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Im in doubt between Moto X Pure and LG G4.
They both have the same price in my country.
Really like the frontal speakers and the pure Android with moto apps, but the screen quality and the replaceable battery are very useful.
Id like an opinion from someone who had these two gadgets.
I'm looking for a phone for my father and need to narrow it down
Priorities (in order):
Fast
Battery
Good and simple(not in the way) software
reliable manufacturer, customer support, and warranty
Camera
Don't really care about:
Rootablity / devs
Build needs to be solid and decent, but doesn't have to be too "premium"
I'm probably also going to get my dad this phone just because of the battery life. I doubt performance will be an issue with the Moto Z Play tbh.
Just got the phone and I'm quite impressed with its speed (comming from a Moto Maxx, Droid turbo but unlocked international version) Battery life has been amazing, right now im at 70% with 2h 41m SoT and 2 hours of strava (been on for 13 hours)
Camera is WAY faster and in my opinion better (at least focus wise) than my Moto Maxx.
Cant complain about anything.
Performance wont be as good as one plus 3 because moto z play uses a 625 chip wich is a mid ranger chipset
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this battery is awesome.. best battery life in world
StreetkillnHD said:
Performance wont be as good as one plus 3 because moto z play uses a 625 chip wich is a mid ranger chipset
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U can't notice any difference in performance between these two ..i used both device ..& i can say z play run any app & game buttery smooth.. 0 lag
Want build quality than go for moto always
I've just got a z play as a work phone,and it was between it and the OP3
In the end the massive battery life won it for me, and tbh, compared to my Pixel xl, the speed difference is hardly noticeable in day to day use
Its certainly as fast as my colleagues OP3 that's for sure
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tejasm1 said:
I'm looking for a phone for my father and need to narrow it down
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The replies here are naturally biased towards the Moto Z Play. But since I had the same decision to make, tried both devices and ended up with the Moto Z Play, here is my feedback:
Priorities (in order):
Fast
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The OP3 is faster on paper and will beat the Moto Z play in just about any benchmark. If you're looking into 60fps gaming at ultra high settings over the next years, your search has to end here: the OP3 wins.
That said, the Snapdragon 625 is an amazing SoC and the Moto Z Play is not only blazing fast, it stays cool under just about all conditions. It's fast, really fast and never throttles. Most reviews will tell you that during regular use, any difference in speed to the current SD 820/821 flagships is almost imperceptible and they are absolutely right. So if day-to-day performance is a something you worry about: don't. Both phones master just about every smartphone task without breaking a sweat. The Moto Z Play is absolutely buttery smooth - always. It's also a perfectly capable gaming machine and there is no current game it can't play, but it will dip below 60fps if you crank up the details on the most demanding titles.
Battery
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No competition, the Moto Z Play is a battery monster - maybe the best on the market right now. It is effectively impossible to drain it in a single day of use. It will completely change the way you think about battery life and charging habits - it's an incredibly relaxing experience because battery life becomes a total non-issue with this phone. Do whatever you want with the phone all day and hook it up at night or quickly in the morning and you'll be good. Forgot to charge it one night? Not a problem, you'll still make it through the next day.
The OP3's battery life is fine, pretty much like any other flagship phone these days. You'll make it through the day most days but probably have to top it off once or twice on particularly demanding days. Luckily that's easily done via dash charge - it charges faster than just about any other phone.
Good and simple(not in the way) software
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Both are great and offer a stock-like experience. Moto is closer to stock Android, uses Google apps just about everywhere and offers the better, hardware-aided features. It's a Nexus-like experience with some very well thought out enhancements. Moto Display is to this day the best implementation of an ambient display by a wide margin. The worst thing about it: once you get used to it, it's really hard to ever go back to a non-Moto device - it's that great.
reliable manufacturer, customer support, and warranty
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Both devices offer excellent build quality, with the Moto Z Play having less known issues and a (historically) better quality assurance. But it hasn't been out long enough to say this for certain.
Both manufacturers offer terrible customer service if something goes wrong. OnePlus may be a little worse, but that's debatable and things may have even turned. Don't expect a great experience if you need to make use of the warranty.
Camera
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Both offer good cameras, but they can't compete with current flagships. They take excellent pictures under good conditions and suffer under low light. The OP3's camera is slightly better but not by much.
The things you'll get with the OP3: better, theoretically more future proof specs.
The things you'll get with the Moto Z Play: "Never even think about it again" battery life, Moto Display, Moto Gestures, Moto Mods, Moto Voice (all brilliant hardware features that can't be replicated by software on the OP3), expandable storage.
The One Plus 3 is better on paper but Moto Z Play will offer likely the same real-world performance which MUCH better battery life.
I'm glad I got this bad boy today. Returned that crappy V20 I had and got the droid force edition. Bigger battery and better camera. So far so good. Mine even came with the Incipio extended battery moto mod.
I had the OP3 and this seems better so far. Runs just as fast with ZERO LAG. Motorola did good with this device.
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Can anyone comment on the screen brightness outdoors for the OP3 and Moto z play?
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Can anyone comment on the screen brightness outdoors for the OP3 and Moto z play?
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Maximum brightness for both is similar, the OnePlus 3 is slightly brighter. Neither AMOLED display is as bright as your typical IPS display but outdoor brightness hasn't been a real issue for me with either one.
If outside brightness is truly important to you, look into phones with IPS panels.
Fellow Moto Z Play users.
I'm an owner of g3, thats looping in the boot....
I dont trust lg anymore.... G2 screen burns, g3 cracked cases and heat related issue, g4 bootloop and g5 ghosting burn ins
So i today i'm ordering my phone. I want to make sure device wont get defects... Lg g5 with us warrsnty is 400usd.
Moto z play is 450USD.
Lg g5 is cheaper, yet has a better camera and better cpu gpu.
Moto z play has a better batterylife,britgher screen, lower performance, better perceived quality by me(we had 2 of moto g, both didnt have any issues).
How good pr bad the moto play z cam?
Is it bad in bad light. PLEASE help me. I dont want to go over 400 usd. I would buy axon 7 but the cam made me like no.
But if axon 7 and moto play z has the same cam or similar performancr. I will go with zte axon 7. For the performance and design also qhd display and priced 350 usd
I have had zero issues with low light pics taken with my z, and I've had some very good phones in the past (Sammy, HTC). The low light pics can be a bit grainy, and that's where the z play does struggle, but honestly it isn't as big of a deal as some reviews have stated.
Personally having slightly less sharp low light pics, which is rare, is a small trade off to the awesome battery and moto ui. I just got sick of charging my phone 2-3 times a day, and having high end specs meant less and less to me. This phone is a beast all around, it'll be hard to eventually replace it
I am coming from a Note 4 the camera of the Z play is better. It misses only the OIS. But this helps only for free hand low light images. LG may be slightly better in low light because of the better aperture and the OIS. But it won't be that big difference as all the reviews let you think. I would not expect any differences in daylight.
My friend has a G5 and wants my Z play.
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But if axon 7 and moto play z has the same cam or similar performancr. I will go with zte axon 7. For the performance and design also qhd display and priced 350 usd
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The Axon 7's camera is better than the Z Play's - at least on paper - not by much, but OIS may help it win the upper hand. Both are capable of excellent, current flagship quality daylight shots. The Z Play has better post processing and overall the better software and I personally prefer the Z Play's daylight shots, but both are good - neither is great in low light, the Z Play creates more blurry pictures more frequently due to lack of OIS, the Axon 7 has OIS but worse software and post-processing and creates more over- or underexposed pictures. Since bad exposure ruins pictures less than blurriness, I'd say it wins the duel but only by a hair.
While the Moto Z Play has an excellent, loud and crisp front facing mono speaker and generally great audio quality, the Axon 7 blows it and just about any other phone out of the water with its front facing, Dolby ATMOS enabled speakers.
In many other ways, the Axon 7 is superior to the Z Play only on paper. The SD 820 is faster on paper, but runs hotter and is much more power hunger than the Z Play's SD 625 - the real life performance difference between the two is almost imperceptible in everything but VR and hardcore 3D gaming.
Battery life is no contest, with the Axon 7 being pretty average and the Z Play essentially defining a new standard and effectively lasting twice as long.
Both have excellent displays, with the Axon 7's QHD mostly shining when it comes to VR, but again, difference during regular use is mostly negligible.
Where it all falls down is software and reliability. The software experience on the Z Play is nearly perfect, with an incredibly stable, smooth and near stock experience enhanced only by actually worthwhile features. It also comes with absolutely superior reception, be that WiFi, mobile, GPS or even bluetooth. It's always fast, never overheats and is as reliable as a phone can possibly be. It also comes with relatively fast Android updates and long software support.
ZTE's phone comes with a questionable at best custom UI, crippled stock features, buggy software, an insane amount of bloat and ZTE has a history of abandoning software support for their phones almost instantly, even for their former flagships. The Axon 7 is better than anything they have made before so this may change, but I personally wouldn't rely on that "maybe".
Honestly, ZTE's software overall software experience should be prohibitive at this point. Get a OnePlus 3T instead or, well, get the Z Play - an utterly brilliant phone in everything but overall camera performance (where it is merely good but not great).
If camera trumps all, go for the G5, but you should already be aware of LG's build quality issues - that hasn't changed with the G5 by most accounts.
Did anyone compare the cameras of Moto Z2 Play and Moto Z (not "Z play" but "Z")?
I know Z2 Play has slightly better aperture and Z has optical stabilization. But what about how does this affect real shots?
Maybe someone has owned both and can share own view/opinion?
Many thanks!
I own both. I think the Z takes better pictures. I can post sample shots later if you want.
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I can post sample shots later if you want.
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Yes, please. I'll be appreciated if you can make low-light sample shots.
Thank you.
Not what you are looking for but I've had the z play and Z2 play. The z play camera sucked like most Moto cameras. The Z2 play is pretty decent. Still nowhere as good as an average LG or Galaxy phone but about like an HTC camera
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Not what you are looking for but I've had the z play and Z2 play. The z play camera sucked like most Moto cameras. The Z2 play is pretty decent. Still nowhere as good as an average LG or Galaxy phone but about like an HTC camera
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I have had both Motorola and LG phones. My moto x style shot better video that almost any LG and the pictures are really good too. The only think that really suck is the lack of camera2api support, like and old 2003 phone.
I think when the cameras start getting under f2.0, the low light ability really improves. Although Moto Cameras have done ok under normal shooting, I found they fell apart really quickly in lower light. It's about time they improve that on the newer models. Truly I think Motorola, except for the camera, builds the best quality hardware. Only Blackberry built tougher stuff. I've seen Moto phones run over by trucks and slammed in doors and still work fine. LG phones tend to have bad boards, Samsung bad memory chips (ironic) and HTCs were often made from weak plastic parts. Just a general observation. There are exceptions everywhere. LG had those wonderful Sony image sensors.
Hellou,
I need your opinion guys. Here in Germany the G6 is 310 euros and the V30 - 500 euros. And i cant decide which one to get. Are those 200 euros more worth it ?
For me is the wide angle camera and the battery realy important. Is there a noticable difference? The V30 is kinda big for my hands.
Also looking for a phone that will stick with me for 2 years...
What will you suggest me to get?
Thanks! :good:
kris234 said:
For me is the wide angle camera and the battery realy important. Is there a noticable difference? The V30 is kinda big for my hands.
Also looking for a phone that will stick with me for 2 years...
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I had a G6. Now I have a V30.
I got used to the bigger size fast. V30 is taller and wider, but thinner than G6.
Much better battery with the V30. Both have same 3300mah battery size, but V30 has more efficient processor.
V30 wide angle camera has less distortion (fish eye effect). G6 is very noticable.
G6 processor is 2 generations old, while V30 is only 1 generation old.
V30 will probably get Android P update in 2019, but not sure about G6.
Up to you to decide if the price difference is worth it.
kris234 said:
Hellou,
I need your opinion guys. Here in Germany the G6 is 310 euros and the V30 - 500 euros. And i cant decide which one to get. Are those 200 euros more worth it ?
For me is the wide angle camera and the battery realy important. Is there a noticable difference? The V30 is kinda big for my hands.
Also looking for a phone that will stick with me for 2 years...
What will you suggest me to get?
Thanks! :good:
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LG V30/V30+ is what the LG G6 should have been.
Quad DAC
Qi wireless charging
64/128 GB storage
G6 only has some of those, in regionalized specs. V30/V30+ has all variants.
Plus, V30 has 2017 Snapdragon 835 while the G6 has 2016 Snapdragon 821.
Most G6 only had 32GB (yes, some had 64GB), while all V30 have at least 64 and I own three that have 128GB storage.
Point is the V30 is a vastly improved G6.
If you plan to use it in the next 2 years, get the V30+ - at least you'll get the 128GB of storage. I'm currently using G6 dual sim with QuadDAC, which is a great phone, especially after Oreo update - smooth and has almost all of the features of V30. I'm also considering buing the V30+ as it has all the good LG stuff - wide angle, double tap to wake/lock, fluid UI and so on. But you'll get this as well with the G6 Dual Sim - wide camera is wider, the pictures with the main camera are a little sharper compared to the V30, you'll get the QuadDAC. So if you are OK with the price, I suggest go for the V30/V30+.
Try ebay refurb V30 is less then $300 and G6 is around $150. Also once you go wireless charging it is hard to go back
good advice
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Try ebay refurb V30 is less then $300 and G6 is around $150. Also once you go wireless charging it is hard to go back
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Exactly right.
I haven't bought a phone since 2013 that didn't have Qi wireless charging. It's one of my "line in the sand" features. If it doesn't have Qi wireless, I'm not even considering it.
Also, yes -- you can get mint LS998 V30+ for $320 on eBay. That's about 275 Euro. Much better than 500 Euros and the two mint V30+ I bought and converted to US998 were basically like new.
@kris234: I don't have firsthand experience with G6, but in addition to the differences listed by others, I believe it's LCD whereas the V30 is OLED.
Some early V30 units apparently had poor displays, and I've seen some overly negative reviews on that account. But both my wife's and my V30s (Sep and Oct productions, respectively) have pretty great screens, far beyond any LCD screen I've seen.
Is there any noticable differnce between V30 and the V30+ ?
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Is there any noticable differnce between V30 and the V30+ ?
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Yes, the storage size
V30 = 64GB
V30+ = 128GB
thats it
V30 (all range) is using a 10bit camera sensor, capable of capturing 1.07 billion colors.
Yes i think you guys helped me decide. I think i will get the V30 new one for 475 Euros becouse those refurbished Products i dont trust them very much. Thanks!
kris234 said:
Yes i think you guys helped me decide. I think i will get the V30 new one for 475 Euros becouse those refurbished Products i dont trust them very much. Thanks!
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For that amount of money you should really be looking at V35 or G7
Definitely the V30 as it is what the G6 should had been as mentioned earlier in this thread.
-Better battery life
-Better camera quality
-Better screen (I hold it higher than the Note 8 screen even)
-Better sound with the DAC
-Better wide angle camera (distortion and sharpness)
Since there are many good offers for V30, I will be getting the G7 for around 500 euros