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what the different between the HTC's

hii guys ,,
im going to buy the HTC m8 next week
i'v seen many type of version of the phone
like AT&A , Verizone , Sprint , Google Edition
so anyone can tell whats the different between them if there any !!
thank you

I believe the hardware is the same on all M8 variants (apart from the dual SIM ones) so all the differences lie in the software side.
AT&T, Verizon and Sprint will have a few differences to each other due to the bloatware they decide to add in.
The Google Play Edition (GPE) is running vanilla android rather than Sense (the same as Nexus devices). As they're Google devices, they'll get updates quicker than the other M8 variants (just slower than Nexus).
There's the developer edition which runs Sense but comes with an unlocked bootloader and will get updates quicker than the other Sense M8's, but not as quick as the GPE.
Then finally there's the Windows M8. This is simply running Windows 8.1 (I think) instead of Android.

It would help to know what region you are located in.
Some of the US carriers (Verizon, AT&T) have their logo on the phone, so you might not like that. And there is some difference in the colors available (for instance Verizon has red, Sprint Harmon Kardon edition has black back and sides with gold front). Other than those minor cosmetic differences, the hardware is identical, from what I understand.
Band compatibility is different on each carrier version, but is software based and can be changed by installing the proper radio (S-off required, which will probably also require sunshine s-off, which costs $25 US).
And as mentioned, the only other difference is the stock ROM, which for US carriers will have their own carrier branding and (tons of ) bloatware. Again, easily changed with unlocked bootloader or S-off.

redpoint73 said:
It would help to know what region you are located in.
Some of the US carriers (Verizon, AT&T) have their logo on the phone, so you might not like that. And there is some difference in the colors available (for instance Verizon has red, Sprint Harmon Kardon edition has black back and sides with gold front). Other than those minor cosmetic differences, the hardware is identical, from what I understand.
Band compatibility is different on each carrier version, but is software based and can be changed by installing the proper radio (S-off required, which will probably also require sunshine s-off, which costs $25 US).
And as mentioned, the only other difference is the stock ROM, which for US carriers will have their own carrier branding and (tons of ) bloatware. Again, easily changed with unlocked bootloader or S-off.
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Software wise theres carrier bloatware on each device. But hardware wise the Verizon / Sprint ones have an added CDMA chipset and from what ive read they are different from the GSM units hardware wise.
Blowing a GSM rom into a CDMA unit will brick it, or so ive read.

IAmSixNine said:
hardware wise the Verizon / Sprint ones have an added CDMA chipset and from what ive read they are different from the GSM units hardware wise.
Blowing a GSM rom into a CDMA unit will brick it, or so ive read.
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I thought and had heard the same as well (hardware difference between CDMA and GSM M8's). But several folks here have strongly claimed otherwise, that the radio difference is still in software; and that all M8's are the same hardware-wise aside from the dual SIM M8. So I'm not really sure what to believe.
That being said, the OP should probably get the version offered by their carrier, or intended for their region. Even if it can be "converted" by software, it just makes for less steps and less hassle. Unless there is some strong reason to do otherwise, like a much lower price.

IAmSixNine said:
Software wise theres carrier bloatware on each device. But hardware wise the Verizon / Sprint ones have an added CDMA chipset and from what ive read they are different from the GSM units hardware wise.
Blowing a GSM rom into a CDMA unit will brick it, or so ive read.
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redpoint73 said:
I thought and had heard the same as well (hardware difference between CDMA and GSM M8's). But several folks here have strongly claimed otherwise, that the radio difference is still in software; and that all M8's are the same hardware-wise aside from the dual SIM M8. So I'm not really sure what to believe.
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I'm not too sure about this either. I've seen a lot of people saying they have the same hardware and seen a lot of people saying CDMA have different hardware.

KidCarter93 said:
I'm not too sure about this either. I've seen a lot of people saying they have the same hardware and seen a lot of people saying CDMA have different hardware.
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And I haven't actually seen any definitive evidence for either case.
Looking at specs, both (GSM and CDMA versions) use the same chipset (Qualcomm MSM8974AB). I would think if there was a difference due to CDMA, it would have a different chipset number. But that's just a guess.
OP should stick to the version that matches their carrier (GSM versus CDMA) to be safe.

redpoint73 said:
And I haven't actually seen any definitive evidence for either case.
Looking at specs, both (GSM and CDMA versions) use the same chipset (Qualcomm MSM8974AB). I would think if there was a difference due to CDMA, it would have a different chipset number. But that's just a guess.
OP should stick to the version that matches their carrier (GSM versus CDMA) to be safe.
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I actually thought the most "obvious" difference in hardware was the actual circuitry itself. They use similar components etc but the way it's "wired" is a bit different, but I don't recall where I got that info from

BerndM14 said:
I actually thought the most "obvious" difference in hardware was the actual circuitry itself. They use similar components etc but the way it's "wired" is a bit different, but I don't recall where I got that info from
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It would be great if you could link the source, it would settle this debate.
So you mean the copper trace/tracks between components on the board are different? I would assume that some of components and/or the layout is also different, otherwise why have different trace paths?
The following teardown shows the layouts of the Verizon PCBs, but I can't find similar into for the GSM version to compare it to:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+%28M8%29+Teardown/23615

Anandtech actually has a great write-up on the differences between the various models.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review
Specifically, the chart on the supported bands is useful.

Thanks for the help guys
I think all the versions supported here with operator, im located on Israel for now
If there is no hardware different is it possible to flash a firmware from Google edition HTC to another versions?
So I dont have to wait too long for updates
Thanks again

sparxx4 said:
Thanks for the help guys
I think all the versions supported here with operator, im located on Israel for now
If there is no hardware different is it possible to flash a firmware from Google edition HTC to another versions?
So I dont have to wait too long for updates
Thanks again
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The main difference in GSM version is the frequency/band it uses for 3G/LTE.
Everything about the GSM version is the same except for each have different frequencies enabled.
So find out in Israel what cellular company you will be using and what frequencies their 3G and what LTE band if any. Then you'll be able to pick which m8 is right for you.

jshamlet said:
Anandtech actually has a great write-up on the differences between the various models.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review
Specifically, the chart on the supported bands is useful.
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what ever model its a amazing phone .

It is amazing indeed
It seem im getting the Gunmetal version
Any ideas about it!?
When an update roll out for HTC Google edtion is it possible to flash it on my phone after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks

sparxx4 said:
It seem im getting the Gunmetal version
Any ideas about it!?
When an update roll out for HTC Google edtion is it possible to flash it on my phone after unlocking bootloader?
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Gunmetal finish is available for a great many versions/regions, so telling us that alone doesn't say much.
But GPE full conversion is possible with unlocked bootloader and I think S-off also.

One version for US and Rest-of-World this year？

We know 1st gen Pixel has two version: NA and RoW(Rest of world) , but i found UK and AU store website which should be the "RoW version" has exactly the same radio band support as as US store version .
So this year Pixel 2 seems only have one version for all ? or is it just wrong info on the spec page? I'm confused.

It's the same version sold worldwide.

its good if it is, as then everyone gets all the bands so you can travel anywhere with the phone. seems only difference will be project-fi in the US using an esim.

It's cheaper for the to make only one version for everyone
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Yes, of course it's cheaper to make only one version, but so far no company managed to integrate support for 21 LTE bands and all possible carrier aggregation combinations used in US/EU/Asia.
Not even Apple (who like to save cost more than any other company I have dealt with).
It all results in extra antennas and radio front-end components that need extra space and cost extra money.
Congratulations to Google/Qualcomm/LG/HTC if they actually managed it this time

Last year I bought the US version which didn't work well with my China Telecom... I'm glad this year they only make one model to fit all...

Yep, one stop international device shopping is the best way to go...

okgnew said:
Yes, of course it's cheaper to make only one version, but so far no company managed to integrate support for 21 LTE bands and all possible carrier aggregation combinations used in US/EU/Asia.
Not even Apple (who like to save cost more than any other company I have dealt with).
It all results in extra antennas and radio front-end components that need extra space and cost extra money.
Congratulations to Google/Qualcomm/LG/HTC if they actually managed it this time
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The Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 has 43 International LTE bands including all the US ones
The OnePlus 5 does too

FMXP said:
The Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 has 43 International LTE bands including all the US ones
The OnePlus 5 does too
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Does it also support all possible carrier aggregation band pairings?

kEvinErd said:
Does it also support all possible carrier aggregation band pairings?
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okgnew said:
Yes, of course it's cheaper to make only one version, but so far no company managed to integrate support for 21 LTE bands and all possible carrier aggregation combinations used in US/EU/Asia.
Not even Apple (who like to save cost more than any other company I have dealt with).
It all results in extra antennas and radio front-end components that need extra space and cost extra money.
Congratulations to Google/Qualcomm/LG/HTC if they actually managed it this time
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The Pixel 2 XL supports 4G pretty much anywhere in the world.
Carrier-aggregation might be another story though, the USA and EU models might differ in what bands they can combine.
Google hasn't mentioned what bands are supported for C-A so we don't know yet. If anyone was thinking about getting the phone in the USA I'd hold of for just a bit until it's been clarified.

I live in Japan and was waiting for Pixel 2 for ages, was super disappointed that they are not only failing to sell this here, but didn't include the appropriate bands for Japan. Bands 1/3 will work and you'll just have **** coverage if you're in a basement or out in the country, which is good enough I guess for a tourist. I ended up buying last year's Pixel after waiting a year for the 2.
I just came across this today after digging for info on the Pixel v1 I just got. Not sure if I'll be more or less annoyed if I find out the Pixel 2 really does secretly support other bands.
Edit: Bands 19 & 21 are what I need to full coverage.

discoltk said:
I live in Japan and was waiting for Pixel 2 for ages, was super disappointed that they are not only failing to sell this here, but didn't include the appropriate bands for Japan. Bands 1/3 will work and you'll just have **** coverage if you're in a basement or out in the country, which is good enough I guess for a tourist. I ended up buying last year's Pixel after waiting a year for the 2.
I just came across this today after digging for info on the Pixel v1 I just got. Not sure if I'll be more or less annoyed if I find out the Pixel 2 really does secretly support other bands.
Edit: Bands 19 & 21 are what I need to full coverage.
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Usually I use this website to check for phone's coverage: http://willmyphonework.net/

jerryhou85 said:
Usually I use this website to check for phone's coverage: http://willmyphonework.net/
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Thanks - but I know what bands I need and I know what the Google reports the phone as having.
The issue is there's a dependency between what GCF reports and what Google claims.

discoltk said:
Thanks - but I know what bands I need and I know what the Google reports the phone as having.
The issue is there's a dependency between what GCF reports and what Google claims.
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You mean possibly Google has disabled some bands?

jerryhou85 said:
You mean possibly Google has disabled some bands?
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Yes that seems to be a possibility. So, they may be able to be enabled with a different modem firmware if so, though I don't want to get back into the constantly fighting to keep my phone updated with unsupported software.

Sadly,they drop the LTE band39 support this year, Living in China , and this is one of the bands China Mobile use in my city. B3/B38/B40/B41 are the other bands China Mobile using. So it should be some coverage problem especially in tunnel or subway.

Enable 5G on LTE S20 Ultra

I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.

sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc

enOrebmuN said:
I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
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buy a 5g model

elliwigy said:
buy a 5g model
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There isn't a 5G model in my country. Don't you think I would've done it if i could?

mikey_sk said:
sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
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Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.

enOrebmuN said:
Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.

CappyT said:
The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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I've actually seen a teardown of the Ultra i'm using, and it has the exact same 5G modem as the advertised Exynos 5G G988B Ultra.
Thanks for the input.

CappyT said:
The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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Forgot to add the source. https://www.techinsights.com/blog/samsung-galaxy-s20-teardown-analysis
Edit: Do you think that perhaps changing the CSC might do the trick?

Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?

mikey_sk said:
Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
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As far as i know, Indonesia and some parts of SEA, and parts of Europe (Central and Eastern). Could be more widespread but in essence it's an exactly the same phone, same model number, identical internals as the 5G version, just with the 5G modem disabled for some reason. It doesn't cost a penny less.

try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands

farookh said:
try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
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It doesn't let me
https://imgur.com/a/izcQ5sS

it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.

vash_h said:
it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
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That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.

enOrebmuN said:
That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
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A CSC based switch is definitely possible, if you switch to a CSC from a country where the 5G model is officially sold, you might be able to use it, but no way of knowing for sure without visiting that country, switching the CSC and inserting a 5G-ready SIM card.

Has anybody tried and tested this?

What if you install a S20 5G firmware instead of the default one?

Please tell anyone how to enable 5g in S20 ultra Indian version.

Galaxy S20+ SM G986N

Hello to all,
i recently bought the Galaxy S20+ G986N, mine is a korean version!
Now I accidentally read that the 3G/4G and 5G networks are limited! --> I did not know before!
Is it possible to unlock the networks?
Thanks in advance and regards
Daniel
PS:
Is it possible to unlock the Dual Sim version here? Since this is a SingleSim!

Allegedly yes if you bought the phone sans mobile network, pop you sim inside and talk to someone for 10 minutes, on your local network that is, it should reset to a "domestic" flavor of networks... it can be checked via the secret menu *#60# or something like that (google is your friend if not), dough snapdragon has no issue whatsoever with working on any network, the network locked ones and usa specific ones are a different thing, - even those can be made to work.
I was not aware any of the s10 and s20 series come with just a single sim as one slot can be used for sdcard and a sim... Give it a shot, you already bought the phone anyways...

I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?

danikristijan said:
I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?
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In fact 5G limited not only by software, but by hardware too, every band protocol of 5G requires appropriate specific antenna to be installed in your device. Moreover, you can't flash anything except the firmware designed for N version (no U/U1 whatsoever options) because of boot-loader.

Thanks for your reply.
For mmwave you need hardware, but I guess for Sub6 it's only limited by sw?!?

5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps

nguyenlucky said:
5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps
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Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?

danikristijan said:
Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?
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It's possible (4G bands) on some old phones (pre-835 era), but not so much these days though

Thanks for your reply. Not so much means, currently no possibility?

Question AT&T and International/EU 9 Pro

So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.

EU has additional options that neither the TMO or US int models have. At&t is behind on 5g deployments anyway so you shouldn't miss out on much, Verizon and TMO would've been better for that. As far as general reqs go, I don't see why not.

mawoods75 said:
So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.
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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.

toolhas4degrees said:
As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.

mawoods75 said:
I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.
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I have dual sims, straight talk att sim and t mobile sim. Att sim works fine no drop but no 5g, simple mobile -TMobile 5g,4g, I have the Chinese varient with eu firmware

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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

phr0zen said:
You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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And the strange part is they have the 9 and 9 Pro listed on their list of devices that will still work on their network (VoLTE) after they shutdown their 3G service next year. Gives me hope they will certify at some point.

I run this phone on AT&T, and while I don't get 5G speeds, I get very fast LTE+ speeds of around 200mbps.

Thanks all for the input. After some more thought, I believe I have decided on the pine green US version. It's going to be in a case anyway, and I've had very few cases that aren't black. So, if it will be black anyway due to the case, I might as well get the US version. Plus, I think the black case and green camera bump will look sharp.

Reviving an old thread, rather starting anew:
I want to get the 9 pro for T-mobile use in US. I need dual sims and want custom roms...
I saw that "toolhas4degrees" said they had a Chinese model with EU firmware. I don't know if he changed the firmware himself or what... A bit out of my capabilities.
Simply put: What would I need to do (if anything) to get the EU (LE2123) OnePlus 9 Pro to work with T-mobile?
Thanks!