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Afaik.. most if not all Android games are lock in 30fps ? a few has the option to run at 60fps... so what is the purpose of the 120hz display?
for home screen at navigation only ?
andr3wchong said:
Afaik.. most if not all Android games are lock in 30fps ? a few has the option to run at 60fps... so what is the purpose of the 120hz display?
for home screen at navigation only ?
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No not all android games are locked at 30 or 60 fps, many are not locked at all, which means they can reach 120 fps even with little to no aupport.
120FPS can and does function everywhere that has no framerate lock (just like PC). Even custom roms run at 120 fps.
For a list of OFFICIALLY supported games refer to
https://support.razer.com/mobile/razer-phone
Here you will see a list if officially supported games. However, games that are NOT framerate locked "can" reach 120FPS depending on how graphically heavy they are.
You will see the 120 fps everywhere and i personally have not found any part of the OS where there might be a framerate lock mainly because there is none. Also its super smooth and responsive.
Now yes games that are locked will not reach higher framerates unless official support is added by the game developer.
andr3wchong said:
Afaik.. most if not all Android games are lock in 30fps ? a few has the option to run at 60fps... so what is the purpose of the 120hz display?
for home screen at navigation only ?
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You can also have the FPS show on your screen while using the phone (in any app) and you'll see a lot of games run higher than 30 or 60fps.
This setting can be found towards the bottom of developer options
I recently upgraded to the Mate 20 X and I'm finding the scrolling performance in Chrome browser to be a very poor stuttery mess.
Try this out,
load up the chrome browser, in the address/search bar type 'brownie recipe', now slowly scroll the page up and down, hitching, stuttering, not smooth at all.
Now do the same but use the google app, buttery smooth? doesn't make sense.
Now enable performance mode in the battery settings menu and try the same in chrome browser again, buttery smooth?
I swear when these phones were sent out for review they all had the performance mode on by default.
lowrider007 said:
I recently upgraded to the Mate 20 X and I'm finding the scrolling performance in Chrome browser to be a very poor stuttery mess.
Try this out,
load up the chrome browser, in the address/search bar type 'brownie recipe', now slowly scroll the page up and down, hitching, stuttering, not smooth at all.
Now do the same but use the google app, buttery smooth? doesn't make sense.
Now enable performance mode in the battery settings menu and try the same in chrome browser again, buttery smooth?
I swear when these phones were sent out for review they all had the performance mode on by default.
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After using Chrome for years I switched to Samsung Browser Beta and everything is smooth. It even has a dark mode and all web pages you visit are dark when dark mode is enabled. It has add-on support as well and fingerprint login for whatever websites you want. I'll never use Chrome again.
Hello, I use Chrome Dev instead of Chrome and everything is ok.
Inviato dal mio EVR-AL00 utilizzando Tapatalk
Better you use Samsung Internet Browser + Adblock
For all it's worth I have no such issues with Firefox Beta, however it is not one of the fastest Android browsers to begin with, but it is extremely configurable. Great assortment of extensions (uBlock Origin, Cookie AutoDelete, etc), bookmark synching, DNS over https, and a ton of other options under about:config
lowrider007 said:
I recently upgraded to the Mate 20 X and I'm finding the scrolling performance in Chrome browser to be a very poor stuttery mess.
Try this out,
load up the chrome browser, in the address/search bar type 'brownie recipe', now slowly scroll the page up and down, hitching, stuttering, not smooth at all.
Now do the same but use the google app, buttery smooth? doesn't make sense.
Now enable performance mode in the battery settings menu and try the same in chrome browser again, buttery smooth?
I swear when these phones were sent out for review they all had the performance mode on by default.
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Mine is buttery smooth when doing this, the only "lag" is loading more recipes at the bottom of page, but scrolling is like cutting warm butter.
no issues on mine, but I am in performance mode all the time...
I had poor performance with Chrome too. Problems was with the Chrome beta testing which selected my Phone to go 2G-network on newspaper site.
Is there currently a way to have Chrome take advantage of the 120Hz refresh rate? While I have 120Hz selected on my S20+ I noticed Chrome scrolling wasn't as smooth as in other apps.
Going to https://testufo.com/ confirms my observations as it reports 60Hz. It does work properly in the Samsung browser despite giving stutter warnings.
Weird, testufo is reporting 120Hz on Chrome for me.
S20+, ATBM, all current.
corwin_amber said:
Weird, testufo is reporting 120Hz on Chrome for me.
S20+, ATBM, all current.
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Are you using the main version of Chrome or Chrome beta? Main version here
Edit - While I've noticed scrolling smoothness issues in Chrome before, I force closed the browser and re-launched it and it's working. I'll see if it's just an intermittent thing or something
Haven't had it drop down to 60Hz in Chrome, but scrolling is still really bad! Might just stick with the Samsung browser or something at this point (I like the layout of the Edge browser, but there's too many issues with it otherwise)
I have to say that I prefer the Samsung browser anyway: It has a good dark mode and it supports ad blocking plugins. But that is a personal preference.
corwin_amber said:
I have to say that I prefer the Samsung browser anyway: It has a good dark mode and it supports ad blocking plugins. But that is a personal preference.
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I just might try it out - as long as 1Password works with it (I'll check)
Update - yes it does! Now to install the Chrome bookmark sync extension on my desktop. Thanks!
Update 2 - scrolling performance is even worse on the Samsung browser! Guess I'll just have to live with this issue for now.
Sometimes when the phone is too hot, it will change back to 60Hz and may have the significantly lags.
I've also experieced the same problem after I do the wireless charging and the back of the phone got so hot, and the chipset (Exynos) got thermal throttling. The phone became very laggy and when I checked with screen info, it went down to 60Fps.
Unless my eyes are tricking me, Firefox seems to be showing me 120hz smoothness? Tried a few different sites to check. Got a few extensions installed, too.
My poco f3 stutter really bad when scrolling, its happening almost on every apps, except facebook. Im using stok rom MIUI 12.5.5, rooted. This is the example when im using twitter app.
avatarwan13 said:
My poco f3 sutter really bad when scrolling, its happening almost on every apps, except facebook. Im using stok rom MIUI 12.5.5, rooted. This is the example when im using twitter app.
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120 hz enabled in display settings right?
souvy said:
120 hz enabled in display settings right?
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Yes, 120Hz enabled
Since it is smooth on Facebook it is not a hardware issue. Try the following and post screenshots
Enable Developer options. Navigate to Settings > About > Build number and tap on Build number seven times.
Profile GPU rendering; tap on that and choose “On screen as bars”.
miravision said:
Since it is smooth on Facebook it is not a hardware issue. Try the following and post screenshots
Enable Developer options. Navigate to Settings > About > Build number and tap on Build number seven times.
Profile GPU rendering; tap on that and choose “On screen as bars”.
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Are you able to collate the judders with the spikes in GPU rendering?
I sometimes notice judder when viewing a webview even at 120 Hz.
To help you diagnose, is Samsung Browser smooth while scrolling?
miravision said:
Are you able to collate the judders with the spikes in GPU rendering?
I sometimes notice judder when viewing a webview even at 120 Hz.
To help you diagnose, is Samsung Browser smooth while scrolling?
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This is when its stuttering
miravision said:
Are you able to collate the judders with the spikes in GPU rendering?
I sometimes notice judder when viewing a webview even at 120 Hz.
To help you diagnose, is Samsung Browser smooth while scrolling?
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Samsung browser is smooth when im scrolling, but sometimes its stuttering, but not very often. In twitter app, stutter is really bad.
That proves my observation. I noticed that your temperatures are under control at 36
If Samsung Browser is smooth then I think its the webview renderer that is the problem.
As to why twitter app stutters so bad could be because it uses webview to render tweets
Try updating to the latest webview or the latest canary build for bromite or chrome webview
A fix that worked for me is to set the refresh rate to 60Hz , clear the app data from the performance and battery app and then set the refresh rate back to 120Hz
So, i tried geekbench, and running compute benchmark (opencl and vulkan), I think the score is very low, even lower than my Huawei Nova 5t phone. First pict is my poco scores, the second is my Huawei scores.
Hello,
I've had this phone for a week and while there are certain things I love about it (the fingerprint scanner and the cameras are amazing as you all know), I've been very disappointed with the phone's performance. In my case, the phone has a lot of hiccups and stuttering while browsing through menus and in particular, the screen has a delay and slows down if you're opening menus while you have youtube or the camera app or any kind of media open. If I had to describe it, it's as if the display slows to less than 60 hz while trying to play animations, with everything becoming slow and jagged and laggy, although I have set it permanently to 120 hz. The smoothness just isn't there and I noticed that if I open a youtube video and hit stop, the phone becomes decently smooth in menus, but as soon as I hit play, it slows down right away.
It's particularly strange since the phone does not overheat as I've read it does for some people, yet it has those performance issues even while playing videos at a lower resolution. Sometimes I get the same delay and lag even in basic apps such as messenger while typing. The scores I get in benchmark apps are the same I see in reviews, yet in real-world use, it's less smooth than a mid-range, not to mention other flagships. Hell, I still have my Oneplus 7 pro and that's way smoother and you don't even notice when you have youtube in the background.
Did anyone else experience that? Returning the phone would be quite a big hassle at this point, so I'm hoping there's something else I could do. I've tried all kinds of things like resetting the phone, allowing full access to battery for most apps and other similar measures, but I'm willing to try more.
Thanks.
Go to Developer settings > Running services
Running services is basically a task manager for Android
You can also terminate tasks in there
First active Developer settings. In case you don't already know.
Go-to Settings
Scroll down to about phone
In about phone go to build number and tap it multiple times until it says "you're now a developer!"
Go to outside of about phone and Developer settings will be below About Phone.
Hey, thanks for the reply.
Everything seems to be fine in terms of resource usage, or at least nothing seems to use a ton of resources.
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
valiiii4 said:
Hey, thanks for the reply.
Everything seems to be fine in terms of resource usage, or at least nothing seems to use a ton of resources.
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You can click on the settings (three dots) on the top right corner and click "Show cached Processes", maybe the system is not getting rid of old cache data.
Confused Gamer said:
You can click on the settings (three dots) on the top right corner and click "Show cached Processes", maybe the system is not getting rid of old cache data.
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Okay, so I've discovered the main issue, but nothing that works to fix it yet. Thanks to your tip of using developer options, I activated the show refresh rate option and sure enough, it drops to 60 hz or lower in a lot of apps, despite me having it set at 120 hz permanently.
Now I know youtube and a lot of apps only support 60 hz, but the strange thing is that the entire screen drops to 60hz while using them. For example, if I check my notifcations or do anything else with the dropdown menu, the display just slows down in menus. As a reference, whenever I used youtube on my old One Plus 7 pro, the dropdown menu was always smooth and set at 90hz even while running youtube or other apps.
I've tried some apps like SmartHerz, Setedit and forcing 120 hz through ADB commands on the Vivo X80 pro, but I've had no luck yet. At least I know what to focus on, thank you for the tips.
valiiii4 said:
Okay, so I've discovered the main issue, but nothing that works to fix it yet. Thanks to your tip of using developer options, I activated the show refresh rate option and sure enough, it drops to 60 hz or lower in a lot of apps, despite me having it set at 120 hz permanently.
Now I know youtube and a lot of apps only support 60 hz, but the strange thing is that the entire screen drops to 60hz while using them. For example, if I check my notifcations or do anything else with the dropdown menu, the display just slows down in menus. As a reference, whenever I used youtube on my old One Plus 7 pro, the dropdown menu was always smooth and set at 90hz even while running youtube or other apps.
I've tried some apps like SmartHerz, Setedit and forcing 120 hz through ADB commands on the Vivo X80 pro, but I've had no luck yet. At least I know what to focus on, thank you for the tips.
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Well at least you were able to narrow down the issue, hope it's easily fixable because the X80 Pro isn't a cheap android device, I certainly hoped it would come with good software.
Vivo implantation of LTPO panel seems to be bad and very laggy.
For reference, mine ROG6 is so much faster than the x80 pro it's not funny, and ALL the apps staying at my chosen refresh rate(unless it's hard coded to use a fixed value).
I'm on A13 beta atm, and i hope they'll fix it asap.
Yeah, it's such a shame to see this amazing hardware being held back by its software.
valiiii4 said:
Okay, so I've discovered the main issue, but nothing that works to fix it yet. Thanks to your tip of using developer options, I activated the show refresh rate option and sure enough, it drops to 60 hz or lower in a lot of apps, despite me having it set at 120 hz permanently.
Now I know youtube and a lot of apps only support 60 hz, but the strange thing is that the entire screen drops to 60hz while using them. For example, if I check my notifcations or do anything else with the dropdown menu, the display just slows down in menus. As a reference, whenever I used youtube on my old One Plus 7 pro, the dropdown menu was always smooth and set at 90hz even while running youtube or other apps.
I've tried some apps like SmartHerz, Setedit and forcing 120 hz through ADB commands on the Vivo X80 pro, but I've had no luck yet. At least I know what to focus on, thank you for the tips.
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Any luck forcing refresh rate to 120 Hz ? I tried different options too but none of them work. Due to LTPO , the refresh rate keeps dropping to 24 Hz when there is no touch which is expected IF smart switch is selected. However since they have given an option to CHOOSE 120 Hz in settings then it should be forced even if it means more battery consumption. Currently that setting has little meaning.
Narendra_B said:
Any luck forcing refresh rate to 120 Hz ? I tried different options too but none of them work. Due to LTPO , the refresh rate keeps dropping to 24 Hz when there is no touch which is expected IF smart switch is selected. However since they have given an option to CHOOSE 120 Hz in settings then it should be forced even if it means more battery consumption. Currently that setting has little meaning.
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No luck here, the option really is pointless and none of the tools that work to force the screen refresh rate for other phones work for Vivo at least from what I've tried. It's even stranger that the entire screen drops to 60 Hz throughout the menus as well, my One Plus 7 Pro kept the scrolling and the drop-down menu smooth at 90 Hz even while running apps like YouTube, but the X80 Pro just slows everything down.
valiiii4 said:
No luck here, the option really is pointless and none of the tools that work to force the screen refresh rate for other phones work for Vivo at least from what I've tried. It's even stranger that the entire screen drops to 60 Hz throughout the menus as well, my One Plus 7 Pro kept the scrolling and the drop-down menu smooth at 90 Hz even while running apps like YouTube, but the X80 Pro just slows everything down.
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Yes , if a Youtube video is playing then the Menu (Settings) screen drops 60 Hz. Otherwise its at 120 Hz if you are scrolling etc.
What's strange is that people are able to force OnePlus 10 Pro displays to 120 Hz refresh rate from what I've seen using apps like Setedit or ADB commands and that phone has an LTPO 2 screen. Not sure whether it's the LTPO 3 that makes those not work for X80 Pro or whether it's something from Vivo themselves.
valiiii4 said:
What's strange is that people are able to force OnePlus 10 Pro displays to 120 Hz refresh rate from what I've seen using apps like Setedit or ADB commands and that phone has an LTPO 2 screen. Not sure whether it's the LTPO 3 that makes those not work for X80 Pro or whether it's something from Vivo themselves.
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It is likely Vivo's implementation. Afterall Its a variable refresh rate and Vivo can force it to 120 Hz if a setting is provided.
Hey guys I found a solution, kind of. Use brightness below a certain level, ltpo won't activate
I'm using around 30 percent, I checked using show refresh rate from dev options. If it's around 30 it stays 120 no matter which app you open. Also setting peak refresh rate to 1 in setedit helps. Good luck. I'll update once I find an option to stop ltpo from working using setedit or something. Plz reply if you know any better solution. Cheerio!