So, this is what I know:
There are at least 2 apps that must be flashed just after LineageOS is flashed, before the first boot, otherwise I won't be able to install them and have them working correctly.
1 .addonsu for root access
2. gapps for google apps and play store access.
However, I cannot seem to find if there is anything else that I must install at flash time if I intend to use it.
In addition to that concern, which applications in-general should I install after booting into lineageOS?
I mean, I definitely want to know all of the network and internet activity my phone is engaged in. After all, my main reason for changing from Android to this is so that google can't track everything I'm doing and listen-in on my microphone. (They admitted to this, by the way, regarding their in-home devices. Is it really a stretch to think they aren't doing it to anything they control that has a microphone?) Is there perhaps a good LineageOS app that will report to me all of the network and internet activity going on with my phone?
Does anyone have some sort of list in their mind or maybe linked somewhere that is a good general list for a beginning user to lineageOS?
Is there some kind of LineageOS app store with it's own app that I could flash?
I'll be installing to my Nexus 5x bullhead, so that means Lineage 15.1, since that's the supported one for that phone. I'll probably try to upgrade to 16 once I get 15 installed with the apps I want. -- Oh wait, I guess I can't until someone comes out with a nightly 16 build for bullhead.
And of course, thank you for taking the time.
Congratulations. You are well prepared. One point, nobody told you, yet: after installing lineageOS, you can quickly and easily flash other roms and addons. So it's no problem to flash lineageOS and nothing else. So you have no Google spyware to block afterwards.
You can flash lineage4microG that has f-droid app store, which is far more trustworthy than Google play store.
You can flash addonsu or magisk at the time you recognise you really need root. Rooting is nothing you should do just for fun.
After trying various no-GApps configurations, you maybe come to the conclusion, you need GApps. In that case you best flash rom and GApps and root and and install a firewall like AFWall+ (Netzwerkdatenverkehr kontrollieren) - https://f-droid.org/app/dev.ukanth.ufirewall
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Congratulations. You are well prepared. One point, nobody told you, yet: after installing lineageOS, you can quickly and easily flash other roms and addons. So it's no problem to flash lineageOS and nothing else. So you have no Google spyware to block afterwards.
You can flash lineage4microG that has f-droid app store, which is far more trustworthy than Google play store.
You can flash addonsu or magisk at the time you recognise you really need root. Rooting is nothing you should do just for fun.
After trying various no-GApps configurations, you maybe come to the conclusion, you need GApps. In that case you best flash rom and GApps and root and and install a firewall like AFWall+ (Netzwerkdatenverkehr kontrollieren)
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I did. I installed TWRP. Then I sideloaded lineageos, not the microG one though. I sideloaded addonsu, and an OTA zip I found for fdroid. I also sideloaded orbot and orwall, but I think orwall prevented things from connecting to the internet. I hope orbot is sufficient. It uses TOR and sets up a VPN profile that you can then set to never allowing connections without the VPN, which I hope means that all traffic is routed through orbot's TOR connection.
I don't think I'll need google because I think that I'm more safe with privacy concerns downloading apks from an unmonitored third party site like apkmirror than putting google stuff on my phone. And I also found out about yalp, but we need a google account apparently to get the apps from the play store that way. I downloaded swiftkeys from apkmirror, and that gave me a keyboard that I could use like normal android has.
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I did. I installed TWRP. Then I sideloaded lineageos, not the microG one though. I sideloaded addonsu, and an OTA zip I found for fdroid. I also sideloaded orbot and orwall, but I think orwall prevented things from connecting to the internet. I hope orbot is sufficient. It uses TOR and sets up a VPN profile that you can then set to never allowing connections without the VPN, which I hope means that all traffic is routed through orbot's TOR connection.
I don't think I'll need google because I think that I'm more safe with privacy concerns downloading apks from an unmonitored third party site like apkmirror than putting google stuff on my phone. And I also found out about yalp, but we need a google account apparently to get the apps from the play store that way. I downloaded swiftkeys from apkmirror, and that gave me a keyboard that I could use like normal android has.
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That's hard core
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Hi. It looks like all barclays apps are not working on LineageOS any more. They find the phone rooted all of a sudden. Does anyone know of a solution??
Mine started playing up with the update on the 29th. But not sure if this is a Lineage only issue. Many users in the play store comments, saying the same thing. Can't get any further than the initial splash screen. No error codes or anything.
My girlfriend has her Oneplus One with LineageOS and since the last Barclays app update last week version 1.48, the app get always stuck during the loading screen. It was working perfectly fine. Updated LineageOS to latest version but no change, cleared Barclays app cache and data, still no luck. Cleared cache partition, no change.
The phone is not rooted, so Barclays app simply became incompatible with LineageOS since the last update on their app.
Yup same problem, I spoke with Barclays on the phone and on twitter....got nowhere.
my GF is trying support with Barclays over facebook, was told to call the support line after a while troubleshooting
Make sure she mentions the Play Store comments, to show this is not an isolated thing.
she called support and they mentioned they know already about this problem and are working to resolve it
Same issue here. Thought It was a ROM issue, thanks for clarifying.
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Same issue here. Thought It was a ROM issue, thanks for clarifying.
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Not necessarily, several other phones with their original firmware are having the same issue.
Just to ad I found this thread for the same reason
Latest LineageOS , LG G4, Launch barclays it asks for call permissions - Granted, it then hangs on Barclays Logo
I know it doesnt work with root access and always moans i dont have AV installed when I do (maybe its looking for kaspersky that they promote)
I'm on the latest LineageOS update, LG G4. Even did a full factory reset with no luck.
I think this will not change, barclays has not updated their app in a while since this problem started and I reported a few times it to them, perhaps I'm the only one doing it
I've tried a couple of times, but they dont seem all that bothered. They are not even bothering to address the comments on the play store.
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I've tried a couple of times, but they dont seem all that bothered. They are not even bothering to address the comments on the play store.
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I've found it much easier just to use the Barclay's Mobile Banking site via a browser, they're not interested in fixing the app for rooted users.
It's secure and requires you set up a secret word, which during login, will ask you for a couple of letters from in a random order, over and above your passcode and form account details.
https://bank.barclays.co.uk/olb/auth/MobiLoginLink.action
mines not even rooted though? I lost root with the image, it normally moans about root but this is different I stuck on another image and it worked fine grrr
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This may fix it - let me know
https://www.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/comments/6vi5bp/heres_how_i_got_the_barclays_app_to_work_on_my/
So the new update to the Barclays app now thinks my LineageOS is rooted, when its not.
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So the new update to the Barclays app now thinks my LineageOS is rooted, when its not.
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same here. was working fine (on oneplus one lineage os 14.1), then barclays update the app to 1.48 and it started hanging at the splash screen. barclays app has been updated again to 1.52, but now thinks my phone is rooted.
Yup, Barclays have blocked LineageOS users on purpose. Why? Because they hate root access and in May an update to LineageOS could successfully hide root from any application (barclays included) as it changes the permissions on the su binary.
More details about that here:
https://lineageos.org/Changelog-9/
Thus, what did Barclays do? Well because they cannot check if device is rooted or not reliably with LineageOS, they decided to block the OS all together so now it simply checks if the device is running LineageOS.
It sucks, but it's the way it is. I've simply removed the Barclays app from my phone - A choice between Barclays app on Stock Rom running old android version and LineageOS with latest security updates? Well LineageOS wins.
The new barclay's update says "We're working to fix the problem with our app detecting some Android devices as rooted". They might change something for someone, can anyone confirm that this update fixes something? I would not be able to test it until tonight when arrive home, since it is my gf phone the one with lineage.
Cheers!
Nope, still detecting as rooted.
Nexus 6 - Lineage 02/02/2018
Hey, I've just installed lineageos 15.1 on my oneplus 2, all my banking apps (natwest, Tsb, Halifax etc) crash when I try to login to them. The installation went fine except it said it couldn't mount /data during the install, but it worked.
Would this be be linked to all my banking apps crashing? I'm not rooted. Any other ideas why it might not work?
You may need to install Magisk which is the new method of rooting and use it to hide root from the banking apps. I think the apps are programmed to pick up custom ROM's hence why it's not working.
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You may need to install Magisk which is the new method of rooting and use it to hide root from the banking apps. I think the apps are programmed to pick up custom ROM's hence why it's not working.
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Just did a completely clean install, got no problems with /data this time (no errors at all).
Installed TSB and Halifax and both crash upon login. (Nothing to say anything about root, just app force closes or returns to login screen).
I installed Magisk and used Magisk hide still no luck.
Anyone got any ideas why it's just the banking apps crashing?
Tried the same thing on a oneplus one with LineageOS 15.1 and it worked fine?
I have the exact same issue on my OnePlus 2. This issue existed in Lineage OS 15.1 and now in Resurrection Remix as well. A work around is to use an older version of Natwest App, which can be downloaded from Apk mirror (see below)
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/the-r...banking-05-04-0000-36-0-android-apk-download/
This solution sucks though because you miss out on the latest features introduced. Also, fingerprint login won't work.
Not worth the hassle, It'll just end in failure, the best method is to just use the banks main sites with a good browser.
Dear All,
By any chance has any of you succeeded into disabling play store without being root?
It used to be possible on older phones I owned, but I am struggling to find a way to do so on my new RN8PRO option to disable is 'disabled'
I have read many of those threads here, might have missed the solution, please forgive me if I did, would appreciate if you could point me toward the solution.
I also used that java app to debloat phones by uninstalling/disabling what I had no use for and it worked fine with most of the apps, just not play store which was not even listed at all.
Yes I dont use play store, Apps I install I get from other means (F-Droid etc).
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
You can uninstall system apps through ADB / using fastboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8-pro/themes/adb-fastboot-tools-debloat-safe-list-t4012255
I'm not sure though if it's safe to uninstall play store.
Sounds to me you'd be better of with xiaomi.eu ROM and debloat as much as you like.
I have the 11.0.2.0 Global without Playstore running. Just deactivate or uninstall with adb "com.android.vending".
You can also still debloat the Google Play services "com.google.android.gms" and Google services framework "com.google.android.gsf" but this can cause problems with some apps that require the services.
You can use the Xiaomi ADB Fastboot tool for this, as the previous speaker mentioned. There you can add the apps you want to disable/uninstall via App Manager -> Add apps.
Thanks @donkyshot & @hmarder!
Actually I am using google play services, that's google play store I have no use for.
So what I had to do simply was to Add the app ing App Manager from the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot app "com.android.vending: Google Play Store" and disable from there (I prefer disabling those stuff to avoid dependencies problems afterward).
When I just get a new device I try to refrain myself from doing too many things I could not easily recover from, more especially If I am not 100% sure I want to keep the device or if I will return it.
That said I would have liked to have that one a bit earlier because from what I read it looks like xiaomi.eu stopped supporting this device right before I got it, and they removed links to ROMs even for stable Android Pie versions, I'll probably never be able to test those later on even If I would have probably liked to.
I'll try to find working links before they all go down....
Thx again for pointing me to the right direction.
Regards,
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I am using an LG V20, recently I have successfully installed Lineage OS 18.1.
I'm scared of the amount of junk apps (ads, useless, third-party,...) that are available inside LG's firmware (and you can't remove them without root - but you can only root on Android 7), so I decided to try another OS.
After installing Lineage OS the first thing I noticed is that I can't customize the buttons on navigation bar, I tried searching google for custom instructions but most of them are instructions for the old version of Lineage OS, I can't find the custom buttons on navigation bar on this latest version (or maybe I'm wrong?). Please help me?
I have used System App Remover to see all system apps, there are more than 200+ system apps (including GApps), I've looked a few times, only a few apps can guess the function. functionality, or only a few app packages can be recognized (less than 80 apps in total are recognisable and searchable on Google). I want to ask which system apps can be safely deleted?
I tried flashing the LOSdiet file and android debloat script with TWRP although the flash was successful BUT NO apps was removed.
UPDATE: I feel that installing the whole GApps is really unnecessary as Google Play Store and Google Play Services can be downloaded on Google, just 2 apps Google Partner Setup and Google Services Framework are enough. If in the firmware file these 2 applications are available, I think installing GApps is not necessary.
Thanks.
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I am using an LG V20, recently I have successfully installed Lineage OS 18.1.
I'm scared of the amount of junk apps (ads, useless, third-party,...) that are available inside LG's firmware (and you can't remove them without root - but you can only root on Android 7), so I decided to try another OS.
After installing Lineage OS the first thing I noticed is that I can't customize the buttons on navigation bar, I tried searching google for custom instructions but most of them are instructions for the old version of Lineage OS, I can't find the custom buttons on navigation bar on this latest version (or maybe I'm wrong?). Please help me?
I have used System App Remover to see all system apps, there are more than 200+ system apps (including GApps), I've looked a few times, only a few apps can guess the function. functionality, or only a few app packages can be recognized (less than 80 apps in total are recognisable and searchable on Google). I want to ask which system apps can be safely deleted?
I tried flashing the LOSdiet file and android debloat script with TWRP although the flash was successful BUT NO apps was removed.
UPDATE: I feel that installing the whole GApps is really unnecessary as Google Play Store and Google Play Services can be downloaded on Google, just 2 apps Google Partner Setup and Google Services Framework are enough. If in the firmware file these 2 applications are available, I think installing GApps is not necessary.
Thanks.
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Installing GApps is really not necessary. But in that case you will miss many features. Including play store. But you can install f-droid and aurora store.
LineageOS is not meant to torture you with bloatware. Even if you don't use the preinstalled apps, they will do no harm.
And you can debloat unrooted stock ROM with adb.
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Installing GApps is really not necessary. But in that case you will miss many features. Including play store. But you can install f-droid and aurora store.
LineageOS is not meant to torture you with bloatware. Even if you don't use the preinstalled apps, they will do no harm.
And you can debloat unrooted stock ROM with adb.
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Yes, but it has too many deprecated apps, I am discussing on reddit, hope they remove them in next update.
habaka said:
Yes, but it has too many deprecated apps, I am discussing on reddit, hope they remove them in next update.
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Mail already removed with android 10 to 11 version upgrade.
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Mail already removed with android 10 to 11 version upgrade.
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MMS has been deprecated although it still exists.
Hello, I am with Lineage OS (19-20230130-NIGHTLY-gauguin) and for about a week Google Play has stopped working.
It opens normally but when trying to install or update it gets stuck in downloading and then goes to failed. I have enough memory space and haven't made any changes to the device other than updating Lineage OS from time to time via the built-in updater.
I have installed Aurora market and connect it to my google account but the same thing happens when I try to install or update an app: it stays downloading and then fails.
Things I've tried, without success:
- Clear cache and data from Google Play, Google Play Services and download manager.
- Uninstall updates in the Google Play app.
- Uninstall the app from Google Play by fastboot and reinstall it.
- Remove my Google account from the phone and put it back in and sync it.
Any ideas?
Could you figure out where it fails? Perhaps it's "just" the network:
I have an adblocker on my router and lately I couldn't login into several sites properly until I switched from WLAN to mobile.
Alternatively you could try
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/
It's like Google Play Store without the need for an account.
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Could you figure out where it fails? Perhaps it's "just" the network:
I have an adblocker on my router and lately I couldn't login into several sites properly until I switched from WLAN to mobile.
Alternatively you could try
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/
It's like Google Play Store without the need for an account.
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Thanks for your response. It shouldn't be the network because I'm able to navigate properly. Anyway, I tried both wifi and phone data with the same result. Also, it started happening just a week ago and I have been using the same connection all the time so I would discard it be network related.
Aurora I tried already and gave the same problem as Google Play.
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Aurora ... same problem as Google Play
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Oh, weird, didn't expect that at all...
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Oh, weird, didn't expect that at all...
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Indeed it's weird... I thought it could be an issue like this but in my case I didn't do an upgrade to a higher LineageOS version, just normal updates.
BTW I love your username
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Lineage OS (19-20230130-NIGHTLY
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Hang on a second, just tried my FP3 which was on 20230123 and updates working (there was one: Android Auto). Now updating to 20230130 and checking again...
Still updating...
Someone in that reddit link mentioned mindthegapps... I vaguely remembered that I was slightly annoyed/confused with the directions given in the LOS wiki:
OpenGApps vs MindTheGapps
https://wiki.lineageos.org/gapps
Finally decided to go with MindTheGapps... do you recall your choice?
Ah, it finally finished updating: Aurora is up and working (at google translate installed like a charm and works).