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The phone has UFS 3.0 storage support, but does it support UFS cards?
I've tried 256gb card and my N10+ doesn't recognize it.
I believe the best card you can put in is microSDXC, the UFS is likely purely the internal memory as UFS isn't compatible with the MicroSD formats so making the slot take UFS would of likely made getting expansion cards harder and potentially more expensive.
so the Note 10+ won't recognise the card as the pin locations on the cards are totally different, so the card is likely just not making any contact inside the phone so likely acting as if you just put a blank in.
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Hello.
The phone has UFS 3.0 storage support, but does it support UFS cards?
I've tried 256gb card and my N10+ doesn't recognize it.
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When I first heard about that standard I was fascinated. Samsung invented that storage standard and they are MUCH faster than the SD card standard. It could be that what it would cost to make that a standard used by other device manufacturers unfortunately I believe is a hurdle too large for Samsung to overcome. I believe that is the only reason why Samsung does not bother. However, if they offered phones that could handle the UFS cards, and also offered the UFS cards - (and this is key) - and then licensed the technology to other manufacturers - I believe they would sell so many that it would become a standard that might take a while but would most likely eclipse the old SD standard. Maybe there is some kind of design flaw that Samsung is not explaining to people that makes it more expensive to be able to utilize the UFS standard? Thoughts?
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Hello.
The phone has UFS 3.0 storage support, but does it support UFS cards?
I've tried 256gb card and my N10+ doesn't recognize it.
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Just adding to the conversation, got me curious...
Checked Samsung's site, seems the UFS Cards are only compatible with certain models of Samsung's laptop PCs.
For those who are interested, see specs in the link below for compatible device model numbers (same link as in the OP) :
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/memory-cards/mb-fa256g-am-mb-fa256g-am/
2 years since UFS card was released, only 26 devices support it...way to go Samsung..
it's the case with most storage devices, you go with a standard connection or you struggle to get others to pick it up. had Samsung started making this standard in their phones it likely would have seen a larger outcry than the removal of the SD slot as it would force those who use them to buy new cards as it has no cross compatibility with SD.
had they found a way to do this expanding the SD technology it would have became far more common but on a new format it will take a long long time to get traction and is more likely to be put in devices that can have multiple storage connectors, as it allows them to give legacy support with support for the new.
then there is getting third party support iif it is something that needs to be licensed from Samsung for every device it goes in, as it will just add production costs to devices.
it's the same if you look at M2 hard drives in PC's, PCIe drives have been around for years the M2 connector has been about a fair while now, but it still has relatively little traction in hardware and that is built on a standard system that has been in computers for years, for a closed system built from the ground up it is going to take a long long time to get any traction if it ever can demand the market share. while Samsung is massive in the memory market the internal support is way more likely than any use for adin cards with how large base storage is getting in some devices. the memory cards now are used for little more than audio/video/picture storage so speed isn't really as important as if you are editing you have a large high speed storage you can utilize first and really if you are outside that storage space you are going to want more power than a phone for the editing.
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Hello.
The phone has UFS 3.0 storage support, but does it support UFS cards?
I've tried 256gb card and my N10+ doesn't recognize it.
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What brand of card?
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2 years since UFS card was released, only 26 devices support it...way to go Samsung..
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The Note 10/10+/10+ 5G supports UFS 3.0 for internal storage, not for microSD storage.
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it's the case with most storage devices, you go with a standard connection or you struggle to get others to pick it up. had Samsung started making this standard in their phones it likely would have seen a larger outcry than the removal of the SD slot as it would force those who use them to buy new cards as it has no cross compatibility with SD.
had they found a way to do this expanding the SD technology it would have became far more common but on a new format it will take a long long time to get traction and is more likely to be put in devices that can have multiple storage connectors, as it allows them to give legacy support with support for the new.
then there is getting third party support iif it is something that needs to be licensed from Samsung for every device it goes in, as it will just add production costs to devices.
it's the same if you look at M2 hard drives in PC's, PCIe drives have been around for years the M2 connector has been about a fair while now, but it still has relatively little traction in hardware and that is built on a standard system that has been in computers for years, for a closed system built from the ground up it is going to take a long long time to get any traction if it ever can demand the market share. while Samsung is massive in the memory market the internal support is way more likely than any use for adin cards with how large base storage is getting in some devices. the memory cards now are used for little more than audio/video/picture storage so speed isn't really as important as if you are editing you have a large high speed storage you can utilize first and really if you are outside that storage space you are going to want more power than a phone for the editing.
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Why does the card need to be physically compatible? As far as i can tell the rough dimensions of the cards are close enough they could make a dual purpose slot, face the card down for micro sd face up for ufs, max they would need to supply a second sim/storage tray in the box, but that doesn't seem to be a huge hurdle
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What brand of card?
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If my memory serves me correctly you are right.
The 10+ nonetheless writes/reads to a fast card very fast. The weak link is transfering large files via USB or cloud not between internal memory/SD card.
A V60 rated one might do better but I'm having zero issues with a Lexar rated at V30. To have a fast handheld PC with close to a 1 tb of memory is unbelievable.
Best of all you can use the SD card as a data drive.
Yeah I got a hard on over this:laugh:
Complete OS reloads/data restores can be done with no PC or internet needed. The 200+ gb music library Poweramp uses is on the SD card. Poweramp restored its playlist from this new data base in less than a minute, and plays them flawlessly.
Get a name card with a good reputation as reliability as well as speed is what you're paying for.
A .5tb V30 Lexar can be had for around $80 now.
Format in phone; good to go.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/accessories/memory-upgrade-time-t4155549
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Is there any reason that all leaks so far says that the phone only have 8GB Storage. Especially the HTC HD7, which is supposed to be HTCs state of the art Phone should have at least 16GB Storage from the beginning. 8GB isn't quite enough for someone with a lot of music and other media, and to say "but it has 25GB cloud storage!" isn't valid when talking about Music and media, scince the cloud isn't always there and can't be as responsive as a local storage.
Nobody knows anything for sure. Every leak was mentioning 8GB in all devices except an LG one, but whether that will be the only option or this is just the amount of storage in current pre-production devices or this is the capacity of storage cards that will be shipped (but can be somehow changed later) remains to be seen.
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Nobody knows anything for sure. Every leak was mentioning 8GB in all devices except an LG one, but whether that will be the only option or this is just the amount of storage in current pre-production devices or this is the capacity of storage cards that will be shipped (but can be somehow changed later) remains to be seen.
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I hope they're all just held on by a latch under the battery...if not those OEMs that just made 8GB phones really messed up. But they're just Gen 1 phones anyway. Really hoping to see MS code the drivers for Hummingbird & Tegra chipsets.
If those cards are somehow accessible, that would indeed be great. Especially if SDXC is supported.
On the other hand, they can easily mess up, this won't be the first or the last time they do it.
I think that the reason we are seeing 8GB on all the leaks are because these are test devices.
Let's think about it, most of the device specs that have been leaked are using non-removable SD cards.
SD cards are relatively cheap, just plug it in and viola, you got 8, 16, or 32 GB. Knowing this, it seems likely that we'll see an OEM (such as HTC), release one device (such as HD3) with several different storage levels (8GB, 16GB, 32GB) simply because the cost of adding a higher storage card is negligible compared to using flash storage.
The reason for all these 8GB devices is because WP7 requires a minimum of 8GB built in storage for apps and media. Manufacturers can make it as high they want.
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Is there any reason that all leaks so far says that the phone only have 8GB Storage. Especially the HTC HD7, which is supposed to be HTCs state of the art Phone should have at least 16GB Storage from the beginning. 8GB isn't quite enough for someone with a lot of music and other media, and to say "but it has 25GB cloud storage!" isn't valid when talking about Music and media, scince the cloud isn't always there and can't be as responsive as a local storage.
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Exactly one of the reasons why I don't want to buy WP7 when it comes out. I might go to Android for the time being.
All CPUs are qualcomm 8250, no tethering, 8gb storage, no expanision (had this been on the phones, it would have forgiven the 8gb internal storage). All though I LOVE how it is incorporated to XBL, I don't think that is enough to win me over. I'm on the fence here.
Yeah, that they're also using the QSD8250 sucks. On the other hand, I don't think that Android will be faster with QSD8650A than a WP7 with the QSD8250. Part because Android is kinda slow so the extra CPU power will probably be consumed and games and Apps in Android is developed to fit with slower devices (and devices without 2.2)
Tethering is confirmed from what I've heard, but it's up to the carrier to decide if it should be enabled.
My biggest worries is still the 8GB memory (and lack of important APIs), but hopefully it's only because of the testing devices all leaks report 8GB.
Ideally, I would love have any WP7 with a SD Slot so I can go and buy a 32gb to potentially replace my 30gb 1st gen Zune, since it's built in then use whatever is onboard for phone use. As of right now, I'm still rocking a day 1 G1 with the stock 1gb inside, so anything right now will be considered an upgrade. I do have a feeling that the "leaked" specs may just test units or even a Euro specific version and the US version may differ....but then again that would be in a perfect world. Only time will tell with the "official release".
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Ideally, I would love have any WP7 with a SD Slot so I can go and buy a 32gb to potentially replace my 30gb 1st gen Zune, since it's built in then use whatever is onboard for phone use. As of right now, I'm still rocking a day 1 G1 with the stock 1gb inside, so anything right now will be considered an upgrade. I do have a feeling that the "leaked" specs may just test units or even a Euro specific version and the US version may differ....but then again that would be in a perfect world. Only time will tell with the "official release".
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How the hell does Your G1 have 1g of internal storage?
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
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How the hell does Your G1 have 1g of internal storage?
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
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Not internal....SD Card. Hell, 1gb internal would be amazing. I dont use many apps but it sure would help out.
Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.
I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.
I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.
Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.
The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.
If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.
i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol
Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.
Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN
what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?
I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
i dont care about SD suport.
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Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net
With the OnePlus 3 including dual SIM, couldn't we swap the dual SIM tray for a SIM and microSD tray, therefore giving us expandable storage?
It seems that OP3 doesn't support SD Cards :/
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With the OnePlus 3 including dual SIM, couldn't we swap the dual SIM tray for a SIM and microSD tray, therefore giving us expandable storage?
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I've watched and read quite a few high-profile reviews and nobody has mentioned whether an SD card it will work in the sum tray. I would assume that it won't.
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it won't -- dual sim only
i would also like to no if there would be a way to make this work, the one plus x has the dual slot but the ability to use a sd card so why wouldn't the bigger better phone also be able to...
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i would also like to no if there would be a way to make this work, the one plus x has the dual slot but the ability to use a sd card so why wouldn't the bigger better phone also be able to...
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Maybe wait for a tear down of the device to be certain?? Unless someone has the schematics to look it up for us right now...
Also wait till after June they may be bringing out a bigger storage version. And also the Gold 1 comes out then. I won't buy it if I can at least get 128GB and Gold. Otherwise not worth it.
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64gb is enough for me. Internal is faster anyways. This device is a beauty and a beast.
Would love to have a SD card. More then once killed backups by factory resetting the internal storage But probably wont be possible to get this to work on the 3...
But ordred one aniway
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Would love to have a SD card. More then once killed backups by factory resetting the internal storage But probably wont be possible to get this to work on the 3...
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USB OTG is supported... no problem
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USB OTG is supported... no problem
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I really really can't stress enough how true this is. I've been saying it for years, and nobody seems to see it. If you can connect whatever to the USB (such as an external memory or HDD) your need for an internal card is greatly reduced (as long as the phone has a bare minimum of storage space to make it serviceable).
But I was beginning to think I was the only one seeing that!
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I really really can't stress enough how true this is. I've been saying it for years, and nobody seems to see it. If you can connect whatever to the USB (such as an external memory or HDD) your need for an internal card is greatly reduced (as long as the phone has a bare minimum of storage space to make it serviceable).
But I was beginning to think I was the only one seeing that!
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OTG is definitely useful and I learned that on my 64gb nexus 6 but it is no where near as convenient as having an sd card slot or higher internal storage amount.
I made use of it out of pure necessity but having foolishly bought another 64gb only device in my note 5 I decided I will never again buy a device without a minimum 128gb internal storage or an ext sd card slot.
its just not worth the hassle for me personally being forced to use OTG.
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The lack of expandable storage is a deal-breaker, whatever anyone might say otherwise. You can simply remove the SD Card with ALL the data & backup from a phone that goes dead.
Would have also loved a IR blaster AND a larger battery, which I might add, could have been incorporated by raising the back & making it flush with the camera bump.
Current iteration of Oneplus with a dedicated Micro SD card slot (Not a Hybrid One), IR Blaster & a larger battery (4000+ mAh) would have destroyed every other phone.
cloud storage is far easier for backup than microSD.
4000mAh battery would make the phone significantly heavier and thicker
IR blaster is a niche product and cost-ineffective to implement since most won't use it.
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cloud storage is far easier for backup than microSD.
4000mAh battery would make the phone significantly heavier and thicker
IR blaster is a niche product and cost-ineffective to implement since most won't use it.
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Define easier for backup,how so?
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Define easier for backup,how so?
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Google photos for example. I would have bought the op3 even if it was 16 gb due to storing everyting in the Cloud.
I have an extra SD card, I'll try to cut it out to the size of a micro sim and see it it works, I don't think it will but with a try
will not work, phone only have two regular sim slots, not hybrid with sd card reader. opened, seen. probably what you'll get, stucked sd card in sim slot and voided warranty.
Ah bummer... just decided to get one but it's a dealbreaker for me too.
only for sim
oneplus 3 will only support dual sim no sd card
My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
From my understanding there aren't any cards at the moment quick enough to serve the role efficiently. Just use it as an external storage until faster cards become available.
I was about to make a post concerning the best Micro SD cards do Moto Z Play, thanks for bringing that up!
I have a 128gb Samsung EVO micro sd, class 10, but it's 48mb/s and I got the same message you did, saying the card isn't fast enough and that the overall apps and system speeds could be slower.
I thought class 10 micro sd's were among the fastest and the Moto Z Play wouldn't have any trouble using it as an extension of it's internal storage, but as a matter of fact, there are indeed faster micro sds. After researching a little bit, I found Samsung EVOs with 80mb/s transfer speeds (the 48mb/s are colored orange, as the 80mb/s are little green ones):
I still haven't bought one, but I browsed through some forums and videos and people with the same problem said 80mb/s seems to do the trick and they didn't get any message complaining about the micro sd speed.
f you want even faster micro sds, try the Sandisk Extreme, with speeds up to 90mb/s:
I have to get a faster micro SD anyway, as soon as i do i'll post here my experience with it.
Hope this helps,
Cheers!
While running the adopted 50 MB card AFT fails on most copy operations.
I am afraid ? that 2 times faster may not be enough for the already challenged ATF, buggy as it is already.
aviwdoowks said:
My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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Just 12 not including the statusbar pro, which I cannot live without.
Better?
Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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In my use case, adaptable storage doesn't make much sense on devices with 32gb or more of internal storage. Unless you really need that much space for app installs, the limitations outweigh the benefits. My typical app load is around 8 to 10gb, so I have somewhere around another 10 available on the MZP, as long as I pull all my media into an external card. This way I know all my apps are using fast internal storage, and I don't have to wonder if a widget is available or not. And I can pull the card and use it in a PC or other device.
Now my Moto E 2 (with 8gb onboard) is a different story. But I use a hybrid card in that - 20gb as adopted and the other 40 as external. May consider this as an option when I get around to getting a card for the MZP
I took a 32gb card and combined it. It warned me too. After reading up on the function, Android evaluates what to put where. Having the card separate made it less useful only good for photos and video really. This way app data can be buffered there. Things like cloud services buffer files internally. Netflix now uses SD but that was an issue too.
Bought a new micro SD for the Moto Z Play and it works perfectly with no warnings about it's speed being slow!
It's a Samsung PRO 64 GB microSDXC Card, with 90 MB/s reading speed and 80 MB/s writing speed.
As you insert the card and format it to be part of the phone's internal storage, the system doesn't complain about the card being too slow or that it'll affect the overall app and system speed.
It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
Cheers! =)
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It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
So I am left to getting large music files from an external drive over OTG.
It is so much more reliable to drop the file right to the SD and move the card to the phone.
If the adopted card fails , you need a data wipe or an update screws it up, you have a bad phone day!
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
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Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
tag68 said:
It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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tag68 said:
Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
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Is that only on snow?
I do have a snow partition for older programs.
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
Tell me more please, cause I hate ATF soooo much. Why does Android drop it's ball like this?
aviwdoowks said:
Is that only on snow?
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I'm quite sure that file sharing via smb: is available on nearly all versions of Windows and OSX.
You may start Windows file sharing in network settings of OSX. Then you can give access to some drive in Finder.
If you google a bit, you will find help I guess.
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So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
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Buy? Total Commander is free of cost, including all necessary plugins. For Windows file sharing (smb) you need the TC LAN plugin.
Edit: By "a bit slower" I meant because it usually is being used via WLAN in your intranet
Just wanted to post back here - finally got around to picking up an sd card for the MZP. Went with Samsung evo 128gb, $40 on Amazon. Since it's got plenty of space, I decided to go the same route that I did with the moto e, and do hybrid storage. Formatted 25% adopted and 75% external. Gives me an additional 30gb internal space and 90gb external storage.
Device sees the storage space fine. A couple apps I've messed with so far (Netflix and Google play music) can save to external fine, but don't recognize the additional available space in "internal", or at last don't report it as available.
I don't plan to move any apps that I use frequently or anything that I use widgets from to adopted, as the advertised max read speed is only 20mb/s. Haven't actually tested yet. But I did move a couple low use apps over. Reported storage space on both internal and adopted updated correctly (an issue I've had in the past).
So far, so good.
Hi guys...
If i buy the 128gb model have Samsung finally allowed the use of an SD card as adoptable storage yet?
If not is their a hack to enable this for this phone?
thanks in advance
nk33 said:
Hi guys...
If i buy the 128gb model have Samsung finally allowed the use of an SD card as adoptable storage yet?
If not is their a hack to enable this for this phone?
thanks in advance
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As far as I know adoptable storage was never fully implemented by Android. From what I understand the speed of the SD card is way slower then the internal storage so if you merge then together you end up with a weakest leak situation. Samsung's inclusion of adoptable storage is what made TouchWiz so darn laggy. For now it's still actually there but case by case. If you go to different app settings some will give you the option to move it to the SD card. And it's always be that way. Nothing new.
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As far as I know adoptable storage was never fully implemented by Android. From what I understand the speed of the SD card is way slower then the internal storage so if you merge then together you end up with a weakest leak situation. Samsung's inclusion of adoptable storage is what made TouchWiz so darn laggy. For now it's still actually there but case by case. If you go to different app settings some will give you the option to move it to the SD card. And it's always be that way. Nothing new.
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I am pretty sure adoptable storage on Android is a standard thing - since Android M.....its just Samsung that refused to implement it.
I do understand why they dont implement it - that's because if people use it the phone will lag and slow down sometimes when using apps whos data is stored on there - and samsung are worried they will get support calls regarding this and also it may reflect badly on the phone itself...
I currently own a razer phone 2 (RP1 previous to that), and previous to that all Samsung. The RP1 and 2 both support adoptable storage and as long as you purchase a high-speed sd card (not the standard ones) then adoptable storage works well
I want to buy the 512gb Ultra but they are out of stock everywher in the UK - so i thought an option would be to buy the 128gb as long as it supprts adoptable storage so i can "turn it into" a larger device storage
I know this an older thread, but with the speed of cards, I don't understand why an alternative to adoptable storage hasn't been developed. I had the Razer phone 2 with a Samsung EVO U10 512GB card and the phone was not noticbly slower in everyday tasks, but did slow when loading games and such. I still loved it, however, I think it was ditched by Samsung because people don't understand that once the card is adopted, removing it with the device on, renders all data on th card as corrupt, even upon reinsertion. Sometimes it's reclaim the card other times it wouldn't. Samsung tech support would be inundated with calls related to it so it was disabled. With the files sizes ballooning, 256GB should be the smallest storage available on a a premium phone and with the advances in storage, why isn't the OS determining what can and cannot go onto the SD card automatically?
I currently use APP2SD and while it moves the apps, I don't seem to be gaining that space back on the internal storage. Weird.
While not a strictly apples-to-apples comparison, I find fbind more flexible and largely superior to adoptable storage.
i will just wait until terabyte nand-flash ufs will be standard in even the cheapest smartphones. apps like firefox, aliexpress, amazon, google itself generate so much data it's horrible. i have to clear the data once every week. when you watch a movie with firefox for android and the movie is 1000 mb big, guess how much nand-flash will be used? you guessed correctly 1024 mb!
Adoptable storage is awesome - it works really well on all but Samsung.
Isnt there some way of using the external storage -
Its ridiculous that they build a tablet that has only 3GB storage free with a memory expansion slot that can hold memory but cannot be used by the system.
This device was a gift - will NEVER buy Samsung.