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Just wanted to start a thread to discuss this device. For those not familiar with it, it's a very inexpensive 11.6" laptop that runs RemixOS 2.0 from the factory. It does NOT have a touchscreen and the display is a low resolution (1366x768) TN panel display. The CPU is an Allwinner A64 Cortex A53 quad-core 64-bit processor.
The device I purchased (via their Kickstarter campaign) has 2gb RAM and 32gb storage - and it costs me $89.
Some interesting things I've found so far...
1. To disable the damn "click" sound every time you select something (via the touchpad or a mouse), download the QuickShortcutMaker application from the play store. Then expand the Settings items under the Activities section and find the "Other Sounds" activity. Once you click on the Other Sounds activity, click on "Try" on the right-hand side - this will open the "Other Sounds" dialog where you disable "Touch Sounds"! You can also disable some other sounds here. No idea why Remix doesn't allow access to these sound options. Explore the other Settings activities - there are some other cool things you can do. I also used this app to create "Shortcuts" to specific forums in Tapatalk (something that you do via widgets in standard Android). This QuickShortcutMaker app is pretty damn useful on this device!
2. I've found that I was able to connect my Apple USB->Ethernet adapter to this device and it works! However, it doesn't seem to work with ALL apps. For example, Tapatalk doesn't work with it for some reason - but so far, every other app has worked. You can also access ethernet settings via the QuickShortcutMaker app mentioned above.
3. Enable "Experimental Features" by clicking on the "Kernel Version" section of Settings->About. Once you do this, enable the "Use mouse wheel to simulate swipe gesture". This allows you to zoom in and out of things like web pages, images, etc. To do this, hold down CTRL+ALT while moving the mouse wheel. Apparently, the touchpad on this device does NOT provide pinch-to-zoom functionality, so without this setting, there is no way to zoom in and out in most apps! Kind of a big issue! Unless there is another way that I just don't know about. I know you can CTRL- and CTRL+ to zoom in and out in web pages, but that really just increases the size of the text - not really a true zoom in/out.
4. Gmail app. If you open the Gmail app as a window, you don't get the "split-screen" that you get if you open the app in full screen. But if you open in as a full-screen window and then "restore" it to a smaller window, the split-sceen function still works. I usually just leave Gmail minimized in order to keep the split-screen function active for Gmail.
5. Sometimes, the screen comes back on if you put the device into standby with the power button and then close the lid. I haven't been able to find the exact circumstances where the screen comes back on when closed, but it seems that when it does come on when it's closed, it stays on! Need to figure out why this occurs..
6. Bottom of device gets REALLY hot after any extended use. May be a long-term issue...
7. By default, wifi is set to turn off when in standby (unlike tablets) - unless the device is plugged in - then wifi will stay on. This can all be changed under Settings->Wifi->Advanced. I actually set mine to always turn wifi off when in standby since it seems that the device doesn't actually work while in standby anyway (again, unlike tablets). May help avoid wifi failure over the long-term.
8. I have run into websites (such as microcenter.com) where when you open a drop-down list, there is no way to "scroll" the list if it goes off the screen. To see what I mean, go to microcenter.com and try to set the store location - it opens a drop-down list that goes off the screen and there is no way to scroll down in the list! The "work-around" is to use the down arrow key, but it doesn't work very well (web page wants to update every time you press the down arrow)....
That's about it off the top of my head... It's a shame that this device cannot upgrade to RemixOS 3.0, like was stated in the kickstarted campaign (and later "retracted").
Anyone know how to root this thing?
It's an interesting device for the cost, but what I *really* want is a similar, large'ish device with a higher-quality, higher-resolution touchscreen that is removable from the keyboard - with at least 2gb of RAM (10" and 1gb of RAM isn't enough for RemixOS!) and runs RemixOS 3.0 - so far, I can't seem to find such a device...
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I got the same model 2GB w/32GB storage. Do you or anyone know how to get it to charge and or power on. Mine only worked for 2 days, now nothing. I contacted Azpen over a week ago about it and still haven't heard from them. Please help.
Cerealius said:
I got the same model 2GB w/32GB storage. Do you or anyone know how to get it to charge and or power on. Mine only worked for 2 days, now nothing. I contacted Azpen over a week ago about it and still haven't heard from them. Please help.
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I just plugged mine in and it charged fine (blue LED next to charging port turns on when charging and turns off when fully charged).
To turn mine on, I just held down the power button on the keyboard for a while... You can also fully power it off that way as well (if it gets hung or something, which I have managed to do a few times now).
I've *really* put this thing through it's paces over the last few days. Overall, it's a decent device for the price. Personally, I'd rather spend a little more for one with a better, higher-res, removable touchscreen though.
I also have a HP Slatebook 10 x2 - and it's a great device, but stuck on Android 4. Otherwise, it has a MUCH nicer, removable touchscreen and even an extra battery in the keyboard (that charges the tablet when attached). Just wish it was a little bigger (13" or so) and was running Remix OS.
But, for $89, I can't complain, my A1160 actually runs pretty well for what it is...Luckily, I haven't had any issues with mine.
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Hello...
@jtrosky, thanks for starting this thread, i've already gotten something out of it... getting rid of that damn clicking every keypress.
It was also nice to find that quickshortcutmaker, thats really a cool app that seems to allow more access than I could find...
Everyone else, hello!
I am an PC user since 84' and an Apple iPad user since, well the day the ipad 2 came out and now I'm on the iPad now. The only reason I say any of this is because the reason I got this Azpen A1160 was to help learn a bit about android and linux. I would also like to figure out how to get to the root...
Knock on wood but I got this three days ago and have literally beaten the software out of it loading, looking, deleting, and I thought I had screwed it up several times but it just keeps on ticking. The back does get a little warm, I haven't actually measured it yet but I'm going to, but I dont think it's too bad. I've run six full charges on battery and worked on it plugged in. (which it doesn't seem to like)
I'm happy with it right now and I think its going be a fun ride. I bet this is going to be a fun place to be in the next couple of months...
Buddy
Oh - one more thing I found out - and this may be well known already for those more familiar with RemixOS. If you click and hold on the little icons on the bottom-right of the taskbar, you can move them around. So, for example, you can make it so the brightness, volume, bluetooth and wifi icons are always visible, even when that section is "collapsed"...
Also - I *love* having the key to disable the touchpad (the key next to the arrow keys). Since I usually use a bluetooth mouse, it's so nice being able to disable the trackpad so quickly and easily!
Oh - and the Prtscr button on the keyboard brings up the very cool screen capture tool, which let's you select what area of the screen to capture. Very handy tool!
Still not sure what the "Pausc" button does - I'm assuming it's actually a misprint and it's supposed to say "Pause". Gotta love cheap electronics that are made in China!
So far, this device is definitely working well for me. Although, I'm not so sure the screen is big enough to truly take advantage of the RemixOS windowing capabilities... But, it's still better than not having any windowing capabilities.
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One more quick tip - there are apps out there that will let you boost the volume of the device. Right now, I'm using Music Volume EQ to boost the volume, but there are probably better apps out there for this purpose... Will explore more later and post an update if I find a better app.
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Hello guys, thank you for creating this thread.
Did anyone have any issue by setting up a password for the lock screen?
I did, and it worked for a couple of times, then it started not to recognize the password (password was correct, no caps lock...). Of course it didn't work after reboot as well.
The only option was to remotely reset the device using the google's tool from another pc. Very annoying. Since then never tried to set another security system for the screen lock.
I'm also getting an a problem after turning off the screen: when I try to turn it on again, most of the time I get a blank screen. I have to try several times to get back to remix os.
Did anyone faced this issue as well?
Regards
sephitoor said:
Hello guys, thank you for creating this thread.
Did anyone have any issue by setting up a password for the lock screen?
I did, and it worked for a couple of times, then it started not to recognize the password (password was correct, no caps lock...). Of course it didn't work after reboot as well.
The only option was to remotely reset the device using the google's tool from another pc. Very annoying. Since then never tried to set another security system for the screen lock.
I'm also getting an a problem after turning off the screen: when I try to turn it on again, most of the time I get a blank screen. I have to try several times to get back to remix os.
Did anyone faced this issue as well?
Regards
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I have not tried setting up the lock screen (I just leave mine unlocked). And no, I have not had any issues with a blank screen when turning the device back up. What's strange is that the device does not automatically turn on when opening the screen - at least not on my device - I have to press the power button.
Your issues are probably because of the poor quality control with these device. Somehow, I lucked out and got a "good one", but many people seem to be having build-quality issues with them...
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Great posts and many thanks to the OP.
I got a US 2 pin power plug instead of a UK plug. Does anyone know of a similar products power lead that will fit our A1160?
Need help...
Hi,
First, thanks for creating this thread and posting your tips. Obviously there are not a lot of people using this device yet so it is great to find useful info on it.
Since there is no known root solution yet, I tried installing NetGuard as an adbllocking solution that does not require root. I have used it before without any issues. Unfortunately, on the Azpen, every time that I enable it, it blocks all internet access (it is obviously not supposed to do that). I even tried alternative apps like AdClear and got the exact same result. There is something strange going on with the Azpen. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any pointers as to how I could resolve this.
Thanks...
Welp! I had much higher hopes for this device and I haven't even received mine yet! Will this be rootable?
Thanks for creating this, used both your sound clicking tip and the pinch to zoom in. A bit annoying having your fingers in multiple place to zoom in, but what can you do? I'm a college student and have found that I can't access the net with this device due to it's mac address changing each time. I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this or if mine is the only one. Just thought I would share that.
HyugaSho said:
Thanks for creating this, used both your sound clicking tip and the pinch to zoom in. A bit annoying having your fingers in multiple place to zoom in, but what can you do? I'm a college student and have found that I can't access the net with this device due to it's mac address changing each time. I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this or if mine is the only one. Just thought I would share that.
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That is *really* interesting! Sure enough, if I disable and re-enable the wifi, the MAC address does change!! That makes absolutely no sense - I've never seen such a thing!
I'll look into that a little more - but without root, I doubt there is anything that can be done about it. So strange!
One possible option - set wifi to stay enabled all of the time - maybe that way the MAC will stay the same. You can set that in the wifi settings advanced options. I've found that you have to reboot after setting it to always stay active....
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So far I have been impressed for the cost of this unit. I have a few concerns and wanted to see if anyone had input:
1. Since the length of the power chord is so short. Is it possible to use a USB to Barrel jack type of adapter to power this? That way you can attach to a portable power bank?
2. battery power, I find it to not last that long and I find it takes forever to charge. I thought that this would last 5-7 hours unplugged, nope. It was supposed to charge within in a hour, nope. Any ideas on this?
I use an external mouse and click on the trackpad disable button. I find it much easier to use the computer when typing.
I'm looking at Pinebook, a notebook having the same AllWinner processor (CortexA53).
It seems this notebook can run all OSs suppoted by Pine64, such as Android, some linux distro, Windows IOT and they are working on a Chroimum porting (try to have a look at the pin64 forum).
Do you think it would be possible to do the same with A1160 ?
Another solution could be PhoenixOs (as pointed out in some comment on Kickstarter).
There are already some devices with CortexA53 processor running PhoenixOS out of the box.
I honestly don't know what OS's can be ported over to this device yet. I have a feeling that it's never going to have a huge user base though, so I wouldn't expect much from the developers out there.
Now that Chromebooks can run Android apps, this device just isn't quite as interesting as it once was. Basically, you can now get an inexpensive, *high quality* Chromebook and still have most of the advantages of this device, plus the high quality and frequent updates part.
To be completely honest, I have very low expectations for this device in the long-term. With how hot it gets after any real usage, I expect the mainboard to fail in short order. We'll see. Although, so far, I've really been using it pretty heavily and it does seem to be holding up, but it's only been about a week....
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Something else I recently noticed - and this may already be a well-known thing with RemixOS... If you close an app by clicking the back arrow on the top-left of the window, you continue to get notifications for that app. But if you close it by clicking the "X" in the top-right of the window, it seems to completely the kill the process and you no longer receive notifications (or if it's an app that stays around and puts a "permanent" notification in the notification tray, the "x" seems to completely stop the app as well and removes its notification item).
At least that's what seems to happen...
Also noticed that even if you setup wifi to stay active even with power off, the unit eventually goes into a "deep sleep" where you will no longer get new email notifications, etc. It even seems to turn wifi off after a while (even though it's set to stay on all of the time).
Lastly, if you have an external mouse connected, close the laptop lid and then move the mouse, it turns the screen back on - even while closed!
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Hi All,
Saw this in the comments and thought I would chip in with my experience so far.
I got the 64GB version and so far it is the computer I have paid for.
The track pad as everyone said is very crappy, but I just use an external mouse instead so its not a big problem.
I seem to have a good unit and don't have any problems with the unit.
My only gripe is that the battery kinda sucks and after using it intensive for like 3-4 hrs, it will have almost no battery. I wish it came with my UK adapter instead of the US one, but its okay.
Furthermore, is there anyway to put widgets on it? or Use another launcher?
Has anyone tried to root it or tried to install another OS on top of it? I heard that PhoenixOs is possible?
MindlessManiacs said:
Hi All,
The track pad as everyone said is very crappy, but I just use an external mouse instead so its not a big problem.
Furthermore, is there anyway to put widgets on it? or Use another launcher?
Has anyone tried to root it or tried to install another OS on top of it? I heard that PhoenixOs is possible?
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For what it's worth, my trackpad actually works really well. I was surprised to read all of the complaints about it. I'm guessing that a lot of them are defective?
Regarding the widgets, no - there is no way to use Widgets in Remix OS 2.0 (not sure about 3.0), which is a huge limitation. Widgets are one of the things that make Android so powerful - and I miss them big time in Remix OS...
I too would like to know if there is a way to load PhoenixOS on this device. I thought I saw it mentioned somewhere that it would be possible (maybe one of the updates on Kickstarter?). I will see if I can email Azpen about this. RemixOS 2.0 is really good, but not quite "finished" in my opinion...
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Hi! Does somebody receive a blank white screen when laptop booting or waking up?
Every time when I push power button I get a blank white screen... How I can fix it?
I wanted to throw this one out here because XDA likely hasn't looked into this one yet. Best Buy is offering the Tracfone Wireless ZTE Cymbal Android FlipPhone for $50 (on Tracfone's website, it's $100). I had it shipped to my house and it arrived today, so I wanted to give my thoughts.
It ships with similar specs to the LG K3/K4 models. Snapdragon 210 CPU, 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, expandable microSD (32GB) slot. Touchscreen is 3.5 inches (low resolution), it has two speakers AND two microphones, a physical keypad (FLIP PHONE), a headphone jack, and a modest battery for its size. The OS is Stock Android 5.1.1 Lollipop. There's also an external display for clock. Because it's a CDMA phone, it has an MEID for 3G and an LTE SIM for 4G. It MUST be activated through Tracfone or used with some kind of Mobile Hotspot.
The device features physical Android keys (Home, Back, Recent), a camera key, mute key, messaging key, favorite app key, D-Pad with center button, and a backspace/C key. I swapped the launcher with NOVA Prime and mapped the home key to the app drawer. Because of the small screen, I made it so desktop is 4x5, but app drawer is 3x4. Arrow keys can then be used to navigate, or you can touch the screen directly.
The internal antenna is wicked powerful. Most phones do not get signal at my house, yet this phone can occasionally detect VZW's 3G network while inside. More crazy is that the internal GPS includes something called IZat and gets a lock-on while indoors. I have rarely seen a phone do that. This phone does have a proximity sensor and an ambient light sensor, though the latter isn't the best. I disabled Auto-brightness because the phone was changing brightness to often for my liking. That said, the backlight is really bright even at low settings.
That said, there are a few things I am not liking. The messaging key does not map to your default messaging app. It goes to the stock messaging app, no exceptions, even if you select a different app like Hangouts as the default. Additionally, the physical keyboard modes aren't exactly the best laid-out. You have your legacy modes, but instead of using the 1 key for symbols, you use the * key and navigate a small menu on the screen. There's also a "T12" mode which is similar to T9 though requires you to select the word using the center button every time before hitting space. I'm still trying to figure out if that can be modified.
Thankfully, you can also install touchscreen keypads like Google Keyboard or use the included TouchPal keyboard. Its layout is not too bad for a 3.5 inch screen, but it kind of defeats the purpose of using a physical keypad. I would say the only advantage of having it is being able to dial a number without having to open the dialer app. Plus, if you press the Green (call) key from the home screen, it takes you to your contacts list.
All in all, it was a great way to implement Android flip phones into the North American market, but I don't know if I would use this as a daily driver just yet. I still have my Moto G4 Play running Lineage 14.1, and I need that for work anyway (certain apps would not do well on the ZTE). But for $50, this phone gives my Moto a serious run for its money.
I picked this device up on discount as well.
It's far more phone than I expected for the money, that is for sure. It would be great to see a software update to at least 6.0, but I doubt it will happen.
I think the only thing missing from the device is a convertible style hinge. being able to flip the screen around and close the clamshell would be really amazing.
All in all, punching above its $50 weight class.
I was looking at this online today. I'm on AT&T though so while there are some "unlocked" offered online, I'm not sure it would work with my sim card. This is really the kind of thing I am hoping for though, a blast from the past that can slip into my pocket and still do Android. I wonder if you can play Pokemon Go on it...
To bump up this thread, I bought mine at local K-Mart recently for $49.99, had been hoping to run across one of these. It's a great little phone for the money I paid, considering it's features and appearance. I could see this type of phone being tweaked into a great daily driver. The speaker is pretty clear and surprisingly loud. My eyes aren't what they used to be, but the screen is clear and bright. It's a budget phone, but it's a great one. I currently use it with my Safelink account (via Tracfone) and it seems to get good cellular reception (verizon 4g LTE towers), as I stay in my underground basement most of the time, working on Computers and such. I want to get another just to experiment on with a custom launcher and some other apps. I'm curious if it can be rooted, and if it would even be worth it if it can. It's a pretty cool phone, hope to see more phones similar to it soon here in the US...
Unlock zte cymbal t tracfone ,it's not prompting for unlock code with diff sim triedd
Phone Fan said:
To bump up this thread, I bought mine at local K-Mart recently for $49.99, had been hoping to run across one of these. It's a great little phone for the money I paid, considering it's features and appearance. I could see this type of phone being tweaked into a great daily driver. The speaker is pretty clear and surprisingly loud. My eyes aren't what they used to be, but the screen is clear and bright. It's a budget phone, but it's a great one. I currently use it with my Safelink account (via Tracfone) and it seems to get good cellular reception (verizon 4g LTE towers), as I stay in my underground basement most of the time, working on Computers and such. I want to get another just to experiment on with a custom launcher and some other apps. I'm curious if it can be rooted, and if it would even be worth it if it can. It's a pretty cool phone, hope to see more phones similar to it soon here in the US...
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Can anyone help plz
Hi,
FYI, in case anyone is interested, QVC has these for sale for like $49.98 incl 1 year and 1200 mins on Tracfone.
I found that while I was searching for a backup battery for the one I bought my wife (from bestbuy - I messed up and paid more for that one !).
Anyway, beware though. It does not seem possible to buy just the battery anywhere nowadays (as of Aug 2017 anyway).
Jim
Zte Cymbal T Root and Battery
jimcpl said:
Hi,
FYI, in case anyone is interested, QVC has these for sale for like $49.98 incl 1 year and 1200 mins on Tracfone.
I found that while I was searching for a backup battery for the one I bought my wife (from bestbuy - I messed up and paid more for that one !).
Anyway, beware though. It does not seem possible to buy just the battery anywhere nowadays (as of Aug 2017 anyway).
Jim
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Yeh anyone know if a tracphone can be rooted? I also looking for batteries.
unlock help
anyone know how to unlock this tracphone
mkollersms said:
I wanted to throw this one out here because XDA likely hasn't looked into this one yet. Best Buy is offering the Tracfone Wireless ZTE Cymbal Android FlipPhone for $50 (on Tracfone's website, it's $100). I had it shipped to my house and it arrived today, so I wanted to give my thoughts.
It ships with similar specs to the LG K3/K4 models. Snapdragon 210 CPU, 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, expandable microSD (32GB) slot. Touchscreen is 3.5 inches (low resolution), it has two speakers AND two microphones, a physical keypad (FLIP PHONE), a headphone jack, and a modest battery for its size. The OS is Stock Android 5.1.1 Lollipop. There's also an external display for clock. Because it's a CDMA phone, it has an MEID for 3G and an LTE SIM for 4G. It MUST be activated through Tracfone or used with some kind of Mobile Hotspot.
The device features physical Android keys (Home, Back, Recent), a camera key, mute key, messaging key, favorite app key, D-Pad with center button, and a backspace/C key. I swapped the launcher with NOVA Prime and mapped the home key to the app drawer. Because of the small screen, I made it so desktop is 4x5, but app drawer is 3x4. Arrow keys can then be used to navigate, or you can touch the screen directly.
The internal antenna is wicked powerful. Most phones do not get signal at my house, yet this phone can occasionally detect VZW's 3G network while inside. More crazy is that the internal GPS includes something called IZat and gets a lock-on while indoors. I have rarely seen a phone do that. This phone does have a proximity sensor and an ambient light sensor, though the latter isn't the best. I disabled Auto-brightness because the phone was changing brightness to often for my liking. That said, the backlight is really bright even at low settings.
That said, there are a few things I am not liking. The messaging key does not map to your default messaging app. It goes to the stock messaging app, no exceptions, even if you select a different app like Hangouts as the default. Additionally, the physical keyboard modes aren't exactly the best laid-out. You have your legacy modes, but instead of using the 1 key for symbols, you use the * key and navigate a small menu on the screen. There's also a "T12" mode which is similar to T9 though requires you to select the word using the center button every time before hitting space. I'm still trying to figure out if that can be modified.
Thankfully, you can also install touchscreen keypads like Google Keyboard or use the included TouchPal keyboard. Its layout is not too bad for a 3.5 inch screen, but it kind of defeats the purpose of using a physical keypad. I would say the only advantage of having it is being able to dial a number without having to open the dialer app. Plus, if you press the Green (call) key from the home screen, it takes you to your contacts list.
All in all, it was a great way to implement Android flip phones into the North American market, but I don't know if I would use this as a daily driver just yet. I still have my Moto G4 Play running Lineage 14.1, and I need that for work anyway (certain apps would not do well on the ZTE). But for $50, this phone gives my Moto a serious run for its money.
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Hi, you mentioned that you installed hangouts and the NOVA prime launcher, i've been trying to install apps on this phone and wasnt able too, i tried via apk files and via ADB and wasnt succesfull,
if you can please advise
Thanks!
lazer7598 said:
Hi, you mentioned that you installed hangouts and the NOVA prime launcher, i've been trying to install apps on this phone and wasnt able too, i tried via apk files and via ADB and wasnt succesfull,
if you can please advise
Thanks!
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i tried rooting it and wasn't successful either
It has been a month since I got the PD.
Some brief thoughts based upon my experience with the phone.
I was an Apple user since they launched the iPhone in 2007. Nothing to do with the perpetual Apple vs. Android debate, just iOS suited my purposes, that's all.
I was using the HTC 10/BB DTEK50/Priv for a while, as a second phone.
I got fairly used to the operating system and to be honest, they are all very similar. But carrying 2, sometimes 3 phones was becoming a right pain, so looked for a good dual sim phone that would run two What's app accounts simultaneously.
Enter the PD. Easily love at first sight. I said this was my "jumping off point".
Wasn't very easy to get hold of, where I live, so had to wait almost a month and PAID-A-LOT-!! LOL
What a truly beautiful phone. I have used every Apple phone ever made, every BB phone made, 2 Vertu's (UGHH), and hand on my heart can say, I still cannot stop looking at it.
I had a major issue after setting it up, which is discussed in another thread.
I had no home screen icons or apps visible, only a blank screen that allowed calls and messages to come through in the status bar, could enter settings, but that was it.
The eventual solution, after almost suffering a heart attack, was to load both sims in, and then ejecting the sim tray. The apps just popped up instantly. Very strange, indeed.
After that, everything has been super easy.
-Stellar Battery (and I am a heavy user)
-2 whatsapp accounts running - awesome.
-What a lovely screen!
-No complaints with the camera. I like it. Even the slightly synthetic "Leica" look in the Wide Aperture Mode.
-The Fingerprint sensor is absolutely instant.
-EMUI is easy and nice to navigate
-The ability to edit the quick launch(?) icons in the pull down menu is excellent.
Now the bits that are bugging me.
1) No firmware updates. The last one was, I believe, in December, and I still am on B138. This is something that Huawei needs to look into post haste. I have written to them 5 times, till today. No response whatsoever.
2) Notifications - this is the elephant in the room. They are random at best.
All the Settings - Unlimited data Access, Battery Optimizations, Battery Ignore Whitelists, Priority Notifications, etc. are all on, as is oft discussed, and checked, but whatsapp and emails sometimes still do not give me a notification, until I open the app. This IS an issue for me. I am missing time constrained messages all the time. If anyone has a fix or solution for this, I will be very grateful.
3) Keyboard, Sometimes, the keyboard will freeze if the screen sleeps whilst the keyboard is open in an app, and I reopen it.
I have to collapse the keyboard and bring it up again. Not a huge deal, but an annoyance, none the less. Maybe a GBoard thing?
4) Screen Auto Brightness - Takes an age to organize itself. In the dark, it will blind you, before thinking to itself, that it is, indeed, night, and the screen should be a wee bit less bright. The exact opposite in the day - Very dim and then will eventually get off its backside and decide to brighten up the screen. Very annoying.
5) How do I change the name of my phone. It's not the Bluetooth and Wifi name. My car still picks it up as Huawei LON-L29, as do apps like Photosync and whilst connecting to my Mac.
6) Photos. Now this may not be a PD Specific issue, but when I transferred my 22,000 images across, they all came as a big jumbled mess. No date-wise organization. So looking for specific images, is well, impossible.
7) Music - No equalizer settings in the stock music app. For my specific purposes, unusable, because in my car's bluetooth radio, the bass is overwhelming.
So, apart from these minor points (and 1 big one), I love the phone. I wonder how they could possibly improve it...Firmware, Huawei! Firmware!
For photos delete the cache. That'll sort the jumbled up mess.
For Music Player Google removed the EQ option a few months ago, I hate Play Music now. I use Captune. It has its shortcomings but its the best EQ.
Keyboard - I use Swift with no problems.
My worst issues are the crappy screen protector (GG3) and the lack up updates. I'll be selling it shortly.
I'm enjoying my phone,the only gripe I have with it is the UPDATES.
As for keyboards Try downloading Blackberry Keyboard or Google Keyboard.
Thank you for your suggestions, guys.
I tried clearing the cache, but no joy there. I tried an app called Quickpic, that is apparently supposed to deal with this. Didn't help either.
I was wondering, even if I had to reimport all my image and video files, is there any way they could be sorted by date taken?
This is turning out to be as big of an issue as the notification one, as I depend on images and videos, to send and discuss with my clients. And needless to say, I can't find anything. So am relegated to carrying an iPhone 6s+ just for my media, so I can send the required files via email or WhatsApp. Really, Not an ideal situation.
I will try the BB Keyboard.
Regarding the packaged screen protector, agreed, it is appalling. Before I buy the 2.5/3D tempered glass screen protector, has anyone had any experience with it?
Bonerp, Captune works for me, Thank you.
Have any of you'll worked around the notification bug?
For example, WhatsApp notifications sometimes do not wake the screen, but when a second or third WhatsApp message comes through, it may wake...Or not.
Seriously, if this is such a widely publicized bug, why is Huawei not looking into this?
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Thank you for your suggestions, guys.
I tried clearing the cache, but no joy there. I tried an app called Quickpic, that is apparently supposed to deal with this. Didn't help either.
I was wondering, even if I had to reimport all my image and video files, is there any way they could be sorted by date taken?
This is turning out to be as big of an issue as the notification one, as I depend on images and videos, to send and discuss with my clients. And needless to say, I can't find anything. So am relegated to carrying an iPhone 6s+ just for my media, so I can send the required files via email or WhatsApp. Really, Not an ideal situation.
I will try the BB Keyboard.
Regarding the packaged screen protector, agreed, it is appalling. Before I buy the 2.5/3D tempered glass screen protector, has anyone had any experience with it?
Bonerp, Captune works for me, Thank you.
Have any of you'll worked around the notification bug?
For example, WhatsApp notifications sometimes do not wake the screen, but when a second or third WhatsApp message comes through, it may wake...Or not.
Seriously, if this is such a widely publicized bug, why is Huawei not looking into this?
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I tried a curved tempered glass protector and it was awful so binned it. It had tape on the edges and just didn't look good and lost sensitivity.
Have you tried clearing cache at the boot screen or from settings/storage? Might help with the notification bug.
I've sent Huawei several things to fix and just had a 'thank you' response and nothing more. I'm not aware of a notification bug though. I definitely had one on the mate 9 until the first pre release fix was received, but not on this one.
Only other thing I can suggest re pics is delete data, or delete google account, delete cache then add your account again.
How do you guys work around the copy-paste thing?
I mean to having to bring out a paper and pen for copying an email address, phone number, passage from a message or an email is just unacceptable, when this is a widely utilized convenience on other platforms and, I believe, some Android UI's too?
I have tried a few apps that claim they can do this, but no joy.
Also, sharing contacts from the contacts app, only allows vcard, text message and attach to email, no What'sApp, Outlook or any app, for that matter. Can this option be changed somewhere?
quick question
I am looking to get the mate 9 pro; which is the same phone as the PD, just without the fancy branding..
Are any of you on Tmobile in the USA, and, do you get 4G/LTE?
The reseller I have been emailing with on Amazon says you do NOT get 4GLTE on Tmobile in the USA with this phone, but I have read that you do.
Thanks if you can help with this! :good::good:
I don't try Beta releases, but I tried the P anyway, mostly because of the new UI design and stuffs, but I couldn't stay on it for like 30 mins even.
Firstly, and I don't know whether it will be brought back or not, you now have to swipe down from notification bar area twice to access Settings menu! I mean WTF!
Secondly and the most annoying and inconvenient thing, now you can't increase or decrease the Ringer with the volume buttons. No matter what you do Volume buttons now will only control the Media volume! I mean WTAF! I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume! To increase or decrease the Ringtone you now have to click on that tiny Settings icon and then increase the ringer or decrease, and while you do that, your ringtone will be played for a brief period of time, unlike the older method, where you could just slide left or right to decrease or increase from any screen and it will never play the ringtones in the process!
Really? No one goes to any business meetings or something? Now you gotta alert them hey look I am controlling my phone's ringer! What the actual **** Google?
I used it for like 15 mins before coming back to Oreo, but if these changes are made fundamentally then its a big pile of ****.
Oh, and that swipe up from home button, I mean please Google, really? Worst implementation of gesture based navigation one could ever think of! Either gestures should be done from full screen or go back to old nav bar or just GTFO!
Every Android update now seems to think how to make users spend more time in trying to do the simple things, it's baffling how inconvenient the experience is becoming. Remember in Nougat we actually had double tap to lock screen and then swipe to unlock? Never had to press the power button, ever. Now with Oreo they got rid of that, quad tap was introduced and now with P these even more stupid things are here.
Is it time? I mean to go back to dumb-phones or something?
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I don't try Beta releases, but I tried the P anyway, mostly because of the new UI design and stuffs, but I couldn't stay on it for like 30 mins even.
Firstly, and I don't know whether it will be brought back or not, you now have to swipe down from notification bar area twice to access Settings menu! I mean WTF!
Secondly and the most annoying and inconvenient thing, now you can't increase or decrease the Ringer with the volume buttons. No matter what you do Volume buttons now will only control the Media volume! I mean WTAF! I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume! To increase or decrease the Ringtone you now have to click on that tiny Settings icon and then increase the ringer or decrease, and while you do that, your ringtone will be played for a brief period of time, unlike the older method, where you could just slide left or right to decrease or increase from any screen and it will never play the ringtones in the process!
Really? No one goes to any business meetings or something? Now you gotta alert them hey look I am controlling my phone's ringer! What the actual **** Google?
I used it for like 15 mins before coming back to Oreo, but if these changes are made fundamentally then its a big pile of ****.
Oh, and that swipe up from home button, I mean please Google, really? Worst implementation of gesture based navigation one could ever think of! Either gestures should be done from full screen or go back to old nav bar or just GTFO!
Every Android update now seems to think how to make users spend more time in trying to do the simple things, it's baffling how inconvenient the experience is becoming. Remember in Nougat we actually had double tap to lock screen and then swipe to unlock? Never had to press the power button, ever. Now with Oreo they got rid of that, quad tap was introduced and now with P these even more stupid things are here.
Is it time? I mean to go back to dumb-phones or something?
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Definitely all you.
1. You've got me with the settings, but I don't usually get to settings through there, so for me, I could care less.
2. Umm, how about you, ya know, put your phone on silent BEFORE you go into the meeting? 90% of the time I touch the volume buttons, it's for media. My ringer is either on, off, or vibrate. I very rarely set it to a lower volume. When I'm in a business meeting, I'm there for business. I don't need my phone to go off, even low.
3. I like the gesture nav, so you've lost me on that one as well.
If you don't like it, I'm sure you'll have other manufacturers who still include the regular nav bar. Doubt Android will completely take it away, at least for the foreseeable future. Maybe on Pixel devices, but they won't enforce that globally. Android is changing. It's been changing. You either change to keep up with times, or you try to trailblaze. I've had Android since the g1 .. trust me, you learn to take the good with the bad. At least in the preview the gestures are an option. The double tap does annoy me a bit, but at the end of the day ... It's a phone. It will take me less than a second to tap two more times, and go about my life. There is no reason to be raging this hard. Nobody is forcing you to update
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I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume!
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You are one of a very small number of people. Most people have been asking for Google to make this change for years, because almost nobody changes their ringer volume. If you need to silence your phone, why not use the "Do Not Disturb" quick tile, instead of changing your ringer volume?
This is actually the one change I am most excited for with Android P, because it was one of the reasons I used to use Lineage.
Omg! This stupidly accepting mentality is the reason why Google will not be bothering to consider bringing back the practical, convenient options any more!
I mean jeez! Time is obviously of no importance to the people who can adapt with time wasting method rather than time saving ones! Like double tapping to quad tapping. Like going into sound option and then get the option for changing ringer volume, rather than just hitting volume buttons! Also it's so aesthetically displeasing. Every time you wanna change the ringer you'll hear the ringtone, RoFL.
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Omg! This stupidly accepting mentality is the reason why Google will not be bothering to consider bringing back the practical, convenient options any more!
I mean jeez! Time is obviously of no importance to the people who can adapt with time wasting method rather than time saving ones! Like double tapping to quad tapping. Like going into sound option and then get the option for changing ringer volume, rather than just hitting volume buttons! Also it's so aesthetically displeasing. Every time you wanna change the ringer you'll hear the ringtone, RoFL.
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Are you a child? Honestly, you sound stupid. Times change. Go back to another manufacturer, as I'm sure there are those who will do things differently. If you think quad tapping is going to take years off your life, you must be expecting to live for a mighty long time. It's not that huge a deal. You're making a mountain of an anthill. You only want what YOU want, and don't care what anyone else wants. YOU think it's dumb, so you think everyone must agree. Grow up. To change my ringer, I simply press the volume button, then click the icon for silent, audible, or vibrate. I don't change my ringer volume 10+ times a day. Most of the people who have been asking for YEARS don't. We get it, you want to go back to nougat forever. Then do so, and shut up. Honestly. Every single time Google changes something people complain. They aren't forcing you to use Android. If you don't like it, there are alternatives, or you can learn to program yourself and make your own. Year after year you people belly ache over a FREE operating system. My time is very valuable, which is why I don't spend so much time on it to need to change volume 10+ times a day, or worry about having to quad tap the few times I actually need the phone. When I pull it out of my pocket, it lights up. Double tap. I'm not glued to my device. Also, I don't think it's aesthetically displeasing. I enjoy it. I also prefer German cars over Japanese. I think the Audi rs4 looks better than the Mitsubishi Eclipse. I like vanilla instead of chocolate. The world is full of different flavors than just what YOU want, and you'll get further in life the less you complain because things aren't going your way, and start enjoying what you have. Officially done with this stupid thread.
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Are you a child? Honestly, you sound stupid. Times change. Go back to another manufacturer, as I'm sure there are those who will do things differently. If you think quad tapping is going to take years off your life, you must be expecting to live for a mighty long time. It's not that huge a deal. You're making a mountain of an anthill. You only want what YOU want, and don't care what anyone else wants. YOU think it's dumb, so you think everyone must agree. Grow up. To change my ringer, I simply press the volume button, then click the icon for silent, audible, or vibrate. I don't change my ringer volume 10+ times a day. Most of the people who have been asking for YEARS don't. We get it, you want to go back to nougat forever. Then do so, and shut up. Honestly. Every single time Google changes something people complain. They aren't forcing you to use Android. If you don't like it, there are alternatives, or you can learn to program yourself and make your own. Year after year you people belly ache over a FREE operating system. My time is very valuable, which is why I don't spend so much time on it to need to change volume 10+ times a day, or worry about having to quad tap the few times I actually need the phone. When I pull it out of my pocket, it lights up. Double tap. I'm not glued to my device. Also, I don't think it's aesthetically displeasing. I enjoy it. I also prefer German cars over Japanese. I think the Audi rs4 looks better than the Mitsubishi Eclipse. I like vanilla instead of chocolate. The world is full of different flavors than just what YOU want, and you'll get further in life the less you complain because things aren't going your way, and start enjoying what you have. Officially done with this stupid thread.
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Calm the **** down. My complaint is against Google, not you. Though I have seen Google shills before, so nothing new.
If your time is as valuable as you claim it is, then you would not have preferred more time consuming thing, period, simply confirms you're just another Google shill, or just someone needing medical care.
I didn't ask you to say anything here, you came yourself, because you were pissed off simply because I pointed out facts of Google's idiosyncratic choices. Simply bugger off if you think topic is stupid, I for one not giving the slightest damn about it anyway.
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Secondly and the most annoying and inconvenient thing, now you can't increase or decrease the Ringer with the volume buttons. No matter what you do Volume buttons now will only control the Media volume! I mean WTAF! I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume! To increase or decrease the Ringtone you now have to click on that tiny Settings icon and then increase the ringer or decrease, and while you do that, your ringtone will be played for a brief period of time, unlike the older method, where you could just slide left or right to decrease or increase from any screen and it will never play the ringtones in the process!
Really? No one goes to any business meetings or something? Now you gotta alert them hey look I am controlling my phone's ringer! What the actual **** Google?
I used it for like 15 mins before coming back to Oreo, but if these changes are made fundamentally then its a big pile of ****.
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Ringer on/off is power button + volume down.
really dude?
It's pretty quick to turn off the ringer... Hit the volume control then touch the bell on top of the volume slider.
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Calm the **** down. My complaint is against Google, not you. Though I have seen Google shills before, so nothing new.
If your time is as valuable as you claim it is, then you would not have preferred more time consuming thing, period, simply confirms you're just another Google shill, or just someone needing medical care.
I didn't ask you to say anything here, you came yourself, because you were pissed off simply because I pointed out facts of Google's idiosyncratic choices. Simply bugger off if you think topic is stupid, I for one not giving the slightest damn about it anyway.
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I'm gonna suggest you are the one needing to calm down here.
I'm on P.
Now I'm getting used to how it's working, I'm liking it.
Still needs some tweaks, and you can turn off gestures if it's really causing you sleepless nights
y2grae said:
I'm gonna suggest you are the one needing to calm down here.
I'm on P.
Now I'm getting used to how it's working, I'm liking it.
Still needs some tweaks, and you can turn off gestures if it's really causing you sleepless nights
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No, i was calm. Just because i made one forum post seemed to look like i was raging, it has no relation with my personal life.
Like i said, I'm not the accepting lot, I'll never support this stupid ass decision of Google. And I'll die before becoming a shill. If you like it, good for you, the shills, not saying you are, mostly like whatever Google brings about without even giving it a personal thought, good for them, well not really but whatever.
You understand that the P Beta is not the final release and that Google actually throws stuff out there that they aren't 100% sure about just to get public feedback on it, right? P isn't perfect.. It crashes apps fairly often... But... you know... it's in Beta... If you don't want to deal with some things that aren't quite polished yet, don't participate in the Beta testing.
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No, i was calm. Just because i made one forum post seemed to look like i was raging, it has no relation with my personal life.
Like i said, I'm not the accepting lot, I'll never support this stupid ass decision of Google. And I'll die before becoming a shill. If you like it, good for you, the shills, not saying you are, mostly like whatever Google brings about without even giving it a personal thought, good for them, well not really but whatever.
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If this is your "calm", I suggest there are deeper issues you might want to look into. "I'll never support this stupid ass decision of google. And I'll die before becoming a shill"
ISSUES!!!
Also, for the record, that ISN'T calm. That's wound up over something
As stated above, this is Beta, and this is a testing environment. Maybe this environment isn't best for someone who doesn't like change?
For me, P has been great. Especially battery life.
I love how everything you hate is everything I love on P and why I'm never going back. I was just thinking who adjusts their ringer volume a few weeks back, guess I found the 1 person.
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If this is your "calm", I suggest there are deeper issues you might want to look into. "I'll never support this stupid ass decision of google. And I'll die before becoming a shill"
ISSUES!!!
Also, for the record, that ISN'T calm. That's wound up over something
As stated above, this is Beta, and this is a testing environment. Maybe this environment isn't best for someone who doesn't like change?
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Yeah ROFL, ISSUES, I mean yeah, with you lots. Someone who found issues with me preferring death than a Google shill definitely is the one with the issue.
Something should be be tried to fixed if it's not broken, old saying, but **** that yeah, those who don't understand who need to change their ringtone volume often obviously never went to office or meetings, otherwise this would not have been even needed to think as to the reasoning, FFS, damned 16 year old kids, what would they know about phone calls at first place, sorry my fault.
I sincerely hope Google will revert to old method, because it's simply changing how mobile phones should work, the very fundamental thing, and even for a beta they shouldn't have done that and apologise for the same.
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Yeah ROFL, ISSUES, I mean yeah, with you lots. Someone who found issues with me preferring death than a Google shill definitely is the one with the issue.
Something should be be tried to fixed if it's not broken, old saying, but **** that yeah, those who don't understand who need to change their ringtone volume often obviously never went to office or meetings, otherwise this would not have been even needed to think as to the reasoning, FFS, damned 16 year old kids, what would they know about phone calls at first place, sorry my fault.
I sincerely hope Google will revert to old method, because it's simply changing how mobile phones should work, the very fundamental thing, and even for a beta they shouldn't have done that and apologise for the same.
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They won't revert to the old method. They made it clear that this is their plan and its the number one request they had from users. You can revert back and just avoid updates or try lineageos if you prefer that method and make changes on your own. Most of us in an office environment walk in and turn on vibrate mode. I can tell you none of the people on my floor operate by turning down the volume. We all go into meetings and if the sound went off in the customer meeting even at low volumes we would be kicked out of the meetings. I travel 2-3 times a month and I've never been in a customer meeting where they left their phone on at low volumes. Again, its up to you to live your life how you want, but I recommend not assuming we aren't going through the same things. Anyhow, why don't you try switching methods? try the silent mode vs the low ringer. Is there a particular reason you don't like it on vibrate mode? Some of these things can be changed via apps as well. For instance, Tasker can automate your volume adjustment based on events and location if you want.
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They won't revert to the old method. They made it clear that this is their plan and its the number one request they had from users. You can revert back and just avoid updates or try lineageos if you prefer that method and make changes on your own. Most of us in an office environment walk in and turn on vibrate mode. I can tell you none of the people on my floor operate by turning down the volume. We all go into meetings and if the sound went off in the customer meeting even at low volumes we would be kicked out of the meetings. I travel 2-3 times a month and I've never been in a customer meeting where they left their phone on at low volumes. Again, its up to you to live your life how you want, but I recommend not assuming we aren't going through the same things. Anyhow, why don't you try switching methods? try the silent mode vs the low ringer. Is there a particular reason you don't like it on vibrate mode? Some of these things can be changed via apps as well. For instance, Tasker can automate your volume adjustment based on events and location if you want.
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Oh dear lord, I hate any type of ringing at all, back in the days when mobile phones were still thick as brick I never used anything other than vibrate mode, but nowadays these slim phones can't be felt vibrating inside pockets, so you must have the ringtone enabled. Anyway, that's not the point. A low sounded ringtone is still a ringtone, which you can hear, however faint but enough to reach your ears and at the same time not disturbing others, and for you to not miss a call, but vibration can missed if you are a bit distanced from your desk.
If ringtones were meant to stay at a static level, then there would not have been different volume levels at all! And how funny could something be when you can't control your mobile phone's ringtone with your volume rocker. I don't know which sort of users requested this, and I don't know to depth of daftness got into Google to approve a dreadful request like that. I am still more than confident that this will be reverted though. Stupidity lasts not longer.
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Oh dear lord, I hate any type of ringing at all, back in the days when mobile phones were still thick as brick I never used anything other than vibrate mode, but nowadays these slim phones can't be felt vibrating inside pockets, so you must have the ringtone enabled. Anyway, that's not the point. A low sounded ringtone is still a ringtone, which you can hear, however faint but enough to reach your ears and at the same time not disturbing others, and for you to not miss a call, but vibration can missed if you are a bit distanced from your desk.
If ringtones were meant to stay at a static level, then there would not have been different volume levels at all! And how funny could something be when you can't control your mobile phone's ringtone with your volume rocker. I don't know which sort of users requested this, and I don't know to depth of daftness got into Google to approve a dreadful request like that. I am still more than confident that this will be reverted though. Stupidity lasts not longer.
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you might look at getting push bullet if you can't hear the phone vibrating like a jackhammer on your desk. Just a thought.
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Yeah ROFL, ISSUES, I mean yeah, with you lots. Someone who found issues with me preferring death than a Google shill definitely is the one with the issue.
Something should be be tried to fixed if it's not broken, old saying, but **** that yeah, those who don't understand who need to change their ringtone volume often obviously never went to office or meetings, otherwise this would not have been even needed to think as to the reasoning, FFS, damned 16 year old kids, what would they know about phone calls at first place, sorry my fault.
I sincerely hope Google will revert to old method, because it's simply changing how mobile phones should work, the very fundamental thing, and even for a beta they shouldn't have done that and apologise for the same.
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Google needs to revert back because of 1 person.
gonna happen.
when you say you'd rather die than be a shill (who uses "shill" this millenia?!) - then you need to put the tech down. walk away, look at some tranquil scenery
I don't know exactly what I did that made this start happening, but right now every time a toast message pops up it stays on the screen for over 10 seconds. If there are other messages queued up then it will display all of them one after another each for over 10 seconds. I did a Google search and could not find a solution. Has this happened to anyone else?
I've tried everything short of a factory reset. I rebooted and safe mode and it still happens. I reset all of the application preferences, as far as permissions and that sort of thing goes, that fixed a few issues I've been experiencing but the toast problem persists.
Is this a bug? is there a solution? Can you adjust the timeout for toast messages? Are there any third party apps that change this setting on an unrooted phone that I unwittingly may have used?
Will I be forced to do a full factory reset to fix this problem? It's really annoying, haha!
thanks in advance for any help
I did everything including a factory reset and those toast messages still did the same thing, so I am thinking it definitely is an OS system upgrade problem!!! It is so annoying !!
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I did everything including a factory reset and those toast messages still did the same thing, so I am thinking it definitely is an OS system upgrade problem!!! It is so annoying !!
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I still don't understand if this happens on everybody's Pixel 3 or if it's just ours. if it's just a few people then there has to be a common thing that caused it to start doing this. I haven't thought about it too much but my first suspicion was SystemUITuner. did you by chance install that and change anything using it?
I can't think of anything else that I have had to enable permissions with ADB for on here that would have messed with the display settings.
I've been rooting every phone I owned since cupcake. usually owning more than one at a time because well that just makes your power level go up exponentially ... through carelessness and not reading what I needed to before purchasing my Verizon Pixel 3 XL, This is the first phone I've had in my life for more than a month or so that was a daily driver without root.
my point is, I really can't think of a reason why the timeout for all toast messages system wide would suddenly change to be 30 seconds long instead of three. I would have bet on it that that is something that you need root to alter. ??*
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looking at Google's past release schedule and also starting to hear rumors about Android 11 (they did put a system image up on Google's page but you cannot install it without an unlocked bootloader), we should start hearing official announcements about it soon, with beta1 probably end of April beginning of May.
Even if there are a few not annoying bugs I think it would be worth the upgrade to get rid of these toast messages covering all kinds of stuff that I need to be reading NOW! not in (in the case of three or four toasted pop-up great after each other) 2 minutes later when I've already Ben distracted and can't remember what I was wanting to be able to tap on that was under the eternal-1 toast message timeout.
it's very interesting to me that if you Google this problem there's maybe one or two results. I'm very curious what we are doing to cause this issue. if you or anyone from the future is reading this and knows This information please leave a little response or just post a link it, so maybe I can die happy having finally solved this riddle
thank you in advance
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I stumbled upon this after googling the same issue.
I'm not sure if we had the same issue, but I just noticed that it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
Although it should be on "Default" by default (duh), so if you didn't change this, it must be something else.
Just thought I'd mention it.
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... it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
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Oh my, thank you so much, I had the same problem and this solved it!!!
I wish there was a way to make it shorter than 3 seconds but from my research it can not be changed can it?
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looking at Google's past release schedule and also starting to hear rumors about Android 11 (they did put a system image up on Google's page but you cannot install it without an unlocked bootloader), we should start hearing official announcements about it soon, with beta1 probably end of April beginning of May.
Even if there are a few not annoying bugs I think it would be worth the upgrade to get rid of these toast messages covering all kinds of stuff that I need to be reading NOW! not in (in the case of three or four toasted pop-up great after each other) 2 minutes later when I've already Ben distracted and can't remember what I was wanting to be able to tap on that was under the eternal-1 toast message timeout.
it's very interesting to me that if you Google this problem there's maybe one or two results. I'm very curious what we are doing to cause this issue. if you or anyone from the future is reading this and knows This information please leave a little response or just post a link it, so maybe I can die happy having finally solved this riddle
thank you in advance
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Just an FYI, coming from AT&T prepaid 6 years during the covid party the depth AT&T is it has taken me 9 months to move to postpay. It is a corporation a complete morons above customer support. All my problems are met with an upsell attempt and I have bit once or twice in return I was kindly bitten all this to say that they put a Motorola one 5G Ace 64 4G ram in my hand and I have the same issue except might hang for 20 to 45 seconds it seems like 90 seconds! May well be. Obviously they're not translucent but the desktop or any operation underneath it will take a finger command if you know where the hell to push. I did not get it from Amazon but I was looking to upgrade to the 128 prior and post this phone and one of the main salesman there with Motorola America which of course is not a Motorola product it's just a Motorola name. The ruination of a long-standing pioneer groundbreaking company! and he wanted to know more information from me and wants me to become a free paid intern or some crap and help them figure out what's going on so there you go? I am sure I am not the only one and just as sure as I am of that, I am sure that the people that make them and sell them and talk about them all day to potential customers or two customers have no freaking idea what their products do.!!
metpet said:
Oh my, thank you so much, I had the same problem and this solved it!!!
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testbug said:
I stumbled upon this after googling the same issue.
I'm not sure if we had the same issue, but I just noticed that it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
Although it should be on "Default" by default (duh), so if you didn't change this, it must be something else.
Just thought I'd mention it.
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dude... thank you.
i dunno how leaving a toast message on top of the buttons you need TO take action helps but that is what caused, likely, or at least what corrected the issue for me.
Moto G7 Supra (Power)
testbug said:
I stumbled upon this after googling the same issue.
I'm not sure if we had the same issue, but I just noticed that it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
Although it should be on "Default" by default (duh), so if you didn't change this, it must be something else.
Just thought I'd mention it.II
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I can't find this accesability option on my note 10 + g975fd bubi know it was some kind of setting somewhere because I remember turning it on trying to see some message it waS throwing while I was setting up some Tasker task. Which makes me think it might have been turned on by option for a tasker action but I'll be damned if I can find it again. It's actually nice most of the time but lately it's been really annoying to me because it shows over the keyboard and most of the time an OK or cancel prompt. And like previously mentioned if there are ten of them its quite a long time to wait. And I also turned something on that does a toast every time an intent is launched so you can see how this has multiplied the issue. I think it's one of those situations like (in Tasker you can say launch so n so app, one of the potions is to make the app launch a new instance and another is to have the app not appear in recents. That's all fine gravy for that instance but nobody anywhere ever says that from now on any time you launch that app that it will launch a new instance and it won't appear in recents) whether it's in Tasker or from the Launcher or if you just switch to another app and back. It quickly becomes an issue when you are trying to enter passwords or watch Netflix and do something else real quick. And if you don't put 2 together with 2 because you didn't notice right a way it can be a brain bender trying to figure the little problem out. I'm thinking that's what I have done is set some obscure option for God knows what experimental task and now its stuck that way. But it's really not something I want to bother joã (Tasker de"sorry for spelling") with and he may not know anyway. But thanks for the thread and any other suggestions would be appreciated.