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Hi I had a Zuk Z2 and it was a good phone, in fact, the best phone value out there but unfortunately it has gone and im using a old Xiaomi Redmi 2.
I was looking to buy a new phone and found a interested sale promotion on Mi5S (3GB/64GB) Gearbest, it is 217.00EU which i consider cheaper for this model.
In other hand, i dont like MIUI ROM, its outdated take too much Ram and have bad battery life also i didnt see a lot of life on development tabs which brings to me a question.
Take all of this in consideration, would you recommend to buy it?
I personally love the device, so, yes for me.
Coming from Galaxy Note 4 and Redmi Note 3, this phone is a huge upgrade (aside the screen that is downgrade from Note 4).
And though many (bad things) has been said about the FP, I love the FP sensor as well as it can detect even when my fingers are wet / slightly moist (I live in tropical country) unlike Redmi Note 3 which will require me to wipe my fingers dry first.
MIUI is not bad, especially if you use Xiaomi EU rom for example. The features are massive and most of them offers quality of life improvement. To each their own of course however.
With something like the Nova Launcher, I like the Mi5S, though audio quality through the 3,5" isn't the best and multitasking is limited to a handful of apps. But speed and build quality are very good. Also the battery life is quite good with the latest firmware and you have an incredible quick fastcharge function on it. Or you can wait until the FP works good on LineageOS, but I can't really tell how long that will take.
You can also consider the likes of Motorola (good software, but average battery life) and maybe something from LeEco with LineageOS installed on it. You can also find midrange Sony phones for a reasonable price nowadays, for instance the Xperia X Compact (low res screen, but good phone nonetheless). Also Honor makes good phones. The UMI Z is also worth the look with recent prices, although I don't know about battery life.
If battery life is the most important thing, than buy the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro. You get a solid week of usage per charge and the build quality is superb in the price class. Also, the Snapdragon 625 is more than fast enough for everything but gaming. Plus it's just over a 100 dollars when discounted.
/EDIT: The LG G5 is heavily discounted in the US at the moment: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/21/deal-alert-get-unlocked-lg-g5-259-newegg/
Coming from the redmi 2 wt88047, I find that the MI5s is much better but battery life is not that much better. Everything is an improvement compared to the redmi 2 but the battery life is pretty much the same.
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/EDIT: The LG G5 is heavily discounted in the US at the moment: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/21/deal-alert-get-unlocked-lg-g5-259-newegg/
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LG G5 have random reboots, and it can appear after your purchase. Phones on SD625 are really useless today ( if you want a phone for 2-3 years ). Sony is very expensive for their quality and software support. Mediatek phones are very hot.
My mom has a Redmi 4 Pro and it's very fast, way more than the 617 my girlfriends phone has. So I really don't see a problem with this chipset.
But I don't know about the G5 though. Is it really still the case after all the patches? Would be idiotic, but I have seen worst in the phone industry.
I'm very happy with this phone. I'm a very casual user, no modding, nothing. All that I need works very nice, running latest official global rom.
Thanks to all, I made my choice, I choose OnePlus 5 ???.
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How I don't have enough money I bought a Mi5s (3Gb/64gb) from gear best hope I'll be very happy with this phone ?
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Hey guys, just cracked the hell out of my note 20 screen and looking to switch phones to either the 9 pro or the Google pixel I know this might be a bias forum to post one xD but I despise Samsung because they make it so hard to root and the things you do with it are extremely limited just wondering how the 9 pro is if it's easy to root, a good phone etc etc how close it is to the newer one coming out and if I should wait or not I appreciate any input ^_^
It is the easiest phone to root at the market. Go for it. It's worth it.
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Hey guys, just cracked the hell out of my note 20 screen and looking to switch phones to either the 9 pro or the Google pixel I know this might be a bias forum to post one xD but I despise Samsung because they make it so hard to root and the things you do with it are extremely limited just wondering how the 9 pro is if it's easy to root, a good phone etc etc how close it is to the newer one coming out and if I should wait or not I appreciate any input ^_^
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New one coming out. Nord 2 is low end price point phones.
Buy 9 pro. Is an awesome phone. Root, updates, soon open beta's.
Les to none Bloatware. Samsung is full of it.
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Buy 9 pro. Is an awesome phone. Root, updates, soon open beta's.
Les to none Bloatware. Samsung is full of it.
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i am also looking to buy new phone but... i read it has a lot of over heating.. issues
currently i have 7 Pro
Great device my 9 Pro, easy to root, no overheating, fast, etc...
Take it for a spin...
I love my 9 Pro. It does get "warm" sometimes and my 6T never did. It doesn't seem to affect the phone in anyway. I think it's a good phone.
Anyone know if the tmobile/sprint version of it will be anymore locked down or hard to root?
I have a new OP9Pro , un rooted. I have significant overheating issues and I live in the Northeast USA. Example:
Spent 2 hours in the 70-80 degree sun yesterday. Phone went into overheat mode like 30 times. Had no choice. Thinking of just buying another OP7Pro TBH, I still miss the Moment case with the leather strap! (I also still have some cam add-ons). Anyhow, maybe rooting makes all the difference, but this is just really sad. the phone is just too thin IMO... :|
Yes because you need to Sim unlock the phone before rooting and meet all the requirements, plus you need to apply for an unlock token.
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i am also looking to buy new phone but... i read it has a lot of over heating.. issues
currently i have 7 Pro
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I never had heat issue with 7 pro. But i am not a heavy user.
8 pro does not heat up not even charging wireless. Wireless charger have ventilation.
Decide what phone is best for you. You da Boss!
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I never had heat issue with 7 pro. But i am not a heavy user.
8 pro does not heat up not even charging wireless. Wireless charger have ventilation.
Decide what phone is best for you. You da Boss!
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I know 7Pro does not have i was taking about the 9pro
whats the firmware version which is latest for INDIAN Variant 9 Pro
i will buy this and was preparing the files that i needed to root etc
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro,, it has 8GB ram and Octa core processor in extremely low price!!!
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I have a new OP9Pro , un rooted. I have significant overheating issues and I live in the Northeast USA. Example:
Spent 2 hours in the 70-80 degree sun yesterday. Phone went into overheat mode like 30 times. Had no choice. Thinking of just buying another OP7Pro TBH, I still miss the Moment case with the leather strap! (I also still have some cam add-ons). Anyhow, maybe rooting makes all the difference, but this is just really sad. the phone is just too thin IMO... :|
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70 to 80 degrees heat is the worst thing you can do to a battery. When the device goes into overheat mode, I think that's a good advancement to protect the device from heat. Such high temperatures significantly shorten the battery life.
For me, this is not an argument against the Oneplus 9 pro. Unless I have misunderstood something....
Regarding the heating issue: I never had it, but I am also not a heavy user. With a custom kernel (e.g. Omega), the issue is off the table anyway. System updates should also improve this, but the latter is just a guess.
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Hey guys, just cracked the hell out of my note 20 screen and looking to switch phones to either the 9 pro or the Google pixel I know this might be a bias forum to post one xD but I despise Samsung because they make it so hard to root and the things you do with it are extremely limited just wondering how the 9 pro is if it's easy to root, a good phone etc etc how close it is to the newer one coming out and if I should wait or not I appreciate any input ^_^
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If root is the most important point, then go for it. Alternatively, maybe Xiaomi, although I don't really know how easy these devices can be rooted. Just have a look at the corresponding forums.
From my point of view, it is still unclear whether the Magisk project will be continued in the long term, which could possibly be an issue with Android 12.
The Oneplus 9 pro is a very good all-rounder, clearly a flagship. However, there are now interesting competitors in terms of price/performance, especially if you can do without root.
Samsung is not bad either. I mean, all the junk that Samsung offers can simply be debloated.
After using Oneplus for many years and a short break with a Huawei P40 pro, I have returned to Oneplus. I have to say, apart from Huawei's story, I was very positively surprised by the phone.
Nevertheless, Oneplus is the only alternative for me. Root and the complete package. Maybe a bit overpriced compared to the competition, but price stability and good resale value when it comes down to it.
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Yes because you need to Sim unlock the phone before rooting and meet all the requirements, plus you need to apply for an unlock token.
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I'm going to buy the phone in full so I should have it unlocked by default, but would that effect my ability to root it? And how hard is it to get that stuff?
Do you need very good battery life and best photos possible? Cause if you do, then I would recommend buying pixel. My wife's pixel 4a 5g lasts 3 days with 8-10h of sot with tons of apps (including social) running in background.
Photos are great too.
If you are more into quick charging and about 1,5 days battery life with 4-6h sot, and very good but not best photos, then op 9 pro is for you.
Op beats pixel in game and overall performance. It has more premium feel. But during everyday use in case it is not that obvious.
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70 to 80 degrees heat is the worst thing you can do to a battery. When the device goes into overheat mode, I think that's a good advancement to protect the device from heat. Such high temperatures significantly shorten the battery life.
For me, this is not an argument against the Oneplus 9 pro. Unless I have misunderstood something....
Regarding the heating issue: I never had it, but I am also not a heavy user. With a custom kernel (e.g. Omega), the issue is off the table anyway. System updates should also improve this, but the latter is just a guess.
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Right, but my old OP7Pro never had any issues with overheating... like... Never... :| I just thought it it kinda sucks - even on the dash of my car it overheats just from the sun in like 10 minutes... The 7 never did that either. :| Maybe I'm just whiny, but I only bought this 9Pro because my 7pro was recently smashed on both sides.
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70 to 80 degrees heat is the worst thing you can do to a battery. When the device goes into overheat mode, I think that's a good advancement to protect the device from heat. Such high temperatures significantly shorten the battery life.
For me, this is not an argument against the Oneplus 9 pro. Unless I have misunderstood something....
Regarding the heating issue: I never had it, but I am also not a heavy user. With a custom kernel (e.g. Omega), the issue is off the table anyway. System updates should also improve this, but the latter is just a guess.
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He's talking 70-80 farenheit, not celcius. That's 21-26c for you.
my first phone was the oneplus 5t, 6t, 7 pro today the 9 pro I like oneplus unlocked phones, no carrier bloatware easy to
use, easy to setup and lot of great features
Hey guys, I am going to buy a new phone and finally upgrade from my OnePlus 5t. I did a lot of research and I am between the phones of the title. It seems like the 9 Pro has muuuch more support and recognition in here so it will probably be easier to do this like custom roms, recoveris, kernels etc. But I also saw that the screen Is not top tier but more something like the 8 Pro(brightness wise) while other flagships are on another level. Also, DXOMark(not the best site, I know) testing showed that the OP 9 Pro has the worst HDR in movies. It seems almost as if it doesn't have HDR. Can you please tell me your opinions and help me decide?
MIUI sucks, too many bugs and very unstable
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MIUI sucks, too many bugs and very unstable
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I don't think the original firmware is going to be "unstable" is it? And if yes, I still feel uneasy about the fact that OP 9 Pro HDR looks ****... Of course I love OxygenOS (even if OnePlus does some stupid things from time to time) but at the same time I want a full Flagship and not another "just the latest CPU" smartphone..
I think is a matter of opinion you will get a lot of love/ hate relationship from users with the op9pro. I had the mi9 for about 2 years ( I know is not mi 11 ultra) until I upgraded to 9pro. Miui was fine didn't have many problems with it until they start pushing ads in system apps and that was a no no for me. Is the op9 perfect? Not really. Is oos perfect? Again not really. If your an enthusiast and wanna mess with ROMs, kernels etc go for the 9pro, is a good phone ,decent cameras, good battery life.... for me anyway..the HDR thing don't know about it not something I'd be interested in. As for the mi11 ultra can't comment on it never used one & reviews online are hit and miss as with every phone. So if you want HDR go with mi11 if you want to customise go with the 9pro . There both good phones with similar specs just the OS & support makes the difference
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I think is a matter of opinion you will get a lot of love/ hate relationship from users with the op9pro. I had the mi9 for about 2 years ( I know is not mi 11 ultra) until I upgraded to 9pro. Miui was fine didn't have many problems with it until they start pushing ads in system apps and that was a no no for me. Is the op9 perfect? Not really. Is oos perfect? Again not really. If your an enthusiast and wanna mess with ROMs, kernels etc go for the 9pro, is a good phone ,decent cameras, good battery life.... for me anyway..the HDR thing don't know about it not something I'd be interested in. As for the mi11 ultra can't comment on it never used one & reviews online are hit and miss as with every phone. So if you want HDR go with mi11 if you want to customise go with the 9pro . There both good phones with similar specs just the OS & support makes the difference
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Thank you for the nice reply. I am thinking it a lot because I am the type who keeps a phone for a long time(or I try to) so I can't mess it up. After a lot of searching, I may also go with the OP 8t because 2 friends have it and it is pretty good. I also think that if I go to the 8t I won't miss a lot of things so yeah, I'll have to decide based on what I want to do more
The screen (1 billion colors) is one of the best in the world on OP9 pro & s21 Ultra (on release date).
11 ultra is heavyer. Much heavyer. You will feel the extra weight in youre pocket. And bigger.
11 ultra is Much expenssive.
Fast charging is Great on OnePlus. Wired and wireless. On 11 ultra real charging is not as they claim.
Oxygen is not as clean & awesome as it was. Google mess it up. But from what i know better than miui.
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The screen (1 billion colors) is one of the best in the world on OP9 pro & s21 Ultra (on release date).
11 ultra is heavyer. Much heavyer. You will feel the extra weight in youre pocket. And bigger.
11 ultra is Much expenssive.
Fast charging is Great on OnePlus. Wired and wireless. On 11 ultra real charging is not as they claim.
Oxygen is not as clean & awesome as it was. Google mess it up. But from what i know better than miui.
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I am a OP fan and been using OP for years, just for a change and experience, this time I went with Xiaomi.
Allow me to comment on your comment (sorry for the caps, was doing it before finding colour change):
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The screen (1 billion colors) is one of the best in the world on OP9 pro & s21 Ultra (on release date). ( SOMEWHAT AGREE)
11 ultra is heavyer. Much heavyer. You will feel the extra weight in youre pocket. And bigger. (TOTALLY DISAGREE, UNLES YOU TEST IT FOR ONLY 1 HOUR).
11 ultra is Much expenssive. (COMPLETELY DISAGREE, I GOT MY MI11U FOR CHEAPER THAN 9PRO, BUT MONEY WAS NOT THE CASE FOR ME).
Fast charging is Great on OnePlus. Wired and wireless. On 11 ultra real charging is not as they claim. (COMPLETELY DISAGREE, I TEST IT EVERYDAY FOR THE PAST 4 MONTHS!!!)
Oxygen is not as clean & awesome as it was. Google mess it up. But from what i know better than miui. (OXYGEN IS BEST OS EVER USED, BUT WITH LOTS AND LOTS AND LOOOOTS OF MINOR BUGS THAT NEVER GETS RESOLVED. MIUI A BIT ANNOYING UNLESS YOU REMOVE BLOATWARE WITH ADB) in addition to all that, MIUI software update is not perfect. and with the last update, i am having a really good battery management and really good smoothness. bug are minimum which really shocks me. after 3 or 4 months of use, i started to like MIUI, but still prefer Oxygen.
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after 3 months of experience with MI 11 ultra, I totally disagree with your comments, especially after 12.5 update. I find it less bugs than Oxygen, and I like what they make in it, but I still miss OXYGEN for its cleanliness, (not sure if still clean on OP9Pro as I heard it is not). and with MIUI I can easily debloat with ADB without affecting anything at all. and I still can reinstall debloats at anytime as well.
One more time, for more than 4 years on Oneplus, and before that I was on pixel and nexus, Xiaomi just for the past 3 months.
I have both and use both sometimes one sometimes the other. MIUI I think is really cool because completely different than what you would normally expect from the Android interface. Since it is a Chinese company that is geared more towards China and Europe. Your going to get a funky but really fun phone.
Make sure you get the right one if you care about bands. You can change ROMs but the bands will be different from China and Europe.
That said I just love using my 9 Pro there is a lot you can do with it.
Trying to decide which device to get to replace my current OnePlus 5T(4 years old) which is getting a little too old for day2day usage.
After some intensive research I've ended up with 2 models: OnePlus 9 PRO 12GB|256GB and Samsung S21 Plus 8GB|256GB.
They all have their Pro's & Con's but in the end they score the same for me and I'm having a little hard time to decide between them.
Main things that I would like from a new smartphone in this price area (high-end):
Very good CPU (to be able to keep up with software in the next few years)
Storage bigger than 128 (it is OK, but I need to clean up and backup in cloud all the time)
Slim device - Do not like very thick devices ( ~8mm is ok)
Display size 6.7" - I want to try a bigger display this time (will return if I cannot get used to it and look for something more compact in that case Samsung S21 standard or Asus Zenfone 8.
Good display quality & 120Hz, preferably auto-adjustable
At least 8GB of RAM, current device has 8GB and didn't had any issues so far with memory
Connectivity to be top of 2021: Wifi 6, BT 5, 5GB, etc.
Good battery life - I would expect something similar to current device and not to have battery anxiety
Fast Charge if possible - but depends on battery (if battery is good this is not a must)
Camera/Video - moderate expectations, but to still be relevant to the price range
Good software support - for at least 3 years
Good OS without bloatware or things that cannot be removed/cleaned
Prefer unlocked, although I've always used Orange.
Could be more, but these are most important I think.
I plan to keep the device for at least 3 years.
Both are priced the same in my country, ~800 Euro.
Which one do you recommend? If possible why?
Oneplus is not the same anymore. I bought my 9 pro on sale recently, and I am extremely disappointed. Build and hardware are solid, but software is absolute crap, full of obvious bugs, that are not being fixed for a long time already. Battery life is bad, I'm getting like 6 hours SOT.
Also, Samsung has released Android 12 for S21 already.
9 Pro 100%.
Almost none Bloatware. Samsung is FUll of it.
9 Pro Anndroid 12 Open Beta 1 & 2 works Fine.
On 9 Pro you can install Global Color Os Android 12 stable. Also works very well & have more option that Oxygen OS.
On 9 Pro you can unlock botloader, you can root.
I've owned 2 Samsung, Nothing on XDA for Global-Snapdragon, but full for Korea-Exynos.
xPan mode for camera on 9 Pro is absolut Great.
I use european 9 Pro.
The 9 Pro still has a lot to offer... try it out and take it for a spin!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and recommending a device.
Not sure that I want to manually install the Color OS 12 (Not that much of a fan).
If we are talking about software, from what I saw in the reviews One UI 4 seems a lot better and has more support from Samsung than ever.
This cannot be said for the OnePlus with their Oxygen OS 12. One of the main reasons I liked OnePlus devices was for their simplicity and their resemblance with Android Vanilla. I know I don't get this with Samsung also, but their directions seems a lot more clearer than what OnePlus is doing. Very unsure what Oppo impact will be on OnePlus in the future.
I'm more inclined for Samsung at this moment. I've even had the chance to go to a store and test an S21+ device directly. Seems really nice & I like that the overall size of the device is similar to my OnePlus 5T, although the display is bigger. From Specs OnePlus is a little bigger & thicker.
Better hold your money a little and buy Note 22 Ultra.
Oxygen Os is getting worse because google creap!
Is very simple to flash Color OS. You just do an upgrade from stable 11.2.8.8 or Open beta 1 or 2.
I've own Samsung note 10+ 5g, with SnapDragon cip.. Best looking phone ever! But slow software. Too Much Bloatware. OnePlus 8 Pro flies compared to 10+ 5g.
Samsung 20+ 5g , with SnapDragon cip. Phone was fast, but battery drain Super Mega Fast. I sold it after a week...
I Never buy a Samsuung with Exynos cip !!!
Also, some phones with SnapDragon 888 may or not have heating problem .
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Better hold your money a little and buy Note 22 Ultra.
Oxygen Os is getting worse because google creap!
Is very simple to flash Color OS. You just do an upgrade from stable 11.2.8.8 or Open beta 1 or 2.
I've own Samsung note 10+ 5g, with SnapDragon cip.. Best looking phone ever! But slow software. Too Much Bloatware. OnePlus 8 Pro flies compared to 10+ 5g.
Samsung 20+ 5g , with SnapDragon cip. Phone was fast, but battery drain Super Mega Fast. I sold it after a week...
I Never buy a Samsuung with Exynos cip !!!
Also, some phones with SnapDragon 888 may or not have heating problem .
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I think the S21+ with OneUi should be a lot better than what Samsung had for software in the past.
I was a little worried about the new Exynos chipset, but from the reviews & synthetic tests it seems to be much better than previous generations and almost the same as SS (not sure in daily usage would see a difference). In my local market I cannot get an S21+ with SS and have legal warranty and for a phone this expensive I do not want to risk it and end up with a device with defects.
At this price point honestly I do not want to pay solely for hardware as if this was the case I would have gotten a cheaper Android device (Realme GT for example) and flash a custom rom on it.
I think I will give S21+ a try and get it from a local vendor (having it even lower than the OP 9 Pro) where I can return it in 14 days. In those days I can clearly see if the device has any issues and maybe even try out the new OneUI 4.
I think that's a wise decision. The OnePlus 9 PRO is my first OnePlus device, and I think it will be my last. Apparently I'm too late to the game and missed the golden era.
A lot of mixed reviews. I used to own Samsung a long time ago, but HATED the fact that they had sooo much bloatware on the phone and if you'll be spending that kind of money they also made it very difficult to root and be able to do what you want on it. The perks of Oneplus is you basically get a vanilla Android OS with little to no bloatware, it's solid hardware, and they actually support modding it. Rooting it is pretty straight forward. I purchased my OP9 Pro for a really good deal ($650) and I have the Global version LE2125. I honestly have no problems with it. I'm running the stock Oxygen OS 11.2.8.8.LE15AA and I use the Omega Kernel 5.4.6.1. I don't play any games on it, but I do use it regularly for texting, internet, social media, phone calls, pictures (typical stuff) and I get over a day of use on it.
Don't forget charging !
Oneplus - 65w wired - 50w wireless. I use only wireless charging.
Samsung - hahaha...
In case anyone is interested, here's a review of oneplus 9 pro by gsmarena that i found today. Looks thorough enough. The battery life part is interesting.
OnePlus 9 Pro review
The OnePlus 9 Pro has a 6.7-inch, 3216 x 1440 resolution, 10-bit LTPO AMOLED display. The display has a variable refresh rate that maxes out at 120Hz. It...
m.gsmarena.com
Thank you for all the pro's & con's for each device.
Indeed, current software is still good, although Oxygen OS 11 is not what it used to be and it doesn't feel as smooth as Oxygen 10 does. The change in Oxygen 12 will be basically a change to ColorOS which I don't think will ever be the same for OP. And I'm afraid OnePlus will be worse with each iteration as it will get closer & closer to Oppo & ColorOS (which is not bad, but for entry/mid-range phones, I think).
Samsung does not have that much bloatware on their latest devices and OneUI 4 seems to be much smoother & with better support.
Honestly, if OP didn't had this software change and if it didn't get that bad with their software support I would have went for the OP without any hesitation.
Regarding rooting, I would prefer not to be forced to do this for high-end phones. It would be nice to be able to do it, but that is a different approach. From what I saw S21 can have it's bootloader unlocked and the process is not difficult.
I usually root my phones only after the warranty expires & if the software gets outdate (no more support or it slows down too much).
Received the S21+ today and will see how it feels the following days.
OnePlus 9 Pro increased the price and it is now above 1000 Euro. At that price it is not a good option, it should be around 800 Euro for a good value in my opinion.
If I'm not 100% happy and the price for OP gets lower again I will buy it and return Samsung device.
But will see how things go these days, I have 14 days to return it if I'm not happy with it.
Samsung -> KNOX <- Thats the killer if you want root
I would never buy a Samsung. I never bought a Samsung since they use KNOX.
I have no Problem with my OP9 Pro. So many write about "bugs" but I never had one. All my messengers (WA, Telegram, Signal and Threema) work fine. Calls over VoLTE work fine, WiFi Speed is good. System with Bluspark Kernel work very well - ~8-9h SOT.
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Samsung -> KNOX <- Thats the killer if you want root
I would never buy a Samsung. I never bought a Samsung since they use KNOX.
I have no Problem with my OP9 Pro. So many write about "bugs" but I never had one. All my messengers (WA, Telegram, Signal and Threema) work fine. Calls over VoLTE work fine, WiFi Speed is good. System with Bluspark Kernel work very well - ~8-9h SOT.
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Thank you for your thoughts on this device. I'm glad that it works good and you don't have issues with it.
Sadly, the fact that others have, only suggests there is some core issues with how the devices are assembled/configured and there is a high change it would have issues.
You get very good SOT, might I ask what apps you have and what is your usual usage of the phone(browsing, social, video, gaming)?
Did you try the new Oxygen OS 12 ? This is one of the biggest concerns I have as even OP fans have complaint about this.
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You get very good SOT, might I ask what apps you have and what is your usual usage of the phone(browsing, social, video, gaming)?
Did you try the new Oxygen OS 12 ? This is one of the biggest concerns I have as even OP fans have complaint about this.
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First, I dont play any games. I have a PC for gaming I dont use any social media BS like Facebook aka "Meta" (what a joke) or insta or twitter. I watch some YT videos and use a lot FireFox for browsing, but no heavy stuff which afford a lot of CPU power.
OOS is ATM not a option. Its still in a beta state, and I don't really need A12 - like I dont need Windows 11 in this state. The Phone is not bad or unusable with A11.
Also,
Now I have to consider the price difference: 770 Euro for Samsung S21+ vs 870 Euro for OnePlus 9 Pro, as the prices seem to have went up after Black Friday sales.
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First, I dont play any games. I have a PC for gaming I dont use any social media BS like Facebook aka "Meta" (what a joke) or insta or twitter. I watch some YT videos and use a lot FireFox for browsing, but no heavy stuff which afford a lot of CPU power.
OOS is ATM not a option. Its still in a beta state, and I don't really need A12 - like I dont need Windows 11 in this state. The Phone is not bad or unusable with A11.
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I see, thank you for your detailed answer.
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This is from my last full charge
inegru87 said:
Thank you for your thoughts on this device. I'm glad that it works good and you don't have issues with it.
Sadly, the fact that others have, only suggests there is some core issues with how the devices are assembled/configured and there is a high change it would have issues.
You get very good SOT, might I ask what apps you have and what is your usual usage of the phone(browsing, social, video, gaming)?
Did you try the new Oxygen OS 12 ? This is one of the biggest concerns I have as even OP fans have complaint about this.
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This is true sadly. I've had problems with warp charge not working and others have had different problems too. And others no problem at all.
Also OOS is really an average OS overall. Nothing to write home about. But custom roms are available (A11) which make it a decent device. Just not the flagship it was suppose to be...
Buying a new [used] phone and was looking at the S20 Ultra and OP9.
Found two decent prices for here in Aus: S20U @ $570AUD versus OP9 @ $440-500AUD.
I will likely keep the phone for three to four years, so curious about durability, build-quality, hardware, software/development. I know the OP9 is newer and faster (on paper), but how does it stand the test of time compared to Samsung who has been in the game or longer.
Thanks!
I had the OnePlus 9 for the wife and I currently have the 9 Pro for myself. She really wanted the Flip3 so T-mobile offered me $400 for it so all I had to do was put $170 down for it and that was it. They're also offering me $00 for my 9 Pro, but it's fully unlocked (sim/bl) and if I end up getting the Ultra, it would be the SD version and I would be stuck with a fully locked phone so I'd want to keep my 9 Pro to tinker with. Sorry if this doesn't help you at all, didn't know if you were looking for opinions specifically of what you're asking for, or if you wanted opinions on why someone would want it over the 9/Pro.
cheers. yeah just generally curious what people think. and sorry, its the 9 pro that I am looking at.
both mine would be unlocked. I've never owned a OnePLus device, but samsung is classic reliable..
Samsung has a better update policy, but fixed promised from the S21 series. Oneplus is currently experiencing difficulties in this area. Samsung guarantees updates for at least 3 years starting with the 21 models, if not more in the meantime.
I have a Oneplus 9 pro and just treated myself to a comparison with the Samsung S22 ultra. Except for disappointing improvements in the camera, I do not see any advantages, on the contrary; with root, your warranty is gone. So I'm sticking with Oneplus. Add the buds pro if you like listening to music; the sound is perfectly tuned to the phone and sounds worlds better than on other phones. The display of the 22 Ultra is on par, the speakers are worse, and the performance feels identical (Exynos for me). Keep in mind that the 20 Ultra is a bit older.
In terms of weight and form factor, I think the Oneplus is more durable and less vulnerable to drops.
But the update policy is still up in the air (because of ColorOS), but updates will certainly come.
Thanks for replying. I am definitely leaning towards OP9 Pro.
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Thanks for replying. I am definitely leaning towards OP9 Pro.
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From my nearly one year experience with the OnePlus 9 Pro and more with OnePlus itself (since the OnePlus 3, also went through the 7 Pro and the 8 Pro), the software update has gotten worse with time, especially with the OnePlus 9 Pro, which had a clearly bad first release of OxygenOS 12 (consider December 2021 was the worst month to get a OnePlus 9 Pro up to date).
As they are actively merging with OPPO (hardware and software), the first days were rough, but they are clearly improving with every updates and the C.44 is quite good so far (I even tried the full ColorOS 12 experience but came back to OxygenOS 12 because of throttling in games and a few other minor points). So if you're willing to trust OnePlus on their updates, I think you can have a quite decent phone.
On the hardware side, the charging system is clearly the best I've gone with (65W wired and 50W wireless, it's crazy fast). The screen is beautiful (it comes from Samsung factories, sooooooo... Let's say it won't be very different if you go for a recent Samsung phone). The partnership with Hasselblad is really bringing some improvements (even if it's software side) and that's the first phone that made me really enjoy taking pictures.
The supported communication bands are in line with pretty much all actual standards and had never to complain for any kind of connection (WiFi, Bluetooth, 2G/3G/4G/5G).
For me, it's a big recommendation, but if you had told me you hesitated with a S22 Ultra, I would have been a little less partial on it.
I like the design of S20 Ultra, but for some people could be bulky, big, heavy. For me design for S20 Ultra is Much Nicer than OnePlus 9 Pro. I like square phones. 9 Pro is absolutly Not.
Samsung = Bloatware. I don't know/care if you still can root it.
OnePlus 9 Pro you can root, debloat. It works very good. For me battery is great.
I have European phone & now i use ColorOS 12 stable global C.46.
If you have money, go for Samsung S22 Note, only wwith SnapDragon !
But if you don't want to throw money on a phone, OnePlus 9 Pro is great.
I hope none take this the wrong way, but I've had the 8 pro, then 9 pro coming from the pixel line, and it has been super sweet.
With Oppo taking control, I'm seriously concerned with them not releasing source code anymore in a timely manner. The reason I moved to this phone was a kernel dev moving(& me following), and now he has given up on the 9 pro , due to this issue. Thankfully currently, we have some really nice talent supporting our device.
I've always been on a custom ROM for the last seven+ years until the 8 pro and the 9 pro. With a few tweaks, OnePlus devs along with the awesome devs here on XDA had everything I used in the years past, and usually was more featured, and everything I needed.
Going forward, I suppose only custom ROMs will do the trick, but like previously mentioned, maybe the support for OnePlus 9 pro will improve from Oppo.
I'm really thankful for this community, and for their support with this device. I hope for the best going forward for OnePlus, Android, etc, but I find it hard to see me getting another OnePlus, but maybe I might change my mind, since I really like the idea of a device with the support for Gapps or microg, etc. I hope whatever you decide to do works out with no regrets, and I hope this could maybe be of use.
If root access wasn't a deciding factor for me, I would own an S20 Ultra right now instead of the 9 Pro. It ultimately came down to the fact that root on Samsung is effectively non-existent now, and root on OnePlus has always been easily achieved.
The S20 is smooth, pretty, innovative, and everything that most people would want in a high-end smartphone. It's also bloated, but I assume you can still somewhat debloat with adb. The OP9P is also a great phone, though maybe not as great as the early hype. However, I've always been happy with it, and I love that there's a great development community, even if it's a bit smaller than the 8Pro or 7 Pro. A lot are still holding out for the 10Pro.
That said, modding on OP9P on OOS12 is severely limited at present compared with OOS11 due to no sources (no custom kernels, etc.) and most of the UI being part of the theme so you can't change it via traditional methods. If this is the direction they're going long-term, this might be my last OP phone too. There are lots of great custom ROMs if you're into that, but personally I don't like having to wipe my data and start fresh to install custom ROMs, then spend weeks getting my phone back how I want it only to decide I'm not crazy about the ROM I chose (or it's not stable/a feature I need doesn't work) and have to do it all over again. I just find the whole process too tedious for a device I rely on every single day. I prefer a phone with a versatile, rootable, highly moddable stock firmware.