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System-based differences between Redmi Note 5 Pro with Redmi Note 5 AI-dual-camera?

I'm planning on getting a Redmi Note 5 since my old iPhone kept stealing my money due to broken parts and I'm on a tight budget.
The thing is, I don't like MIUI (or any OEM-modified firmware, honestly). So once I get the phone, unlocking bootloader and installing a LOS or RR rom is my very first thing to do, along with some audio mods like V4A or the newly ported Xperia XZ2 sound system.
And since this sub-forum title is REDMI NOTE 5 PRO, but every Redmi Note 5 availablein my country is NOT the "Pro" variant (it only have 13mp front cam unlike the 20mp on the pro), can I use any custom roms or mods on this subforum to a non-pro redmi note 5 device?
Thanks

Yep you can

Short answer yes.
The pro and the Ai are the same the Ai is for the Chinese market just with different carrier frequencies. If your one got the Snapdragon 636 you are right here as in some countries it's just called Redmi Note 5 /global.
Front camera:
China/Global: OmniVision OV13855 13 MP 1.0 μm
India: Sony Exmor RS IMX376 20 MP (f/2.2, 1/2.8", 1.0 μm),

thank you so much for the answers, cheers!

I'm looking to buy a whyred too (upgrading from vince). Does it matter if i get the 6gb or 4gb variant? I mean, from my logic, it shouldn't matter since that is hardware that has nothing to do with custom roms but still.. Can i still get all the custom roms available if i get the 6gb variant one? Or is its hardware different pertaining custom roms?

attitude12 said:
I'm looking to buy a whyred too (upgrading from vince). Does it matter if i get the 6gb or 4gb variant? I mean, from my logic, it shouldn't matter since that is hardware that has nothing to do with custom roms but still.. Can i still get all the custom roms available if i get the 6gb variant one? Or is its hardware different pertaining custom roms?
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You'll still be able to flash any custom roms for whyred if you opt for 6gb ram variant.

Question about "Pro" version

Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!

First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.

Arushidesu said:
First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.
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Really thanks!

It's more likely the global version of the RN5[WHYRED] going by camera specs, the version with the Pro extension is only sold in India!

simon3sce said:
Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!
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PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE

raptorddd said:
PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE
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This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.

peter-k said:
This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.
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right i forgot about apperture LOL.. but yes i think AI is better at low light but pro takes better pictures.. anyways he should be getting the AI.

Thanks to all of you! I decided to buy the RN5, because it has a better processor, a good camera (I think the A1 camera is a little better, but this is still good), but especially because of the great battery.

Coming back to Custom ROMS

I have been away in the wilderness for the past 5 years and I am trying to get back into customs roms.
I purchased from Amazon UK the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, so I assume this is classed is the Pro version.... its 3GB/32GB model
After doing some research on the forum. Is it true to say that the Stock Miui rom is the most stable rom? I am currenly on Miui 10.
Its nice but I would prefer stock android/pixel port with everything working plus gcam.
I Would prefer Oreo until Pie is stable enough, but after doing some further reading I get the feeling that Oreo based roms aren't stable or have I misread.
Thanks

owen1978 said:
I have been away in the wilderness for the past 5 years and I am trying to get back into customs roms.
I purchased from Amazon UK the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, so I assume this is classed is the Pro version.... its 3GB/32GB model
After doing some research on the forum. Is it true to say that the Stock Miui rom is the most stable rom? I am currenly on Miui 10.
Its nice but I would prefer stock android/pixel port with everything working plus gcam.
I Would prefer Oreo until Pie is stable enough, but after doing some further reading I get the feeling that Oreo based roms aren't stable or have I misread.
Thanks
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Been on Pixel Expirience pie for over 2 months, more than stable enough for daily use. Didnt encounter any bugs, everythings working, just heard that cast is not working, but cant confirm as i dont use it. Most stable is ofcourse OEM soft, in this case miui. Wont recommend gcam as its not stable, atleast for global version front camera is bugged. If you start flashing various gcam patches this forum is full of, youll probably end up with same bugged gcam AND it will give you extra troubles, like no sound etc. Pixel Expirience without any modifications and patches works well. Btw "pro" version is only for india, they have different front camera hardware and gcam seems to be working well on it, there is also AI version which is exactly the same as global version, just with less network bands support.

Thanks for the reply...
gsmarena has my phone as a Note 5 Pro its has the 636 chipset.... Am i in the correct forum? should I be in the note 5 / note 5 plus forum???

owen1978 said:
Thanks for the reply...
gsmarena has my phone as a Note 5 Pro its has the 636 chipset.... Am i in the correct forum? should I be in the note 5 / note 5 plus forum???
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No, its the same phone, but as i said, pro moniker is only used in india. Global model is just redmi note 5. Global and chinese versions are identical, apart from global supporting more network bands. Pro version is same as Global, but has different front camera hardware for some reason. If im not mistaken, it has 20mpx, while global/china uses 12mpx front sensor. They all support same roms tho, and all have same codename, which is "whyred". This forum is for whyred. Note5/5 plus is another device, it uses snapdragon 625 and has single back camera. I know, naming scheme is ridiculously confusing, but thats xiaomi, its not the first time. They use different names in different regions, and release many similar devices.

Development potential oft redmi note 8 / redmi note 8 pro

Hi everybody,
I am considering to buy this phone, (rmn8 pro), however it ships with the mediatek G90T processor. in the past my understanding was that ROM development for mediatek based phones is troublesome due to missing sources. Can anyone confirm this issue for me?
Would it therefore be better to buy the non pro version of rthe rmn8 shipping with an snapdragon 655 processor?

Yeah I'd like to know it too.

OK - so it seems that if we want custom ROMs we should go with the non pro version.
Based on xiaomis history and the development activity for the redmi note 3 snapdragon and redmi note 3 mediathek there is a considerable difference.
Furthermore it appears that it took 3 years for xiaomi to release the kernel source for the rmn 3 and the rmn 2 mediatek version. In general it appears that the source release is up to the OEMS - e.g. Xiaomi. Mediathek is known to only distribute the source to customers or people who are willong to pay.
This is kind of disappointing as the pro version of the rmn8 is quite a bit better.
Any other opinions ?

I want the pro version but mtk processor no way ill be buying as I want gcam and custom roms.

I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..

CO.Wildfire.OL said:
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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That could be the case, but I guess it won't happen as they try to create some hype around the new helio chips.

If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.

The phone is very, very good
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.

kounir said:
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
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The problem is that MTK doesn't fully release the sources of their SoC's that's why it has low development here in XDA.

xhqsjzs999999 said:
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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Have you got the phone

n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently

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nicflack said:
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.

naser_cbe said:
Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Well about development, sure note 7 Pro may have better Dev support coz it's an older device but as far as gcam support is concerned, you may be wrong, I'm using note 8 and it's working flawless. At least it's giving much better camera results when compared to poco

girishjangir7 said:
Have you got the phone
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Not sure whether the guys who ordered online received or not. I got the device from an local Mi store on the sale day itself.

Best option for improved camera on Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Exynos

Hi! I'm new here. I am a complete Android upgrade/update/root etc.. virgin. What I'd like to do is if possible. Instead of having to buy a Note 10 for vastly improved camera photo quality. Is there a camera mod for the Note 8 (Exynos) Is there a custom ROM thats known to have a great camera? I do currently have a version of Google Pixel Camera v5 which blows away the stock camera app but Google Camera's on v7 now. Also, is it possible to update my device to Android 10 etc? My goal here is simply, the best possible quality camera/photos. Thank you for any help in advance!