Does VZW allow N975F international variants on their network? [Update: YES!* (YMMV)] - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

I'm looking to get a Note 10+ phone that can be bootloader unlocked & rooted, but I'm tied to Verizon.
Anyone using either the N976F or N975F on VZW? Any issues or tricks in order to get them to accept something other than the "V" variant that is locked down and may never have root?
Trying to figure out which of these 3 Note 10+ phone variants to go with:
N975F
N976F
N9750/DS
TIA.
UPDATE: Not officially, but it seems possible. Keep reading below for my experience...

I'm on the n9750 on Verizon and it seems to be working well. I just got it so I haven't got to fully test quite yet.

Just for reference, I wanted to post this for others since I wasn't able to find true compatibility details other than VZW's ironfisted "certified" devices (ie the locked SM-N975U):
I recently purchased a Samsung Note 10+ (SM-N975F/DS) international variant online, and was able to get successfully attached to my VZW account. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and was replacing an existing phone on my account.
Here's how it went down:
Initially when I tried to activate and attach the N10+ to my account via VZW website, it told me the phone couldn't be registered on their network.
Took my phone to a local VZW store.
Told the rep I bought a new phone and needed it attached to my account.
He validated my account details (he never asked for the IMEI of my new phone) & grabbed a new sim card, did his thing on the VZW tablet terminal and then popped the sim into my new phone.
At this point, the LTE data worked almost immediately, however the voice calling didn't work. Test calls just failed and quickly exited the phone app saying call failed/ended.
He said wait a couple minutes, sometimes it takes a bit, so we did. I think we also rebooted too. He was checking various things on my phone and the account.
He noticed that the VZW system said my phone couldn't be used on their network, but said there was something he could try...
He took the sim out of my phone and popped it into his already activated VZW phone. After a maybe 30 seconds, he made a test voice call, and it worked (my sim, his phone)
Then we swapped my newly activated sim back into my new phone and after about 30 seconds, I had both LTE data (as before) and now also had voice calling. A quick test call from my phone confirmed and I was good to go!
Obviously, YMMV, but it can be done, you just might need to find a VZW rep that is helpful and willing to go the extra mile to get the international version (SM-N975F/DS) activated onto the Verizon network.

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carrier unlocking AT&T from KitKat

Haaa, AT&T! So my AT&T Note II has been off contract since I got the Nexus 6 back in November on launch day (perfect timing, eh?) Anyhow, since it was off contract, I asked the death star for the unlock code through their web page specifically for that, and they gave it to me. In the instructions included with the code, they gave a very terse warning that after five tries it would be permanently locked to AT&T. Why? Pretty crappy if you ask me. Further, what they didn't tell me was that if the phone is on KitKat, the unlock code won't work unless you do some very specific things in some hidden menus. So I burned up my five tries and failed. Then I found the page that listed the specific steps, did them, and voila... unlocked. Tried and tested using the Tmobile sim from my wife's iphone 6. Freaking AT&T.
Rant alert:
I commonly switch my old grandfathered AT&T unlimited iphone data sim back and forth between old phones just for fun. But come to find out, if I put the same sim into my cellular 2014 ipad air, it will not work. But if i put my wife's Tmobile sim into my 2014 ipad air, it works great. AT&T blocking tablet data with a phone sim. Tmobile doesn't. Freaking AT&T. They suck. If I didn't have the grandfathered unlimited data plan from back in 2007, i'd dump them like a bucket of pig slop.
pcrussell50 said:
Haaa, AT&T! So my AT&T Note II has been off contract since I got the Nexus 6 back in November on launch day (perfect timing, eh?) Anyhow, since it was off contract, I asked the death star for the unlock code through their web page specifically for that, and they gave it to me. In the instructions included with the code, they gave a very terse warning that after five tries it would be permanently locked to AT&T. Why? Pretty crappy if you ask me. Further, what they didn't tell me was that if the phone is on KitKat, the unlock code won't work unless you do some very specific things in some hidden menus. So I burned up my five tries and failed. Then I found the page that listed the specific steps, did them, and voila... unlocked. Tried and tested using the Tmobile sim from my wife's iphone 6. Freaking AT&T.
Rant alert:
I commonly switch my old grandfathered AT&T unlimited iphone data sim back and forth between old phones just for fun. But come to find out, if I put the same sim into my cellular 2014 ipad air, it will not work. But if i put my wife's Tmobile sim into my 2014 ipad air, it works great. AT&T blocking tablet data with a phone sim. Tmobile doesn't. Freaking AT&T. They suck. If I didn't have the grandfathered unlimited data plan from back in 2007, i'd dump them like a bucket of pig slop.
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so what are you trying to do, carrier unlock your note 2 which is currently on kitkat, to use any sim?
unfortunetly, the only way you can do this is to flash, using odin and in download mode, the stock 4.1.1 rom of your carrier (or any which has 4.1.1) from here and then doing the following steps from here.
Only thing is, that it will cause you to trip the counter.... and doesn't seem to want to go back to 0 (due to some hardware thingy)... but since you're already out of warranty, shouldn't really matter.
Anyways, once you have completed that, and tested with a different sim and confirmed it working, you can then go ahead and flash back the kitkat rom (4.4.2) of your carrier (or any other you want) using odin again and that's it. your phone will be back to its official state minus the knox warranty counter still at 1.
edit: Unfortunately.... the speed of the downloads of the images SUCK for the rom images... stupid hosting site.... anyways i had to leave it overnight... which i'd recommend you doing if you cant find any other location with those images...
No mate, my note 2, IS carrier unlocked. Att gave me the unlock code after my contract ended. Their instructions for using it were incomplete if you had ungraded to KitKat which I had, but I figured it out and now I have full carrier unlock.
What I have not solved is being able to put my att phone sim into my att iPad and have it work. If I put my wife's T-Mobile phone sim into my iPad, it works fine. So it is att that doesn't let us swap our sim back and forth between phone and tablet. T-Mobile doesn't do this. Not sure if Sprint and Verizon have the same hostile altitude.
I have grandfathered att unlimited data form the original iPhone. But their douchey attitude about swapping the sim between phone and tablet may be enough to drop them altogether if project fi works out for me.
-Peter

Activating Device

Did anyone else have trouble activating their device on At&t? I gave them the IMEI and the representative said that it is not recognized as a smart phone in their system. Some BS.
Just popped the sim card out of my moto X, and into the 5x. Worked without any hassle. Didn't have to call them or anything.
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I used a sim that I cut to micro sim, then to a nano sim when I got the phone but I didn't get LTE since its an old sim. Went to the store and got a nano sim, activated it over the phone and gave them the imei worked fine. This was the first weekend when phones were shipping.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/co...esnt_work_with_att_lte_bands/?sort=confidence
This should help. In particular the comments.
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I have lte and service but the representative told me that it will probably go away until they fix the "name". She said my data plan would have to change from " iPhone data plan" to "Smartphone Data plan"
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LR07 said:
Did anyone else have trouble activating their device on At&t? I gave them the IMEI and the representative said that it is not recognized as a smart phone in their system. Some BS.
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I had an issue... I use it as my work phone, so I asked them to activate it. However, they came back a couple of hours later noting that they were unable to do it and that our AT&T rep suggested taking it into a corporate store. I did and they were able to activate it over the phone (stores can't mess with corporate accounts directly). Didn't hear why they were unable to do it through the usual channels. Good luck.
banksc said:
I had an issue... I use it as my work phone, so I asked them to activate it. However, they came back a couple of hours later noting that they were unable to do it and that our AT&T rep suggested taking it into a corporate store. I did and they were able to activate it over the phone (stores can't mess with corporate accounts directly). Didn't hear why they were unable to do it through the usual channels. Good luck.
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I got it resolved. When i went in the store, the rep told me that my unlimited data plan had been taken off. He put it back on and everything was working. At&t is on some bullsh*t! Must be mad, Google is selling it unlocked
I had no problems when I walked in to the AT&T store (not authorized retailer, actual AT&T owned).
I told the rep that I needed to switch phones. Handed him my new Nexus 5X, commented it needed a nano sim, he grabbed one, scanned the barcode on the back of the phone, waited for his system to update, popped in new sim and within a few seconds the "LTE" came up and he said when it finished (initial) booting I would be good to go, I could hang out until then or leave if I needed to. He was correct. When I look online at my AT&T account my phone shows as an unknown device. - wait, just logged in to double check the terminology, it now is back to showing my old Galaxy S4.... that's strange. I clicked "manage my device" and it comes up with no phone image and just says "DEVICE". Either way, just go get a new SIM, they will scan the code and it will be golden.

Sprint Galaxy S6 (G920p)

So I have contacted spring 20 times, they have confirmed my SM-G920p is domestically unlocked. Getting a sim from AT&T and it says invalid Sim. I've searched everywhere, some forums say do a paid service (im fine with) others say unlocking from sprint works....which is obviously doest for my phone.
Anyone actually sucsefully unlocked a spring galaxy s6 (g920p.20) and used it on AT&T network? If so can you give me the details?
Thanks!
Question. Why on this phone in the network mode does it have options to use CDMA, LTE/CDMA, GSM, GSM/UMTS?
GSM AT&T works fine Idk why ppl say it doesn't work I have H2O which uses AT&T and I get LTE. Use a website called willmyphonework to find answers on stuff like this
This is the first website I've created to post about this topic. I've spent the past few days researching and testing out things. So far I've only found a few post online saying it works....I've not heard much about the sm-G920P NOT working on other networks. Also the phone itself is not made for CDMA or GSM ONLY.
One thing is for sure, one of my sm-G920p is domestically unlocked from Sprint. They also gave me a MLS or MSL# or whatever even though I dont think it matters. This phone will not take any AT&T sims. It says invalid sim.
With another sm-G920p, I rooted it and unlocked it another way...obviously not involving sprint. I will test it this evening to see if it accepts AT&T's sim card and will post my findings.
The whole reason for this is we have a business that goes though phones due to physical damage. I have a couple left over phones that I've replaced the screen on myself. I would like to let my sister and fiance use the galaxy S6s as they have old phones! All of these phones have been paid in full FYI and our account is in great standing.
Okidoki. I have spent some time working on unlocking a Spring Galaxy S6 SM-G920P with stock firmware ending in QB1. At first I found out that US carriers now have to unlock your phone if you ask. At first I went that route as it seemed legit. I called Spring and got a guy on the phone from tech support. I gave him the DEC# on the back of the phone and he said "Great thanks.....its unlocked." I though sick!...went to AT&T next day and got a nano sim activated. Once entered the phone read "Invalid Sim". I got back on the phone with sprint quit quickly while at AT&T. The lady said she had to send in a ticket to get it unlocked and the guy before definitely did not unlock it. Went home and went online again. Next day the lady called me at 11am and said it was domestically unlocked. I called back an hour later and talked to someone else confirming it was unlocked. Went to sprint, installed new activated sim...."Invalid Sim". Next thing was to root it and try unlocking it myself.
I found out how to root the phone and install custom firmware and whatnot. Its fairly easy, similar to computer basics. Once that was done I unlocked the phone with a little help which was not hard to find. I went to AT&T and BOOM!!! Phone worked RIGHT away. I was blown away. The phone had voice, data, msg, voice mail 3g and lte. Had my fiance put in her google info.....FYI this is my fiances AT&T account and a spare S6 I had that i fixed the screen on. Anyway she put her google account into it and restarted the phone. At the "samsung" logo login little red letters at the top say something about FRP is locked. The way you bypass this is right after you unlock the phone you need to go into the developer options and enable OEM Unlock. This fixes the lockout. But to get back into the phone once you lock it out you have to re root the phone with its original firmware.
It has worked all evening. Thanks Jhoward you gave me that last little boost today to get it working. I know the SM-G920P phone works in every network so I have no idea why people think it can only work on one network. Something I did learn is that these are little computers.....pretty cool!
If anyone needs any more info pm me.
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They lie. It took me 5 calls and many hours to get one of my 2 s6 unlocked. There is some problem with original activation date on some of the phones.
They said both were unlocked but only one worked.... Until finally tech support fixed the activation date.
Now both work on T-Mobile very well
sprint is a little ***** when it comes to unlocking devices. i have never successfully unlocked a device from them. they will run circles of confusion around you just so you won't unlock.
G920P to GSM
localphit said:
Okidoki. I have spent some time working on unlocking a Spring Galaxy S6 SM-G920P with stock firmware ending in QB1. At first I found out that US carriers now have to unlock your phone if you ask. At first I went that route as it seemed legit. I called Spring and got a guy on the phone from tech support. I gave him the DEC# on the back of the phone and he said "Great thanks.....its unlocked." I though sick!...went to AT&T next day and got a nano sim activated. Once entered the phone read "Invalid Sim". I got back on the phone with sprint quit quickly while at AT&T. The lady said she had to send in a ticket to get it unlocked and the guy before definitely did not unlock it. Went home and went online again. Next day the lady called me at 11am and said it was domestically unlocked. I called back an hour later and talked to someone else confirming it was unlocked. Went to sprint, installed new activated sim...."Invalid Sim". Next thing was to root it and try unlocking it myself.
I found out how to root the phone and install custom firmware and whatnot. Its fairly easy, similar to computer basics. Once that was done I unlocked the phone with a little help which was not hard to find. I went to AT&T and BOOM!!! Phone worked RIGHT away. I was blown away. The phone had voice, data, msg, voice mail 3g and lte. Had my fiance put in her google info.....FYI this is my fiances AT&T account and a spare S6 I had that i fixed the screen on. Anyway she put her google account into it and restarted the phone. At the "samsung" logo login little red letters at the top say something about FRP is locked. The way you bypass this is right after you unlock the phone you need to go into the developer options and enable OEM Unlock. This fixes the lockout. But to get back into the phone once you lock it out you have to re root the phone with its original firmware.
It has worked all evening. Thanks Jhoward you gave me that last little boost today to get it working. I know the SM-G920P phone works in every network so I have no idea why people think it can only work on one network. Something I did learn is that these are little computers.....pretty cool!
If anyone needs any more info pm me.
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Hello localphit, can you help me do the same with my Galaxy S6 G920P. Mines in currently on android 7.0 Patch January 1, 2018. Appreciate all the help that you can give.

Verizon unable to unlock my SM-N976V phone

Please move it to correct forum if this is not the right one.
I bought Samsung Galaxy Note Plus 10 5G in Oct 2019 from Verizon (all paid). I ported my number from Verizon to AT&T 5 days ago (after 9 months of using it with Verizon). My account is disconnected from Verizon and I have received the port is completed e-mail from them. AT&T has confirmed that the sim is fully activated.
But Guess what, When I put the sim in mobile it says another carrier is not allowed to be used on this phone ! For last 4 days I have wasted more than 10 hours staying in Verizon store and on call with customer care and they have no idea what is going on ! Customer care says the phone is fully unlocked. After 3 days of constant trying one of the representative said you have to reactivate the old account again and then try unlock again from the backend (which I have no control of !) . And, guess what, none of those good people are reactivating the account.
Verizon store guy doesn't help, just says talk to customer care and customer care says its unlocked so they can't do anything.
What should I do ?
About the only things I can suggest are:
If you have flashed firmware that is not the Verizon carrier firmware then flash it back to Verizon carrier firmware.
If you have disabled any carrier applications on the phone please re-enable them.
Make sure they are attempting to unlock the phone while you are within native Verizon coverage
I am not sure if a non-carrier branded firmware exists for the Note 10+ 5G, but non-carrier firmware has caused network unlocking issues before. The second idea is just in case you may have used a package disabler and disabled something necessary for network unlocking the phone. Last one is from past experiences where I wasn't able to complete phone activation because I wasn't within Verizon's native coverage area. The coverage I was in, while not roaming (or extended area) was not actually native Verizon coverage... I would tend to believe this would possibly be the same for network unlocking the phone.
Otherwise get a hold of Verizon and hound them to get it unlocked. Not much else can be done really... If the phone qualifies for being unlocked they should unlock it.
Filed fcc complaint
I have filed FCC complaint. I never changed anything in the mobile (didn't even know firmware flash was a thing until now when I started looking for solutions), used it for general purpose. I am in the same area where I bought it. Verizon store guy tried everything from simple reset to factory reset wiping everything out but nothing worked.
I have also ordered a prepaid Verizon sim. I will put that in and will try to get the phone unlocked.
I will post my results after 2-3 days.
Thanks for the quick reply !
scottusa2008 said:
About the only things I can suggest are:
If you have flashed firmware that is not the Verizon carrier firmware then flash it back to Verizon carrier firmware.
If you have disabled any carrier applications on the phone please re-enable them.
Make sure they are attempting to unlock the phone while you are within native Verizon coverage
I am not sure if a non-carrier branded firmware exists for the Note 10+ 5G, but non-carrier firmware has caused network unlocking issues before. The second idea is just in case you may have used a package disabler and disabled something necessary for network unlocking the phone. Last one is from past experiences where I wasn't able to complete phone activation because I wasn't within Verizon's native coverage area. The coverage I was in, while not roaming (or extended area) was not actually native Verizon coverage... I would tend to believe this would possibly be the same for network unlocking the phone.
Otherwise get a hold of Verizon and hound them to get it unlocked. Not much else can be done really... If the phone qualifies for being unlocked they should unlock it.
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Got it resolved.
Final Update:
Since I had filed FCC complaint online, Verizon Executive Relations department contacted me and She was able to unlock from her side with the help of 'Technical Management' employee on call.
dagarwal82 said:
I have filed FCC complaint. I never changed anything in the mobile (didn't even know firmware flash was a thing until now when I started looking for solutions), used it for general purpose. I am in the same area where I bought it. Verizon store guy tried everything from simple reset to factory reset wiping everything out but nothing worked.
I have also ordered a prepaid Verizon sim. I will put that in and will try to get the phone unlocked.
I will post my results after 2-3 days.
Thanks for the quick reply !
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No service after unlocking bootloader and new firmware

So I just want to say Ive been on straight talk for probably 12-15 yrs. I thought I knew all the tricks for getting phones to work on certain networks.
I prefer verizon in my location, it has the best coverage but also verizon sims have always been tricky to use on phones I didnt buy from straight talk. In the past Ive been told by straight talk that my phone wasnt compatible with verizon network but then I would just buy a junk $40 verizon/cdma phone, activate the sim in the cheap phone, and then transfer it over to my owned,unlocked,nicer phone and that would be enough to get calls and text. then set a couple APN settings and you have data and mms.
So.... Ive had a verizon sim in my LG G7ulm for 3 or 4 years now...or since it came out in 2018.
I have an unlocked version I bought outright. I cant remember if straight talk let me register it directly on verizon sim or if I had to do the sim swap trick mentioned above but anyway....3 years at least of zero problems.
My phone been stuck on android 8 and running slow so decided to wipe it and flash android 10 firmware. After doing so I can boot the phone and for 20-30 sec it shows its connected to 4g lte but then drops and i have no service at all. Ive tried all network operators/modes, Ive set APN...reboot, Ive tried 6 or 7 various different firmware revisions and this is the same result....no service.
I even went back to stock oreo 8.0.0 firmware but the problem still persists.
I contacted straight talk via chat which always is a laugh because they cant trouble shoot a rock that wont roll downhill and just tells you the device is not compatible. My daughter has this same phone and it worked fine for years as well but she took her sim out to test a different phone and lost it and when she ordered a new one it wouldnt work and they told her the phone was incompatible even though me and her both had these phones working fine for years and know they work.
So is straigt talk just blacklisting my phone? Did reflashing a new firmware cause the tower to re-verify the device and blacklist it or something? I can still pop this sim in my old phone and it connects perfectly fine and has service.
I just dont get it. My daughter when she ordered a new verizon ST sim and activated it her phone did the same thing and they said it wasnt compatible with verizon which is bullsh## because if you activate the sim on a different device then swap it over it works great.
Why do they care what device it is solong as your paying for service?
I dont know whether I should try a new ST verizon sim, ST t-mobil sim, or ST att sim now.... Att always works on these unlocked phones but service is crap in this area with at&t.
Anyone have similar experience or knowledge about this issue?

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