So I've read in a few reviews it's a dual sim standby (both sims are in standby for a phone call) and both of them are capable of 3g/4g at the same time?
anyone know?
reason I ask is in my country the 2g bands are closed so can't use any other dual sim phone (all of them force second sim to be on 2g)
I don't think both of them are capable of 4G for the simple reason 2 SIM from 2 different network providers = 2 IP address, and you need to know it's complex to make usable 2 IP address in the same time (MPTCP).
Then like on the OnePlus 2, you can only use one SIM for data and the other for phone calls/SMS/MMS in the same time.
The only phone that I am aware that is able to do 4g on one sim and 3g on the other is the mi5.
I am also keen to know if we can do the same on the one plus 3. I live in Singapore and 2g will be deactivated soon.
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I'm not expecting the phone to use data on both. i'm more concerend about just being on standby for phone/msg on 3g (or 4 if possible). Like using your phone blocking data on the second sim. I don't see why it's so technologically hard. 2g is soon to be gone evrywhere
I have tested Mi5Pro and it have first sim 2G/3G/4G and the second sim 2G/3G simultaneously (dual sim stand-by).
I have read in a review than OP3 also. I will receive mine next monday, i will test ...
thanks a lot. anyone else can confirm ?
I can confirm .. i have received my op3 yesteday and it is 2G/3G/4G on sim1 and 2G/3G on sim2 simultaneously. Sim2 is only for calls and messages.
Like OP2 and other phones, it is possible to swap sims and in this case, sim2 is 2G/3G/4G with data and sim1 only 2G/3G for calls and messages.
I confirm also that op3 is dual sim stand-by and not dual sim active.
Le_Matriciel said:
I can confirm .. i have received my op3 yesteday and it is 2G/3G/4G on sim1 and 2G/3G on sim2 simultaneously. Sim2 is only for calls and messages.
Like OP2 and other phones, it is possible to swap sims and in this case, sim2 is 2G/3G/4G with data and sim1 only 2G/3G for calls and messages.
I confirm also that op3 is dual sim stand-by and not dual sim active.
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So your SIM 1 is on 4G/LTE and SIM 2 can receive calls and text in 3G mode?
Yes but when call is made on SIM2, data on SIM1 is interrupted (dual stand-by)
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Yes but when call is made on SIM2, data on SIM1 is interrupted (dual stand-by)
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Is this by design? That seems like a very frustrating limitation. I would be okay with data services flipping over to SIM2 while on the phone there.
I also seem to have a problem of the OP3 kicking down from LTE to HSPA when I make a phone call.
Any ideas?
appletalk said:
Is this by design? That seems like a very frustrating limitation. I would be okay with data services flipping over to SIM2 while on the phone there.
I also seem to have a problem of the OP3 kicking down from LTE to HSPA when I make a phone call.
Any ideas?
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Yes, it is designed like this, like all dual sim except Asus ZenFone 2, Galaxy S4 Duo and few other models.
LTE networks has not "phone circuits" and call are made in 3G (phone connect in HSPA during call). This is for all LTE phones.
LTE calls are possible with VoLTE protocol witch is IP voice communications and not voice circuit.
For using VoLTE, the phone need compatible with this protocol AND operators needs to activate this functionality.
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Yes but when call is made on SIM2, data on SIM1 is interrupted (dual stand-by)
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While you are using data on SIM1, will an incoming call on SIM2 ring on the phone or will the call be treated as though the phone is off-network and be directed to voicemail?
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While you are using data on SIM1, will an incoming call on SIM2 ring on the phone or will the call be treated as though the phone is off-network and be directed to voicemail?
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incoming call on SIM2 will ring.
Both the SIMS can receive calls no matter which of them are used for mobile data.
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spritey176 said:
So I've read in a few reviews it's a dual sim standby (both sims are in standby for a phone call) and both of them are capable of 3g/4g at the same time?
anyone know?
reason I ask is in my country the 2g bands are closed so can't use any other dual sim phone (all of them force second sim to be on 2g)
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It is dual sim standby and both the sims are in standby for a phone call. Both of them are capable of 4G/3G/2G but NOT at the same time. 4G can be used only in one sim slot at a time. It can be set by going to settings > SIM cards> Preferred SIM for Cellular data. Whichever SIM you choose here will have 4G option. It can be changed from settings>Cellular networks > your SIM card > Preferred network type. (4G or 3G or 2G). The other SIM can have either 3G or 2G but there is no option to choose it. The only way is to click on 'Network operators' option from Cellular networks menu and choose a 2G or 3G service. Hope it helps.
I get 4g on each sim but you have to pick one for data but both are 4g
So if I have 2 sims, one for calls with 6gb 4g and one for data with 15gb 4g, when I finish the 6gb on 1st sim I can switch the data to the other sim via software? Thanks
Your right you can
Important about dual active
Le_Matriciel said:
Yes, it is designed like this, like all dual sim except Asus ZenFone 2, Galaxy S4 Duo and few other models.
LTE networks has not "phone circuits" and call are made in 3G (phone connect in HSPA during call). This is for all LTE phones.
LTE calls are possible with VoLTE protocol witch is IP voice communications and not voice circuit.
For using VoLTE, the phone need compatible with this protocol AND operators needs to activate this functionality.
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This is true, but you can also add to the list of "Dual Active" phones all Huawei premium phones:
Mate 7, Mate 8, Honor 6, and probably Honor 7 and 8.
They all have DUAL ACTIVE SIM CARDS, which means that you can have a call on SIM-1 and get a waiting call on SIM-2, then you can answer the call and swap between the two active calls!! I even tried calling SIM-1 from SIM-2 and it was actually ringing!!
Also more importantly, when using data on SIM-1, you can make or receive a call on SIM-2 without interrupting data.
That's pretty amazing, but with a major drawback (at least for me, it is): 3G/4G service is only accessible on SIM-1 slot!! The SIM card in slot-2 will always be 2G and would never ever access 3G/4G networks
This is bad because I travel a lot, and I always need to be able to switch data from SIM-1 to SIM-2 and vice versa. The only option I have is to physically swap SIM cards between slots, which actually ruins the whole concept of having DUAL SIM mobile
My guess is that they are actually using two separate modems, each one is dedicated to one of the two SIM slots, and only one of them supports 3G/4G connectivity.
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Your right you can
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so, you are saying that both sims are 3G/4G capable, but can be used for data one at a time, and can be switched anytime via settings ?
I have a questión, so if a dual sim phone have 3g/4g capabilities on both sims, is there a way to make like a failover setup such as if sim1 looses data the phone switches to sim2 data automatically and viceversa?
I have problem in my one plus 3 network issues both SIM are not working properly both SIM search for network frequently when I switched data no network can anyone give solution I tried all rebooting, factory reset, searching network manually.
I am from India and have two sim cards on my device.
Sim 1 - Jio which only works on the 4g spectrum and calls are over VoLTE.
Sim 2 - Vodafone which can work on 2g/3g/4g. Calls are not over VoLTE.
I have data packs on both the numbers.
In the settings when I switch my data subscription to Sim 2 i.e. Vodafone, the phone immediately enables 4g on Sim 2 thereby disabling Sim 1 because the Sim 1 only works on 4g.
I would have had no problem if the phone could just let me use my Vodafone Data on 3g but no, it forces the it to use it on 4g and therefore if I want to use data on my Sim 2 I can no longer user Sim 1.
Is there a work-around for this issue?
Ok, and advice appreciated.
Have just put a SIM in the second slot in my G5. Am running a Vaya SIM (voice, data, sms) in the actual primary slot and a Telstra (voice only) in the second slot.
If i select the Vaya as primary SIM for all three (voice, data sms) in settings it works fine.
But using an app (Dual SIM Selector) to select what SIM on a call by call basis, it wont send or receive calls on the Telstra SIM and tells me mobile network unavailable for voice calls.
If i go to settings, and set the Telstra SIM as primary for voice, data and sms (needs to be set for all 3 regardless no data plan on that SIM) then i can make and receive calls from the Telstra SIM no probs.
So both SIMS are active, and both SIM slots work with a 3 or 4G card. Have swapped SIM cards in the slots and all as above. SIM cards are good and slots both work.
What i was hoping for with a dual SIM phone was for the Vaya SIM to be active for making / receiving calls, SMS and data as normal, but for the Telstra SIM to be "listening" , be able to receive calls , and make calls when selected on a call by call basis.
Now,being in Australia and having had the 2G network shut down late last year (3 and 4G only now) i am wondering if that has something to do with this??
Anyhow, wondering if there is anyone out there who knowing more about this dual sim thing than i has any ideas??
Hmmm........did some checking and think my problem with the dual sim thing is due to the 2G network on telstra and optus being shut down.
Seems under the software on the G5, whichever SIM card that is NOT set to handle mobile data, tries to default to 2G as preferred network (under Settings / More / Mobile networks) and the "Preferred network type" button is greyed out and inactive.
Of course no 2G network when you try and make a call it tells you no network available. Sadness.
So, unless Motorola come up with a fix, or deal with this in their next update for Australian phones, i think i'm stuck on switching between SIMS, and NOT having the second SIM able to listen out and receive calls, which even if both SIMs share a radio seems a no-brainer capability to have to me. Have sent a begging email to Motorola asking if they have a fix / workaround and would they consider thinking about this for next update? Pretty much all i can do, although if there are other Australian users with similar issue wouldn't hurt for them to contact Motorola support as well??
Anyone know how to set up a "shortcut" direct to the SIM config page in settings?? App or widget for that??
Am hearing on the G5 Whirlpool thread that there is an update / fix in the works and maybe on the way from Motorola to deal with the dual sim issue (defaulting to 2G) on the Australian G5.
Got the below from Motorola support today. So, fix is on the way.
Good day!
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> We just received an update from our corporate team in regard to the
> network supported by the SIM slot 2 of Moto G 5th Gen. They confirmed that
> the 2nd SIM slot supports 2G network only. For operator who has shut down
> GSM/2G network, it will show no service, we plan to support 3G voice via SW
> update later this year, however we don’t have a firm schedule yet.
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> We apologize for the inconvenience it has caused you.
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> If you have any further concern, please feel free to get back to us. We
> are always glad to help in any way we can.
>
> Thank you and enjoy the rest of your day!
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http://ausdroid.net/2017/05/26/moto-g5-2nd-sim-3g-enabling-software-patch-tested/
Hey!
My network operator supports VoWiFi feature, which i'm using a lot. I'm traveling quite often and using VoWiFi i can use voice services using domestic prices worldwide.
I have dual SIM card phone, in the second slot i have data sim.
Here the question comes - is there any way to configure a phone to use VoWiFi feature over data connection from the second SIM?
Essentially VoWiFi feature requires just internet connection, so in theory such approach should work, but do not know if it is possible to configure the phone this way.
Would appreciate any help
Gentlemen,
Any help would be appreciated.
I do have workaround - to use the second phone, share WiFi from it and then i can use VoWiFi on my main phone. But it' super inconvenient - you always need to care 2 phones.
If you know any apps/solutions please let me know.
I have dual SIM and I am able to have Wifi Calling enabled on both SIMs at the same time.
However - you are talking about VoLTE if you're talking about using the data connection on the second SIM rather than a WiFi connection.
Again, however, this should be possible - I can enable VoLTE on both SIMs. It's under Mobile Data in the Settings app...
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I have dual SIM and I am able to have Wifi Calling enabled on both SIMs at the same time.
However - you are talking about VoLTE if you're talking about using the data connection on the second SIM rather than a WiFi connection.
Again, however, this should be possible - I can enable VoLTE on both SIMs. It's under Mobile Data in the Settings app...
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VoLTE is different technology and is charged in my case differently. That's the reason i'm looking for an option to use data sim that the main sim uses this data connection for the call simulating "VoWiFi" and hence use domestic rates for the calls.
As i said above i can emulate this with two phones, but i still hope to find a solution where i can archive that with only one phone.
I'm looking for the same solution. My note 8 is rooted. The best I can do is set WiFi Calling as preferred over Network calling, but as soon as I activate Data for SIM#2, I lose WiFi calling and VoLTE for first SIM. Very inconvenient. Anyone have any clues how to force WiFi Calling using Data of SIM#2 ?
For any of you on the Beta, do you not have WiFi calling or the enhanced menu in settings/ Sim & Network?
It's probably something with your carrier.
I have the Open Beat 2 and I run dual SIM, TMO & ATT in the US. In the TMO SIM settings I have WiFi calling settings, in the ATT SIM settings I do not. ATT does not support WiFi calling or VoLTE for BYOD devices brought to their network.