Hey guys, i'm with a little trouble here. The update for Moto G7 Play to Android 10, it's a 32 bit os or 64 bit os? With the "new" directives of Google to only accept 64 apps in Store, there'll be some troubles with 32 bits os, right?
LoboOMaioral said:
Hey guys, i'm with a little trouble here. The update for Moto G7 Play to Android 10, it's a 32 bit os or 64 bit os? With the "new" directives of Google to only accept 64 apps in Store, there'll be some troubles with 32 bits os, right?
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* I'm running Android 10 right now. It is still 32bit. Motorola has never updated a device to 64bit, with the exception being, this one time that they accidentally made 64bit source code temporarily available for the Moto G5.
* The new directive from Google requires apps that were 32bit, to also provide a 64bit version now.
* Arm32 support isn't scheduled to be dropped until at least 2022.
Spaceminer said:
* I'm running Android 10 right now. It is still 32bit. Motorola has never updated a device to 64bit, with the exception being, this one time that they accidentally made 64bit source code temporarily available for the Moto G5.
* The new directive from Google requires apps that were 32bit, to also provide a 64bit version now.
* Arm32 support isn't scheduled to be dropped until at least 2022.
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Soooo, no 64bit OS for Play. Maybe in G7 or G7 power? And if it has 64bit OS for them, maybe an port for us?
"The new directive from Google requires apps that were 32bit, to also provide a 64bit version now." - I'm asking because i'm a Pokémon Go player, and Niantic will cease 32 bit version support in August. So, i'm screwed... Thank you for the info bro"
LoboOMaioral said:
Soooo, no 64bit OS for Play. Maybe in G7 or G7 power? And if it has 64bit OS for them, maybe an port for us?
"The new directive from Google requires apps that were 32bit, to also provide a 64bit version now." - I'm asking because i'm a Pokémon Go player, and Niantic will cease 32 bit version support in August. So, i'm screwed... Thank you for the info bro"
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Yep, that is correct. Aug. 2021 begins phase out of 32bit apps in the play store. 2022 drops it completely from source I believe. So after 2022 no more security updates for 32bit either.
The Moto G7, G7 Power, and G7 Plus all have a 64bit OS. If I could port from them, I would. The custom roms for those devices can be installed on the G7 Play, and they almost boot up, but we need a 64bit vendor to make it work. And I don't have the slightest clue how build it. If I could get someone to dump a raw vendor.img from either the G7 or G7 Power, it might be possible to just dd the image and make it work. We use the same chipset as those two.
There's probably like 5 people total on xda who can take an OS from 32bit to 64bit, and none of them have provided a tutorial, and none of them are interested in building for us either. It's unfortunate.
Spaceminer said:
Yep, that is correct. Aug. 2021 begins phase out of 32bit apps in the play store. 2022 drops it completely from source I believe. So after 2022 no more security updates for 32bit either.
The Moto G7, G7 Power, and G7 Plus all have a 64bit OS. If I could port from them, I would. The custom roms for those devices can be installed on the G7 Play, and they almost boot up, but we need a 64bit vendor to make it work. And I don't have the slightest clue how build it. If I could get someone to dump a raw vendor.img from either the G7 or G7 Power, it might be possible to just dd the image and make it work. We use the same chipset as those two.
There's probably like 5 people total on xda who can take an OS from 32bit to 64bit, and none of them have provided a tutorial, and none of them are interested in building for us either. It's unfortunate.
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Well, unfortunately we have to wait. Thank you for the info and for your patience! XD
LoboOMaioral said:
Soooo, no 64bit OS for Play. Maybe in G7 or G7 power? And if it has 64bit OS for them, maybe an port for us?
"The new directive from Google requires apps that were 32bit, to also provide a 64bit version now." - I'm asking because i'm a Pokémon Go player, and Niantic will cease 32 bit version support in August. So, i'm screwed... Thank you for the info bro"
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I read Niantic reversed that decision.
https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/73649/pokemon-go-will-stop-supporting-32-bit-android-phones/
digidad said:
I read Niantic reversed that decision.
https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/73649/pokemon-go-will-stop-supporting-32-bit-android-phones/
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Yep, for now! But when it happens, i'm screwed! Unless Motorola, or Android community release a 64 bit version... XD
Spaceminer said:
Yep, that is correct. Aug. 2021 begins phase out of 32bit apps in the play store. 2022 drops it completely from source I believe. So after 2022 no more security updates for 32bit either.
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32-bit apps will continue to exist. The requirement is to have all 64-bit for 64-bit devices (in other words, no 32-bit apps are allowed to exist without 64-bit equivalents, so 64-bit devices will no longer be under-served by 32-bit apps).
There are too many low-end phones out there to abandon 32-bit support, at least for most developers, including Google's own apps. Maybe support for 32-bit will end sometime around 2030, but not 2022.
Spaceminer said:
Yep, that is correct. Aug. 2021 begins phase out of 32bit apps in the play store. 2022 drops it completely from source I believe. So after 2022 no more security updates for 32bit either.
The Moto G7, G7 Power, and G7 Plus all have a 64bit OS. If I could port from them, I would. The custom roms for those devices can be installed on the G7 Play, and they almost boot up, but we need a 64bit vendor to make it work. And I don't have the slightest clue how build it. If I could get someone to dump a raw vendor.img from either the G7 or G7 Power, it might be possible to just dd the image and make it work. We use the same chipset as those two.
There's probably like 5 people total on xda who can take an OS from 32bit to 64bit, and none of them have provided a tutorial, and none of them are interested in building for us either. It's unfortunate.
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postmarketOS on g7 play is aarch64 btw
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Motorola_Moto_G7_Play_(motorola-channel)
Has anyone been able to permanently install TWRP and root to a Q stock rom? I am currently using the new update XT1952-6_CHANNEL_T_MPCS_10_QPY30.85-18 downloaded from the lollinet servers. By the way, I recommend it for the xt1952-6 variant.
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As the dawn of 64-bit processors are on the horizon, how long till our chipset dies?
I'm amazed on how I can run Android Nougat 7.1.2 despite Qualcomm stopped releasing drivers for the chipset (as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong). When Android O comes out, will we ever get a full taste on it?
System_Dilemma said:
As the dawn of 64-bit processors are on the horizon, how long till our chipset dies?
I'm amazed on how I can run Android Nougat 7.1.2 despite Qualcomm stopped releasing drivers for the chipset (as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong). When Android O comes out, will we ever get a full taste on it?
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We can not say right now but as you observed that we came from jb to nougat and we might see android o if our devs stays strong and still uses armani without the device they can't do anything as they have to test many things to do for initial bring up of android o lineage/aosp builds
We now have Nougat check unofficial build by HemantBeast.
Deadpool_01 said:
We now have Nougat check unofficial build by HemantBeast.
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Eagerly waiting for it. ?
I have a ques.
How are 8.1 vendor files different from 9.0 vendor files? I mean vendor partition should suppose to have hardware related files from the vendor( like bluetooth, audio etc) , so they should be same irrespective of the android version, coz hardware is same, i suppose.
And if they are different, then whats the use of this whole treble thing when you still need an updated vendor partition from your manufacturer and you are stuck with old android version only. Sorry if I am missing something.
i am not sure if this is correct but i believe 8.x treble was sort of beta test and any phone launching with android 9.0 has proper treble support
Any how the vendor partition does need to be updated the better suite the newer OS, but not necessary, what android is trying to achieve is have the same kind of upgrade-ability as a windows computer, you can update from win 7 to win 10, all drives may or may not work and if the fail there are basic driver implementation in place
if there is a decent support from OEMs they can update their vendor partitions(or open-source them)for 5 years or more if they want to while developer communities or hopefully google themselves in the future can release android version globally somewhat usable.
this will greatly help ex-flagships last longer, budget phones unlike budget laptops will still die out as they dont feature removable ram and storage.
So I'll start this off by saying I haven't used the official version of Pie, due to having an unlocked bootloader, and can't find a download so I can install manually. But here's my question:
I know the G6 Play supports 64-Bit, so are any of the Pie ROMs available on this phone 64-Bit? I'm currently using the Descendant GSI, and its 32. I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a 64-Bit version of Pie, if one even exists.
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So I'll start this off by saying I haven't used the official version of Pie, due to having an unlocked bootloader, and can't find a download so I can install manually. But here's my question:
I know the G6 Play supports 64-Bit, so are any of the Pie ROMs available on this phone 64-Bit? I'm currently using the Descendant GSI, and its 32. I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a 64-Bit version of Pie, if one even exists.
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There is no 64bit rom available unfortunately. It would require someone building a rom specifically for our device compared to a gsi image. One can exist if someone decides to build a rom that is able to use the 64bit architecture but that alone would be a hassle not including already building one for the device in general. before this device got it's own forum this question was asked and answered way better than I can answer it lol
there's no relations between having an unlocked bootloader and not updating to pie, just as a note. as long as your phone is on stock stat, with no modifications, just go and upgrade.
I have Motorola Moto G7 Play XT1952-1 version
I discover my device have 32bit os version.
Stock 9.0 and 64bit ARMv8-A CPU.
I cant install cintra and Dolphin newest version.
Is there any chance to reflash stock moto g7 play dual 64bit rom?
All Moto G7 Play stock ROMs, including the stock ROM for the 3GB model, are 32bit. You will have to go the custom ROM route to get 64bit.
xtermmin said:
All Moto G7 Play stock ROMs, including the stock ROM for the 3GB model, are 32bit. You will have to go the custom ROM route to get 64bit.
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Then i need to wait for any stable custom rom. Or sell this device and buy Moto G7 Power
Morricorne said:
Then i need to wait for any stable custom rom. Or sell this device and buy Moto G7 Power
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Likelihood of a 64-bit ROM coming to this device is slim to none. Simply does not attract developer attention given modest specs (which another reason 64 bit makes little sense).
My moto g 5g is working awfully, it has a lot of lags, sometimes during some seconds, and i don't know the reason... I think that android 11 is poorly optimized for it. Any notice about android 12 availability? I read on some webs that this smartphone will be upgraded with the 12th.
fcuevas40 said:
My moto g 5g is working awfully, it has a lot of lags, sometimes during some seconds, and i don't know the reason... I think that android 11 is poorly optimized for it. Any notice about android 12 availability? I read on some webs that this smartphone will be upgraded with the 12th.
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Motorola doesn't offer reliable eta on updates, sometimes there are rumors of soak tests, but that's about it.
have you tried reflashing the firmware or a factory reset since the Android 11 upgrade?
I would use LMSA's flash rescue, but it will factory reset the device when it flashes the firmware.
Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA)(Motorola/Lenovo Only)
Rescue and Smart Assistant LMSA: Lenovo's Motorola Smart Assistant (PC) For Lenovo and Motorola Devices Only Rescue and Smart Assistant (LMSA) is an official tool installs on PC. Can help to manage smart device (include all Lenovo android phone...
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My (currently stock) handset is offering me A12 GSIs (one each with and without GMS) via the DSU mechanism - but neither seem to install after downloading...
giociampa said:
My (currently stock) handset is offering me A12 GSIs (one each with and without GMS) via the DSU mechanism - but neither seem to install after downloading...
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I installed it yesterday, you need to unlock the bootloader. The gsi+gsm rom is really barebone tho.
For lag i can suggest removing the blur effect from systemui from developer options.
am wondering that to if we will get the android 12 rn i only read phew articles that yes we get it and but androidplanet says no
wesleyvanneck12345678 said:
am wondering that to if we will get the android 12 rn i only read phew articles that yes we get it and but androidplanet says no
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Oh, no we won't, only one major release from motorola, budget cuts i guess. We started from 10 and got 11 nothing more (except security updates). I hope this will revive modding for these phones tho. I would love an android 12 pixel experience
Tommy0000 said:
Oh, no we won't, only one major release from motorola, budget cuts i guess. We started from 10 and got 11 nothing more (except security updates). I hope this will revive modding for these phones tho. I would love an android 12 pixel experience
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it depends as https://fossbytes.com/motorola-device-android-12-update-list/ this says yes and its not a budget phone its in mide class so we get 2 updates says fosbyte
wesleyvanneck12345678 said:
it depends as https://fossbytes.com/motorola-device-android-12-update-list/ this says yes and its not a budget phone its in mide class so we get 2 updates says fosbyte
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I hope so then
wesleyvanneck12345678 said:
it depends as https://fossbytes.com/motorola-device-android-12-update-list/ this says yes and its not a budget phone its in mide class so we get 2 updates says fosbyte
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"Bear in mind that this is not the official list. Motorola is yet to confirm if the above devices will be receiving the Android 12 update."
If you are interested i created a guide on how to install (and fix post install problems) on the Pixel Experience GSI Android 12 for nairo and other phones
HERE