Hi abit weird to ask but why isn't there any loads of customs roms or kernel in note 10 + ? supposedly is a good phone but the amount of roms and kernels avail are just a small handful. Is this due to samsung lockdown the device or less popularity among devs? i could only count 2 roms which are stock and 1 lineageos plus nemesis kernel.
The Snapdragon US models have locked bootloaders and therefore cannot take any roms or kernels. The international (Exynos) models have unlockable bootloaders and the roms you see are for them.
enginuity2 said:
The Snapdragon US models have locked bootloaders and therefore cannot take any roms or kernels. The international (Exynos) models have unlockable bootloaders and the roms you see are for them.
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Yeah i do know that. Is just that for exynos variant there isnt much roms such as havosOS or custom kernels. And threads were pretty much dull or dead. I do understand no etas but some of the threads were like dead or simply no response. Pretty much like a good phone with zero options for custom roms and kernels. I rly do wish some dev out there picked this phone up as a custom project.
I think the high price of the device means people are more afraid to lose their warranties, which results in less demand for custom ROMs and less people being interested in developing them. I'm glad I have yet to bootloader unlock as I'm having the screen replaced under warranty later this week.
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I have a few questions. I'm coming from the att note 3, im not new to the custom rom world at all. This will be my first lg phone. Anything I should know about the flashing process with this phone? Are roms universal? Are there any GPS issues?
From the end-user perspective, there is nothing really unique about flashing ROMs. Just load up into TWRP and do the traditional wipe/flash/reboot routine.
The ROMs for different models are not universal. If you have a D855, stick with the ROMs marked as D855 compatible.
GPS seems to be pretty stable in the custom ROMs (or at least the KitKat ones, no idea about Lollipop). They make take a little longer to get a lock than stock, but it works.
Also, one more note, if you have any device except the D851 (T-Mobile variant): be patient with the devs. Though the device has been out for several months, development for it really only just started. The bootloader "unlock" exploit just got released a few weeks ago, so not many custom ROMs are around yet. If you have a D851, this doesn't apply. It is bootloader unlocked from the factory.
fire219 said:
From the end-user perspective, there is nothing really unique about flashing ROMs. Just load up into TWRP and do the traditional wipe/flash/reboot routine.
The ROMs for different models are not universal. If you have a D855, stick with the ROMs marked as D855 compatible.
GPS seems to be pretty stable in the custom ROMs (or at least the KitKat ones, no idea about Lollipop). They make take a little longer to get a lock than stock, but it works.
Also, one more note, if you have any device except the D851 (T-Mobile variant): be patient with the devs. Though the device has been out for several months, development for it really only just started. The bootloader "unlock" exploit just got released a few weeks ago, so not many custom ROMs are around yet. If you have a D851, this doesn't apply. It is bootloader unlocked from the factory.
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I see. So as of right now the tmo variant has the most support since the bootloader was originally unlocked? Also if you've used a device with TouchWiz how is lg's skin compared to TouchWiz on Samsung phones? Are there any annoyances that you have with this phone?
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I see. So as of right now the tmo variant has the most support since the bootloader was originally unlocked? Also if you've used a device with TouchWiz how is lg's skin compared to TouchWiz on Samsung phones? Are there any annoyances that you have with this phone?
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LG's skin is much closer to stock Android than TouchWiz, and therefore much cleaner. It also seems to be much less bloated. I still prefer the stock look over either, but that's a personal preference thing.
My only real complaint with the phone is that LG added some serious oversharpening in the low level firmware (where ROMs can't touch). It gives everything this strange halo around it, but it's only noticeable most of the time on text. Many people say that the sharpening isn't there at all, which leads me to think that not all models have it (or maybe you just need good near field vision ).
It's been months since m9 was launched but still we find very less development here compared to other recently launched phones .. There isn't any official cyanogenmod projects for the device yet,nor there are many custom kernel options. There aren't much activity in general except on sense rom.. Is it because less and less people have bought m9?
I am sure we would love to see more ROM and kernel options.
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It's been months since m9 was launched but still we find very less development here compared to other recently launched phones .. There isn't any official cyanogenmod projects for the device yet,nor there are many custom kernel options. There aren't much activity in general except on sense rom.. Is it because less and less people have bought m9?
I am sure we would love to see more ROM and kernel options.
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I noticed this however going from S4 to M9 is a huge difference. 2 years there abouts and samsung and a few other brands have a larger fan base who will ALWAYS buy those phones and so development is much more frequent.
Give it time and im sure things will pick up, especially once the CM team crack it and deliver what will undoubtedly be an awesome rom. That will pave the way for more AOSP / CM style roms which im very much looking forward to
have faith mate.
You mean compared to the S6? If you think this place is slow, go check those forums out. Considering how many more of those have sold, compared to the M9, S6 development is dead as a doornail.
From what I've seen, development for anything not Nexus has slowed quite a bit. Not as many people are modding their phones, I think because Android and the manufacturer skins have picked up a lot of the mods people used to want to root for.
That being said, things should pick up once CM is official.
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You mean compared to the S6? If you think this place is slow, go check those forums out. Considering how many more of those have sold, compared to the M9, S6 development is dead as a doornail.
From what I've seen, development for anything not Nexus has slowed quite a bit. Not as many people are modding their phones, I think because Android and the manufacturer skins have picked up a lot of the mods people used to want to root for.
That being said, things should pick up once CM is official.
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The development is slow because of the exynos chipset. IF it was snapdragon, the story wouldn't be the same.
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Roobwz said:
The development is slow because of the exynos chipset. IF it was snapdragon, the story wouldn't be the same.
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The development here is slow because of the 64 bit processor. If it was 32 bit, the story wouldn't be the same.
Most mods have become baked into roms. Hell we can theme easily now. What's the real point of having 70 copies of the same thing.
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what are you talking about there is atleast 10 different ROMs and CM12.1 almost fully working
All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
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I'd say more or less that's probably the best bet but for sure is not 100% occasionally they find a way be it rare imo
I would never say never. I came from a Galaxy S7 Edge, which was eventually rooted when someone released an ENG kernel that could be flashed, allowing root. Of course it was super unstable and caused your phone to lag and overheat, but it was still a thing.
But yeah, the Exynos version is already sporting an unlocked bootloader and legitimate root. If you're really dependent on root, you want the international version. I bought my US/Verizon variant knowing I probably would never be able to root it in any kind of good way.
Why do you need root?
What do you need that doesn't have a non-root solution?
I am just curious.
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Why do you need root?
What do you need that doesn't have a non-root solution?
I am just curious.
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Because I was hoping down the road the of it was possible to root the U
S. version on the s20+ that we might possible be a to run a custom rom on it from the international s20+ model.Bit I'm just a ignorant noob that do know anything.and I really like running custom roms if at all possible.I'am very sorry for boring you with my stupid question and answer.sorry...
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Because I was hoping down the road the of it was possible to root the US. version on the s20+ that we might possibly be able to run a custom rom on it from the international s20+ model. But I'm just a ignorant noob that do know anything and I really like running custom roms if at all possible. I am very sorry for boring you with my stupid question and answer.sorry...]
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No need to apologize. Some people have solid reasons for rooting. I was a crackflasher years ago, back when OEM skins were janky and lacked basic features. Custom ROMs filled a void that was desperately needed. Nowadays, OEM skins are significantly improved and offer a lot of customization and practical options.
Having said that, I wouldn't hold my breath for Snapdragon models to get a bootloader unlock. Snapdragon has become a tough nut to crack, and Exynos has traditionally been more mod-friendly. So if you want custom ROMs, get the Exynos model.
Edit: Before buying, you should know the Exynos model appears to get worse battery life than Snapdragon. So you must decide which is more important: Custom ROMs, or longer battery.
If you are in the US, you should also determine if the Exynos model supports all the bands used by your carrier.
Hi,
I realized that custom rom support is very minimal(if not non-existent) for almost all samsung devices. That could be due to the Exynos soc and closed sources. But this device comes with snapdragon soc. It also appears like samsung has released the source too (https://opensource.samsung.com/uploadSearch?searchValue=sm-m51), not sure how useful it might be. So, what are the chances for getting a good custom support for this device?
On a side note, a general question - what would make a device more custom rom developer friendly?
-> kernel sources?
-> easy to unlock?
-> more userbase?
-> anything else?
I am asking this because there are other samsung devices m40(zero roms), a70(few, but all unofficial/discontinued) which come with snapdragon and have sources but little to no custom roms. What was the underlying reason? (just interested in knowing)
Thank you
The odds are generally low with Samsung, partially because of Knox.
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The odds are generally low with Samsung, partially because of Knox.
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1. Did I do a mistake?
I held back buying other better Samsung phones just because those have Exynos and worried about Dev support.
I am not too optimistic of getting Android 12 from Samsung for this device. I always hoped of Dev support for this because of SD.
2. Though this phone has no feature that requires Knox, it still has Knox inside. Any idea why?
raghu13uk said:
1. Did I do a mistake?
I held back buying other better Samsung phones just because those have Exynos and worried about Dev support.
I am not too optimistic of getting Android 12 from Samsung for this device. I always hoped of Dev support for this because of SD.
2. Though this phone has no feature that requires Knox, it still has Knox inside. Any idea why?
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I think even if Knox is an issue, we still get many custom ROMs on Samsung flagship phones. so I would assume it should be possible to have a workaround on that. I am not sure though.
knox seems to be a big thing against samsung phone modifications, but well, i'm using lineage 17.1 right now on this phone
I don't see separate sub-forums for ROMs and recoveries etc. Just wondering what happened to this phone? The root is available. So, why is ROM development not there?
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I don't see separate sub-forums for ROMs and recoveries etc. Just wondering what happened to this phone? The root is available. So, why is ROM development not there?
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Root is not available on all versions. There is no unlocking the bootloaders on the US versions.
Oh... And there is this.
[13][ROM][sGSI][CWAI+][Exynos2200] Pixel Experience Plus
Pixel Experience Plus "s"GSI DISCLAIMER I am not to be held responsible for any damage that might come to your device while trying to install or using this rom. This is your own responsibility. What is this? Pixel Experience is an AOSP based...
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Latest Samsung phones are not really friendly towards custom roms and third-party modifications. S20 is advancing at a really low pace compared to S10 and S9 series, which recieved a lot of love from the community. Maybe, if you're truly interested in custom rom development, you should get a phone from another brand (OnePlus, Google, etc..)
Tbh considering how long Samsung is supporting their phones currently i do not miss custom ROM's that much..
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Tbh considering how long Samsung is supporting their phones currently i do not miss custom ROM's that much..
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I feel the same way. I would only bother with a custom rom if SOT was a few hours higher.
Custom ROMs will make changes to your device that cannot be undone. You might have issues later if you want to use company resources on your phone for your job. Also ROMS have really improved a lot the last years. Personally I don't miss custom ROMs anymore on my S22+. Even on my previous S8+ I was really satisifed with stock roms. The only thing I miss today is good ad-blocking. But not enough to 'partially break' my device.
If you can't live with Samsung's bloat, then you need a custom ROM