Interest of the community vs single poster - About xda-developers.com

Hello
I have a suggestion : I think it will be better to choose the interest of the community vs single poster interest.
For example in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3...ent/rom-lineageos-15-1-sgp621-t3871199/page21 the community can't use Z3TC anymore because a single poster doesn't want to share links.
The main goal of XDA must be to help people to use unofficial firmware not censoring posts to make it impossible.

The only redaction that occurred on that page was because a user posted a link to another users project without permission. If a dev doesn't allow others to share their work without permission, it's not censoring, it's following the wishes of developers.

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"Dev" UserGroup

Why not just create a "Developer" forum usergroup for all the Android/Winmo developers who create ROMs/Mods/Themes and use that rank to filter out who is allowed to create new threads in the respective "Dev" forums of each phone? It's maddening to see so many [Q]'s among all the ROM titles and would REALLY clean things up, not to mention push all the other Q/A and help traffic into the forum sections they actually belong in, resulting in greater topic exposure, and by extension, potentially expedited help in dealing with problems.
Have a simple process of a message appearing when a non-dev clicks on the new thread button in the Dev section, and have it say "Sorry, you are not a recognized developer. Android/WinMo developers are the only ones allowed to post here, all questions and other discussion belong in the Q/A forum of this phone (Link here). To apply, simply PM (some moderator), tell that moderator you are a Dev, and you will be able to post.
You're not going to have to ask for proof from Devs who want to post, because since the majority of help threads created in the Dev sections are made by people who simply don't know better, are new, or don't understand the difference between forum sections. There won't really be censorship, because no user who needs help with xyz gps issue is going to go through the trouble of trying to fill out a Dev rank request forum when they suddenly realize they are posting in the wrong forum, and will move to the correct one.
It won't even be difficult to implement, just look through the dev forums and start granting people who are already android/WinMo developers the Developer usergroup. It's not even like they need extra permissions, the only extra permission they'd have is being able to post in their Development and Hacking forum.
Love XDA, Cheers!
+1 to this idea.
It won't be hard to implement, but it will be a constantly time consuming job for the Administrators to monitor the boards to appoint certain users to such a 'Rank'.
Along with this idea... why not a 'Community Assistance' rank for those who don't necessarily develop, but rather help users with issues they may have: answering questions, providing tutorials for help, sharing resources, etc..

[Project] Dev Blogs

Dev Blogs
It's my new webpage project. So far, a link to developer project blog.
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So generally speaking about the project,
it will be a page on which the developers
will be able to create your pages, post news, upload files, etc.
In general, the entire page will be dedicated
to developers of all sorts, not only Android
Want to know more? Write below.
If you would like to join the team welcome Mod Edit: Link Removed
Join to team it's free and earnings later!
PS - In general, we need 200$ to buy server and domain for 1 year.
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My team wasn't enough?
@up
heh
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Sorry, not allowed per Rule 11.
Thread closed,
mikef
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[Q] Posting a port

If I post a port on this primoc forum do i have to have permission from the original rom dev? even if the rom may be discontinued and the dev no longer active? Could I still post it and give them credit instead?
Zakman72 said:
If I post a port on this primoc forum do i have to have permission from the original rom dev? even if the rom may be discontinued and the dev no longer active? Could I still post it and give them credit instead?
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No you HAVE to ask. Unless they have stated otherwise, even if they have stated otherwise you MUST give credit.
In regards to shubham's cm9 kang bang rom. I would send a permissions request and give him fair time to reply. And then if no reply confer with the community about adding it with proper credits to shub for the original rom. I say this due to him no longer being online with the htc one v. If not online at all. I never could get in touch with shub after trying to contact via several methods. I do not think shub would mind as long as you gave him proper credit for his original work. To me its about continuing the community. A number of the older roms would still be very useful if bug problems were finally eliminated. Roms like Kang Bang have a lot of potential..they just need some bugs eliminated. In regard to what is best for the community,I say keeping the community active and viable to draw new development should come before certain permissions if the developer is no longer active in the community,not online at all any where and as long as they are credited for their work. Most developers would not mind seeing their work continue and fixed if possible as long as they are properly credited. Zakman I suggest private messaging the senior members of the htc development community like Simon,Llior and the current major rom developers and see how they feel about it. You might find they as a whole would be ok with it in the absence of shub as long as you did credit shub.
Well said, sir
Sent from my phone running a rom
Curtis1973 said:
In regards to shubham's cm9 kang bang rom. I would send a permissions request and give him fair time to reply. And then if no reply confer with the community about adding it with proper credits to shub for the original rom. I say this due to him no longer being online with the htc one v. If not online at all. I never could get in touch with shub after trying to contact via several methods. I do not think shub would mind as long as you gave him proper credit for his original work. To me its about continuing the community. A number of the older roms would still be very useful if bug problems were finally eliminated. Roms like Kang Bang have a lot of potential..they just need some bugs eliminated. In regard to what is best for the community,I say keeping the community active and viable to draw new development should come before certain permissions if the developer is no longer active in the community,not online at all any where and as long as they are credited for their work. Most developers would not mind seeing their work continue and fixed if possible as long as they are properly credited. Zakman I suggest private messaging the senior members of the htc development community like Simon,Llior and the current major rom developers and see how they feel about it. You might find they as a whole would be ok with it in the absence of shub as long as you did credit shub.
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Big Thank you sir. Will do.

[INDEX]Betaapps - beta testing community (google+)

Dear XDA members and developers, in case all of your apps need to be tested, and tested correctly, I would like to introduce my google+ beta community here:
Betaapps
As many of you know, Google implemented beta testing options to the Google Play Market and this option based on google+ communities, where you can invite your testers.
These way have a huge advantage:
1) Users can install your beta application directly from Play Market (they can trust your app more, and they don't need to move *.apk files on the device).
2) You will have a simple bugtracker with crash reports, it should increase quality of received feedbacks.
My community should help developers to share their beta programs and invite testers to their communities. If you have a post on XDA forums with your application beta promo, you also can just share the link to our community to the "Request feedback" section with no worry that it will be removed (even if you don't have any community). There are not so much places where you can find a list of beta testing programs, like in our "apps" section, and I also would like to invite all XDA members who want to be notified about new android apps in beta to join our Betaapps community as a tester.
For now, Betaapps community is growing and it will be very helpful if you will share this community with your google+ circles and other social networks. This forum section could be more effective for developers if they will know how to get more testers.
Actually I have a big plans in beta testing field and my community and I hope that XDA members will enjoy my activities and our work will be help testers and developers meet each other. Welcome for your comments.
* for moderators: It would be great to pin this post in this forum section. I also
can place a link to this post in our community description to help people visit XDA. Thanks!
Hey if tester positions are still opened please consider me.. As I'm a real QA Analyst so can easily find and report the bugs n I'll prefer Quality all the way...
Thanks
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Welcome - Betaapps community is a part of crowd testing. It's mean that everyone can become a tester and of course you can be invited privately for more interesting projects, if your testing skills are good.
There are a lot of free testing programs there and you can join any of them, by the way I will share some information about other beta platforms where you can find paid projects in "crowd" section. Stay tuned and you will become a part of a big crowd testing project with paid opportunities and other awesome features.
You can also introduce yourselves there, and share that community with your friends. We are looking for active QA professionals there :highfive:
Fill free to ask anything you want to know about Betaapps!
sunil.avvas said:
Hey if tester positions are still opened please consider me.. As I'm a real QA Analyst so can easily find and report the bugs n I'll prefer Quality all the way...
Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9070 using XDA Free mobile app
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Vindceo said:
Welcome - Betaapps community is a part of crowd testing. It's mean that everyone can become a tester and of course you can be invited privately for more interesting projects, if your testing skills are good.
There are a lot of free testing programs there and you can join any of them, by the way I will share some information about other beta platforms where you can find paid projects in "crowd" section. Stay tuned and you will become a part of a big crowd testing project with paid opportunities and other awesome features.
You can also introduce yourselves there, and share that community with your friends. We are looking for active QA professionals there :highfive:
Fill free to ask anything you want to know about Betaapps!
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I'm In and thanks for the info I've juts Joined & followed the Beta apps from G+

Recognized Developer Code of Conduct & Minimum Requirements.

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