Third party keyboards on the S20 series. - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

In December 2019, Samsung has disabled third party keyboards if using Knox / Work profile. (www.shorturl.at/bsFJK). Admin has to enable a third party keyboard for it to be used (which my IT group refuses to do so I am stuck on the default Samsung keyboard on my S10+ which is terrible).
Samsung also said that this will reversed in the upcoming update and third party keyboards will again be allowed, unless blacklisted by the admin.
Can anyone tell me whether they are able to use third party keyboards on their S20 / S20+ / ultra?
Thank you.

avid_droid said:
I use Gboard
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Is this with Microsoft Intune or the Intelligent Hub or how is the work profile managed? May I ask you which version of Knox you have?
If it works under 3.5 then presumably they have fixed the issue and third party keyboards can be used again which would be great news.

jamike77 said:
In December 2019, Samsung has disabled third party keyboards if using Knox / Work profile. (www.shorturl.at/bsFJK). Admin has to enable a third party keyboard for it to be used (which my IT group refuses to do so I am stuck on the default Samsung keyboard on my S10+ which is terrible).
Samsung also said that this will reversed in the upcoming update and third party keyboards will again be allowed, unless blacklisted by the admin.
Can anyone tell me whether they are able to use third party keyboards on their S20 / S20+ / ultra?
Thank you.
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Is this being controlled by work place admin?
For example I used to connect my workplace email to samsung email and to connect to the outlook server it implemented many policies to my phone, which restricted many things, and among the things restricted is usage if third party keyboard.
To work around this i just installed outlook app on the phone and removed the outlook from my samsung email. It removed the restriction and all those policies implemented by IT department. I can even use my third party keyboard (swift) now on outlook app.
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Yeah that doesn't work for me. Outlook communicated with Intune and the Intelligent Hub and unless they all sit in the work profile I can't access my emails.
Will need to wait until a fix is included in the next version of Knox.

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[Q] AOSP Email on Note 8.0

Does anyone have a working AOSP email app for Note 8.0? I dont like the stock Samsung client but I need Exchange ActiveSync support which many third party apps don't have.

[Q] Email digital signature and encryption

I have a couple Email Digital Certificates (.p12) that I use to sign and encrypt emails from my desktop. I would like to start using them on my phone, but cannot seem to find any options in the native HTC Email app. I got them installed in the security settings on the phone, but just cannot find an option to use them in my emails. I have also tried using K-9, but cannot find an option within that app either.
So, is there any way to digitally sign and/or encrypt emails within the native email app?
If not, are there any reputable, trustworthy 3rd party apps in the app store that have this capability?
Oh and not sure if it actually matters, but I have the VZW variant One M8....
Thanks in advance,
Kratos
king kratos said:
I have a couple Email Digital Certificates (.p12) that I use to sign and encrypt emails from my desktop. I would like to start using them on my phone, but cannot seem to find any options in the native HTC Email app. I got them installed in the security settings on the phone, but just cannot find an option to use them in my emails. I have also tried using K-9, but cannot find an option within that app either.
So, is there any way to digitally sign and/or encrypt emails within the native email app?
If not, are there any reputable, trustworthy 3rd party apps in the app store that have this capability?
Oh and not sure if it actually matters, but I have the VZW variant One M8....
Thanks in advance,
Kratos
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I think I finally figured this out. Android (for some very strange reason) doesn't actually support digital signatures or encryption with email natively. Therefore, one MUST use a third party app to process encrypted or digitally signed emails.
I have checked out R2Mail2 as a possible solution and am thus far liking it. There were a couple other options (but only a couple I could find) and they either had very low reviews or were requesting permissions that just didn't make sense. In fact one of them actually tried to explain why they needed permissions to view call logs, but weren't convincing enough for me so I skipped over it.
I also have a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and it supposedly supports certificates natively (something Samsung added themselves), but I guess it doesn't support S/MIME with the .p12 extension as it continues to tell me that there are no files found on my device.
If anyone has any other solutions that are better than having to use (and pay for) a 3rd party app, please do tell.
Thanks Kratos
king kratos said:
I think I finally figured this out. Android (for some very strange reason) doesn't actually support digital signatures or encryption with email natively. Therefore, one MUST use a third party app to process encrypted or digitally signed emails.
I have checked out R2Mail2 as a possible solution and am thus far liking it. There were a couple other options (but only a couple I could find) and they either had very low reviews or were requesting permissions that just didn't make sense. In fact one of them actually tried to explain why they needed permissions to view call logs, but weren't convincing enough for me so I skipped over it.
I also have a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and it supposedly supports certificates natively (something Samsung added themselves), but I guess it doesn't support S/MIME with the .p12 extension as it continues to tell me that there are no files found on my device.
If anyone has any other solutions that are better than having to use (and pay for) a 3rd party app, please do tell.
Thanks Kratos
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No one has any ideas about native S/MIME support?
Kratos
I've been looking into this for a while... and I think you already found the best solution. R2Mail2 handles both S/MIME and PGP. I haven't seen any other good options for S/MIME. K9 + APG can give you PGP. There used to be a simple native mail app that would do PGP, but it looks like thats been pulled by Google.

OP3 after 5 days, struggling to get on track

Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
- use google keep for memo (its better)
- tons of options for email, you can use Gmail for starters (even for Microsoft Exchange), or check out BlueMail if you want to try a third party.
if you're trying to get these on stock OOS with no root/xposed:
- create a contact called SPAM and add callers you want to block to that, then make that contact's calls all go to voicemail
if you're willing to unlock BL & root:
- Flash Google Dialer w/ framework to block callers
- use Root Call Blocker
2x4 said:
- use google keep for memo (its better)
- tons of options for email, you can use Gmail for starters (even for Microsoft Exchange), or check out BlueMail if you want to try a third party.
if you're trying to get these on stock OOS with no root/xposed:
- create a contact called SPAM and add callers you want to block to that, then make that contact's calls all go to voicemail
if you're willing to unlock BL & root:
- Flash Google Dialer w/ framework to block callers
- use Root Call Blocker
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truecaller is another easy option to block spam calls.
bonham1988 said:
truecaller is another easy option to block spam calls.
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yes, but i dislike it since they upload your whole contacts list to their servers which is a huge privacy issue IMO
2x4 said:
yes, but i dislike it since they upload your whole contacts list to their servers which is a huge privacy issue IMO
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Yes i know but since millions of people are already using it so they already have most of our phone contacts anyway. The only thing that we can do is just get our own number removed from their database.
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bonham1988 said:
Yes i know but since millions of people are already using it so they already have most of our phone contacts anyway. The only thing that we can do is just get our own number removed from their database.
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that doesn't make it OK.
I blocked my number and those of all my friends and family on their service to mitigate that.
2x4 said:
that doesn't make it OK.
I blocked my number and those of all my friends and family on their service to mitigate that.
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Ok but to be honest doesnt bother me much. Plus you cannot remove a number from their database whose has an active true caller account so i do hope you had everyone deactivate their accounts also first.
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bonham1988 said:
truecaller is another easy option to block spam calls.
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Thanks for your reply. Gmail does not go to the Combined view of Inbox directly, dislike that. Needed a simple client which is included with the phone. Have tried BlueMail found it very complicated. I dont mind rooting if I can get a permanent solution to my problems.
About Truecaller or any other Dialler which uploads the phone book, is a huge issue for me and I dont want to do that.
About Google Keep, have tried that. Didnt like it. Besides I have hundreds of notes on my Samsung Memo with Titanium backups available, all lost.
18pcs said:
Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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You are issues rare, it also tells how diverse this world is. Most people here, specially me, just hate Samsung UI, missing frame rates and lags, chinese looking touchwiz. Good to know, some people prefer it as well. I exchanged galaxy S7 for OP3 with commitment never to buy Samsung again, i feel you have opposite issues
There are tones of memo applications, oneNote it's working fine and also you can sync with the widows os, using a branded application such Samsung's crap which you can't ported to other devices it's risky, Samsung like Apple are pushing us to use their own ****, less flexibility
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You should try HydrogenOS v0.10 which comes with its own notes app and you can block or record calls directly from the phone app. For email, I myself use Inbox from Google which works great but try few from PlayStore.
18pcs said:
Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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Why did you buy OP3 instead of Samsung?
I mean, if you prefer Samsung stile why did you change it for a pure android one?
Anyway, I'm looking for an OP3. If you would like to sell it to buy a Samsung device I would like to help you.
xanthrax said:
There are tones of memo applications, oneNote it's working fine and also you can sync with the widows os, using a branded application such Samsung's crap which you can't ported to other devices it's risky, Samsung like Apple are pushing us to use their own ****, less flexibility
Sent from my Darkside of Edge plus
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Thanks for your reply. Yes I have had Onenote since ages on my phones, never thought of using it as a memo pad. Infact it is a very good suggestion, the Quick notes are really handly and get synced to all devices too.
18pcs said:
Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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For memo i would suggest google keep or colornote, for mail you can try outlook, for call blocking you can try call blocker by nq mobile security it works good for me.
And if you root it to some other custom rom like resurrection rom i think there is an inbult feature of call blocking..
18pcs said:
Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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Your first mistake is thinking that Samsung ships Android. They ship TouchWiz and add a bunch of "value added" crap most people don't care about. Most if not all of those things can be found on Google Play.

LineageOS 14.1 - How to enable Email app for restricted user (for Exchange)?

Hi,
finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now. But the problem is now that I cannot enable the "Email"App for the restricted profiles to connect to the Exchangeserver 2010.
Since k9-Mail does not work with Exchange, it could not work as a replacement.
I read, the reason is that a google account cannot be used in restricted accounts. That is fine. But I don't want to use a google but an exchange account. Does anyone has an idea how to solve this?
risaer said:
Hi, finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now...
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I don't have this device but, your best bet is to post this question within the following Official LineageOS thread for your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3522101
If all else fails, and you don't receive any responses from the above thread, you can always try to obtain some member guidance within the following Q&A thread that's specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3526598
Good Luck!
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risaer said:
Hi,
finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now. But the problem is now that I cannot enable the "Email"App for the restricted profiles to connect to the Exchangeserver 2010.
Since k9-Mail does not work with Exchange, it could not work as a replacement.
I read, the reason is that a google account cannot be used in restricted accounts. That is fine. But I don't want to use a google but an exchange account. Does anyone has an idea how to solve this?
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So you have gapps installed. Do you really need it in this setup? Without gapps you get the default aosp mail. No Google account on the phone.
Hmm. I suppose it is not a device specific problem, but a general one.
Maybe even a general Nougat one? <-- UPDATE: Stock seems not to have the selection list **
And no. No GAPPs. It is the modified Version with MicroG. Email app is com.android.email (Version 7.1.2). I will try the unmodified version also.
If I go to the user page where I can allow, which apps can be used, more or less every app is listed but (UKW-Radio, Recorder AND E-Mail).
I also tried to move the Email from /system/app to /data/app which only caused force closes.
Maybe another reason could be that by entering exchange data you will be forced to add it as device administrator so it is not in the list?
Any help is apreciated.
I tested several mail-apps now, but either they do not support the Exchange server or they send a lot of data to other obscure servers so I have not found any alternative. I also installed the "Gmail" app (which is also usable with an exchange account) but this also does not appear in the share list and I absolutely do not understand why.
risaer said:
I tested several mail-apps now, but either they do not support the Exchange server or they send a lot of data to other obscure servers so I have not found any alternative. I also installed the "Gmail" app (which is also usable with an exchange account) but this also does not appear in the share list and I absolutely do not understand why.
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Looks like you should install something from Microsoft.
kurtn said:
Looks like you should install something from Microsoft.
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Sorry, if I do not understand if there is a hidden meaning behind this. If this is a serious tip I do not know what app? The android outlook app (which really looks neat) happily transfers AND STORES your account credentials and the content on their servers (see e.g. https://www.pcworld.com/article/288...s-new-outlook-apps-over-privacy-concerns.html , article is from 2015, but I suppose it is still valid. Some time ago I checked it and found out that there is no connection to my but only to some foreign servers). That is not only critical in my sense of privacy but also illegal in the sense of the GPDR. Funny that some people advertise certified Microsoft cloud products for the GPDR.
Nevertheless: Even if I would not use an MS server this would not solve the problem that I cannot select Email or GMail as an allowed app for an restricted user. I also tried the unmodified Lineageos but it has the same issue.
I really do not understand how all the companies work with android phones in working environments. All this fiddeling around just do protect the phones by encrypting the content in case of loss, to give the user restricted access so that they cannot install apps that must not be on the device and to care about privacy. Like on a usual work pc. Do they all use I-Phones?
possible Explaination (?)
(arrg. Always copy your text before you try to send your post) short summary of what I've written:
according to these links my understanding like this:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3175031?hl=en and https://android.stackexchange.com/q...restricted-accounts-on-phone-running-lollipop
"Normal user" and "restricted user" is not equivalent to windows "admin" and "restricted user". "restricted users" are not allowed to use accounts so you need to use "normal user" which has some rights less than the owner. All allowed apps has to be installed again (but are just links, no duplicates).
The store and some other apps can be locked with a pattern.
I will test this. If you have further ideas or a suiable management solution for more than 10 phones to hesitate to write.

Question What third-party apps/bloat comes with the S22?

Thinking about getting a S22, and would like to know what third-party (i.e. not Samsung or google) apps are pre-installed - e.g. facebook, tiktok etc. Can they be removed (as opposed to disabled via adb)?
Particularly interested in the Canadian models.
thedosbox said:
Thinking about getting a S22, and would like to know what third-party (i.e. not Samsung or google) apps are pre-installed - e.g. facebook, tiktok etc. Can they be removed (as opposed to disabled via adb)?
Particularly interested in the Canadian models.
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I bought a US Unlocked model of S22 and I do remember seeing Facebook app, but I was able to just uninstall it without any issues. I don't remember what else was there, but I deleted few of the apps that I didn't need/want.
from third-party I only see facebook and microsoft one drive

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