Hi!
If I understand things correctly, my Moto G5 phone is born with an Android OS version that only accepts 32bit code, although the hardware is 64bit?
Why did Moto do that? It sounds like selling a car with a 6 or 8 cylinders engine, and only use 4 of them...?!
And on top of that, I discovered they stopped updating that (primitive 32bit) Android 8.1.0 OS in February 2019...
Should I switch to a custom 64bit ROM? NB!: Stability and robustness is more important to me than fancy new features...!
I found 2 lists of 'Best ROMs for Moto G5'. The shortest recommends 8 here:
https://romsx.com/best-custom-roms-for-moto-g5/
So which should I choose?
NB: Moto G5 only has 16 GB.
Hero002 said:
Hi!
If I understand things correctly, my Moto G5 phone is born with an Android OS version that only accepts 32bit code, although the hardware is 64bit?
Why did Moto do that? It sounds like selling a car with a 6 or 8 cylinders engine, and only use 4 of them...?!
And on top of that, I discovered they stopped updating that (primitive 32bit) Android 8.1.0 OS in February 2019...
Should I switch to a custom 64bit ROM? NB!: Stability and robustness is more important to me than fancy new features...!
I found 2 lists of 'Best ROMs for Moto G5'. The shortest recommends 8 here:
https://romsx.com/best-custom-roms-for-moto-g5/
So which should I choose?
NB: Moto G5 only has 16 GB.
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You will have to ask Motorola for the answer to the first part
As for custom 64bit roms:
Lineage 17.1
Lineage mint (based on lineage 17.1)
ASOP android 10
Are the latest custom roms for this device (see dev section)
All will have the same issue with regards to camera/video recording not working fully
TheFixItMan said:
You will have to ask Motorola for the answer to the first part
As for custom 64bit roms:
Lineage 17.1
Lineage mint (based on lineage 17.1)
ASOP android 10
Are the latest custom roms for this device (see dev section)
All will have the same issue with regards to camera/video recording not working fully
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Thank you for your reply!
But what about ROMs that have been more tested in real life, where camera and video etc. work?
Yes - it is Motorola that should answer my first questions. I don't expect any answer from them... But others might have a comment...
Hero002 said:
Thank you for your reply!
But what about ROMs that have been more tested in real life, where camera and video etc. work?
Yes - it is Motorola that should answer my first questions. I don't expect any answer from them... But others might have a comment...
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All 64bit roms will have the camera issue as Motorola have not released updated camera libs
The roms I listed above are the latest roms which will have the camera bug minimised but you will still experience issues in some apps like only being able to take a certain amount of photos before the app freezes, camera not working in low light, green tint, video not recording/saving and so on. You can use various other apps but nothing is perfect and you may still experience issues
The only fully functioning custom rom with no bugs will be the 32bit lineage 14.1
TheFixItMan said:
All 64bit roms will have the camera issue as Motorola have not released updated camera libs
The roms I listed above are the latest roms which will have the camera bug minimised but you will still experience issues in some apps like only being able to take a certain amount of photos before the app freezes, camera not working in low light, green tint, video not recording/saving and so on. You can use various other apps but nothing is perfect and you may still experience issues
The only fully functioning custom rom with no bugs will be the 32bit lineage 14.1
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That is the most useful information I have yet seen about custom ROMs - thank you!
But according to https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/7-1-x-lineageos-14-1-moto-g5-t3611973 LineageOS 14.1 for Moto G5 is:
ROM OS Version: 7.1.x Nougat
Last Updated 2018-03-18
And the 'stock' OS on my Moto G5 is Android 8.1.0 updated in February 2019.
My intention was to UPgrade my OS, not DOWNgrade it... !
So THAT LineageOS 14.1 doesn't really seem relevant.
And on https://download.lineageos.org/ there doesn't seem to be a version for Moto G5(?) There are versions for G4 and G6, but not G5. (Neither under Lenovo - the actual producer.)
But thanks anyway!
Hero002 said:
That is the most useful information I have yet seen about custom ROMs - thank you!
But according to https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/7-1-x-lineageos-14-1-moto-g5-t3611973 LineageOS 14.1 for Moto G5 is:
ROM OS Version: 7.1.x Nougat
Last Updated 2018-03-18
And the 'stock' OS on my Moto G5 is Android 8.1.0 updated in February 2019.
My intention was to UPgrade my OS, not DOWNgrade it... !
So THAT LineageOS 14.1 doesn't really seem relevant.
And on https://download.lineageos.org/ there doesn't seem to be a version for Moto G5(?) There are versions for G4 and G6, but not G5. (Neither under Lenovo - the actual producer.)
But thanks anyway!
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Only official versions will be on the lineageos website
There is no difference between an official and unofficial version except the official versions are built on the lineage servers every week with any lineage side changes (not device side unless merged by maintainer)
However official versions have to meet certain criteria in terms of everything that works in stock rom must work in the unofficial lineage build submitted to become official.
As the camera doesn't work as it does in stock in lineage 17.1 it will never become official in its current state
They are listed under Motorola because that is the company that makes the phones
Lenovo is the parent company that owns Motorola
TheFixItMan said:
Only official versions will be on the lineageos website
There is no difference between an official and unofficial version except the official versions are built on the lineage servers every week with any lineage side changes (not device side unless merged by maintainer)
However official versions have to meet certain criteria in terms of everything that works in stock rom must work in the unofficial lineage build submitted to become official.
As the camera doesn't work as it does in stock in lineage 17.1 it will never become official in its current state
They are listed under Motorola because that is the company that makes the phones
Lenovo is the parent company that owns Motorola
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Thank you.
But I am not 100% sure about whether you are confirming that the stock ROM on Moto G5 is the newest available Android OS version where everything works?
Hero002 said:
Thank you.
But I am not 100% sure about whether you are confirming that the stock ROM on Moto G5 is the newest available Android OS version where everything works?
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Stock rom will be the latest os version where everything works 100%
All 64bit custom roms have camera issues due to no updated propriety sources
TheFixItMan said:
Stock rom will be the latest os version where everything works 100%
All 64bit custom roms have camera issues due to no updated proprietary sources
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That's sad.
So when I want to buy a phone in the future:
Which other smart phone brands will probably not leave their customers with 'a choice between plague or cholera'...?
Hero002 said:
That's sad.
So when I want to buy a phone in the future:
Which other smart phone brands will probably not leave their customers with 'a choice between plague or cholera'...?
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Samsung will have the most community support as they are the most popular phones
Google pixel will obviously have longevity
Xiaomi might be the best budget choice other than later Motorola models
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I have been using the Lenovo P2 for quite some time now. We have all received nougat on our P2 and we know that Lenovo follows a rather annoying one update policy for it's devices. Hence I believe the future of this device is faded, at least from Lenovo's point of view and would like to know which is the best official ROM for Lenovo P2 right now?
Define "official"... I think the only official ROMs are Lenovo's...
Latest to me
IshtaNoob said:
Define "official"... I think the only official ROMs are Lenovo's...
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A ROM which is capable of being a daily driver and has support from the developers
Tahir Baig said:
I have been using the Lenovo P2 for quite some time now. We have all received nougat on our P2 and we know that Lenovo follows a rather annoying one update policy for it's devices. Hence I believe the future of this device is faded, at least from Lenovo's point of view and would like to know which is the best official ROM for Lenovo P2 right now?
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Best depends on your perspective of your usage & requirements.
Though I'd say
Offical LOS 14.1
which is getting weekly OTAs & monthly security patches. pretty stable as stock.
AOSIP 8.1 by Shubham
almost stable may be better in feature than LOS, I've used it for quite a while but its SE Linux is Permissive which causes some apps non functional.
Beside these two i also used LOS15.1 , RR & other Oreo ROMs they are currently under development but can be used as daily drivers because all major bugs like volte, nfc ect. has been solved in almost all Oreo ROMs for P2. But again SE Linux is not Enforcing in these ROMs so you'd need to root to make some apps run.
It'd say you'd try yourself which suits your requirements best use it as your daily driver.
amansehdav said:
Best depends on your perspective of your usage & requirements.
Though I'd say
Offical LOS 14.1
which is getting weekly OTAs & monthly security patches. pretty stable as stock.
AOSIP 8.1 by Shubham
almost stable may be better in feature than LOS, I've used it for quite a while but its SE Linux is Permissive which causes some apps non functional.
Beside these two i also used LOS15.1 , RR & other Oreo ROMs they are currently under development but can be used as daily drivers because all major bugs like volte, nfc ect. has been solved in almost all Oreo ROMs for P2. But again SE Linux is not Enforcing in these ROMs so you'd need to root to make some apps run.
It'd say you'd try yourself which suits your requirements best use it as your daily driver.
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Hey! Have you tried out the pixel experience ROM. It looks promising. Not sure about the updates and stuff as there are not a lot of people talking about it on p2. Hence the stability and reliability of that pixel experience ROM is unsure. Here is the link- https://download.pixelexperience.org/
Tahir Baig said:
Hey! Have you tried out the pixel experience ROM. It looks promising. Not sure about the updates and stuff as there are not a lot of people talking about it on p2. Hence the stability and reliability of that pixel experience ROM is unsure. Here is the link- https://download.pixelexperience.org/
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I'm already experiencing pixel in LOS 14.1
amansehdav said:
I'm already experiencing pixel in LOS 14.1
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I believe LOS 14.1 on nougat 7.1.2. The pixel experience ROM is on Oreo 8.1.
Tahir Baig said:
I believe LOS 14.1 on nougat 7.1.2. The pixel experience ROM is on Oreo 8.1.
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Unfortunatily you can't use location in the pixel xperience rom
potatoman4321 said:
Unfortunatily you can't use location in the pixel xperience rom
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Is volte, fingerprint scanner working fine? Also is there any other issues or bugs in pixel experience ROM?
Tahir Baig said:
Is volte, fingerprint scanner working fine? Also is there any other issues or bugs in pixel experience ROM?
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I don't use volte,
Yes fp scanner working fine after encryption,
Not that I know about.
Tahir Baig said:
Is volte, fingerprint scanner working fine? Also is there any other issues or bugs in pixel experience ROM?
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Pixel experience is not updated for a while and it is not going to be updated, I think. You can go with AEX or Cardinal rom as these two have developer support now. Cardinal rom is official too, so OTA updates will be available. If it is nougat, only Lineage rom have weekly updates. :good:
Hi
I would love to start developing Rom for Albus. Does anyone want to work with me to try to develop the Pixel Experience?
Sounds great,but what a shame that I don't have much time
Tester
Crix.Ful92 said:
Hi
I would love to start developing Rom for Albus. Does anyone want to work with me to try to develop the Pixel Experience?
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If you need someone to test, you can talk to me. Telegram: +55 86 999416164.
maybe @dlproject and @Junior Passos and @davidsonsjesus and @rahulsnair are up for the task? What do you guys say?
pixel experience is awesome! i would love to have it and I'm pretty sure the community would to. Oreo or Pie it would be amazing. maybe it would be wise to wait for the release of kernels and such from Pie 9.0 for ALBUS since the current kernel is limited to android 8.0 but that would be you guyses call, if the current set of tools allows Pixel Experience to be experienced than bring it on! pretty please!!!!!
You can have the pixel experience rom using project treble.
But the vendor is outdated it. And the only man who is create rom on project treble is the developer from lineage 15.1.
In order to use the leatest version of any rom for excample AEX, Pixel Experience and other rooms the kernel must be update to the leatest security fix.
I was succsesufull flash AEX Oreo but can't update because to the older version of the security path.
Sectorian said:
You can have the pixel experience rom using project treble.
But the vendor is outdated it. And the only man who is create rom on project treble is the developer from lineage 15.1.
In order to use the leatest version of any rom for excample AEX, Pixel Experience and other rooms the kernel must be update to the leatest security fix.
I was succsesufull flash AEX Oreo but can't update because to the older version of the security path.
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could you please elaborate more specifically? I understand that project treble separates the firmware files in two categories, the essential (aka hardware) and the substantial (aka software), so we would get the essential of ALBUS and combine with the substantial of PIXEL 2, is that what you are suggesting? But for the "fusion" to work both firmwares must be on the same security patch.. is that what you mean or did I understand it incorrectly?
xcaninox said:
could you please elaborate more specifically? I understand that project treble separates the firmware files in two categories, the essential (aka hardware) and the substantial (aka software), so we would get the essential of ALBUS and combine with the substantial of PIXEL 2, is that what you are suggesting? But for the "fusion" to work both firmwares must be on the same security patch.. is that what you mean or did I understand it incorrectly?
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Yes. We have only one treble relase for the LOS 15.1 and the security patch is only to octombre. If you use version in augost you will have a bootloop.
I ask the dev in LOS 15.1 to update the treble version so we can use the vendor but he don't response.
I heard that project treble is way harder to work with then anybody anticipated and that it is currently a nightmare to be avoided. I say it's worth trying though since it's opportunity. What's the name of the dev? Ping him here in this topic
Crix.Ful92 said:
Hi
I would love to start developing Rom for Albus. Does anyone want to work with me to try to develop the Pixel Experience?
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SoonTM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3859477
Will there be any Android P roms?
Hard to say and if so it will be full of bugs so...
vlonebenzzz said:
Will there be any Android P roms?
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Well dude the G3 development is extremely slow, and you say, why you say that. Many others devices more older than G3 have p roms not free of bug but enough stable for dayli driver for example motorola devices, xiaomi and many others, if you go and check the lineage Os Page you can see there's no single Lg that have official support for lineage 15.1, even an older device like g3 have 8.1 through Crdroid and is smooth and stable at least for my device D851 variant. So conclusions the G3 development is practically dead, thanks to God for the devs that continue with the development, you know slow but is better than nothing.
I'm looking for ROM with Android 9 pie for moto z2 play device I tried several methods by GSI I tried the KVT and tried all but no ROMs like Lineage OS and mokee OS, resurrection remix OS and other ROMs work fine but the method by GSI gave fail and all say that date is corrupted wanted to know if it has any ROM available with Android 9 need help installing a GSI on the device someone from the forum can help me.
does anyone have any ROM with Android 9.0 running that can pass the rom link or some more effective method to install Android 9.0 on the device
Eduardo Bruch said:
does anyone have any ROM with Android 9.0 running that can pass the rom link or some more effective method to install Android 9.0 on the device
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I think the answer may be no mate. This device is getting pretty old now.
pjcons said:
I think the answer may be no mate. This device is getting pretty old now.
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even if it is old think that on the part of the manufacturer there was so much support and both the developers share think this device does not have a future so promising had a lot of abandonment of ROMs like Lineage OS and pixelexperience I think I'm almost wanting to change the device by another think there will not be much for this device since it is becoming outdated
Hello guys,
There is a lot of customs roms for our OP3T but why there is no Oxygen OS roms unnoficial (based on the latest OOS build) for our OP3T, since OOS is a very good os, i don't understand.
It's not possible ?
Thanks guys
There are OOS based ROMs such as theOne3OS, Experience etc. They have mostly been debloated versions of the official ROM with some baked-in enhancements like Magisk modules. There are no OOS ROMs based on Android 10 AFAIK. Not sure how difficult it is to port stable official Android 10 ROMs from other OnePlus devices.
Nixeus2 said:
Hello guys,
There is a lot of customs roms for our OP3T but why there is no Oxygen OS roms unnoficial (based on the latest OOS build) for our OP3T, since OOS is a very good os, i don't understand.
It's not possible ?
Thanks guys
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OOS is closed source - nobody (but OnePlus) has source code for. The non-OOS custom roms are source build (aosp and caf open source based). The OOS based roms are just repacks of the original OOS. OOS is no longer supported for op3/t - after OOS 9.0.6 there is nothing to repack.
Like the others said repacks are availible, if you want to try to run a newer oxygen os version than is officially availible you have the biggest chance with the unofficial gsi support route and a oxygenos gsi rom. But i don't expect it to work well so only do it if you enjoy tinkering with your phone and are an experienced flasher who has the neccesary backups.
OneUi is closed source too.
Why have old galaxy phones OneUi-costum rom from new galaxy Devices?
Keyvannn said:
OneUi is closed source too.
Why have old galaxy phones OneUi-costum rom from new galaxy Devices?
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Hard to say on this general basis. Maybe gsi.
I suggest you read the threads of such roms and ask the dev if those threads doesn't answer your question.
Then you can do the same for oos. I'm sure many people will appriciate your work.