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I've had an MI5 for a couple years and the screen is cracked and close to dying. I was thinking of buying an MI5S as a replacement but feel like I could get a better phone as it's TOO similar to my trusty MI5 even.
My specific, additional criteria includes it being similarly sized (height/thickness) to the MI5/MI5S (to fit my mobile phone holder). After searching GSMArena, it returned around 8 phones. Most of them were cheap phones that were also released in 2016. The one exception was the original Google Pixel. The spec seems similar to the MI5/MI5S but the fingerprint scanner on the back is a deal breaker. So with that, I'd be prepared to open up the choice of phones a bit more. It must be able to run LineageOS and still be getting updates (future releases are never guaranteed, I understand). Any recommended phones (or just get the MI5S)?
I would go for the newer Mi6, because it has an optical image stabilizer like the Mi5, which the Mi5s sadly lacks.
The Mi6 also has a way faster CPU than the Mi5s. Don't forget, the Mi5s is now nearly 2 years old.
Indeed, price difference is minimal, so go with better options like the Mi6. Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 are also friendly priced recently.
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didn't consider the Mi6 and a few other Xiaomi phones becasuse I was using an old GSMarena saved search where I specified band 28 had to be in the phone, but I don't actually need that band now.
Aaargh, the Mi6 (and upcoming 6X), Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 all don’t have headphone jacks (the headphone adapters aren’t going to cut it)! Curse you Apple. We knew it was coming, I guess. They’re all a similar size to my old phone at least and fit the phone holder as well.
Mi Mix 2 looks like it will get updated for some time but that's starting to get heavy (185 g/6.53 oz) too:
https://www.lineageosrom.com/2018/01/xiaomi-devises-getting-android-p.html
The Nokia 8 actually looks very good value with same CPU as the Mi Mix 2 (and similar weight) but with the headphone jack, but the Lineage devs are waiting on the bootloader to be unlockable for that.
I think I’ll have to wait. At least I have a better idea of what I’m looking for. Would be nice if the stats.lineageos.org site showed the newer phones’ popularity/trend in another table.
Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Thanks for those. Mi Note 2 and orignial Mi Mix are a bit old (hey, one of the earlier posts has made me only look at 2017 or later phones). The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro phone is a bit heavy at around 180gm (my 64gb Mi5 is 129gb).
The LeTv/LeEco phnoe have two, more-recent releases that look reasonable but from those the LeEco Le Pro3 Elite has the same chipset as my Mi5 and the LeEco Le Pro 3 AI Edition has a Mediatek chipset (taking your advice on ruling out phones with those).
The Zubia Z17 lite looks a decent option (168gms is getting up there is weight) but just saw its finger print scanner is rear-mounted too.
Will keep looking!
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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No separate 3.5mm/headphone jack. Looks nice though. I refuse to get wireless earphones or use any dongle. I bought some nice wired earphones not too long ago.
Sounds like the Mi7 might be out sometime this year too (but, again, probably won't have a 3.5mm/headphone jack).
Xiaomi MI series vs. Xiaomi REDMI series = which line is better?
Everybody knows that Mi series goal is to be better than Redmi at least in specs and performance.
But how about performance to price ratio, how about all other things that You dont worry and dont expect in REDMI casue it's cheap but You do expect it in the MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in REDMI series if there is any? WHY? Cause we all know not to expect wonders for a low budget priced phones.
I've talked to many people who had/have REDMI and MI series Xiaomi phones (clients, selllers, internet folks, friends) and they only agree on ONE thing -the price is great wheter it is REMI or MI phone.
A strange thing happens.... REDMI owners are always satisfied. The only thing that bothers not all of them is the camera quality.
But in low and middle price segment REDMI beats EVERY other BRAND.
Xiaomi has also great prices in the high end flagship models but here MANY PEOPLE are dissapointed.
For example camera quality, screen quiality, body, bezel, bugs, no NFC, no european B20 LTE band.
The MI users also tell me that non of the above bothers them but something totaly different. EACH person = an original problem with MI device.
Can You please tell me what are Your problems/dislikes with MI and REDMI devices cause I'm about to buy one from each segment?
What should I worry about (Android updates maybe?) buying a REDMI and a MI phone IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE?
People who complain about camera quality on the MI Mix 2 are comparing it to flagships that cost significantly more--and that was before the price drop on the MI Mix 2. At this point flagship phones from Samsung, Apple and Huawei cost more than twice what a MI Mix 2 costs. If you are willing to spend $800-$1000 on a smart phone then you will certainly get a better camera. I don't expect a fantastic camera at this price point.
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People who complain about camera quality on the MI Mix 2 are comparing it to flagships that cost significantly more--and that was before the price drop on the MI Mix 2. At this point flagship phones from Samsung, Apple and Huawei cost more than twice what a MI Mix 2 costs. If you are willing to spend $800-$1000 on a smart phone then you will certainly get a better camera. I don't expect a fantastic camera at this price point.
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I'm sure the releasing Mi Mix 2S had something to do with that price. And BTW It should have equal cam quality like S9+ (DXoMark)
androidbadboy said:
Xiaomi MI series vs. Xiaomi REDMI series = which line is better?
Everybody knows that Mi series goal is to be better than Redmi at least in specs and performance.
But how about performance to price ratio, how about all other things that You dont worry and dont expect in REDMI casue it's cheap but You do expect it in the MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in REDMI series if there is any? WHY? Cause we all know not to expect wonders for a low budget priced phones.
I've talked to many people who had/have REDMI and MI series Xiaomi phones (clients, selllers, internet folks, friends) and they only agree on ONE thing -the price is great wheter it is REMI or MI phone.
A strange thing happens.... REDMI owners are always satisfied. The only thing that bothers not all of them is the camera quality.
But in low and middle price segment REDMI beats EVERY other BRAND.
Xiaomi has also great prices in the high end flagship models but here MANY PEOPLE are dissapointed.
For example camera quality, screen quiality, body, bezel, bugs, no NFC, no european B20 LTE band.
The MI users also tell me that non of the above bothers them but something totaly different. EACH person = an original problem with MI device.
Can You please tell me what are Your problems/dislikes with MI and REDMI devices cause I'm about to buy one from each segment?
What should I worry about (Android updates maybe?) buying a REDMI and a MI phone IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE?
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Alô i have a mi mix 2 and no problems at all.
I sink the most parte off the peoples dont have problems whith Xiaomi phones but they like to put problems on their phones.
Never satisfait whit their phones
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paulojorjealmeida said:
Alô i have a mi mix 2 and no problems at all.
I sink the most parte off the peoples dont have problems whith Xiaomi phones but they like to put problems on their phones.
Never satisfait whit their phones
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That psychological problem affects 90% phone users,
Redmi product line is ODM. The flagship models of MI/MIX are OEM.
aarwwefdds said:
Redmi product line is ODM. The flagship models of MI/MIX are OEM.
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If Mi/Mix are truly OEM, then who is the Client that provided Xiaomi the product design and specifications?
Hmm
DoR3M3 said:
If Mi/Mix are truly OEM, then who is the Client that provided Xiaomi the product design and specifications?
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In other word. MI/Mix are designed by xiaomi itself. Redmi is provided by a company called longcheer, even though xiaomi is holding much of it's share.
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In other word. MI/Mix are designed by xiaomi itself. Redmi is provided by a company called longcheer, even though xiaomi is holding much of it's share.
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So in the long run (to receive updates for example as long as possible) it is better to buy a Mi rather than Redmi phone?
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
dunklesgemut said:
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
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Can u check guides section we need some testers for POSP
You could always try a gsi
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
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Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
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U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
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U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
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So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
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So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
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No problem then wait for someone to test
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No problem then wait for someone to test
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro-custom-rom-kernel-developers/
this happened over 2 months ago and yet there is nothing. "need for testing" hmm okay.
Is it because of the Mediatek chip and them not sharing code?
It seems like there will not be any stable enough custom roms for this phone even tho it was realeased 4 months ago, there is still nothing.
Makes me a bit sad. So great specifications but no custom roms. Damn Mediatek! [if its their fault]
@zaiross At the moment, the main problem is a bug that results in hard brick which can only be recovered by a service centre that has an account authorized to flash in EDL mode (the lowest level of service/flash protocol, even lower than Fastboot). So no development because if a ROM Dev causes the hard brick, they have to pay a fee to service centre to get reflash using EDL.
Also does not help that MediaTek seem not interested in the smaller development community. MediaTek have said they are not interested in a similar partnership with the Linux Code Aurora community that Qualcomm works with. It's a pity they're not interested as I believe it would help increase popularity of MTK chips and increase sales over time.
a programmer could modify sp flash tool so it would bypass asking for authorized account. that would be worth to achieve smth for long time than paying services for bricks
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
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This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
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Since when does Xiaomi claim to support custom roms from the community with any of their phones??
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T seems nice enough.. It has Qualcomm chip in it. Should people with Pro switch to that for example? Or perhaps Xiaomi Redmi K30, Realme X2 or Oppo K5 ....
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro seems great because of specs but MIUI really sucks ass, and like ariber14, i too bought this phone in belief of getting a custom rom to it sooner or later. :/
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thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
I am still using Redmi Note 2, my next phone will be Snapdragon only, no more bullsh* of development like customs, gcam, bootloader and xiaomi.eu etc. etc.
in 2015 Helio X10 was promising like G90T was at the launch date, as always like the whole story of every mediatek devices, RN2 was enough for me to learn lesson, but it's good for daily use, even without customs neither gcam which I need, I could waited for months and paid more money for redmi note 3 pro, it's still being developed.
my gf's Redmi 5 is 2 years old cheapest, is being updated and has gcam night sight working better than rn8pro
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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I just got my OnePlus 5T working so I'll be using that as my daily and my Moto X4 for music. I'll probably keep this until next July and sell it so i can pool in some cash from my bonus and get whatever the flagship OnePlus out at that point. But if i was to make a purchase now, I'll probably avoid XIAOMI altogether. I've been looking into the ROG phone 2 specially since it's not expensive comparing to some other flagships. I'll probably go for that.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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It's not, especially when you can just flash a GSI to it.
I have gotten Havoc to work via GSI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...uide-how-to-unlock-root-flash-gsi-to-t4037403
https://www.bgr.in/news/xiaomi-mi-a...ls-quits-on-making-android-one-phones-906947/
Real shame if this is true.... Guess I will be looking at the new Nexus 4a, or a Moto for my next phone as pure android is the best.
Mind you I think Xiaomi gave up on their Android One phones some time ago, my Mi A2 Lite has become extremely sluggish in the last six months.
That news is false see the screenshot below:
I have a Poco F3 but this is a Xiaomi general post. I have had many Xiaomi phones (mainly Poco and Redmi notes) over the years.
I have just recently discovered about eSim which would be very useful when I visit my property abroad - my phone does not support this technology, but saying that, no Xiaomi phone does. why is this? A few other manufacturers support it: Apple, Samsung and google to name a few. I have tried to raise this in mi forum, but answers are promptly deleted.
Another thing that I find a bit annoying id that apple phones support 20 eSim profiles but android only support 1. why is this also?
I don't really want to be forced to buy a phone from a manufacturer I don't want to buy from.
Does anyone know answers? I would be grateful.
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I have a Poco F3 but this is a Xiaomi general post. I have had many Xiaomi phones (mainly Poco and Redmi notes) over the years.
I have just recently discovered about eSim which would be very useful when I visit my property abroad - my phone does not support this technology, but saying that, no Xiaomi phone does. why is this? A few other manufacturers support it: Apple, Samsung and google to name a few. I have tried to raise this in mi forum, but answers are promptly deleted.
Another thing that I find a bit annoying id that apple phones support 20 eSim profiles but android only support 1. why is this also?
I don't really want to be forced to buy a phone from a manufacturer I don't want to buy from.
Does anyone know answers? I would be grateful.
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The Xiaomi 12t pro has it.
NOSS8 said:
The Xiaomi 12t pro has it.
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Thanks for your reply. I am in UK and cannot find it.
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Thanks for your reply. I am in UK and cannot find it.
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https://www.kibotek.com/en/kiboSTOR...&utm_content=xiaomi-12t-pro-global-12gb-256gb
rincal said:
I have a Poco F3 but this is a Xiaomi general post. I have had many Xiaomi phones (mainly Poco and Redmi notes) over the years.
I have just recently discovered about eSim which would be very useful when I visit my property abroad - my phone does not support this technology, but saying that, no Xiaomi phone does. why is this? A few other manufacturers support it: Apple, Samsung and google to name a few. I have tried to raise this in mi forum, but answers are promptly deleted.
Another thing that I find a bit annoying id that apple phones support 20 eSim profiles but android only support 1. why is this also?
I don't really want to be forced to buy a phone from a manufacturer I don't want to buy from.
Does anyone know answers? I would be grateful.
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other manufacturers just recently started adopting esim feature. mainly on flagship devices.
I think we can expect more xiaomi devices to support in the next year.
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other manufacturers just recently started adopting esim feature. mainly on flagship devices.
I think we can expect more xiaomi devices to support in the next year.
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Apple for 4 years.
Google for 3 years.
Motorola for 2 years.
huawei for 2 years.
Samsung for 2 years.
Oppo for 10 months.
Sony for 4 months.
Certainly not on all models but Xiaomi is late.
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Thanks for your reply. I am in UK and cannot find it.
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Maybe you need the Sim but the 12t pro is not the successor of the 12 pro.
A larger capacity battery and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8+ Gen1 with a 200MP camera without Optical Zoom but that's where it ends.
Aluminum alloy vs Plastic
Amoled •Samsung E5 vs Amoled
WQHD+ 1440 x 3200px vs FHD+ 1220 x 2712px
521 Pixels per inch vs 446 Pixels per inch
Corning Gorilla Glass 7 Victus vs. Corning Gorilla Glass 5
front camera 32 MP vs 20 MP
and many other non-existent functions compared to the 12 pro.
For £68 difference but ok without Esim.
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Certainly not on all models but Xiaomi is late.
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what do you mean by late. do you need esim by tomorrow?
I would prefer to have esim instead of phyisical sim right now, but I can wait.
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what do you mean by late. do you need esim by tomorrow?
I would prefer to have esim instead of phyisical sim right now, but I can wait.
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For a manufacturer that is in the top 3 of world sales, no Esim, whereas Apple and Google, for example, have already had it for several years.
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For a manufacturer that is in the top 3 of world sales, no Esim, whereas Apple and Google, for example, have already had it for several years.
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I completely agree with you on this. But it is not much neccessary to support esim at the moment.
Also many network providers just recently started to support esim on a larger scale.
Where I am from, just month ago my network provider started supporting esim.
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I completely agree with you on this. But it is not much neccessary to support esim at the moment.
Also many network providers just recently started to support esim on a larger scale.
Where I am from, just month ago my network provider started supporting esim.
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Same and not impatient.
Takes time ^^