Has anyone in here tried the 96hz refresh rate? Does it save battery and feel quite fluid? Just wondered if it's safe to do so and if it makes a difference?
I use it. It's buttery smooth like 120hz but battery is bit better now with 96hz.
Does this require just developer options or root?
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Says app unsupported on my version of Android, no idea whether it worked as on the quick panel both the 120 and 96 stayed highlighted
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Sorry if this been answered before. Can you use the 96hz with WQHD
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Sorry if this been answered before. Can you use the 96hz with WQHD
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looks like it doesn't work with WQHD.
I'm using 96 now and feels as smooth as 120, no real noticeable difference
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Just to clarify....does this phone only work at 120hz if you set the resolution to 1080p? This means if you use the phone with its highest quality display it will only refresh at 60hz?
If that's the case well then that's just pointless isn't it?
I was so ready to buy this phone after moving to Razer for their 1 and 2 phones which both work at 120hz on maximum resolution - but if these only give 120hz at 1080p then what is the actual point??
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Just to clarify....does this phone only work at 120hz if you set the resolution to 1080p? This means if you use the phone with its highest quality display it will only refresh at 60hz?
If that's the case well then that's just pointless isn't it?
I was so ready to buy this phone after moving to Razer for their 1 and 2 phones which both work at 120hz on maximum resolution - but if these only give 120hz at 1080p then what is the actual point??
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Yes that's true but also Samsung might alter that in a further update if possible
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Yes that's true but also Samsung might alter that in a further update if possible
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I think this is a hardware limitation - a software update wont do anything
I now understand why they didnt really push it as a major selling point as there would have been a lot of backlash.
I feel for those who didnt do proper research as they would have assumed they were getting 120hz at all resolutions
i think this is a major fail on samsungs part...I would have thought others on here would have felt the same...?
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I think this is a hardware limitation - a software update wont do anything
I now understand why they didnt really push it as a major selling point as there would have been a lot of backlash.
I feel for those who didnt do proper research as they would have assumed they were getting 120hz at all resolutions
i think this is a major fail on samsungs part...I would have thought others on here would have felt the same...?
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No I think most knew what they were getting as most of us will follow the YouTube channels of the tech folk and always knew what I was getting as was made aware in a lot of videos,for me can't really tell that much between qhd and 1080, 1080 looks fine and now at 96hz to save half hour extra battery
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No I think most knew what they were getting as most of us will follow the YouTube channels of the tech folk and always knew what I was getting as was made aware in a lot of videos,for me can't really tell that much between qhd and 1080, 1080 looks fine and now at 96hz to save half hour extra battery
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fair enough - i guess I am just used to 120hz all the time and didnt really affect the battery on either of my Razer phones - TBH it lasted longer than any other Samsung phone i ever owned even with 120hz on - always got a full day out of it.
you would have expected with such a large phone as the ultra that battery would never be an issue....i guess this is another slight fail - no point in having 120hz if it has such a drastic impact on battery....
yes most of us would have watched videos and know what they are getting - however your average consumer is not us loool....
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fair enough - i guess I am just used to 120hz all the time and didnt really affect the battery on either of my Razer phones - TBH it lasted longer than any other Samsung phone i ever owned even with 120hz on - always got a full day out of it.
you would have expected with such a large phone as the ultra that battery would never be an issue....i guess this is another slight fail - no point in having 120hz if it has such a drastic impact on battery....
yes most of us would have watched videos and know what they are getting - however your average consumer is not us loool....
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Yeah seems the Exynos is turd the snapdragon seems to be top drawer in every way, Samsung giving us trash exynos wish I'd have waited and imported now!! I had the big Huawei mate x 5.000 battery and was superb but only 60hz this is my first 120hz and seems great on the snap ?? never tried a razor phone
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Yeah seems the Exynos is turd the snapdragon seems to be top drawer in every way, Samsung giving us trash exynos wish I'd have waited and imported now!! I had the big Huawei mate x 5.000 battery and was superb but only 60hz this is my first 120hz and seems great on the snap ? never tried a razor phone
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so have you reduced your resolution to 1080 to get the 120 hz benefit?
is the jump to qhd not noticable on such a small screen then?
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so have you reduced your resolution to 1080 to get the 120 hz benefit?
is the jump to qhd not noticable on such a small screen then?
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The jump is noticeable but not enough to avoid turning on 120Hz.
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The jump is noticeable but not enough to avoid turning on 120Hz.
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thanks man....
I am now in a dilemma - was looking forward to getting this phone - but spending £1,400 on a phone that doesn't run 120hz on its highest res got me thinkin why......its a lot of money...
thanks again for the feedback
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thanks man....
I am now in a dilemma - was looking forward to getting this phone - but spending £1,400 on a phone that doesn't run 120hz on its highest res got me thinkin why......its a lot of money...
thanks again for the feedback
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No problem. To be honest, I've had the phone for about a month now and while in my opinion this is the best phone Samsung has made to date, I do have some reservations about it that don't seem to be going away. The camera performance is really not very good (more mid-range to be honest) and the inability to run 120Hz at the full resolution (or even just 90-ish Hz) is somewhat frustrating for the price paid. I'm lucky in the sense that I bought the phone from Microsoft Canada and since they shuttered all of their stores I will have 30 days to return or exchange *after* they reopen their physical locations, so I probably have another 2 months to use the phone and see what updates do before I have to make the call on whether to keep or return it. I really recommend using the phone for about a week or two at least prior to deciding if you want to keep it, with particular emphasis on camera performance that is by far the biggest shortcoming.
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No problem. To be honest, I've had the phone for about a month now and while in my opinion this is the best phone Samsung has made to date, I do have some reservations about it that don't seem to be going away. The camera performance is really not very good (more mid-range to be honest) and the inability to run 120Hz at the full resolution (or even just 90-ish Hz) is somewhat frustrating for the price paid. I'm lucky in the sense that I bought the phone from Microsoft Canada and since they shuttered all of their stores I will have 30 days to return or exchange *after* they reopen their physical locations, so I probably have another 2 months to use the phone and see what updates do before I have to make the call on whether to keep or return it. I really recommend using the phone for about a week or two at least prior to deciding if you want to keep it, with particular emphasis on camera performance that is by far the biggest shortcoming.
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Yes - you are lucky you get a good trial run!!
Staggering what you say about the camera. The camera seems to be the only difference between the ultra and the rest of the range yet the price is nearly double....if its not that good then surely better to get one of the other 2 models as you get the same phone really...
Tell me - is this refresh rate situation the same with the whole S20 range (ie the normal one and the plus)? or do the others work at 120hz on max res?
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Yes - you are lucky you get a good trial run!!
Staggering what you say about the camera. The camera seems to be the only difference between the ultra and the rest of the range yet the price is nearly double....if its not that good then surely better to get one of the other 2 models as you get the same phone really...
Tell me - is this refresh rate situation the same with the whole S20 range (ie the normal one and the plus)? or do the others work at 120hz on max res?
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The entire range has the refresh limitation. Keep in mind that other versions have smaller screens and cameras have no optical zoom. Only the Ultra has optical zoom. Samsung really bungled the camera business this year which is so ironic because that was supposed to be the biggest thing about these new phones.
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Hey Everyone,
Curious to know if anyone has buyers remorse over making the switch to this device from another device?
Does anyone ever run the phone within the confines of the original OS?
What is your real world expectation 6 months from now with this device?
How long do you plan on keeping the device?
What is the most important everyday feature that is a keeper & deal breaker?
How has the form factor impacted the way you look at phones in terms of the screen size vs the size of the device?
Also as a side note. Have anyone ever worked with a fully calibrated monitor like a Eizo or a Ben-Q?
Or for industry folks, any panasonic or Sony broadcast monitors? The correlation being those monitors have the same look at least to my eyes.
Finally have you ever acquired a device that you did not initially have buyers remorse?
I have the phone myself. I am just curious to what the community at large is vibing at the moment...
I'm happy with the G3 especially the screen and camera. I jumped to the G3 from the LG Flex. Nice that the T-Mobile G3 comes with a unlocked bootloader and I'm sure development will be good with time. I'm a phone junkie and usually just keeps phones around 6 months. Jump helps with that.
Sometimes I DO regret getting this phone. It's a good phone, but it's just not the earth shattering, mega phone I was hoping for. Even rooted with no bloatware, i still experience lag, freezes, and subpar battery life. Also, maybe it's just my device, but I'm really not impressed with the screen at all. The blacks seem way too "milky", and i really can't see the difference between this and a 1080 screen, except for when I look at certain photos or videos.
The camera is nice for a 13mp shooter. That's really the main positive.
I returned it after 2 weeks. To many performance trade offs for the QHD screen. Once the more powerful phones hit later this year (Shamue and Note 4) the G3 will struggle. Although that's why the Prime is being released.
Curious what other 5.5" screen are you comparing it to?
Me too returned it after 2 weeks, and the reason was just the screen, everything else is great.
First, couldn't stand this yellowish tinted screen and the poor blacks, and second because of the lag/stuttering
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
As I never used dual window, I can't say if it lags there...
Most annoying was the stuttering to me, and this happened nearly everywhere, transitions, scrolling...
But Lg will fix it sooner or later I guess.
As I wrote, the main reason for returning it was the display...
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Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
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Some people have the G3 lag some don't. I don't notice any lag. From what I read on here the lag is simple fix by changing the launcher and or a setting or two. Removing bloat helps too.
My screen is bight and battery is good enough for me. I guess I was lucky and got a good G3.
As far as the G3 being a "wow" phone it's not but I think those days are over for phones. I was going to wait for the Note 4 but after seeing the leaked pictures I think I'm glad I didn't.
Got the D855 32GB..
All I can say is, I'm so glad i didn't put much attention on others negative opinion about the device...
We all knew it come's with QHD display before buying it, I don't get why too many about it...
As of me, I'm very happy with it... Coming from nexus 7 2013, my criteria for next device was, at least 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage with external (a 64gb internal w/o ext is also okay)... Just saying by the way. =)
There are always those people who have remorse after buying a device by the way..
I've come from an iPhone 4S!:silly:
I bought the International version with 32GB and the 3GB ram (F400S) and I've not found it laggy at all, even with the all the Korean bloatware apps on there.
The main reason I purchased it was because I was so impressed with the LG G2 that I bought for my wife a few months back, just loved the design and screen.
Hopefully when the "Ints" get their bootloader unlocked and we can nandroid backup and get some cool roms (come on PardusHD!) then it should run even smoother.
The battery life isn't as good as I expected, but then I'm usually charging using a USB port (500mAH) so it will take ages and I've hardly ever had it at 100%:laugh: but it's way better than the iPhone 4s battery life.
I'm a little disappointed in the screen, I don't find it as "bright" as the Samsung S ones, I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%.
Overall design is nice and it's very light. I'm not a fan of big screens, but then that's the way they're all heading nowadays....
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I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%
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Sole reason of fast battery discharge
I don't have this phone yet but I know the 32g has 3 gigs of ram and the 16 has 2 gigs. Might be why some suffer lag. Make sure when comparing you specify which version folks
Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
I don't have buyer's remorse exactly, but I'm not thrilled with the device in every way. I like the camera a lot better than the one on my HTC One M7, and the G3 battery life is better than my M7. That's really it. My M7 felt snappier in every way, and the screen looked better. Once the Nexus 6 comes out I will likely sell the G3 and pick one up. I just can't stand all this locked bootloader nonsense and the lack of development that occurs as a consequence.
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
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TY I am trying to recreate the stutter as we speak... Interesting stuff
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Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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I noticed a few myself. I wonder why the reviewers did not mention the stuttering.....
Put two phones side by side and the note 9 screen is crisper and more focused.
Is super AMOLED better then dynamic?
Also there is no bottom home button anymore.
I used to press the bottom to wake the phone without having a finger print saved.
Did anyone see what I mean?
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Did anyone see what I mean?
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is your note 10 on 1080p or 1440p? and also what is note 9 on?
I was thinking that also. I was watching the same movie Endgame on both at the same time. The note 9 seems slightly better. Adaptive display mode is not available on the note 10 only vivid. Both phones were the unlocked version.
If you have the note 10 and not the PLUS, they YES your note 9 has a better, higher Res screen. Note 10 is only 1080p.
yeah the 10+ is superior to the 9 side by side if you have it setto WQHD+ out of the box it's only set to WHD+, if you are on the standard 10 it's only a 1080 screen so it is just a worse screen, the 10+ is the upgrade from the 9, the standard 10 is a budget model.
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yeah the 10+ is superior to the 9 side by side if you have it setto WQHD+ out of the box it's only set to WHD+, if you are on the standard 10 it's only a 1080 screen so it is just a worse screen, the 10+ is the upgrade from the 9, the standard 10 is a budget model.
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Yes I just got mine and I think this is something a lot of people will stumble over. You ave to change the resolution to WQHD+ otherwise you're running 1080p on a native 1440p screen(Never Never Never do this).. That said this was true on the note 8 ad note 9 as well.
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Yes I just got mine and I think this is something a lot of people will stumble over. You ave to change the resolution to WQHD+ otherwise you're running 1080p on a native 1440p screen(Never Never Never do this).. That said this was true on the note 8 ad note 9 as well.
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seem to remember the Note 7 wasn't even set at it's max out of the box, so it's a long running thing.
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seem to remember the Note 7 wasn't even set at it's max out of the box, so it's a long running thing.
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It's for power conservation our of the box.
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It's for power conservation our of the box.
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makes sense in a way, but would be better if it popped up as an option with reasoning during setup, then people would actually be aware of the setting.
I used to be one of those guys that compare and nitpick about pixels, sharpness,color etc. I've since realized that my eyes will get used to whatever device I'm using after a week. At the most after 3 weeks. But to chime in. I can't tell much difference with my note 9 and note 10 .
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The average person probably doesn't know what WQHD+ is so it makes sense for it to ship at the lower resolution.
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makes sense in a way, but would be better if it popped up as an option with reasoning during setup, then people would actually be aware of the setting.
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Or people could just go exploring. If it popped up every single option that could be missed by a user the Samsung UI would be way more over bearing than it already is.
Everything is a click away and there is also a manual packed inside.
I'd roll the dice that the vast majority of the consumer market that doesn't know what an XDA is ain't stressing this. Hell how many people don't even bother changing their wallpaper.
How does WQHD+ affect battery life? I'm currently on FHD+ but interested in knowing how much less battery life I'd get.
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How does WQHD+ affect battery life? I'm currently on FHD+ but interested in knowing how much less battery life I'd get.
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I suggest you try them both and see your results as we all run different apps etc on our mobiles. Battery life can vary vastly from one user to the next. :good:
I wanted to ask if anyone has heard of any further updates on when Samsung will finally enable 120Hz on QHD. If we can use this thread to post updates? Do you think they're gonna wait until after the Note 20 phones are announced/released? It would suck to have to wait that long. FHD+ is fine but we know it would be great to have these displays blasting all the way.
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I wanted to ask if anyone has heard of any further updates on when Samsung will finally enable 120Hz on QHD. If we can use this thread to post updates? Do you think they're gonna wait until after the Note 20 phones are announced/released? It would suck to have to wait that long. FHD+ is fine but we know it would be great to have these displays blasting all the way.
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+1...update fix Green tint here today and all OK but i think May update is so Hot... [emoji28]
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It will arrive when 25w charging will be enabled on S10 series phones as promised by Samsung last March.
Its a marketing gimmick.
Forget about it! It's not going to happen. If you want 120Hz on QHD you need a S21.
Every other Smartphone that support 120Hz or even 144Hz get released with that option.
WTF Samsung. You are the Panel maker and supplier to all of those company's and they manage to bring those feature at day one.
I'm telling y'all it's because of the Exynos 990. They can't enable it on SD variants and leave the Exynos users behind that would reveal and confirm that the Exynos is crap, and would result in complaints which Samsung is trying to avoid.
its not gonna happen mate - sorry !!!
that was just rumours spread around to make people buy the phone thinking they can get it later
but as you can see they have issues with [email protected] so no way they're going to release it for QHD
It's probably not going to happen perhaps due to battery concerns. Could possibly be ready Note 20 series.
Nevertheless it's a top phone when I consider overall phone factor.
I've reviewed oneplus 8 Pro oppo find x2 and initially I did notice the difference qhd and 120hz refresh rate however several days later I've come back to my s20 ultra.
One thing I would have advised samsung to screw trying to perfect million camera lens wasting millions on testing tweaking but utilize resources to focus on getting the screen right. Hit it out of the park.
Having said that I'm back to my s20 ultra now for several reasons I'll do a comparison of all three thread maybe.
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It's probably not going to happen perhaps due to battery concerns. Could possibly be ready Note 20 series.
Nevertheless it's a top phone when I consider overall phone factor.
I've reviewed oneplus 8 Pro oppo find x2 and initially I did notice the difference qhd and 120hz refresh rate however several days later I've come back to my s20 ultra.
One thing I would have advised samsung to screw trying to perfect million camera lens wasting millions on testing tweaking but utilize resources to focus on getting the screen right. Hit it out of the park.
Having said that I'm back to my s20 ultra now for several reasons I'll do a comparison of all three thread maybe.
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Please do that comparison! And keep us posted
There is a hardware limitation of 120hz display on s20. You can check anandtech website for the same. It will never get QHD 120. Wish they make it variable and use combination of 48,60,96,120 to improve battery. I am ok with 120hz FHD but I think due to this implementation we are unable to run many games on 120( till now) that runs fine on other devices.
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There's issues with 120 on FHD? I haven't seen any on either the S20+ or this Ultra?
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There is a hardware limitation of 120hz display on s20. You can check anandtech website for the same. It will never get QHD 120. Wish they make it variable and use combination of 48,60,96,120 to improve battery. I am ok with 120hz FHD but I think due to this implementation we are unable to run many games on 120( till now) that runs fine on other devices.
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Hardware limitation? I thought the SD865 is rated to support up to 144hz?
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Hardware limitation? I thought the SD865 is rated to support up to 144hz?
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Not with the processor but the way it it all implemented
It lacks MIPI interface.
You can read more here
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15647/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra-snapdragon-exynos-battery-life-preview
OK everyone. We established it's not gonna happen. Aaaaaand? Are we just gonna accept this fact? Let it slide? Shouldn't Samsung get **** for this?
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OK everyone. We established it's not gonna happen. Aaaaaand? Are we just gonna accept this fact? Let it slide? Shouldn't Samsung get **** for this?
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I think the **** they should really receive first is the fact that the screen is green when 120hz is enabled... LOL
I've disabled 120hz since it's so noticeable, even with the latest updates. For now, I'd rather have 1440p than 120hz.
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I think the **** they should really receive first is the fact that the screen is green when 120hz is enabled... LOL
I've disabled 120hz since it's so noticeable, even with the latest updates. For now, I'd rather have 1440p than 120hz.
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Which S20? I don't see it on my Ultra even at low light
From photos I've seen it looks like some have defective panels it was so noticeable
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Which S20? I don't see it on my Ultra even at low light
From photos I've seen it looks like some have defective panels it was so noticeable
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Think they're referring to the Exynos version. I'm in the US, SD so no green issues with mine. I've spent a few minutes trying to replicate it but couldn't see any issues. @Nightwind Hawk did you mean to say you disabled 120 because it's NOT so noticeable or that it is? If it is noticeable, why disable it?
Not to suggest that I don't believe that one source about this being a true hardware limitation on these phones but I'd prefer a more authoritative corroborating source to confirm this. In any case, it sucks that we don't have QHD with 120 but at the end of the day it doesn't kill the phone for me.
OP8 Pro has QHD @120 but screw using a phone again with that much of a damn curve on its display. I can't stand the curve on OP phones. If OP made the display on that 8 Pro FLAT, whoa...
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Which S20? I don't see it on my Ultra even at low light
From photos I've seen it looks like some have defective panels it was so noticeable
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Think they're referring to the Exynos version. I'm in the US, SD so no green issues with mine. I've spent a few minutes trying to replicate it but couldn't see any issues. @Nightwind Hawk did you mean to say you disabled 120 because it's NOT so noticeable or that it is? If it is noticeable, why disable it?
Not to suggest that I don't believe that one source about this being a true hardware limitation on these phones but I'd prefer a more authoritative corroborating source to confirm this. In any case, it sucks that we don't have QHD with 120 but at the end of the day it doesn't kill the phone for me.
OP8 Pro has QHD @120 but screw using a phone again with that much of a damn curve on its display. I can't stand the curve on OP phones. If OP made the display on that 8 Pro FLAT, whoa...
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I haven't noticed any green tint issues even with 120Hz at the moment I'm running mine in 96Hz so don't really notice any must be luck of the draw.
Guys this thread is about 120Hz @ QHD and not that green tint issue! There is a seperate thread about that issue... please discuss that issue over there.
Although who cares about this thread? Samsung isn't going to read this thread and decide to release a update.
Yeah can't work plainly due to exynos processors being unable to keep up with it.
not happening people
https://www.sammobile.com/news/why-galaxy-s20-will-probably-never-get-120hz-qhd-resolution/
Its interesting the Asus ROG 2 suffered from a red tint @ 120hz... Now the S20 suffers green tint @ 120hz..
I was told that the 20x no longer works with any cellphone carriers in the US but I purchased a EVR-L29 model anyways and having them shipped over here in the states because I really like the phone for media consumption. I am just wondering if there is any current owners here in the US that can confirm or deny this fact.
I'm still using mine here in South Carolina with AT&T. No problems at all.
Still using mine with T-mobile
As long as your local carrier supports the LTE frequencies the EVR-L29 transmits and receives on then you are fine. The ban on Google and Android software on new Huawei hardware doesn't effect the functionality of phones manufactured before the ban. We have still have an EVR-L29 in our household in Canada and it still gets regular OTA updates and connected fine to local US carriers while we were in Boston and New York last week. I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.
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I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.
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The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.
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What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?
Deanro said:
What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?
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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei. I haven't seen a review of its camera set up, but the Huawei is still brilliant and for sound also has aptX HD. Huawei has been good about OTA updates for the Mate 20 x, continuing to treat it as a flagship phone. Makes life easier than side-loading Google apps on the Honor.
Steamer2499 said:
Still using mine with T-mobile
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This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?
frcraig said:
The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei.
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Btw how's the battery on your note 20 ultra compared to the 20x?
My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.
frcraig said:
My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.
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That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.
Dvalin21 said:
This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?
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Correct, no 5g. My up and down speeds r fine. T-mobile service here in SW Virginia has improved a lot over the last year including rural areas.
Deanro said:
I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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I got rid of an S20+ because I didn't like the form factor. It's just taller than much lighter phones that have the same width. Pointless to get a tiny width phone like Note 20/21/22 Ultra phone - they are all the some width just some are taller and heavier. There is no use of the extra vertical space. Only reason for S22 ultra is for 1TB, but it's sold out anyway, and you can't root it for US version, and it's $1400 which is ridiculous, and you can't get the international yet, and still it's just a massive phone but not any wider than much lighter phones, defeating the purpose of making it heavier, they just make it taller and taller, soon we will have one that looks like a yard stick, thin and way too tall. They won't learn.
Deanro said:
That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.
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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.
Hey, so I don't mean to hijack the thread, but ATT turned off their 3G network earlier this week and I can no longer make or receive calls on my EVR-L29. Just wondering if anyone had found a workaround to this issue. Are there any other Huawei phones of a similar size that will work with VoLTE? I also thought of another possible workaround by porting my ATT number to a Google voice account thereby forcing my phone to operate as a VoLTE device. I looked into it and it will cost a one time fee of twenty dollars a month to port over the number. I'm just not sure if it's going to work the way I want it to. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in once again, sorry to hijack the thread but I really don't know where else I can go to try and get some input regarding this issue.... And I really don't want to part with my beloved Mate 20X.
I have Verizon on my V30S, and I've tried a few different devices since then but stuck going back to V30S. It's still a great phone, I was just wanting a larger OLED display for reading. The Mate 20 X has it. It's the widest phone on the market.
I tried the S20+ (last Galaxy phone that has expandable storage), but I did not like it and returned it. Actually they sent me the 5G US model when I ordered the 4G international model on purpose, but since I had to return it anyway, I do not want another S20+, it's the same width as my V30, just taller and heavier, defeating the purpose.
I want text bigger on the screen which is why I want a wider phone, and there is no modern tablet that exists in that form factor with OLED, and the A7 Lite doesn't have OLED but the form factor is ok. I wish it were smaller. Debating keeping it.
But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
As for using it on a US network, I got this phone mainly as a tablet, and I have an MVNO GSM sim that I haven't tried in this phone yet. I usually use wifi anyway, but I would need to have data to be practical to have this as a daily driver.
However, if 5G becomes a permanent thing, then because 5G gives me severe headaches, I will simply never be able to use data again, I will only use WIFI at home, and the only other essential thing I use data for is Google Maps, but I can get an offline maps app that will just just fine and when I'm in a store I can connect to their WIFI if I want to google something. And if that becomes a problem, I will change my way of life and not contact anyone when away from home, I'll keep a burner phone in my car if I have to for emergency use. That said, soon I will have to move out into the country in the middle of nowhere because all the cities have already rolled out 5G anyway.
For me, the purpose of a phone is as a media device, reading, and wifi use. I don't need cellular 99% of the time. Guess what, people used to use landlines and didn't have cell phones, and the world survived. I don't mind going back to a landline if I need that as a phone service. Smartphones I will use as computers, not cellular. My laptop does not have a cellular connection and doesn't need one. My smartphone doesn't either. It's a very minor convenience.
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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.
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It is strange. The n20u has far better batt efficiency that the 20x since the n20u's software is specificaly tuned for best batt performance unlike the 20x whose software isnt geared towards such a standard. The n20u outshines the 20x in battery life. Your assessment of deriving 4x more batt life by a mere 500mah difference is very poor.
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But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?
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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?
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Ok, awesome. How do I downgrade? I've been trying to figure it out. My other phone is on 8.0, Android 9 is still an upgrade from that. This phone is 1,000,000 times more useful on an older OS than on a new OS I can't root.
I've written the benefits before, they are too numerous to list in a quick post, I could write for an hour about all the reasons. Almost all of them are essential to my use.
Can you help me get this downgraded?
Why was this phone advertised with a 50MP camera but you only get a 12MP shot. Highly disappointing.
*Update* User @Ghisy added an "n" to Complaints in the title. This letter fixed the misspelling and corrected everyone's problem with my not on purpose...problem.
Remember the its 30w charging but the truth ended up being the official charger is 30w and the phone is only 23w, my how I laughed, not
Member when changing to 60hz PRESERVED battery and not used more?
Google - "See 60hz is actually OLDER tech...and it's not as EFFICIENT as 120hz..."
Us - Ohhhh
Me - whant?
Gytole said:
Why was this phone advertised with a 50MP camera but you only get a 12MP shot. Highly disappointing.
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Every phone does this. It's pixel binning.
LLStarks said:
Every phone does this. It's pixel binning.
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You are right about pixel binning however they don't lock it down by hardware like Google meaning no one is ever going to get a 50MB image from this, as MKHD said they shouldn't have called it a 50MB camera when its locked at 12
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Remember the its 30w charging but the truth ended up being the official charger is 30w and the phone is only 23w, my how I laughed, not
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I get close to 30w wirelessly (27w-28w) charging with pixel Stand 2 for some time before it goes down to 23-21 when the battery level increases
Gytole said:
Why was this phone advertised with a 50MP camera but you only get a 12MP shot. Highly disappointing.
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We still get better shots than any phone on the market.
Zilla0617 said:
I get close to 30w wirelessly (27w-28w) charging with pixel Stand 2 for some time before it goes down to 23-21 when the battery level increases
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So if you sold me something for $100 and only got $70 for it would you be upset about the difference in loss?
Shipoftheline said:
Remember the its 30w charging but the truth ended up being the official charger is 30w and the phone is only 23w, my how I laughed, not
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This. This is what almost drove me to another phone. Yea I know Samsung and apple are also around the same terribly slow charging speed, but when you have numerous other brands charging 60 - 80w and soon a whooping 150w device coming from OnePlus, 23w is absolutely pathetic. They really couldn't have done better?
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Member when changing to 60hz PRESERVED battery and not used more?
Google - "See 60hz is actually OLDER tech...and it's not as EFFICIENT as 120hz..."
Us - Ohhhh
Me - whant?
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It's not at 120hz at all times, it's from 1hz to 120hz depending what's going on, so yes it is new hardware helping battery.
Shipoftheline said:
You are right about pixel binning however they don't lock it down by hardware like Google meaning no one is ever going to get a 50MB image from this, as MKHD said they shouldn't have called it a 50MB camera when its locked at 12
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MKHD is a shill, don't listen to him.
Besides a binned 12MP is ample and looks better than 12MP
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This. This is what almost drove me to another phone. Yea I know Samsung and apple are also around the same terribly slow charging speed, but when you have numerous other brands charging 60 - 80w and soon a whooping 150w device coming from OnePlus, 23w is absolutely pathetic. They really couldn't have done better?
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For the price point? Probably not. I mean, I got my P6P for 800. The equivalent Samsung phone at the time (with the same storage capacity since they no longer support MicroSD expansion) was 1500!!! Nearly double the price! But, I already had that Samsung device, sold it for around 800 and was then able to get the P6P without having to spend any additional money =D.
So, although this Pixel series has more bugs than any of the previous Pixel series' that I have dealt with, its still got a better software interface and has full customization via the unlockable bootloader - all things that are beneficial to nerds like me =P.
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So if you sold me something for $100 and only got $70 for it would you be upset about the difference in loss?
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I see what you're trying to say, but come on 2-3w difference is not the same as $30 difference. Its funny when people go to extreme to make a point. Fail lol
iRhyiku said:
MKHD is a shill, don't listen to him.
Besides a binned 12MP is ample and looks better than 12MP
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How would you know and he's right we should have had the option for full as advertised 50MB camera, it comes under false advertising
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How would you know and he's right we should have had the option for full as advertised 50MB camera, it comes under false advertising
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Because I know what he's like and what he has done, but that's a seperate topic.
And no it doesn't, it has a 50MP camera.
They promised us a 50MP camera, they did not promise us 50MP pictures.
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Because I know what he's like and what he has done, but that's a seperate topic.
And no it doesn't, it has a 50MP camera.
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The S22 is a 108mb camera because you have the option to use it, you don't have the option to use a 50mb in the Pixel 6, it's effectively a 12mb no matter what you say
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The S22 is a 108mb camera because you have the option to use it, you don't have the option to use a 50mb in the Pixel 6, it's effectively a 12mb no matter what you say
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Just one small data point but my kid ditched his 22 and went back to his Pixel because of the camera. Quality of the shot counts more than how many MPs.
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Because I know what he's like and what he has done, but that's a separate topic.
And no it doesn't, it has a 50MP camera.
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"Trust me, I just know"
Internet guy.
Shipoftheline said:
The S22 is a 108mb camera because you have the option to use it, you don't have the option to use a 50mb in the Pixel 6, it's effectively a 12mb no matter what you say
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The S22 is a 108MP camera because it has a 108MP sensor
The P6 is a 50MP camera because it has a 50MP sensor
More MP in a photo doesn't make it better, my 108MP shots on my old N20U looked worse