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802.11n includes a number of "optional" features, so how much of it does the Galaxy Nexus actually implement?
My Wifi router supports 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands simultaneously with different SSIDs, but the Galaxy Nexus only ever sees the SSID of the 2.4GHz AP. So I suppose it does not support 802.11n in the 5GHz band?
Also, even when standing right next to the router, it showed only a 65Mbps connection. Shouldn't that go to at least 150Mbps? And actually higher if MIMO is supported?
If the Galaxy Nexus' "802.11n" doesn't support anything better than 2.4GHz band with 65Mbps, it's a fake - 802.11g does 2.4GHz/54Mbps, so the "802.11n"-support boils down to be effectively nothing.
Has anyone managed to get better Wifi results with the Galaxy Nexus?
i think the gnexus is only supposed to support 2.4ghz band if i remember correctly. i get the same, 65mbps. all is good though i get great speeds and more distance. if 5ghz is in the hardware then software doesn't support it yet.
It does support 5ghz. Go to settings and then press wifi. Press the menu on the bottom right and select advanced. Then, wifi frequency band.
Weird... My WNDR3700 running DD-WRT is setup for 2.4 and 5GHz... My MacBook Pro is connected to the 5GHz SSID, but that is not displaying on my available wireless networks on my GNex...
The wifi settings are set to "auto", but even when set to only use 5GHz, it still doens't list it.
I'm connected to my 5GHz network right now so yes it does support it.
SomEngangVar said:
I'm connected to my 5GHz network right now so yes it does support it.
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I'm connected to my 5Ghz network as well, however I'm only seeing 65 Mbps connection speed. Are you seeing a better speed?
Wi-fi performance for file transfers have been pretty abismal. Using the app andFTP and the sftp protocol I can only get about 1300kbps download speeds.
I get a weak WiFi signal on both spectrums compared to my DInc, DX, & DX2.
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My Galaxy Nexus connects to my 5ghz just fine. One problem though, the phone shows signal of my 5ghz lower than the 2.4ghz in the same spot and I'm meters away from my router.
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I have a Cisco E4200 Wireless N Router downstairs, which provides great speed with my Galaxy Nexus. My bedroom is at the other corner of the house, and the signal has poor penetration there. Our house also has poor 3G/4G reception, and in fact, we have to use the Network Extender to get call reliability. So I need to get a better Wireless signal up there.
So, I just bought and installed the Netgear AV200 Powerline Wireless N Extender - the 'base' unit connects to the router downstairs via ethernet, and plugs into a wall socket. The Wireless adapter plugs into a socket in our bedroom, and is able to access the network via powerlines, and generates a strong Wireless N signal.
The problem relates to SSID, signal stength, etc.
Initially, I set up the Netgear adapter to use the same SSID and passphrase as the Cisco Router. Using WiFi analyzer, I can see this signal and it's strong. But my GNexus doesn't connect to it, but remains connected to the 2.4GHz signal coming from downstairs, even though it is much weaker.
I then created a different SSID for the Netgear Wireless Adapter, and a corresponding new WiFi connection on my phone, and it connects fine and gets great signal. But it doesn't seem to want to switch from the weaker downstairs signal, to the stronger upstairs signal, when I go upstairs. I have to manually switch.
So:
Is there any way to configure things to use the same SSID, and have my phone seamlessly switch between the 2 signals, using whichever is the strongest? Why isn't working to begin with?
Or, is there someway to configure the phone so that it readily switches to whichever SSID has the strongest signal?
If this needs to be posted elsewhere, please suggest where.
Thanks.
I cannot speak to the capabilities of Linksys by Cisco gear, but what I can tell is how we combat this issue in a "WiFi dense" area such as stadiums or hospitals. On all of Cisco's enterprise level products, you have the ability to disconnect any client that drops below a certain speed/signal (thus pushing to a closer AP with better signal). So, it a large, WiFi dense area, we would push all clients off an AP that were connecting at say, less than 24Mbit/s in a G environment.
You can try to see if your Linksys product supports that but I doubt it. Maybe a 3rd party firmware is available for your Linksys like DD-WRT that can offer that capability.
The downside to WiFi is, once a client connects, it holds on for dear life.
Thanks for the reply frogskins.
I looked through all the Cisco Router's settings and don't see anything that would enable what you're suggesting.
With a little more observation, it does appear that, with different SSID's at present, my phone will eventually switch to the stronger signal on its own, but it takes a while. As you said, it seems to want to "hold on" but eventually comes to its senses!
Any other thoughts on this, or how to use the same SSID, and have it switch seamlessly? With the same SSID, WiFi Analyzer showed both 2.4 and 5 GHz bands from the Cisco Router, and also the slightly different (2.6 GHz?) band from the Netgear adapter, all with the same SSID, but my phone didn't seem to be using or accessing the Netgear band, even though the signal was dramatically stronger.
Thanks.
G products should all fall within one of the 11 channels allocated within the 2.4GHz range. N products can do either 2.4 and 5Ghz. You should definitely not see anything in the 2.6 range on Wifi Analyzer.
Another thing you could consider is: does the Linksys support external antennas? By using higher gain dipoles or even directional antennas you can boost signal coverage in distant areas of a house or office without using the wireless extender. Lastly, usually products from the same manufacturer work best, ie Linksys AP and Linksys extender. Even though 802.11n is a standard now, interoperability is still an issue.
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Having the same SSID in different devices isnt going to make the phone switch from one to the other. You need to set up one device as an "extender" of the other, if you have already done this, then disregard this post and there is nothing you can easily do to fix your problem as you are running two different networks.
I know for my apple wireless routers, one unit is the base and my second and third units just grab the main signal and extend its reach.
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Having the same SSID in different devices isnt going to make the phone switch from one to the other. You need to set up one device as an "extender" of the other, if you have already done this, then disregard this post and there is nothing you can easily do to fix your problem as you are running two different networks.
I know for my apple wireless routers, one unit is the base and my second and third units just grab the main signal and extend its reach.
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Well, I configured the Netgear Wireless adapter with the same SSID and passphrase as my Linksys E4200 Router.
Is there some other step, on other device, so that the Netgear device is seen as an "extender"?
Also - someone else suggested that the two devices with the same SSID and passphrase must be on separate channels in order for this to work - is that correct?
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Also - someone else suggested that the two devices with the same SSID and passphrase must be on separate channels in order for this to work - is that correct?
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That is 100% correct. Even though most WiFi AP's allow you to select channels 1-11, the only channels that do not overlap at all are 1,6 and 11. To prevent the signal from one device degrading the signal from another, they should be on separate, non-overlapping channels. This goes for any wifi signals you are possible picking up from neighbors, etc too. Run WiFi Analyzer and see what channels would be best to use.
And my apologies, I mis-read your original post. I thought you said the Netgear was an extender, not just another AP. If it is not an extender, then we have other issues to deal with.
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That is 100% correct. Even though most WiFi AP's allow you to select channels 1-11, the only channels that do not overlap at all are 1,6 and 11. To prevent the signal from one device degrading the signal from another, they should be on separate, non-overlapping channels. This goes for any wifi signals you are possible picking up from neighbors, etc too. Run WiFi Analyzer and see what channels would be best to use.
And my apologies, I mis-read your original post. I thought you said the Netgear was an extender, not just another AP. If it is not an extender, then we have other issues to deal with.
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Thanks again.
Regarding the frequencies, WiFi Analyzer shows my Linksys Router as using Channel 11 at 2462 MHz. The Netgear Adapter is shown as using Channel 1 at 2412 MHz. I knew I saw a "6" in there somewhere
The Linksys Router is set to use Channel 11, the Netgear Adapter is set to "Auto" but can be changed to a specific channel if desired.
As for whether the Netgear Adapter is an "extender" or "just another AP" I'll have to confess ignorance. Here's a link to Netgear's page on this:
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/powerline-and-coax/work-and-play/XAVNB2001.aspx
So currently, I have different SSID's for each device, and my phone will switch to the stronger signal eventually, but it seems to take at least 2 to 3 or so minutes to do this.
It makes me wonder that even if I can successfully configure both to the same SSID, if it will switch any faster than this.
Basically, I'd just like to configure things so that my phone quickly and seamlessly switches to the strongest available signal. Any thoughts on the best way to do this, or is it just going to take the phone a few minutes to switch to the better signal?
I've been playing around with WiFi - stock Verizon GN, 4.0.2. Cisco/Linksys E4200 DualBand Router.
Using WiFi Analyzer, my GN sees both 2.4GHz and 5GHZ bands, with the 2.4GHz band being slightly stronger (-46 dBm vs -15 dBm, for example). When WiFi Band Selection is set to Auto, it will connect to 2.4GHz every time. If I change it to 5GHz Band only, it will readily connect to that band.
Using Speedtest.net, I get Download speed of around 6mbps with 2.4GHz, if I force it to use the 5GHz band, I'll get over 30mbps. This was tested 3 times, semi-randomizing the sequence.
The range of 5GHz is obviously less, so it would not be practical to leave it on the 5GHz band only, as I'll need the 2.4GHz elsewhere in my home.
For what it's worth, I'm using Channel 11 on 2.4GHz and Channel 161 on 5GHz. I saw a few threads where only certain 5GHz channels are supported for connection, and those didn't include 161, but mine will connect fine. It's just that it'll go for 2.4GHz when given a choice, and a slight differential in excellent signal strenth.
Is this just the nature of the beast? Anything I can do to have it "prefer" the faster 5GHz band, while allowing it to connect to 2.4GHz when needed?
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Typically when dealing with 2.4Ghz vs 5Ghz, you would assign different SSID's to each. That way you can control which network you associate with. As you already stated, you understand that 2.4Ghz has a greater range than the 5Ghz network.
As we discussed before in the other thread, wifi likes to hold on. However, it will show a preference to 2.4Ghz bands when signal strengths differ.
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Hello again
Typically when dealing with 2.4Ghz vs 5Ghz, you would assign different SSID's to each. That way you can control which network you associate with. As you already stated, you understand that 2.4Ghz has a greater range than the 5Ghz network.
As we discussed before in the other thread, wifi likes to hold on. However, it will show a preference to 2.4Ghz bands when signal strengths differ.
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Very interesting, thanks for the information! I also have the same router and when I return home tonight, I will assign a different SSID to the different bands.
Thanks!
i have two names for my WiFi at home: sausage fingers (2.4) and because racecar (5) lol
frogskins said:
Hello again
Typically when dealing with 2.4Ghz vs 5Ghz, you would assign different SSID's to each. That way you can control which network you associate with. As you already stated, you understand that 2.4Ghz has a greater range than the 5Ghz network.
As we discussed before in the other thread, wifi likes to hold on. However, it will show a preference to 2.4Ghz bands when signal strengths differ.
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Funny running into you here!
I can play around with using different SSID's, but I'm guessing my GN will still choose the 2.4GHz if given the choice, since its signal is a bit stronger. If that's the case, then I'd have to manually have it connect to the 5GHz band anyway, little different from my current situation.
Too bad the WiFi settings don't allow us to prioritize our connection preferences.
Thanks again.
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I have a similar experience
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Just to provide some follow-up here, I was able to more or less improve the situation.
On my Linksys E4200 Router, I changed the SSID on the 5GHz band, and removed the SSID oif the 2.4GHz band on my GNexus. So downstairs, it will automatically see the 5GHz band, and will connect to that, providing superior throughput.
I have the Netgear Wireless Adapter upstairs also on a different SSID (this is a 2.4GHz band), and when I go up there, the 5GHz signal is pretty weak, and so my GNexus switches to this fairly quickly. Not immediately, but pretty quick.
When I return downstairs, same thing - it will switch to the 5GHz signal reasonably quickly, especially if I sit down at my Computer, which is just underneath the Linksys router.
Hope this might be of help to somebody.
Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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it does not. Samsung focus s did. The hd7, lumia 710 and 900 do not.
I can confirm. My Focus S saw and connected to my 5Ghz wireless with no problems.
The Lumia 900 doesn''t even 'see' it.
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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for me , I just want to connect with what's available. But I have the same type of question around camera quality..why do you expect voque quality pics from from a phone camera placed in your pocket.
Your question to the wireless gave tme the perspective for the camera!
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Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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I think it could be useful if you do the "Wireless Sync" option with Zune. 300MB/s internal network speeds would make wireless syncing a lot faster.
But now that I think about it - since wireless syncing usually happens at night, while you're asleep, and your phone is charging... super fast speeds probably aren't need anyway.
simple question does the phone support 5ghz band, im asking because the area i live in is quite crowded on 2.4ghz band.In CM10.2 i can see there is a 5ghz option on wifi settings but there are no 802.11ac routers so i cant test it out
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simple question does the phone support 5ghz band, im asking because the area i live in is quite crowded on 2.4ghz band.In CM10.2 i can see there is a 5ghz option on wifi settings but there are no 802.11ac routers so i cant test it out
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The SoC is capable on 2.4/5GHz on 802.11a/b/g/n but not ac.
5GHz can work on 802.11a/n... It not a 11ac exclusive band, it being around for awhile.