Medical app not compatible - is it potentially achievable for me to get it to work? - OnePlus 7T Questions & Answers

Hi,
I use continuous glucose monitoring to monitor my blood sugar, as I am a type 1 diabetic. The CGM I use uses Bluetooth to sync with an app (Medtronic's Guardian Connect app) and gives blood sugar data, safety alerts etc., but this app is only compatible with selected Android phones, which doesn't include any Oneplus phones. I really like the Oneplus 7t so I would rather not sell it if possible, so I was thinking of trying to make it compatible with the Oneplus and removing the phone model block. This has been done before with a different medical manufacturer's CGM app ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/medical-app-compatibility-t4015519 ), so I think it should be possible. Given my lack of programming ability, I was wondering if there are resources anywhere that might help with learning how to do this? Obviously they're not going to tell me "This is how you make this specific app work", but I'm just hoping to find some general resources on this type of coding. I have searched around with no success as I am not sure where to look. I gather it would take more than simply changing the buildprop file to trick the app into thinking it's a compatible phone.
Thanks.

Would help to know the app and what issues you're having. Is it not showing up in the play store? Does it give an error?

ziddey said:
Would help to know the app and what issues you're having. Is it not showing up in the play store? Does it give an error?
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Sorry, not sure how I managed to omit all those details. The app is Guardian Connect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect&hl=en). I am able to download it, but when I open it it says "incompatible with your device", as it's only officially compatible with a limited subsection of Android phones (https://guardianconnect.medtronic-diabetes-mena.com/en_gb/app-compatibility). However, the Dexcom app that I linked in the first post also has limited compatibility, yet people have managed to get it to work with other android phones, so I'm cautiously optimistic that it will be possible for me to do the same.
I can't link URLs properly yet as I'm a new user, so I had to add those spaces in the links.
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Riveon said:
Sorry, not sure how I managed to omit all those details. The app is Guardian Connect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect&hl=en). I am able to download it, but when I open it it says "incompatible with your device", as it's only officially compatible with a limited subsection of Android phones (https://guardianconnect.medtronic-diabetes-mena.com/en_gb/app-compatibility). However, the Dexcom app that I linked in the first post also has limited compatibility, yet people have managed to get it to work with other android phones, so I'm cautiously optimistic that it will be possible for me to do the same.
I can't link URLs properly yet as I'm a new user, so I had to add those spaces in the links.
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Hello. Just wanted to inform you that I inserted the working links on your behalf (at least I assumed so).
I hope you'll find a solution for the issue soon.

Oswald Boelcke said:
Hello. Just wanted to inform you that I inserted the working links on your behalf (at least I assumed so).
I hope you'll find a solution for the issue soon.
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Thanks for that

I have diabetes and want to use this app for checking my blood glucose level continiously on my oneplus 8pro phone but the app says its not compatible with the device. I don't know how to solve this problem.
Is there anybody who can help us with this?

Have you you guys tried to email the developer of the app to fix this?

I have diabetes and want to use this app for checking my blood glucose level continiously on my oneplus 8pro phone but the app says its not compatible with the device. I don't know how to solve this problem.
Is there anybody who can help us with this?

v.konvict said:
Have you you guys tried to email the developer of the app to fix this?
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Yep, they weren't helpful at all though, unfortunately - they just gave a generic "keep an eye on the compatible device list" response. In the end I gave up and sold a Oneplus and got a Samsung.

Hi!
I just had contact with medtronic Belgium and they said; the more people call us the more 'problem cases' go to the IT'ers in America. So they mean how faster the problem will be solved so just give them a call
Greetings

https://m.apkpure.com/guardian-connect-us/com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect.us/download?from=details
Needs stock, unrooted, bootloader locked, oos10

How can we fake the phone ID for an app?

HueyT said:
https://m.apkpure.com/guardian-connect-us/com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect.us/download?from=details
Needs stock, unrooted, bootloader locked, oos10
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Can this unlocking of phone be done for two other apps from Medtronic as listed below please?
CareLink™ Connect - Apps on Google Play
Diabetes data sharing
play.google.com
MiniMed™ Mobile - Apps on Google Play
Insulin pump display
play.google.com
Same error message as original post...
I am using an Asus ROG 5s Pro
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help

Can't use unlocked bootloader or rooted phones for medical apps as less secure

volkslove said:
Can this unlocking of phone be done for two other apps from Medtronic as listed below please?
CareLink™ Connect - Apps on Google Play
Diabetes data sharing
play.google.com
MiniMed™ Mobile - Apps on Google Play
Insulin pump display
play.google.com
Same error message as original post...
I am using an Asus ROG 5s Pro
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help
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https://apkpure.com/developer/Medtronic%2C%20Inc.
Here is the list of all Medtronic's apps. Download the APK, then select the file from your Downloads folder in the Files app.
You may be prompted about the app being from an unknown source or risk to your device. Ignore the warning, tap OK, yes, or allow if prompted.
Hope this helps and as the post above already said I would consider calling Medtronic customer service and asking them to make the app available to all phones.

KemikalElite said:
https://apkpure.com/developer/Medtronic%2C%20Inc.
Here is the list of all Medtronic's apps. Download the APK, then select the file from your Downloads folder in the Files app.
You may be prompted about the app being from an unknown source or risk to your device. Ignore the warning, tap OK, yes, or allow if prompted.
Hope this helps and as the post above already said I would consider calling Medtronic customer service and asking them to make the app available to all phones.
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Was actually hoping for a work around to use on phones that are not on the compatible list, i.e. for the app to not check for phone compatibility before starting.

volkslove said:
Can this unlocking of phone be done for two other apps from Medtronic as listed below please?
CareLink™ Connect - Apps on Google Play
Diabetes data sharing
play.google.com
MiniMed™ Mobile - Apps on Google Play
Insulin pump display
play.google.com
Same error message as original post...
I am using an Asus ROG 5s Pro
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help
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I second this; rooted OnePlus 8 Pro running an A12 custom ROM
Personally I've actually come pretty close and was able to hide both Root and Developer Options from being detected using XPrivacyLua, but was unable to get MagiskProps working properly to get around the final "Your Phone is Incompatible" by spoofing as a Google Pixel (one of the primary "approved" devices) message, even after trying multiple older APKs combined with clearing data/cache

Zilch163 said:
I second this; rooted OnePlus 8 Pro running an A12 custom ROM
Personally I've actually come pretty close and was able to hide both Root and Developer Options from being detected using XPrivacyLua, but was unable to get MagiskProps working properly to get around the final "Your Phone is Incompatible" by spoofing as a Google Pixel (one of the primary "approved" devices) message, even after trying multiple older APKs combined with clearing data/cache
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Thanks.
Actually the logic behind limiting the compatible devices boggles my mind because, other than replicating the screen of the insulin pump and sending data downloaded from the pump to health care providers, the app does not allow pump to accept commands from external devices. So I do not see what the concern is with allowing more devices to use the app...

volkslove said:
Thanks.
Actually the logic behind limiting the compatible devices boggles my mind because, other than replicating the screen of the insulin pump and sending data downloaded from the pump to health care providers, the app does not allow pump to accept commands from external devices. So I do not see what the concern is with allowing more devices to use the app...
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There is no logic, just retarded medical industry bureaucracy BS.
I've contacted customer support multiple times and asked them the same question, only to get the same useless response of pretending to "pass on my feedback".
It's actually one of the reasons I wanna find out how to work around the problem even more; like who needs them to take proper control of a medical device that I own.
Would also be amazing to get a Wear OS app that displays the same or similar information to the app, but I don't see that being made by Medtronic for at least a decade.

Zilch163 said:
I second this; rooted OnePlus 8 Pro running an A12 custom ROM
Personally I've actually come pretty close and was able to hide both Root and Developer Options from being detected using XPrivacyLua, but was unable to get MagiskProps working properly to get around the final "Your Phone is Incompatible" by spoofing as a Google Pixel (one of the primary "approved" devices) message, even after trying multiple older APKs combined with clearing data/cache
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Hi! Im struggling with getting this app working on my rooted xiaomi. Do you remember how exactly did you bypass those checks with xprivacylua?

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WaveSecure - Free for Life/Device Lifetime Android Only

Hey guys, thought you might all find this sueful as I have and I find the pplication to run very well.
http://wavesecure.com
http://m.wavesecure.com - Anyone brosing on their phone can get it straight.
Or alternatively check the Market for it ...
I'm guessing it has to be installed on the phone before March 31 to get the free for lifetime offer, so for those of us still waiting for our Desires it won't be free.
However, I am unsure how much use this app has, since a hard reset is always an option. After that, the phone can be sold (or used) "as new" by the perp. Granted, your personal data is safe in this case, but to make the phone unuseable, you'll have to get the IMEI banned with the network.
Hardreset seems to be the only way to remove it but then again how many people get a phone and hardreset it before it even boots?
If you're quick enough and the person is slow enough you may be able to get the location of the phone.
As it's free I thought it might help even a little in such situations ...
The end date is a major shame . The good think is though it works on other devices, may be possible to ask them to transfer from one device to another.
A knowledgeable thief would probably do a hard reset, but at least your personal data (that is not on the memory card, that is) is safe that way.
I've sent them an email asking about the end date and whether it has to be installed on the phone before that date to be valid. I'll report back when/if I get an answer.
O and O said:
Hardreset seems to be the only way to remove it
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According to the FAQs on their website -
"On Symbian and Windows Mobile phones, you will be prompted to put in your PIN before you can uninstall the application. On Android and BlackBerry phones, WaveSecure can be uninstalled without a PIN."
norm2002 said:
According to the FAQs on their website -
"On Symbian and Windows Mobile phones, you will be prompted to put in your PIN before you can uninstall the application. On Android and BlackBerry phones, WaveSecure can be uninstalled without a PIN."
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There is an app on the Market to combat this, if you uninstall either it will lock and you need to put your pin in ...
Hey guys,
I figured out how I can get WaveSecure for free before the end date and without having the Desire yet. Basically I have a dual boot with Android on my Diamond 2 and I installed WaveSecure on that from the Android market and registered my phone and SIM with it. When you go on the WaveSecure website, login to your account then go settings and there is a disconnect option. From there you can disconnect the current phone from the account and connect a new one. So when I buy a SIM free desire I will put my current SIM in it and change the device from the website.
Hope this helps some of you.
That's REALLY impressive. Nice find!
I downloaded the .apk using a Spoofed User Agent on Firefox to make the Wavesecure website believe I was browsing using the Android Browser.
I assume I would have to install this on an Android device to qualify me for the free subscription?
StuMcBill said:
I downloaded the .apk using a Spoofed User Agent on Firefox to make the Wavesecure website believe I was browsing using the Android Browser.
I assume I would have to install this on an Android device to qualify me for the free subscription?
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StuMcBill said:
I downloaded the .apk using a Spoofed User Agent on Firefox to make the Wavesecure website believe I was browsing using the Android Browser.
I assume I would have to install this on an Android device to qualify me for the free subscription?
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Yes ...
... Is it OS exclusive ... you need to install the application ...
Excellent, thanks!!

[Guide] Activate Windows 8 Permanently

UPDATE: Personalization does NOT work in METRO. Everything works flawlessly and I tend to stay in desktop mode so I didn't realize this. DESKTOP MODE CAN BE PERSONALIZED. This still gives you enables everything I wanted so I don't see the problem. My metro background doesn't matter to me. I can also just install a win7 start menu, but again I have no issues and this works flawlessly.
A tool called "Windows 8 Activator For Build 9200 (Sep 2012)" (Google it, LINK BELOW) will permanently activate Windows 8. Specifically the latest build. Just run it and follow the simple instructions.
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atrix4g18 said:
Let me know if we can't post this guide even though it is just providing information and no links to anything.
A tool called "Windows 8 Activator For Build 9200 (Sep 2012)" (Google it, LINK BELOW) will permanently activate Windows 8. Specifically the latest build. Just run it and follow the simple instructions.
If this doesn't comply with forum rules let me know. There is another thread describing how to remove activation watermark and notification, this does the same thing but actually removes it instead of hiding it.
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The comments seem to be all over the place, I don't see definite proof it will work.
Isn't this classed as warez and is completely banned by xda, why would you want to steal windows 8 anyway? The upgrades only like £20 & I've tried the rtm on a friends pc, its awesome!
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eZaCx said:
The comments seem to be all over the place, I don't see definite proof it will work.
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idk what to say. I'm no expert tell me a way to show you that my windows 8 copy is fully activated and I'll show you. It worked perfect you dont't need anything complicated. It opens command prompt and works.
scaryshark said:
Isn't this classed as warez and is completely banned by xda, why would you want to steal windows 8 anyway? The upgrades only like £20 & I've tried the rtm on a friends pc, its awesome!
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Understood. However for people who want to use all the features so they download the newest build (9200) but they run into activation watermarks and notifications. When Windows 8 comes out (October 26th) aka a long time from know, I will most likely buy a licence if not a Surface.
For now however this works. This gives you Windows 8 as it will be on October 26th. working perfectly. I have it on my Acer Aspire One 722 netbook and it works flawlessly AMD has a consumer driver preview for Windows 8 and everything runs smooth.
Apparently this still won't let you personalize. OP pm me plz.
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ptesmoke said:
Apparently this still won't let you personalize. OP pm me plz.
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What do people mean "won't let your personalize."? Is there something I am missing?
Also OP, how do you know it was permanently installed, and not 90/180 days?
>Isn't this classed as warez
No, it's classified as malware, as in "let's infect all the dumb pirates desperate for keys". Kiddies need to learn about social engineering at some point, and this is a good time as any.
ptesmoke said:
Apparently this still won't let you personalize. OP pm me plz.
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Same problem here, please contact me if you found a solution.
it doesn't let you personalize because Win8 isn't really activated, even though the messages tell you it is. The system files have been tempered with. Read more on MDL about this. It has been shown many times that it fakes activation.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...if-any/page466?p=630762&viewfull=1#post630762
if you do a sfc /scannow and reboot you will see that your system is not activated. If you feel comfortable with it you can keep the files, however you need to realize that you are in fact not activated.
(to find out whether personalization works or not, got to the metro screen, move mouse bottom right corner to open settings in the charm bar, at the bottom you see Change PC settings, try to personalize Lock screen, start screen, account picture - if you are activated you have no problems here, if you are not it's likely greyed out)
best solution to get activated at the moment is to wait for a KMS server or wait until Oct26 to purchase it. You can try to register a PC you may purchase or already purchased here and hope that you only have to pay $15 when it comes out (for a PC you haven't actually purchased). It may or may not work. Many believe that MS won't be able to check that many registered PCs to see if these have actually been recently purchased. We will see.
good luck
eZaCx said:
What do people mean "won't let your personalize."? Is there something I am missing?
Also OP, how do you know it was permanently installed, and not 90/180 days?
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Windows, not the program confirmed it was permanently activated. This is not kms... this is all done locally.
e.mote said:
>Isn't this classed as warez
No, it's classified as malware, as in "let's infect all the dumb pirates desperate for keys". Kiddies need to learn about social engineering at some point, and this is a good time as any.
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484 thanks? And you are that ignorant? Please grow up. This requires build 9200. Not the consumer version and it works flawlessly.
9200 build, is it a final version ?
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derausgewanderte said:
it doesn't let you personalize because Win8 isn't really activated, even though the messages tell you it is. The system files have been tempered with. Read more on MDL about this. It has been shown many times that it fakes activation.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...if-any/page466?p=630762&viewfull=1#post630762
if you do a sfc /scannow and reboot you will see that your system is not activated. If you feel comfortable with it you can keep the files, however you need to realize that you are in fact not activated.
(to find out whether personalization works or not, got to the metro screen, move mouse bottom right corner to open settings in the charm bar, at the bottom you see Change PC settings, try to personalize Lock screen, start screen, account picture - if you are activated you have no problems here, if you are not it's likely greyed out)
best solution to get activated at the moment is to wait for a KMS server or wait until Oct26 to purchase it. You can try to register a PC you may purchase or already purchased here and hope that you only have to pay $15 when it comes out (for a PC you haven't actually purchased). It may or may not work. Many believe that MS won't be able to check that many registered PCs to see if these have actually been recently purchased. We will see.
good luck
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Interesting. I am not losing any functionality however so can you explain more? I don't see that personalization menu but I can personalize themes and stuff exactly like windows 8. Games work, net framework is functioning so I don't see what I'm missing out on...
UPDATE: Personalization does NOT work in METRO. Everything works flawlessly and I tend to stay in desktop mode so I didn't realize this. DESKTOP MODE CAN BE PERSONALIZED. This still gives you enables everything I wanted so I don't see the problem. My metro background doesn't matter to me. I can also just install a win7 start menu, but again I have no issues and this works flawlessly.
atrix4g18 said:
UPDATE: Personalization does NOT work in METRO. Everything works flawlessly and I tend to stay in desktop mode so I didn't realize this. DESKTOP MODE CAN BE PERSONALIZED. This still gives you enables everything I wanted so I don't see the problem. My metro background doesn't matter to me. I can also just install a win7 start menu, but again I have no issues and this works flawlessly.
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the more important point is that you are not activated. System files have been replaced and sooner than later with a Windows Update these files will be fixed. Just letting you know and that you are aware of it. The system "fakes" activation - period. It spoofs some strings and flips some "switches" to make things appear that you are activated when in fact you are not.
You can do everything else without Win8 activation as well and use the system forever. You have the watermark and a reminder to activate. You can remove the watermark and activation reminder with the remover somebody made . However, that patch will not report that you are activated, it will only remove watermark and bypass activation message. Your OP reports on a nasty (not only my opinion) patch that replaces some system files that actually fake activation. You should at least change the statement that it will permanently activate Windows8, this is not true and has been proven to be fake (see MDL posts).
I personally don't like patches that replace system files that I am not aware of and that claim to give you activation when in fact it replaces text within dll's that fool you. If you want to be informed on how to activate Win8 I suggest reading the MDL forum about Win8 activation.
atrix4g18 said:
484 thanks? And you are that ignorant? Please grow up. This requires build 9200. Not the consumer version and it works flawlessly.
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as much as I don't like his attitude, he is correct that it is malware.
It is not ACTIVATED! I downloaded to try and downloaded Microsoft something. I forget what its called but it checks for stuff on your computer that is not activated and Windows 8 was on there and said Windows 8 is not genuine. SO there you go.
I did manage to activate it permanently though by getting a serial number off a youtube vid and activate via UK Microsoft number and worked WITH personalize working!!!!
THIS IS ILLEGAL. DO NOT POST CRACKS FOR ACTIVATING WINDOWS.

Ignore/hide app update

I have an app (calorie counter) that keeps showing a notification there is an update. I don't want to update it because the new permissions seem intrusive (allowing hardware controls - take picture and video).
Does anyone know how I can disable getting a notification about the update?
Cheers,
Open Google play, go to settings and uncheck " notifications" option.
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That will turn off notifications for all apps though, which I'd rather not do.
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Gucci.Nexus said:
That will turn off notifications for all apps though, which I'd rather not do.
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You could use titanium backup to disassociate the app with the Google Play store. I've personally never done it myself, but I think this is the solution you're looking for
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Gucci.Nexus said:
That will turn off notifications for all apps though, which I'd rather not do.
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You can also specify it on a per app basis. Just open the app in Google play and uncheck the checkbox.
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Petrovski80 said:
You can also specify it on a per app basis. Just open the app in Google play and uncheck the checkbox.
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No, you can't
The only check box is for Automatic Updates, not update notifications.
Go to settings, apps, select the app, uncheck notifications.
Solution by using ZipSigner 2
I just came across a solution (android.stackexchange.com/a/25527)
If you've got root access and have the original apk of the version you want to keep at hand (via Titanium backup or copied out of your \data\app folder), you can use ZipSigner 2 to give that apk a different key (auto-testkey).
When you install the apk with its new key, the Play Store will not recognize the installed app and will therefore not try to search or push any updates. :good:
ZipSigner 2 is available for free in the Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2
If you have root, you can simply use ti backup to detach an app from the market.
It was assumed op doesn't have root though.
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Petrovski80 said:
If you have root, you can simply use ti backup to detach an app from the market.
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It was my understanding that detaching an app in Titanium does not work anymore since an update from Google Play has more checks on the server side.
http://www.titaniumtrack.com/changelog/titanium-backup/4-8-4-1
Djezpur said:
I just came across a solution (android.stackexchange.com/a/25527)
If you've got root access and have the original apk of the version you want to keep at hand (via Titanium backup or copied out of your \data\app folder), you can use ZipSigner 2 to give that apk a different key (auto-testkey).
When you install the apk with its new key, the Play Store will not recognize the installed app and will therefore not try to search or push any updates. :good:
ZipSigner 2 is available for free in the Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2
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Thanks for this. What a quick and easy solution. Now I can keep the old Foursquare without getting it automatically updated to that new version.
Please note: ZipSigner 2 does not require root!
The solution probably still works. Thanks for the hint!
Now I did test it.
1. Use App Backup and Restore to save the apk
2. Use Zipsigner to give the apk a different autokey
3. Uninstall original app
4. Install the apk modified by Zipsigner, you may need some file manager like TotalCommander for this
It is all possible without root and works well
Gucci.Nexus said:
I have an app (calorie counter) that keeps showing a notification there is an update. I don't want to update it because the new permissions seem intrusive (allowing hardware controls - take picture and video).
Does anyone know how I can disable getting a notification about the update?
Cheers,
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I know this is an old thread. And I understand that Ti Backup used to work for detaching an app from Play Store. But I also understand that this works no longer. For those who are interested, I have created an app that does a pretty good job of this. It is called Hide Updates In Play Store. There is a video showing the app at work. It does require a rooted device. Thanks
Let me summarize:
- it costs money
- it needs root
- it needs an additional app
- the solution may not persist if you uninstall the controlling app
All these disadvantages can be avoided by reading just one posting higher ...
tag68 said:
Let me summarize:
- it costs money
- it needs root
- it needs an additional app
- the solution may not persist if you uninstall the controlling app
All these disadvantages can be avoided by reading just one posting higher ...
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You are, of course, correct in the disadvantages. But the above method has its own limitations:
1) I wonder how/if it will work with system apps unless you have root. For instance, I actually wanted to get rid of updates to Google Search since later versions hose-up Utter.
2) It is something of a pain to "undo" since you will loose any settings or data (unless you are VERY CAREFUL) related to the app when you uninstall the "fake-signed" app and re-install the "real" app. Of course, this would also happen during the install of the "fake-signed" app in the first place. In some cases, this may be trivial but in others, it may not. And App Backup/Restore - which I use - fine app - only processes the .apk file.
3) It requires a minimum 2 apps be installed.
4) It isn't terribly easy to do. Developers would likely be able/willing to handle this - or even know what signing is or what to do. But how about others? The first one would be hardest for sure.
Like my solution, it also seems not likely to work with paid apps or apps having in-app purchases. I am not 100% sure, but would guess that the re-signing will mess up most Play Store license checking. Indeed, App Backup/Restore handles these differently and with far less functionality.
Still, for someone who is willing to do it and for those lacking root, the solution suggested above seems like it will work and those who are rooted can certainly save that $1 which can be used to make a one-time purchase of maybe 1/2 cup of coffee at the nearest Starbucks
Cheers!
David, if you would have mentioned the possibility of resigning in the description of your app, maybe even give the manual how to do without your app, I'd much more be willing to believe and support you.
Without that hint it has a little smell of betraying for me, not showing people who do not know better or do not have root that there are cost-free alternatives. But probably I have just to admit that you seem to be good at selling. I usually don't like people who are good at selling.
tag68 said:
David, if you would have mentioned the possibility of resigning in the description of your app, maybe even give the manual how to do without your app, I'd much more be willing to believe and support you.
Without that hint it has a little smell of betraying for me, not showing people who do not know better or do not have root that there are cost-free alternatives. But probably I have just to admit that you seem to be good at selling. I usually don't like people who are good at selling.
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First, I developed and posted my app on Play Store before I even saw this forum thread with its reference to resigning apps. So I was not aware at the time.
Second, I still have not even tried to confirm that the re-signing approach will work (although I can see that it might). I will take the word of the person who posted this technique that it does indeed work. But I now have a solution that I like and use. So I have no real need to find and test other solutions.
Third, there are often many possible solutions to a given problem. In fact, my original approach to this particular problem was done via Tasker and shell scripts. It worked but was not particularly user friendly. I tried to remedy that in my app. It seems you are saying that a person (me) choosing to implement one possible solution must also run down, verify, and advertise all other approaches. If so, I think that is a bit ridiculous and would appreciate a list of examples of app authors who are doing this who you do "believe and support." I do not think it is very common.
Fourth, I found this thread via a google search. I think it is fair to believe others will as well if they are seeking alternative approaches. So they too can learn about the resigning approach and decide for themselves how to proceed. I never claimed (here on in my app) that mine is the only approach. I never say it is the "best" approach. I do not denigrate proponents of other approaches. I only implemented one approach that seemed reasonable to me. I posted here so others who suffer from this weakness in Play Store can, if they wish, can check it out for themselves. Play Store gives buyers 2 hours or so to test the solution and decide if it works for them. If not, they are free to return the app and cancel the sale and charge.
Fifth, if you check my list of apps on Play Store, you will see that they are all very small apps and all are either free or very low cost. All of these apps were the result of my trying to resolve situations that I found personally irritating. I then thought that maybe others would find them useful as well. If you look at the number of installs for all of my apps combined, I think you will find that I am NOT at all good at "selling". Indeed, if the net proceeds from all of my paid apps combined exceeded much more than $300 total it would be a miracle. With programming, testing, and support time this likely works out to be maybe $0.10 per hour. I figure the market for this app will be no larger than my previous apps and at $1 per sale, it will be a while before I can use the proceeds to buy even a six pack of beer (especially after Google takes their cut). So I can hardly be considered a successful salesman. If only that were true! I do sell some of my apps. But truth be told I really do this, not for the money, but so I can show some revenue to the tax authorities so they permit me to write off some computer-related expenses.
I am sorry you feel "betrayed" by me somehow. And I am sorry that you have somehow decided that you don't like me for the rather limited reasons you have managed to list here. I really do not think I have given you or anyone else cause to reach such conclusions. It really makes me kind of sad. But you are entitled to your opinions and I will leave it at that as I walk away in wonder.
You admit that you googled where you could post ads for your app, did not even have a look what was last written in the thread and then sent your ad? In my opinion that IS Spam, nothing else ...
So thank you for the offer, and for staying away from this thread in future. For everyone who needs a good working solution free of cost and less use of resources but with a bit more manual handling of apk-files, have a look at posting #13 of this thread.
Djezpur said:
I just came across a solution (android.stackexchange.com/a/25527)
If you've got root access and have the original apk of the version you want to keep at hand (via Titanium backup or copied out of your \data\app folder), you can use ZipSigner 2 to give that apk a different key (auto-testkey).
When you install the apk with its new key, the Play Store will not recognize the installed app and will therefore not try to search or push any updates. :good:
ZipSigner 2 is available for free in the Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2
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Thank-you! That worked like charm!!

Is there a way to replace TrueCaller?

I tried a number of things to get the Google dialer without success.
For now work with kk dialer, has anyone any idea how to get rid the TrueCaller?
Just don't use TrueCaller?
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Just don't use TrueCaller?
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Thanks for nothing .
I have said that I have kk dialer, to install Google dialer am looking.
Open up the dialler and go to settings, the three dots, The top option is Truecaller you can turn it off
nikoslikos said:
Thanks for nothing .
I have said that I have kk dialer, to install Google dialer am looking.
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I gave you the advice you wanted about Truecaller. As the previous poster stated, you can disable it, or, as I advised, simply not use it. Getting offended because someone took the time out to respond is terrible manners.
You may need to be rooted to remove it and we do not know if you are rooted. We don't know if you are running a Lollipop or Marshamallow ROM either. You have not helped us to help you by not giving us your platform information.
Have you tried to install the Google Dialer from the modular GApps thread?
Be warned that they are targeted to 32bit ROMs. Do a backup!
You could also try CM Next dialer from CM C-Apps package. This also includes Truecaller, but it is trivial to disable it.
I am rooted and am on stock TOS208G with trucaller uninstalled. I replaced with caller ID & call recorder app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.callapp.contacts that I prefer.
I have found the phone does not display whose calling via contacts only by the true caller ap. Have I installed something in error or got a setting wrong please?
Trucaller help in many ways
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It helps in many way to find out spam caller, customer care calls,
and know the number location carrier etc etc
thunderbolt9148 said:
It helps in many way to find out spam caller, customer care calls,
and know the number location carrier etc etc
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Understood, but the poster doesn't want to use it.
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Understood, but the poster doesn't want to use it.
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From what I have found, there is no caller id system on the phone without having one of the various true caller id apps installed.
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From what I have found, there is no caller id system on the phone without having one of the various true caller id apps installed.
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Caller ID is a stock feature of any basic dialer out there (Google/AOSP etc), it should not be dependent on True Caller.
I think True Caller is still on my Swift, so I will test this later.
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Caller ID is a stock feature of any basic dialer out there (Google/AOSP etc), it should not be dependent on True Caller.
I think True Caller is still on my Swift, so I will test this later.
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Uninstall true caller id and see for yourself then, you don't have to trust the contents of members post if you so choose.
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Uninstall true caller id and see for yourself then, you don't have to trust the contents of members post if you so choose.
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I don't have TrueCaller on my device afterall. The dialer is the stock Android dialer and my caller ID works without issues.
What's the packagename for TrueCaller?
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I wonder if I can restart this discussion here -- I want to turn off TrueCaller, but in Google Play it says it's a System App and it does not appear at all under any name in the Settings - Apps listing (no matter whether showing or hiding system apps). What other options do I have?
I'm on Android 7.1.2. My TrueCaller has no options to either turn it off or to turn off the notifications it brings up (which is my main reason for wanting to get rid of it: for something that's blocking spam, it spams me far too much with stuff that I don't want it to do).
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Caller ID is a stock feature of any basic dialer out there (Google/AOSP etc), it should not be dependent on True Caller.
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This should indeed be the case. Unfortunately, for us Swift (1st gen) users at least, this is now broken.
When Wileyfox migrated from CyanogenMod to Android they broke a few things along the way as well as doing a deal with the Devil aka Truecaller.
Unless your device is Truecaller enabled then caller ID simply will not work. We've tested at least two dozen dialers and contact managers (all from Google Play) and not one of them works with the Swift in its current firmware state. We even installed the APK of the Google Phone dialer (provided by WF themselves and which according to Google Play is incompatible anyway) and even this does not work.
Besides, how many dialers does a mobile ecosystem need anyway? One has to ask themselves why there are so many and why they nearly always require OTA registration to do what they offer....
But that's another matter altogether.
There are other issues too such as SMS alerts going off at full volume in the earpiece during an active voicecall; or the persistence of 'charge mode' when connecting via USB, even though MTP has been set in the developer options or from the status pull-down.
One thing it tells us is that the Swift cannot be running stock Android - otherwise these problems just would not happen. If not that, then it is that WF don't have a proper working build process or test protocol.
Either way, the Swift is damaged goods now and it might seem WF are prepared to kick it into the kerb. Probably the best option now is to try Lineage, assuming owners are savvy and even want to.
On the other hand we could band together to oblige WF to get an update released. We have been trying for months to get their attention, both before and since their buyout by STK. For those who are minded to, perhaps you would like to add your support by liking the following Facebook post:-
https://www.facebook.com/officialwileyfox/posts/1872330073078309
If enough give it the thumbs up then WF may be moved to respond. Please support this initiative if you can.
Thanks.
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I wonder if I can restart this discussion here -- I want to turn off TrueCaller, but in Google Play it says it's a System App and it does not appear at all under any name in the Settings - Apps listing (no matter whether showing or hiding system apps). What other options do I have?
I'm on Android 7.1.2. My TrueCaller has no options to either turn it off or to turn off the notifications it brings up (which is my main reason for wanting to get rid of it: for something that's blocking spam, it spams me far too much with stuff that I don't want it to do).
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We think we have found a solution:-
It ought to be possible to disable Truecaller but not remove it entirely unless your phone is rooted and have other management tools. We have managed this is on our own device which is totally stock and never been tinkered with (7.1.2 Nougat, Build No: TOS257G – N2G48B).
Secondly, installing another dialler from Google Play or via APK will work but it's almost 100% likely that a further setting will need to be made: setting as the default phone app.
This can be done in two ways:-
i) Settings->Apps->Configure Apps (Gear icon in top bar).
ii) From the app drawer, drag the dialler app icon to the "App Info" drop zone at the top of the screen. Scroll down to the setting that says "Phone App" - it should be yes or no.
See attached screenshots for reference.
It seems to us that many owners think their Swift can't be used with any dialler other than Truecaller, when in fact they can; the mistake is on the part of the firmware which won't recognise another dialler by default and hence breaks the contact ID display when incoming calls are received (not to be confused with caller ID).
Hopefully this serves as a solution. :good:

Question Android System Intelligence & Private Compute Services

Does anyone else know if Android System Intelligence and Private Compute Services are needed for the Fold 3? I just got an update and it gives the option to uninstall. Anyone uninstall these apps yet and are they necessary?
I have the same question
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I have the same question
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Yeah I've been trying to search around if these are necessary for our phones but so far no one has a definite answer
sguerra923 said:
Does anyone else know if Android System Intelligence and Private Compute Services are needed for the Fold 3? I just got an update and it gives the option to uninstall. Anyone uninstall these apps yet and are they necessary?
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From my Googling, they add features to the OS and used to be in OS updates, but Google moved them to the Play Store so it is easier to update such features/make it so you don't have to go through a big OS update each time they update.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
From my Googling, they add features to the OS and used to be in OS updates, but Google moved them to the Play Store so it is easier to update such features/make it so you don't have to go through a big OS update each time they update.
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Do you think those files are safe to keep?
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Do you think those files are safe to keep?
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Yes, they are from Google, as you can see in the Play Store.
Android device intelligence is used reportedly used for application integration across your device. I.E. copy paste, search, opening links in apps, etc. Also deals with noticifations as well. However, I'm sure it's used for metrics and assists with targeting you with ads. I'm just going to disable mine as a precaution. I'll include a couple links below:
1. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/12112173
2. https://rayofinfamy.com/2021/09/30/android-system-intelligence-definitions-1-and-2/
sparkx86 said:
Android device intelligence is used reportedly used for application integration across your device. I.E. copy paste, search, opening links in apps, etc. Also deals with noticifations as well. However, I'm sure it's used for metrics and assists with targeting you with ads. I'm just going to disable mine as a precaution. I'll include a couple links below:
1. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/12112173
2. https://rayofinfamy.com/2021/09/30/android-system-intelligence-definitions-1-and-2/
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How's your phone running after disabling it?

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