Lineage 17 GPS question - LineageOS Questions & Answers

Unlike many modern versions of Android, I can find no three-tiered setting for GPS accuracy. I'm looking to set it to "Device Only" but it's either off or on, with a few additional location options but nothing more for GPS.
I'm using lineage 17, the second to last update, on a Samsung Tab 4 and I just want to restrict the device to the system GPS app GPS I've set (but it keeps drifting).

neocortex08 said:
Unlike many modern versions of Android, I can find no three-tiered setting for GPS accuracy. I'm looking to set it to "Device Only" but it's either off or on, with a few additional location options but nothing more for GPS.
I'm using lineage 17, the second to last update, on a Samsung Tab 4 and I just want to restrict the device to the system GPS app GPS I've set (but it keeps drifting).
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I don't see any android 10 distro with the old settings (high precision/ device only/energy saving)
GApps installed?

kurtn said:
I don't see any android 10 distro with the old settings (high precision/ device only/energy saving)
GApps installed?
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Yes, Gapps installed and working well (version for Android 10, nano),but I'm not sure google settings would change what would be in the device system settings. I guess I'm just looking for some way to force that missing setting without having to resort to tin foil around the device.

neocortex08 said:
Yes, Gapps installed and working well (version for Android 10, nano),but I'm not sure google settings would change what would be in the device system settings. I guess I'm just looking for some way to force that missing setting without having to reset to tin foil around the device.
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No matter what settings you change, Google knows your location.

kurtn said:
No matter what settings you change, Google knows your location.
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I'm not tin-foil-hat-concerned with Google knowing my location; I'm referring to the systemized GPS app I installed to be able to determine the location I set. Which it can currently, and can usually continue to do when I can set the device to take GPS from "device only". In this case it shows me on the map "rubberbanding" between my actual location and the location I've set about 100 feet away. This is because the OS is allowing the device to try and locate its own location.

neocortex08 said:
I'm not tin-foil-hat-concerned with Google knowing my location; I'm referring to the systemized GPS app I installed to be able to determine the location I set. Which it can currently, and can usually continue to do when I can set the device to take GPS from "device only". In this case it shows me on the map "rubberbanding" between my actual location and the location I've set about 100 feet away. This is because the OS is allowing the device to try and locate its own location.
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Oh, location spoofing
https://f-droid.org/app/com.wesaphzt.privatelocation

GPS drains battery
With previous (before 17) it was possible to set the location service to be switched on, but only use cell data.
When I use the gps device it drains my battery much faster.
Therefore: How can I leave the location service on, but DO NOT USE the gps device in LOS 17 ????
Thanks in advance
Chris

Chris56 said:
How can I leave the location service on, but DO NOT USE the gps device in LOS 17 ????
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+1

luckysoul777 said:
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Do you try to spoof your location? And why? What location providers do you have? GApps?

I guess your reply refers to my question.
Maybe I was not clear.
With former LOS versions I was able to explicitly choose whether to use the (battery draining) gps receiver for my location or not.
I have several other sources of location information (gsm cell based and wifi based) usually with less accuracy. But I may prefer theses under certain circumstances because of less power consumption. I Don't use google but microg.

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Do you try to spoof your location? And why? What location providers do you have? GApps?
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No. I am not trying to spoof anything. I have an automation program called Tasker on my S4. When I was on stock Samsung ROM (5.0.1), I was able to use the "location mode" in Tasker to switch between high accuracy and battery save. If Tasker detected I was running Google Maps, it switched on high accuracy. If not, it switched over to battery save. From what I can tell, high accuracy used GPS + network and battery save used network only.
Now, I'm on LOS 17.1 and battery save would turn on GPS too. It seems the only way to not use GPS is to turn off location mode altogether. This makes me wonder what the differences are between Device Only and Battery Save modes. Since I cannot tell, I am assuming both modes are provided for backward compatibility to Tasker users but the underlining Android 10 doesn't differentiate them.
I am suspecting with Android 10, there are only 3 modes.
* GPS + network
* GPS
* OFF
Thus, if one needs the location service, GPS must be used.
I raised this question elsewhere. Some people actually told me that GPS doesn't consume much power if it's just turned on but not being used, e.g. by Google Maps. I have no way to verify if they are right.

luckysoul777 said:
No. I am not trying to spoof anything. I have an automation program called Tasker on my S4. When I was on stock Samsung ROM (5.0.1), I was able to use the "location mode" in Tasker to switch between high accuracy and battery save. If Tasker detected I was running Google Maps, it switched on high accuracy. If not, it switched over to battery save. From what I can tell, high accuracy used GPS + network and battery save used network only.
Now, I'm on LOS 17.1 and battery save would turn on GPS too. It seems the only way to not use GPS is to turn off location mode altogether. This makes me wonder what the differences are between Device Only and Battery Save modes. Since I cannot tell, I am assuming both modes are provided for backward compatibility to Tasker users but the underlining Android 10 doesn't differentiate them.
I am suspecting with Android 10, there are only 3 modes.
* GPS + network
* GPS
* OFF
Thus, if one needs the location service, GPS must be used.
I raised this question elsewhere. Some people actually told me that GPS doesn't consume much power if it's just turned on but not being used, e.g. by Google Maps. I have no way to verify if they are right.
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Network location is not part of lineageOS. You can add it with GApps or microG. Have you?
Enabling location does not power the satellite receivers continuously. It really needs battery. The job of your tasker script is done by android 10 automatically. If you suspected apps to drain battery with GPS, disable their location permission!

kurtn said:
Network location is not part of lineageOS. You can add it with GApps or microG. Have you?
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I'm using Gapps, the nano package. Do you know which one comes with network location? I can't tell because this comparison chart doesn't show it for any packages, https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Package-Comparison
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If you suspected apps to drain battery with GPS, disable their location permission!
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The reason I preferred to keep it on battery save instead of off completely in the old days was that if I ever lost my phone, I wanted to be able to track it. Now with Android 10's mandatory GPS for location service, if I want to disable abusive apps from requesting unnecessary location service, which app should I avoid disabling? Which app is giving out my phone's location if I am tracking it remotely?
Thank you

luckysoul777 said:
I'm using Gapps, the nano package. Do you know which one comes with network location? I can't tell because this comparison chart doesn't show it for any packages, https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Package-Comparison
The reason I preferred to keep it on battery save instead of off completely in the old days was that if I ever lost my phone, I wanted to be able to track it. Now with Android 10's mandatory GPS for location service, if I want to disable abusive apps from requesting unnecessary location service, which app should I avoid disabling? Which app is giving out my phone's location if I am tracking it remotely? Thank you
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I think the answer to both questions is Google play services. com.google.android.gms It's the mightiest app on your phone. I avoid installing it.

kurtn said:
I think the answer to both questions is Google play services. com.android.google.gms It's the mightiest app on your phone. I avoid installing it.
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I still see one drawback with very selectively granting apps location service. For example, I do want to grant Chrome location service to facilitate better search. If I'm indoor, wouldn't GPS without a clear view of the sky trying very hard to get a fix and thus burn more power than necessary? With that said, can High Accuracy (GPS + network) actually be more power efficient under Android 10 than Battery Save (GPS only)? This is assuming Chrome would give up on GPS when it can't get a fix and be happy with just network while Battery Save would keep trying to get a fix with GPS. Again, this is just my assumption.

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GPS is not Very good

The gps is not very good atleast it is not working very well in my phone.
I tried using cardio trainer. And the gps jumps about. Plus the gps signal shown is very low can anyone put their phone gps through the paces and then tell me should I ask for a replacement or its in all phones
Mines fine.
Mine works fine, GPS is actually pretty good as navigation tells you the road names..!
Dopedangel said:
The gps is not very good atleast it is not working very well in my phone.
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Can you clarify if you're talking about hardware or software?
And did you compare GS with other GPS at the very same time and place?
I too am seeing poor performance with the GPS. Seems to be a hardware issue.
I did a test over the weekend comparing my Galaxy S with a friend's HTC Desire. Using one of the many GPS utilities the Desire was consistently seeing and locking more satellites when stood in an open area outside. When running Google maps and showing the current location I found that the "accuracy circle" (for want of a better description) was growing and shrinking several times a minute causing the map to zoom in and out.
I've also noticed that the compass is almost unusable and showing a much lower signal compared to the Desire. I did perform the figure of 8 calibration several times.
Not tried the GPS yet, but I'm amazed how accurate network location is on this thing.
On my old G1 network location was laughable, but this thing knows pretty much exactly where it is without GPS.
MarvinTheAndroid said:
Not tried the GPS yet, but I'm amazed how accurate network location is on this thing.
On my old G1 network location was laughable, but this thing knows pretty much exactly where it is without GPS.
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probably having wifi on? google can locate you more precise cause it has registered every wifi network during the streetview picture taking.
tommy34 said:
probably having wifi on? google can locate you more precise cause it has registered every wifi network during the streetview picture taking.
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No, this is with wifi turned off.
tommy34 said:
probably having wifi on? google can locate you more precise cause it has registered every wifi network during the streetview picture taking.
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Lol what kind of anti-google propaganda have you been reading?
Google streetview cars collected data of open wifi networks.
Besides from the fact that google doesn't use the data (which it isn't allowed to have), there are by far not enough open wifi networks to find your location.
Also. You have to have at least 3 networks to be able to determine a location using wifi access points.
So the statement you just made is rubbish and ofcourse nonsense...
BasieP said:
Lol what kind of anti-google propaganda have you been reading?
Google streetview cars collected data of open wifi networks.
Besides from the fact that google doesn't use the data (which it isn't allowed to have), there are by far not enough open wifi networks to find your location.
Also. You have to have at least 3 networks to be able to determine a location using wifi access points.
So the statement you just made is rubbish and ofcourse nonsense...
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i dont care about it, i like it.
hmm. just figured this because where i live there arent any open networks and with wifi on it knows my exact location. Without wifi it has a 1600 m radius.
The GPS seems to work flawlessly for me at least.
BasieP said:
Google streetview cars collected data of open wifi networks. Besides from the fact that google doesn't use the data (which it isn't allowed to have), there are by far not enough open wifi networks to find your location.
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Google collected the SSID and MAC addresses for all of the wifi networks they found, with the explicit intention of using them as an additional source of location data. They also inadvertently collected more data from open networks, and that's what they're in trouble for.
googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-update.html
yes and the new google navigation api in the i9000 and android appears to use this data as the damn thing turns on your wifi even when off when gps tries to get a fix!
lgkahn said:
yes and the new google navigation api in the i9000 and android appears to use this data as the damn thing turns on your wifi even when off when gps tries to get a fix!
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you can disable it in location settings then it wont look for wireless data
Dopedangel said:
you can disable it in location settings then it wont look for wireless data
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nope it is disabled and try to get a gps fix.. wifi still comes on and then goes off.. not sure what it is doing.
I got mine and tested.
In the beginning I had a perfect fix on location. When I started moving, however, I experienced this "jumping around" issue with a huge loss of accuracy. The circle of accuracy was also changing constantly. I think I show something about the wifi seeing (or not being able to see - can't remember) some hotspots although my wi-fi was turned off.
Maybe indeed - the phone detects wifi networks even if the wifi as such is off and possibly compares it to an internal database (thus explaining the persistence of the problem even when the radio is off and the phone is not connected on the net).
Do you know any good free program that would allow me to get some test data - e.g. number of satellites / signal quality etc (unless there is already one somewhere in the interface - I am new to Android).
Can someone else run a test? Can some one run a test in an area where no wifi exists.
That's bad news,i'm really interested in this phone (money-forgiving for a while ),but i need great gps performances...
Evans_Prophet said:
Do you know any good free program that would allow me to get some test data - e.g. number of satellites / signal quality etc (unless there is already one somewhere in the interface - I am new to Android).
Can someone else run a test? Can some one run a test in an area where no wifi exists.
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Try "GPS Test" its on the market for free. From my test the GPS is actually quite nice, several 18-25 SNR connections and a few 26-30 SNR ones ( When outside I even find one or two 31-40 SNR ones which is really great).
Anyway I notice that GPS had become far more accurate when I disabled the Wifi-location option. The only problem is that locking down takes some time ( about 10-20 seconds max) in my area.
kitsune223 said:
Try "GPS Test" its on the market for free. From my test the GPS is actually quite nice, several 18-25 SNR connections and a few 26-30 SNR ones ( When outside I even find one or two 31-40 SNR ones which is really great).
Anyway I notice that GPS had become far more accurate when I disabled the Wifi-location option. The only problem is that locking down takes some time ( about 10-20 seconds max) in my area.
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ok - i will test with that and revert..
By the way, in my wm6 Touch HD there was a utility called quickgps which would download data from server instead of having them downloaded from a satellite with a low speed connection. This increased speed of cold lock. Furthermore there was also another option to enable assisted gps (not sure whether this was different from the quick gps application and what this did exactly). I wonder whether these application / features are automatically enabled in our case.
Evans_Prophet said:
I got mine and tested.
In the beginning I had a perfect fix on location. When I started moving, however, I experienced this "jumping around" issue with a huge loss of accuracy. The circle of accuracy was also changing constantly. I think I show something about the wifi seeing (or not being able to see - can't remember) some hotspots although my wi-fi was turned off.
Maybe indeed - the phone detects wifi networks even if the wifi as such is off and possibly compares it to an internal database (thus explaining the persistence of the problem even when the radio is off and the phone is not connected on the net).
Do you know any good free program that would allow me to get some test data - e.g. number of satellites / signal quality etc (unless there is already one somewhere in the interface - I am new to Android).
Can someone else run a test? Can some one run a test in an area where no wifi exists.
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It can also be a problem of google navigation beta?? Did anyone try another gps navigator?
i felt the same thing about GPS, as it is not that good , as there's no wi-fi Google can detect hear. the performance was not that good at all!.
but tonight i used the GPS without the Wifi (i turned it off) and for a surprise the performance was amazing, I was with my friend in his car watching the road as he drive and watching the google map in my phone and was very good indeed.
that's strange!.

Location wrong without WiFi/GPS/Edge

Hey guys,
I tried searching on google but to no solution.
The problem is when I switch off all forms of data except cellular coverage, my location changes to a City where I'm not at. I went to that place maybe thrice since I got the phone.
My location in Maps, Weather or even location saved along when I take pictures will be that other/wrong location.
Its easily fixable by just starting one of the data services, but why should I even face it in the first place.
Its happened on all ROMs and wipes don't fix it. Done a full wipe twice from cwm.
My GPS works normally when I'm using maps, it takes about 30 seconds to get a lock on my location.
Any workaround or solution or fix? (except for not keeping data switched on all the time)
Thank You.
Cheers.
death__machine said:
Hey guys,
I tried searching on google but to no solution.
The problem is when I switch off all forms of data except cellular coverage, my location changes to a City where I'm not at. I went to that place maybe thrice since I got the phone.
My location in Maps, Weather or even location saved along when I take pictures will be that other/wrong location.
Its easily fixable by just starting one of the data services, but why should I even face it in the first place.
Its happened on all ROMs and wipes don't fix it. Done a full wipe twice from cwm.
My GPS works normally when I'm using maps, it takes about 30 seconds to get a lock on my location.
Any workaround or solution or fix? (except for not keeping data switched on all the time)
Thank You.
Cheers.
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Location without GPS is online service. I hope that answers your question about "fixing" it.
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There's three things at play in plotting location: 1) GPS, 2), aGPS, and 3) Geo-location
GPS is the onboard chip functioning alone to pick up satellite signals and lock on them. You can test how well your GPS chip alone works by putting the phone in airplane mode and rebooting it.
All aGPS does is use a wireless signal (Wi-FI or cellular) to help the chip get its first lock faster. Once lock is established the chip is on its own.
From Wiki...
"Assisted GPS is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the startup performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers."
Geo-location uses wireless signals alone to approximate position. Devices w/o a GPS rely on this for location based services.
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"Geolocation is the identification of the real-world geographic location of an object, such as a radar, mobile phone or an Internet-connected computer terminal. Geolocation may refer to the practice of assessing the location, or to the actual assessed location."
Once the chip locks, it memorizes the position of the satellites. So if you had your wireless on to get first lock and then turned it off the chip is still using the satellite locations aGPS helped it find. If you want to test the performance of your chip itself reboot it in airplane mode. Download GPS Test from Play. It'll give you a much better picture of what's happening with your phone. I just tried it on mine and indoors it locked and got down to 15’ accuracy in less than a minute. Conditions affect performance but, at least outdoors, yours should do as well or better than mine. If it doesn’t, it’s a h/w problem.
tkolev said:
Location without GPS is online service. I hope that answers your question about "fixing" it.
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BarryH_GEG said:
There's three things at play in plotting location: 1) GPS, 2), aGPS, and 3) Geo-location
GPS is the onboard chip functioning alone to pick up satellite signals and lock on them. You can test how well your GPS chip alone works by putting the phone in airplane mode and rebooting it.
All aGPS does is use a wireless signal (Wi-FI or cellular) to help the chip get its first lock faster. Once lock is established the chip is on its own.
From Wiki...
"Assisted GPS is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the startup performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers."
Geo-location uses wireless signals alone to approximate position. Devices w/o a GPS rely on this for location based services.
From Wiki...
"Geolocation is the identification of the real-world geographic location of an object, such as a radar, mobile phone or an Internet-connected computer terminal. Geolocation may refer to the practice of assessing the location, or to the actual assessed location."
Once the chip locks, it memorizes the position of the satellites. So if you had your wireless on to get first lock and then turned it off the chip is still using the satellite locations aGPS helped it find. If you want to test the performance of your chip itself reboot it in airplane mode. Download GPS Test from Play. It'll give you a much better picture of what's happening with your phone. I just tried it on mine and indoors it locked and got down to 15’ accuracy in less than a minute. Conditions affect performance but, at least outdoors, yours should do as well or better than mine. If it doesn’t, it’s a h/w problem.
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Thanks, that was a very informative post.
Well I switched on GPS and put my phone in airplane mode and restarted. The Maps App keeps saying "Your current location is temporarily unavailable" and I can't figure how to use the GPS Test yet.
Okay, I did get a lock-on from the Maps and the GPS Test app. I went closer to my window lol . Now I'll see if my location comes up wrong.
Edit:Location came up accurate in weather.
Edit2:Location is accurate in a photo I clicked with everything off.
By accurate I hope you understand what I mean, when all the data goes off the phone should still think its in the place/location where it was when the data was on. Ii.e Surat in my case. But what used to happened before today(gps in airplane) was without data the phone will think its in Pune, which is a 12 hours drive from here.
I'm not the only one who's faced this, some say its a bug in sense :/
Anyways here's a thread I saw earlier
http://www.htconesource.com/forum/htc-one-x-discussion/1042-incorrect-location.html
The answers the guy gets are retarded.
To be sure, are you saying that when only on mobile data and relying upon that, you cannot get an accurate location down to 1 KM?
If so, this sounds like a software issue or a carrier issue.
If your GPS has poor reception then I would advise getting warranty repair. It might have the same issue as the Wifi antennas do.
Yeah just so you know pure GPS is line of sight, you have to have a clear view of the sky to work (no clouds either).
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
To be sure, are you saying that when only on mobile data and relying upon that, you cannot get an accurate location down to 1 KM?
If so, this sounds like a software issue or a carrier issue.
If your GPS has poor reception then I would advise getting warranty repair. It might have the same issue as the Wifi antennas do.
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Yeah just so you know pure GPS is line of sight, you have to have a clear view of the sky to work (no clouds either).
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No no.
My location when all services are on shows up fine. But say I have a weather widget and all my data services are off, instead of showing the location detected last when data services was on the widget and other settings will show another city.
I'll explain it with an example.
Lets have a hypothetical country with all the letters as its cities.
I stay in 'S' at present. I have visited 'P' and 'M' a couple of times but I'm back to 'S' now. On the occasion that my data services switch off, intentionally or because of weak coverage. Instead of showing 'S' as my location in the weather widget, app and geotag the phone will show 'P' which I had visited days ago.

What the heck is "Fused Location"?!?!?

Can anyone tell me what "fused location" is? Almost everytime I boot my Gnex I get "Unfortunately Fused Location has stopped working", while this does not generally affect how my device runs in any way it is quite annoying and seems to only have started happening since I updated to a 4.2.x based rom.
Any input on what the hell this is and what it does if anything would be great.
dankblaze said:
Can anyone tell me what "fused location" is? Almost everytime I boot my Gnex I get "Unfortunately Fused Location has stopped working", while this does not generally affect how my device runs in any way it is quite annoying and seems to only have started happening since I updated to a 4.2.x based rom.
Any input on what the hell this is and what it does if anything would be great.
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Read this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
Sorry to bump this, but I am getting high battery usage from Fused Location, saying it's using my GPS, but GPS is turned off. Are you sure it's to do with the file system?
nellisere said:
Sorry to bump this, but I am getting high battery usage from Fused Location, saying it's using my GPS, but GPS is turned off. Are you sure it's to do with the file system?
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Edit: As pointed out below, my reply here is actually not relating to the topic at hand. I'll leave it, in case someone finds this thread trying to look for fuse filesystem information, though. Sorry about the off-topic reply.
Wikipedia:
Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE) is a loadable kernel module for Unix-like computer operating systems that lets non-privileged users create their own file systems without editing kernel code. This is achieved by running file system code in user space while the FUSE module provides only a "bridge" to the actual kernel interfaces.
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In Android 4.2, specifically, it's used to take the physical filesystem /data/media and create the virtual filesystem /mnt/shell/emulated. /mnt/shell/emulated/0 is then symlinked to /storage/emulated/legacy, which is symlinked to /sdcard, /mnt/sdcard, and /storage/sdcard0.
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In Android 4.2, specifically, it's used to take the physical filesystem /data/media and create the virtual filesystem /mnt/shell/emulated. /mnt/shell/emulated/0 is then symlinked to /storage/emulated/legacy, which is symlinked to /sdcard, /mnt/sdcard, and /storage/sdcard0.
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Guys, you all get it wrong. According to android source code (FusedLocationProvider), Fused Location is actually a location service which combines GPS location and network location to achieve balance between battery consumption and accuracy. It has no connection to the fuse file system.
oasisfeng said:
Guys, you all get it wrong. According to android source code (FusedLocationProvider), Fused Location is actually a location service which combines GPS location and network location to achieve balance between battery consumption and accuracy. It has no connection to the fuse file system.
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Actually I was referring to the fused location.apk, not fusedlocationprovider, so what's said above makes more sense being as on the old versions of paranoidandroid it would stop working yet I had no issue with GPS/locations.
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oasisfeng said:
Guys, you all get it wrong. According to android source code (FusedLocationProvider), Fused Location is actually a location service which combines GPS location and network location to achieve balance between battery consumption and accuracy. It has no connection to the fuse file system.
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dankblaze said:
Actually I was referring to the fused location.apk, not fusedlocationprovider, so what's said above makes more sense being as on the old versions of paranoidandroid it would stop working yet I had no issue with GPS/locations.
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My mistake. Ignore my reply, then. Unfortunately, I haven't had any reason to look into either FusedLocationProvider or the apk, so I can't actually be of any use. Sorry about that.
google maps doesn't yet utilize the newly announced Fused Location Provider
Am I correct in the assumption that the current google maps doesn't yet utilize the newly announced Fused Location Provider? I mean I've always kept location services off because of the substantial hit in battery life. Having received the new Google Play Services API, I tried to turn Location Reporting back on, but its hunger for battery hasn't decreased. I had to turn it off after half a day to make it to the end of the day. My guess is that the current version of maps still uses the old API services. Actually, this is my HOPE.
Fused Location= Google's new GPS system
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Sorry to bump this, but I am getting high battery usage from Fused Location, saying it's using my GPS, but GPS is turned off. Are you sure it's to do with the file system?
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Supposedly ultra-low battery usage and really fast/responsive-- provides the GPS requirements of applications on Android with very little battery usage. It might be using up battery because of some bad coding where it is repeatedly trying to gain access to the GPS but cannot in a loop. Try to turn on GPS and see what other programs you have that are using GPS/Fused Location.
Fused Location Battery Drain
Hi all! I am on a Gnex CM10.1.0 stable. I have started using Carat to try and track down what is using up my battery so quickly. Carat was pointing to the Fused Location as a big drain, so I have force stopped it to see if it will help. I use my GPS a good bit, so will be an interesting test.
Can it be removed if I don't use location ?
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Ltdrev said:
Can it be removed if I don't use location ?
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You can disable it trough "disable service" app from the play store
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Fused Location Provider
The goal of Fused Location Provider (‘Fused’) is to lessen the workload of developers who want to interact with location information. Instead of having an app talk to different location data sources, and provide them with — given that I grokked the slides — a single programmable interface to talk to; Google thus does the hard work in sourcing location, simply feeding it to developers’ applications.
Google does appear to want to drive location usage directly; one simple way to do that is to improve the quality of the signal, and make that signal simple to access. Fused is the embodiment of that ethos, bringing together cellular, WiFi, GPS, and sensor data.
Demos showing off the power of different single systems — WiFI and GPS – compared to the Fused collection showed that Google’s new method is superior to a current single system. That said, while a material improvement, it remains imperfect.
Priority
Developers will have access to three levels of location-information priority. Keep in mind that the more accurate your location data, the more power you are using.
High Accuracy: 5 second check interval, consumes 7.25% per hour, accurate to within around 20 meters, uses GPS when outside, and WiFi when inside.
Balanced Power: 20 second check interval, 0.6% battery usage per hour, and accurate to within 40 meters. This method is what it appears that Google envisions as a way to bring location into a host of new applications, without sacrificing end-user device satisfaction.
No Power: No poll interval, no power consumption, accurate to within around one mile.
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I disabled it. Its a sub-service from Google Play Service
I also disabled AnalyticsService, DispatchingService, GoogleLocationService,GoogleLocationManagerService,NetworkLocationService,NlplocationReceiverService
I'm enabling it if i need them
Ok I doubt anyone else is as stupid as I am, but if you are, DO NOT DISABLE/FREEZE FUSED LOCATION. Bootlooped my phone.
I blame this guy :
oasisfeng said:
Guys, you all get it wrong. According to android source code (FusedLocationProvider), Fused Location is actually a location service which combines GPS location and network location to achieve balance between battery consumption and accuracy. It has no connection to the fuse file system.
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Of course it's mostly my own fault for interpreting his comment incorrectly but I was frustrated over the weak GPS signal of my new phone.
FusedLocationProvider is different than "Fused Location 4.2.2-3"
Fused Location 4.2.2-3 = Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE) = Do not disable
FusedLocationProvider = GPS related = Disable at your own risk
tutorialbs said:
Ok I doubt anyone else is as stupid as I am, but if you are, DO NOT DISABLE/FREEZE FUSED LOCATION. Bootlooped my phone.
I blame this guy :
Of course it's mostly my own fault for interpreting his comment incorrectly but I was frustrated over the weak GPS signal of my new phone.
FusedLocationProvider is different than "Fused Location 4.2.2-3"
Fused Location 4.2.2-3 = Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE) = Do not disable
FusedLocationProvider = GPS related = Disable at your own risk
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ouch! lol!
sorry I don't mean to laugh AT you...Just the situation, can see how that mistake can easily be made
tutorialbs said:
Ok I doubt anyone else is as stupid as I am, but if you are, DO NOT DISABLE/FREEZE FUSED LOCATION. Bootlooped my phone.
I blame this guy :
Of course it's mostly my own fault for interpreting his comment incorrectly but I was frustrated over the weak GPS signal of my new phone.
FusedLocationProvider is different than "Fused Location 4.2.2-3"
Fused Location 4.2.2-3 = Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE) = Do not disable
FusedLocationProvider = GPS related = Disable at your own risk
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please tell me that you read this and can tell me how you solved it. i think i may have made the same mistake
oasisfeng said:
Guys, you all get it wrong. According to android source code (FusedLocationProvider), Fused Location is actually a location service which combines GPS location and network location to achieve balance between battery consumption and accuracy. It has no connection to the fuse file system.
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u r right in a way.
But,there's a huge difference b2in location and location provider.
Location is related to a virtual file system(noob guess) and location provider is related to gps.
80% times, deleting fusedlocation.apk will give u a bootloop in AOSP roms.
gsmitchell said:
Hi all! I am on a Gnex CM10.1.0 stable. I have started using Carat to try and track down what is using up my battery so quickly. Carat was pointing to the Fused Location as a big drain, so I have force stopped it to see if it will help. I use my GPS a good bit, so will be an interesting test.
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Hi 3 years later....
what was the result of your test?
phreakuencies said:
please tell me that you read this and can tell me how you solved it. i think i may have made the same mistake
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Yes my thoughts exactly. This might be an old thread but it turned out to be relevant to me. This part especially.
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So, i disabled Fused Location and when i re-enable it, my gps does not work !! I can't restore my orginal GPS settings and can't use it anymore.My location does not appear in Google maps or other location needed apps.
(I disabled it to use GPS Spoofing for Pokemon GO)

Issue with 'Locations', unable to find current location unless GPS is turned on

I am in need of Android guru assistance. Currently Google Maps app will not update/detect current location and repeatedly request 'Please enable a My Location source in system settings'. Location will only be updated if GPS is turned on (which was not required until this happened)
I have ticked the all the settings under the 'Locations' tab, but still the same occurs. Several apps are affected by this i.e Foursquare (unable to get location), Waze (crash upon launch).
The issue surfaced after I accidentally 'killed' the Maps app using HTC task killer, and tinkered with the Locations Settings under the Maps app.
Tried to return to default values by cross referring to a HTC Butterfly, but problem persist. Anyone has any ideas? Thanks in advance
Device : HTC One X
Rom : Stock Sense 4+
Unrooted phone
There is an option in settings to reinstall gps service. Setting > location >reinstall
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Hi Vceck,
I've already tried reinstalling as suggested. Problem still persists. Google Maps (and apps relying on its positioning) will not work with solely wifi/mobile network and requires GPS. It's quite a weird one, since I believe GMaps positioning can use wifi. Or am I wrong?
VDread said:
I am in need of Android guru assistance. Currently Google Maps app will not update/detect current location and repeatedly request 'Please enable a My Location source in system settings'. Location will only be updated if GPS is turned on (which was not required until this happened)
I have ticked the all the settings under the 'Locations' tab, but still the same occurs. Several apps are affected by this i.e Foursquare (unable to get location), Waze (crash upon launch).
The issue surfaced after I accidentally 'killed' the Maps app using HTC task killer, and tinkered with the Locations Settings under the Maps app.
Tried to return to default values by cross referring to a HTC Butterfly, but problem persist. Anyone has any ideas? Thanks in advance
Device : HTC One X
Rom : Stock Sense 4+
Unrooted phone
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Try dissabling FAST BOOT from settings>power then restart the phone and a message asking permission if you agree that google use your location shold appear
I'm having problems with location too! Today all of the sudden all google apps ask me to enable google location services but they are already enabled and there's just no way to get it working..
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internetjlmb said:
Try dissabling FAST BOOT from settings>power then restart the phone and a message asking permission if you agree that google use your location shold appear
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Hi internetjlmb,
Already did as you suggested, no change. Thanks for the tip tho'.
Now a grimmer issue surfaces -- the 'Maps' app is draining the battery, crazy fast. Unplugged my phone from charger at7.00AM with minimal usage (two short phone calls, no mobile network / wifi enabled), by 8.00AM battery was down to 91%, with 'Maps' taking up 71% of the usage. Screenshot is attached.
I have to disable the 'Maps' app for the time being as everytime I enable it, battery goes down and phone overheats, I kid you not.
Already sent a feedback to Google, but not hoping for any response. Anyone else knows how to solve this predicament? Just to confirm, whenever we 'tick' the 'Google's location service' under the [Location] tab, should it ask any question such as 'Are you sure?' or anything. Mine just ticked and did nothing.
zodiark said:
I'm having problems with location too! Today all of the sudden all google apps ask me to enable google location services but they are already enabled and there's just no way to get it working..
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Hi zodiark,
Same issue here. My Location can only be updated if GPS is activated. Which is a bummer. I don't think GPS is necessar to just update location. Or am I wrong on this?
VDread said:
Just to confirm, whenever we 'tick' the 'Google's location service' under the [Location] tab, should it ask any question such as 'Are you sure?' or anything. Mine just ticked and did nothing.
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In my case I have two options to enable google location services. One of them asks me to accept the terms of service of google, but again nothing happens.
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Same here. Only the 'Location & Google Search' tab will prompt a question when clicked. I had to disable Maps app due to its excessive battery usage.
Hi,
Anyone with a solution to this? This annoys the heck out of me. Is it a phone or Google settings issue?
Thanks.
Issue with recent Google services update
Having exactly the same problem as described by VDread. Folks over Android Central are reporting similar problems and suggest that the problem is with recent Google update and that google is aware of this and that they are working on it.
I was going to do a factory reset but perhaps I settle for disabling Maps for now.
Hi Kreisi,
Thanks for the info. At least me and Zodiark arent the only one with this issue. This however beckons the question : why only some units affected, as opposed to a global scale issue. Hmm.
I have just realized that I am experiencing the same issue. It could also be responsible for the poor battery life on my phone...
Welcome to the club svucinic811. Hope Google / HTC can resolve this soon
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Welcome to the club svucinic811. Hope Google / HTC can resolve this soon
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Well it comforts me to see that there are others and that this is Google related, and that they're working on it. It would be more annoying in the long run if this was just another messed up update by HTC and we had to wait for the next one, hoping it will make the phone usable (like it was supposed to be). I do however hope the fix will come SOON -- my phone seems to be awake all the time, all the location-related services are non-functional, the battery life is piss poor.
Svucinic811,
Disable the 'Maps' apps for the time being. That has been draining my phone's battery. That should help alleviate the heavy usage -- as the phone tend to overheat even in sleep mode. Weird error. Reports from Android Central says that a certain folder/data was somehow misplaced by Google when HTC phones are updated. Could be a Sense v Google settings issue.
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Svucinic811,
Disable the 'Maps' apps for the time being. That has been draining my phone's battery. That should help alleviate the heavy usage -- as the phone tend to overheat even in sleep mode. Weird error. Reports from Android Central says that a certain folder/data was somehow misplaced by Google when HTC phones are updated. Could be a Sense v Google settings issue.
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Thanks, will do and see if it helps. It's not like I care about the stupid Maps anyway...I've had my share of nonsense like this, my next phone will be iPhone or a dumbphone.
Yeah, I've read that thread @ Android Central Forums and that "Network Location" app is in the Downloaded Apps section for me as well.
Same problem here. Can´t get a location and the battery consumption is in the highs!
I had to freeze maps with Titanium Backup for now. Are there other devices being affected by this "bug"? Anyone know if this is google side or HTC side?
Warell said:
Same problem here. Can´t get a location and the battery consumption is in the highs!
I had to freeze maps with Titanium Backup for now. Are there other devices being affected by this "bug"? Anyone know if this is google side or HTC side?
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Apparently also affecting the One, One S and even the EVO.
Some LG phones are also affected. Could be an issue between Google vs ROM settings.
My phone returned to normal after I disabled the 'Maps' apps. The downside is, I can't use Google Now, Google Maps and any apps thats related to those. Even Waze. Total bummer.
According to Android Central (http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...w-keeps-saying-my-location-service-off-2.html), the issue is the recent Google update caused some data folders i.e Network Locations to appear in user's 'Downloaded Apps' folder instead of the Android system.
Factory resetting wont help either -- most have the issue resurface after several hours of use.
Owh well, the issue turned my smartphone to a semi-smartphone.
I seem to not having this issue..
or that's just me that didn't realize it? -_-
although yea i must turn on GPS to be able to pinpoint my location
even if i want to update current location i need that stupud GPS to be on

Google Play Services, Location active - battery eater LG G3

Hi,
I've disabled my Location and Google Play Services battery consumption reduced.
I've noticed that every time when I unlocked the phone, the system tries to access GPS - I can see for 1 second the the location symbol appears in the notification toolbar.
Previously I owned a G2 and didn't have the issue, with G2 you unlock of the phone and G2 doesn't try to start GPS, the location symbol doesn't appear in the notification toolbar! simple and battery efficient. Not the case with G3. Don't know what stupidity they did or what they've modified.
I don't know if is a Lollipop issue or a bug in LG G3 software.
It is stupid and drains battery fast.
I want to keep the Location active because of geotagging photo information or for using googlemasps. But it is annoying to start manually the location when using this.
I hope there is a workaround to this issue.
Tks
I'm using
5.0
SW
V20f-226-01
only to my phone happens this? or is a global issue?
did anyone experience this issue or I'm the only one?
did someone see this until now?
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Not only that you must be root to use the application, but it is not ok in my opinion to have this functionality on the phone.
I get 2-3 days of full battery with location turned off!
With location turned on only 1 maybe 2 days!!! big difference !!!
Still my question remains...
Is this a bug in LG software or it happens only on my phone? and what's the workaround for this?
If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
Google playServices accesses GPS and drains battery
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If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
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With Location ON it can be seen in the Settings->General->Battery->Battery Usage , that GooglePlayServices eats up to 20% battery when location is on.(daily usage) and as I've said previously the GPS is accessed every time you unlock the phone and go to home screen. You can see it in the notification toolbar the symbol of the GPS is ON for 1 second. I think that is the reason why it eats up so much battery.
When Location is OFF the Goolge Play Services (that includes also the Location Manager) eats up only 4% battery consumption and you don't see the GPS active each time you unlock the phone
From this I figured it out that GooglePlayServices has a bug or the sofware phone has a bug.
Is this happen to others?
how location is working on your side?
Hello...
are you experiencing the same issue? or I'm the only one?
You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
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You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
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youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
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youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
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I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
fixed
gee2012 said:
I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
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I like the geo tag posision to use with the camera application so... I like the location to stay ON. the only bug that I had was it was accessing gps every time I unlock the screen.
Now works ok
service type name from GooglePlay
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Dow you know what is the name of the service?
I've disabled
LoctionWearableListnerService and
LocationHistoryInjectorService
and bug is fixed!
but after some time ... even with this services disabled ... the problem reappears.
It is like some other service is reEnable them again even though in DisableService they are off(red).
Does anyone know what's the service name that should be killed?
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
is not the weather widget
YaDr said:
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
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is this a service or the widget weather?
I've removed the widget from the screen. The same!
Even placed the location manually in the settings of the widget.
Is there other place that I should be looking?
After all it shouldn't be the widget weather app. It refreshes the location in 3h interval.
I've tried also with the ROM fresh installed, with no new app installed still the same. GPS pups up!
Really stupid!
Has anyone fixed this by now ?or at least identified the cause?
Problem SOLVED
Come on guys!
Just go And turn SmartLock (Google) OFF in trust agents in security settings
As easy as pie!
Playing around with DisableService, I've stopped other services that were in use by GooglePlay.
Android system pointed out that GooglePlay has an error and needs to be updated from PlayStore.
I've updated GooglePlay from PlayStore and I don't have this issue anymore!!!
I leave my location ON all the time, I don't have battery drain anymore!!!
I think is a bug in GooglePlay version application that the ROM is coming with.
As soon as you get(update) GooglePlay form playstore, the phone behaves normally.
This way worked for me.
@Mo3ein - I had already SmartLock OFF. It's not from SmartLock

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