, I thought pie was out because on gsmarena it says it's upgradeable. I guess it's wrong.
But when this does come out, for let's say, Sprint, is it possible for me to flash a sprint rom to my ATT MZ2F?
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Moto released their update rollout. Among the phones slated to receive Pie you'll find the Z2 and Z2 Play.
Sure, you can try to flash the official build on your Z when it's out. Just keep in mind that the phone will probably lose LTE, and possibly other functions.
Ok thank you for answering
Ace42 said:
Moto released their update rollout. Among the phones slated to receive Pie you'll find the Z2 and Z2 Play.
Sure, you can try to flash the official build on your Z when it's out. Just keep in mind that the phone will probably lose LTE, and possibly other functions.
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Shepxda said:
Ok thank you for answering
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Normally, yes you can flash from a different model (i.e. Sprint FW on TMO model), with the exception of the AT&T/Verizon variants, which are bootloader locked, and you cannot flash anything (not even official firmware) on them.
npjohnson said:
Normally, yes you can flash from a different model (i.e. Sprint FW on TMO model), with the exception of the AT&T/Verizon variants, which are bootloader locked, and you cannot flash anything (not even official firmware) on them.
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That's wrong because I was able to flash android 8.0 att over 7.1.1 because it wouldn't let me update normally. I'm pretty sure you can flash images with the same stock signature, but I'm asking if it's possible to flash stock firmware from another model on to att phone with bootloader locked
Shepxda said:
That's wrong because I was able to flash android 8.0 att over 7.1.1 because it wouldn't let me update normally. I'm pretty sure you can flash images with the same stock signature, but I'm asking if it's possible to flash stock firmware from another model on to att phone with bootloader locked
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough, I meant official firmware of a different model.
I have a Verizon Galaxy S9 (SM-G960U). Two questions for the experts. Is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? Is it possible to downgrade from Pie to Oreo if the bootloader versions are different?
No
No
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No
No
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Is this a situation where no solution has been discovered yet, or is this new technology that will never be conquered?
burchis19 said:
Is this a situation where no solution has been discovered yet, or is this new technology that will never be conquered?
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Both, you would need the encryption key from Samsung to unlock it, never gonna happen
If you want an S9 to root and play with, buy the International Exynos version, comes already unlocked ready to go
And you cannot downgrade the bootloader on either versions, once you're on a BL version higher than Oreos highest version, you're stuck
i have OPXS build in my XT1789-04 model but what i see most of the T-mobile models have OCXS builds. I can't find anything regarding OPXS kindly someone help me with this and also can i install OCXS/lineage OS builds to my device?
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Sorry I didn't read the heading correctly. I deleted my post. I'm not sure about OPSX...
asadhassan25 said:
i have OPXS build in my XT1789-04 model but what i see most of the T-mobile models have OCXS builds. I can't find anything regarding OPXS kindly someone help me with this and also can i install OCXS/lineage OS builds to my device?
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OPX is a retail variant, so it's possible someone flashed a retail fw to get rid of bloat. Look by your charger port on your phone to confirm that you have an -04 (TMO) variant. If so, then search for "How to return to Stock" and you'll find everything you need to flash stock TMO fw. If you have anything else besides -04 then reply back with what you have.
As for installing lineage, as long as your device is bootloader unlocked, you should be able to get it sorted and install lineage.
41rw4lk said:
OPX is a retail variant, so it's possible someone flashed a retail fw to get rid of bloat. Look by your charger port on your phone to confirm that you have an -04 (TMO) variant. If so, then search for "How to return to Stock" and you'll find everything you need to flash stock TMO fw. If you have anything else besides -04 then reply back with what you have.
As for installing lineage, as long as your device is bootloader unlocked, you should be able to get it sorted and install lineage.
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Yes its -04 variant. now its confirmed that its tmo variant can i go further to upgrade it to PPX version? because i found out that there is a pie update for this firmware which is "NASH_RETAIL_9.0_PPX29.159-24_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml".
also as you said someone flashed a retail fw in my device so i can consider that bootloader of my device is unlocked, right?
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Yes its -04 variant. now its confirmed that its tmo variant can i go further to upgrade it to PPX version? because i found out that there is a pie update for this firmware which is "NASH_RETAIL_9.0_PPX29.159-24_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml".
also as you said someone flashed a retail fw in my device so i can consider that bootloader of my device is unlocked, right?
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There is no pie firmware for the TMO variant. If you flash any pie firmware you can kiss your baseband goodbye and enjoy your calculator. I don't know for fact that someone flashed a retail fw, I just know that TMO fw is OCX. To see if your bootloader is unlocked, reboot to bootloader and look. You should see flashing_unlocked if it is.
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There is no pie firmware for the TMO variant. If you flash any pie firmware you can kiss your baseband goodbye and enjoy your calculator. I don't know for fact that someone flashed a retail fw, I just know that TMO fw is OCX. To see if your bootloader is unlocked, reboot to bootloader and look. You should see flashing_unlocked if it is.
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Well to be fair, I did install pie retail on my tmo and, after God only remembers how, I managed to comeback to life with imei and wifi. But yeah, I don't reccomand anyone to flash pie stock, unless I really hate that person ???
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There is no pie firmware for the TMO variant. If you flash any pie firmware you can kiss your baseband goodbye and enjoy your calculator. I don't know for fact that someone flashed a retail fw, I just know that TMO fw is OCX. To see if your bootloader is unlocked, reboot to bootloader and look. You should see flashing_unlocked if it is.
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Well then only LOS is my only hope i checked for bootloader and it shows flashing_unlocked. After some reading regarding LOS stability i will try LOS 16.
I ordered a Korean S20 ultra (988N), but live in the US. Has anyone flashed the US firmware on a bootloader unlocked SD variant of the phone (ie 988U1 firmware on a 988N or 9880)? If so, did you have to change the CSC to XAA before or after you flashed the firmware?
mx597turbo said:
I ordered a Korean S20 ultra (988N), but live in the US. Has anyone flashed the US firmware on a bootloader unlocked SD variant of the phone (ie 988U1 firmware on a 988N or 9880)? If so, did you have to change the CSC to XAA before or after you flashed the firmware?
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I don't have an answer to your question but will the non-US phone work in the US like on Verizon system as is?
It should work fine on LTE. The main Verizon bands are 2, 4, 5, 13, all of which are supported in all s20 variants. I don't think you'll get 5g on any US carriers, so if that's important, better to pick up a US spec phone, and pay to unlock the bootloader.
mwyarm said:
I don't have an answer to your question but will the non-US phone work in the US like on Verizon system as is?
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I tested the phone (G988N) on both Verizon on TMobile. I was able to get 5G on both carriers. So I can confirm that all features (except possibly WiFi calling on Tmobile), work.
So using the KOO firmware in the US works perfectly fine. No reason to try to flash XAA.
mx597turbo said:
I tested the phone (G988N) on both Verizon on TMobile. I was able to get 5G on both carriers. So I can confirm that all features (except possibly WiFi calling on Tmobile), work.
So using the KOO firmware in the US works perfectly fine. No reason to try to flash XAA.
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I wish you had tried lol I'm tempted to flash the U1 firmware on my Korean S22 Ultra but I'm looking for more info before going for it. Still no luck.