Japan launching a new SIM free model XQ-AT42 - Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion

The difference is that it will have 12GB RAM and also a new frost black color.
The storage have also increased compared with the carrier locked models in Japan but the international models all have 256GB so it probably doesn't matter to most here.
The preorder has started but the launch date is 30 Oct which is still fairly far off.
Spec sheet is here, bands are listed
https://www.sonymobile.co.jp/xperia/xperia1m2/spec_sony.html
And a Japanese reviewer talking about the new model here, first half is about him mainly talking about what SIM free is.
There's also some spec up for the Xperia 1 and 5 SIM free versions which may not apply to international models
You can probably get the gist with auto translate closed caption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29r-Xo4EX5M

12gb ram, not 16
Would love to get the frost black! But yeah, the Oct 30 release date is so far off. On top of that, the price would most likely be high on eBay or something since this is a Japan exclusive. Loving that 12gb version though, especially that Sony is great with RAM management.

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[Q] Any news/rumors/info on the sim-free Galaxy Nexus 32GB?

So far I've only been hearing about the 16GB unlocked version, or vague rumors about the 32GB Verizon LTE version.. but absolutely nothing on the 32GB unlocked one! Not even rumors or questions, I find that pretty strange. For a phone that takes videos in 1080p and is expected to hold 720p movies for playing, 13GB is very limited.. I need the 32GB Nexus NAO!!!
Theres no new info on the GSM 32gb model. People are still waiting (semi) patiently.
I was going to wait for that too until I decided that the risk of it never being released at all was too high.
blunden said:
I was going to wait for that too until I decided that the risk of it never being released at all was too high.
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What? I thought it was confirmed and just a matter of time
gabster21 said:
What? I thought it was confirmed and just a matter of time
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There's no evidence that a 32GB GSM model even exists.
Chirality said:
There's no evidence that a 32GB GSM model even exists.
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That would make no sense from Google/Samsung.. why alienate all non-verizon and international customers from 32GB goodness?
That and the official Google page lists the SGN as 32GB with no mention of 16GB http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
gabster21 said:
That would make no sense from Google/Samsung.. why alienate all non-verizon and international customers from 32GB goodness?
That and the official Google page lists the SGN as 32GB with no mention of 16GB http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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That page also doesn't make any mention of a GSM model.
Thats the LTE version.
Google UK only lists a 16GB and Samsung Nordic stated they wont bring out a 32GB version in scandinavia.
Sounds to me they wont make a 32GB GSM version at all.
FISKER_Q said:
Thats the LTE version.
Google UK only lists a 16GB and Samsung Nordic stated they wont bring out a 32GB version in scandinavia.
Sounds to me they wont make a 32GB GSM version at all.
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Damn.. missed that! I'm so depressed
No.
It is my idea...in Italy LTE is expected in 2012, the same will be in other european countries. I think Google and Samsung are marketing the 16Gb GSM now and they will upgrade it with a 32Gb LTE model once LTE is available in our countries.
What do you think? Are you going to wait?
typical marketing strategy, sell out the low end stuff first, then push out a slightly better version as an "upgrade"
My theory is that Samsung has no intention to make a 32GB Galaxy Nexus of any kind. All they wanted to do is make a 16GB version. However, Verizon will not sell a 16GB Galaxy Nexus, because all their high-end LTE phones come with at least 32GB of memory (whether built-in or through a combination of build-in memory and microSD in-box). So if the Verizon Galaxy Nexus only has 16GB build-in memory and no microSD expansion, Verizon will be forced to sell it for cheaper than all their other high-end LTE phones, because otherwise customers might look at how it has half the memory of other phones at the same price point and not choose it. So in order for Verizon to sell the Galaxy Nexus at $299/$649 like their other high end LTE phones, they had to get a 32GB version. So Samsung made a 32GB CDMA/LTE version at Verizon's behest. But they have no reason to make a 32GB GSM version.
that's a sound theory, it makes sense from the marketing point of view
How much space are 1080p recorded videos alone going to take? Not counting all the HD content you would want to watch on that nice 720p screen, this is going to make for a seriously limited experience. This means for average sized high def movies (3-4 GB) you'd be able to carry around a whopping 2 to 3 movies!
And by the time an "upgraded" version comes in the form of a 32GB GSM Nexus, it will already be time for the SGS3. I just don't understand why Google would shoot themselves in the foot like that.
edit: nevermind, miss read
That's a deal breaker for me . I was really looking forward to this phone. But only 16GB? WTF? With music, videos, navigation maps, etc. that's not enough space for me.
I 've seen the 32GB version listed in a Greek website many days ago ( link ) , priced only 50 euros more than the 16gb one. If thats the case, no doubt i 'll be getting the 32gb one.
I was really wondering how they managed to get that device, since i haven't seen it listed, or priced, at other online stores. Anyway, i 'll call them and see what they have to say.
Edit: Mumbo Jumbo Gibberish. They told me to call them back in 10 days (thats when they say they will get the phone) if i wanted more info.
Bassarnis said:
I 've seen the 32GB version listed in a Greek website many days ago ( link ) , priced only 50 euros more than the 16gb one. If thats the case, no doubt i 'll be getting the 32gb one.
I was really wondering how they managed to get that device, since i haven't seen it listed, or priced, at other online stores. Anyway, i 'll call them and see what they have to say.
Edit: Mumbo Jumbo Gibberish. They told me to call them back in 10 days (thats when they say they will get the phone) if i wanted more info.
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They also have it listed on Expansys, I'm not sure if that means they're expecting it or if some kind of marketing ploy..
It doesn't mean anything, except that Expansys want to secure preorders and have marketing hype. Clove have already confirmed there won't be a 32GB version but Clove have been wrong about things before...

Which version for T-Mobile (US)

I'm wondering if anyone has experience with the various versions of the Zenfone 2 on T-Mobile in the US. From what I can tell the Taiwan version will work with the two main LTE bands as well as 3G for T-Mobile. Any experiences out there?
I had a TW, but returned it because of Bluetooth issues. It worked fine on LTE for T-Mobile in MO.
I now have a WW version and it works fine on T-mobile as well.
Where can I get the ww version?
Why not wait for the us version?
The US Version sounds like it might be tied to AT&T only, much like the Asus Padfone. If it is available unlocked, like the temporarily leaked Amazon page suggests, it will not be available till about June. Because Asus has not released any official details about the US release yet, it is hard to say for certain if they have an exclusivity contract with AT&T.
I bought my WW from http://eglobalcentral.com I paid for the expedited shipping and received it in two days.
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Why not wait for the us version?
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My girlfriend will be in Taiwan this week, so she can pick me up at the local price of ~$300 for the Z580 4GB ram 32GB rom version. I think the US version will be more costly (especially with 10% sales tax in CA). In addition I saw one source saying they won't roll out the high-end Zenfone 2 to the US and it might be AT&T only. Finally, typically US carriers don't allow dual-sim phones.
alose said:
The US Version sounds like it might be tied to AT&T only, much like the Asus Padfone. If it is available unlocked, like the temporarily leaked Amazon page suggests, it will not be available till about June. Because Asus has not released any official details about the US release yet, it is hard to say for certain if they have an exclusivity contract with AT&T.
I bought my WW from eglobalcentral I paid for the expedited shipping and received it in two days.
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Alose, did you buy the 64GB version for $347? (I can't link to it, but it's a quick search) It looks almost too good to be true. This version is supposed to be ~$330 in Taiwan, which means between shipping and their profit margins they only have $17 to play with. There are so many versions, I'm a bit weary of getting one that is "almost" what they said it would be...
Well im one of the winners of the contest on androidcentral.com and the version i won was a 64gb 4gb ram us version so there's a great chance that the us will carry the 4gb version in some form but no matter what region you it seems like a great phone
luxlun said:
Well im one of the winners of the contest on androidcentral.com and the version i won was a 64gb 4gb ram us version so there's a great chance that the us will carry the 4gb version in some form but no matter what region you it seems like a great phone
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Interesting. Thanks for the info! Did they give you any timeframe on when you would be receiving it?
JeffMetz said:
My girlfriend will be in Taiwan this week, so she can pick me up at the local price of ~$300 for the Z580 4GB ram 32GB rom version. I think the US version will be more costly (especially with 10% sales tax in CA). In addition I saw one source saying they won't roll out the high-end Zenfone 2 to the US and it might be AT&T only. Finally, typically US carriers don't allow dual-sim phones.
Alose, did you buy the 64GB version for $347? (I can't link to it, but it's a quick search) It looks almost too good to be true. This version is supposed to be ~$330 in Taiwan, which means between shipping and their profit margins they only have $17 to play with. There are so many versions, I'm a bit weary of getting one that is "almost" what they said it would be...
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Yes, I bought the 64 GB version. 2.3 GHZ CPU and 4G RAM.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info! Did they give you any timeframe on when you would be receiving it?
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I also won one from AC. The North American release event is on May 18th so anytime around that date I'm guessing.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info! Did they give you any timeframe on when you would be receiving it?
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On or before the 18th (the contest said that we would get them before release to review however their has been delays) but I'm 99% sure that the 64gb version will make it to the states or even the 128gb version but that might be much later if at all
alose said:
The US Version sounds like it might be tied to AT&T only, much like the Asus Padfone. If it is available unlocked, like the temporarily leaked Amazon page suggests, it will not be available till about June. Because Asus has not released any official details about the US release yet, it is hard to say for certain if they have an exclusivity contract with AT&T.
I bought my WW from http://eglobalcentral.com I paid for the expedited shipping and received it in two days.
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yeah only at&t carries the asus devices and the bootloader will be locked tight.
Does the one on sale on aliexpress.com tomorrow work with T-mobile?
I'm using the ze551ml TW version on T-Mobile in the US and getting full LTE speeds. Just remember that when the phone says 4G, that's what us American's consider LTE. Technically, USA 4G is HSPDA+, not full 4G.
So the phone just says H+ when you are using T-Mobile "4G" and it will say 4G when you are using T-Mobile "LTE"
I'm not sure why everyone is saying it will be ATT only, it's an unlocked phone......... The US version will have all bands for all carriers, as per the ASUS website. If it were going to be ATT only, they wouldn't include the bands for the other carriers. Plus they'd lose a ton of business, and this phone is going to be the one to put ASUS on the radar for the general public for phones. Would be extremely bad business to lock it to a single carrier when every single other version of the phone WW is unlocked....
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Does the one on sale on aliexpress.com tomorrow work with T-mobile?
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I want to know too ,anyone?
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I want to know too ,anyone?
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If it is the ze551ml, then yes it will work on T-Mobile. All of the ze551ml have the correct bands
20-20 hindsight. Was AliExpress a legitimate deal from a legitimate company?This was a deal linked from AA . This deal was for the 64gb version, after hunting around the 64 is harder to find than the common 32gb. After setting up to buy this phone last minute research caused me to bail due to questions of the legitimacy of the site offering the special.there seems to be 5 versions of the phone location oriented, China, Taiwan, us, European, and worldwide, any suggestions on identifying these characteristics? It would seem the European and the China don't work in the US. there also seems to be two versions of the four gigabyte at 2.3 or 1.8 quad core.the intent is to use this phone with solavei which uses t mobile towers in the US.
Also, is it possible to have a 2gb ram 551 ?
Originally ordered 2.3/4gb/64gb/silver 3 days ago off eglobalcentral and immediately after my order it went out of stock. Cancelled that order and just ordered from Aliexpress w/ DHL (up to 7 days processing + 3-7 days shipping time). It was still $10 cheaper with upgraded shipping at Aliexpress.
Alibaba is a publicly traded company and they offer full refund if the retailer screws you over. This was a front page deal on AliExpress. I would be seriously surprised if they screwed this up. Anyway, I will update once I get it. Irony is I already got my case/tempered glass from Amazon with 2 day delivery.
Excited to switch out my nokia brick to zenfone 2 on TMO USA! ASUS made me wait too long for a US release. I go on a long vacation end of May and need a phone/camera!
If you cannot wait to see what the US release is like, I would recommend getting the TW or WW model. I had a TW model and worked fine on T-MO, but returned it due to a faulty Bluetooth. I now have a WW model that I bough from eglobal central. With the new firmware, works even better.
DesiMaster said:
Originally ordered 2.3/4gb/64gb/silver 3 days ago off eglobalcentral and immediately after my order it went out of stock. Cancelled that order and just ordered from Aliexpress w/ DHL (up to 7 days processing + 3-7 days shipping time). It was still $10 cheaper with upgraded shipping at Aliexpress.
Alibaba is a publicly traded company and they offer full refund if the retailer screws you over. This was a front page deal on AliExpress. I would be seriously surprised if they screwed this up. Anyway, I will update once I get it. Irony is I already got my case/tempered glass from Amazon with 2 day delivery.
Excited to switch out my nokia brick to zenfone 2 on TMO USA! ASUS made me wait too long for a US release. I go on a long vacation end of May and need a phone/camera!
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Better confirm it's not the Chinese or Indian model you're getting because it won't get LTE on T-Mobile USA just H+.
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Does the one on sale on aliexpress.com tomorrow work with T-mobile?
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If it's the Chinese or Indian model then NO lte on Tmobile, no gapps either. Buy only TW, WW or USA models.
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If it is the ze551ml, then yes it will work on T-Mobile. All of the ze551ml have the correct bands
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Wrong!

What model fully compatible with At&t with 128gb on eBay?

Anyone bought g7 on eBay that has 128gb with 6gb of ram, please let us know what model and if you can posts screen shot it’s on att please help so I can buy.
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Anyone bought g7 on eBay that has 128gb with 6gb of ram, please let us know what model and if you can posts screen shot it’s on att please help so I can buy.
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That will be the G7+ which I do not believe has been released yet.
The LMG7ULM 64gb/4gb ram unlocked US variation is now shipping from B+H and BestBuy has them in select stores. This version has all the bands necessary for full LTE on ATT.
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That will be the G7+ which I do not believe has been released yet.
The LMG7ULM 64gb/4gb ram unlocked US variation is now shipping from B+H and BestBuy has them in select stores. This version has all the bands necessary for full LTE on ATT.
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Thanks I bought the bhphoto platinum, but I wanted to buy a 6gb ram 128gb storage,
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Thanks I bought the bhphoto platinum, but I wanted to buy a 6gb ram 128gb storage,
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Congrats on your beast, does this US unlocked of yours have any issues like backlight bleed? I hope to buy via B&H online in the U.A.E soon. How's the Platinum Grey compared to the Black? How are you enjoying it?
Its okay but I returned it, because of the 4gb ram, if you haven’t experience an Android phone with 6gb ram it is fine but if your old phone is 6gb and you are buying it, don’t because you will hate that apps needs tokeep refreshing and loading from start compare to just loading instantly because it is just runningon the background. I will buy the G710EAW becaus of 6gb ram and 128gb and nowit is selling cheaper than the ULM usa model $650 only, and this phone have wireless charging, water proof and super LCD, I do uber and tried amoled and oled samsung s9+ and pixel 2 xl, working 3 days a week 12-14hrs a day no turningoff the phone continuesly, the oled not even one month burn in screen, the s9+ close to2 months bad burn in. That is why i am staying with lcd, and this g7 lcd is comparable to samsung s9+

Will this be a good model to buy?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/253816928507
I want to root my device so the Korean versions are good right?
Also I'd like the 6GB of RAM, but don't really need 256GB storage. The seller says 6GB of RAM but I've never seen a model with 6GB of ram +64GB storage so do you think this is a mistake? If I can save $100 there it would be good
Also, does anyone know how to obtain eBay coupons? Seen people mention them but haven't found one myself..
Thanks!
If you check the Samsung's Korea website
https://www.samsung.com/sec/event/galaxytabs4_launching/
You can see the 64G LTE version with 6GB memory. And at there site, I believe there are some discount or free gift, but I don't understand Korea language, so can't tell the detail.
xiangyou said:
If you check the Samsung's Korea website
https://www.samsung.com/sec/event/galaxytabs4_launching/
You can see the 64G LTE version with 6GB memory. And at there site, I believe there are some discount or free gift, but I don't understand Korea language, so can't tell the detail.
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Thanks I bought it and hopefully here Friday. The seller confirmed, definitely 6 GB ram. ?

[DISCUSSION] Shall we expect Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals?

I was looking at possibly purchasing the ROG Phone II soon, but Black Friday and Cyber Monday will be right around the corner by the time I know for sure. This would be the first time I've considered Asus, so I'm wondering if I should hold off until those sales, or if any sale would be worth waiting for. I looked at some of last year's sales from them, and it looked like most prices were $50-100 off similar priced products, and I didn't see any that included the original ROG Phone.
Should we expect more of the same with sales that aren't all that special, or is there a chance they could surprise us with something worth waiting for?
I'm keeping my eye on this while I wait for any surprise Black Friday sales. I don't know if this site is reputable though.
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I'm keeping my eye on this while I wait for any surprise Black Friday sales. I don't know if this site is reputable though.
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From what I've read, that site is reputable in that you'll get your product, but understand what you're getting. They are falsely advertising that this is an international version. In reality, they are selling the spec limited China Tencent version that's been "unlocked" (their wording, which I'm assuming means had the global ROM flashed). You can tell by the lower 128 GB/8 GB specs and their sample photos even show the Tencent logo on the back. For us in the U.S, that means less frequency and carrier support than what little the true NA version has, and no warranty because it's a grey market item that's been tampered with.
I know a lot of U.S. users have the Tencent version, flashed it to the global ROM, and are happy with it despite its limitations, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. After learning more about the whole GSM/VoLTE issue since I made this thread, I'm having a hard time even recommending the NA version to anyone in the U.S. I've pretty much decided I'm not going to be getting it.
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I'm keeping my eye on this while I wait for any surprise Black Friday sales. I don't know if this site is reputable though.
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Gear best seems pretty reputable.
Other user is right though. You would have to send it back to china for warranty (through your vendor) or just hope asus will take care of you (which in my case they usually have, I buy a lot from them)
If I was considering the 8GB version, I would definitely try to look for the indian 8gb/128gb model. I think It says ROG on the back instead of tencent and has an all glass back instead of metal and glass.
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Gear best seems pretty reputable.
Other user is right though. You would have to send it back to china for warranty (through your vendor) or just hope asus will take care of you (which in my case they usually have, I buy a lot from them)
If I was considering the 8GB version, I would definitely try to look for the indian 8gb/128gb model. I think It says ROG on the back instead of tencent and has an all glass back instead of metal and glass.
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Something new? I want one for Europe... Spain, concretely. Where to buy?
For what it's worth, they do have a couple black Friday deals now.
https://store.asus.com/us/category/blackfriday
It looks like they are offering the Tencent version in the U.S. Officially now? I guess instead of improving the offering, they want to sell us a worse product that is barely useable on our networks. I'm losing more and more respect for that company any time I look up info about this phone.
Plus it's sold out. Have they ever had any in stock? Lol
https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-etc/1879-asus-rog-phone-2-8gb-128gb.html
Pretty much the lowest price I have seen so far. Gearbest, AliExpress, banggood - all those stores have higher prices at this moment.
Maczuga said:
https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-etc/1879-asus-rog-phone-2-8gb-128gb.html
Pretty much the lowest price I have seen so far. Gearbest, AliExpress, banggood - all those stores have higher prices at this moment.
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That's the China Tencent version, which I wouldn't take even if it was free. The NA version is already obsolete by design with limited band support and no VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling, so why would I want something worse than that?
I do need to correct myself, though. The Asus black Friday page is selling the original ROG phone, not the ROG phone 2.
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That's the China Tencent version, which I wouldn't take even if it was free. The NA version is already obsolete by design with limited band support and no VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling, so why would I want something worse than that?
I do need to correct myself, though. The Asus black Friday page is selling the original ROG phone, not the ROG phone 2.
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I do not care about the design, both functions you have mentioned are not supported by my mobile provider and it supports all bands here, so I guess it's just up for personal preferences.
Most people I have contacted in EU are getting the Tencent version, it just gives us most of stuff we need.
Maczuga said:
I do not care about the design, both functions you have mentioned are not supported by my mobile provider and it supports all bands here, so I guess it's just up for personal preferences.
Most people I have contacted in EU are getting the Tencent version, it just gives us most of stuff we need.
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I see on your profile that you are in Poland. Black Friday is a U.S. retail event, so that's why this thread is focused on the North American version of the phone. I understand you have different priorities, but our GSM networks are scheduled to be shut down within the useable life of the phone. At that time, the ROG Phone 2 will no longer be able to make a phone call in the U.S. The only way to make calls would be through VoLTE, which Asus has said they don't intend to enable on the NA version. It's not a personal preference issue here, it's a basic usability problem.
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I see on your profile that you are in Poland. Black Friday is a U.S. retail event, so that's why this thread is focused on the North American version of the phone. I understand you have different priorities, but our GSM networks are scheduled to be shut down within the useable life of the phone. At that time, the ROG Phone 2 will no longer be able to make a phone call in the U.S. The only way to make calls would be through VoLTE, which Asus has said they don't intend to enable on the NA version. It's not a personal preference issue here, it's a basic usability problem.
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That's right. But the Black Friday is now much more popular in other countries (althrough the deals are not somehow interesting, mostly fake discounts), that surely wasn't a thing some years ago. However, there was 1 person from EU asking about Black Friday deals too, so I just wanted to point to some available discounts.
Didn't know about the scheduled network shutdown in US, that explains why US buyers avoid the Tencent version.
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That's right. But the Black Friday is now much more popular in other countries (althrough the deals are not somehow interesting, mostly fake discounts), that surely wasn't a thing some years ago. However, there was 1 person from EU asking about Black Friday deals too, so I just wanted to point to some available discounts.
Didn't know about the scheduled network shutdown in US, that explains why US buyers avoid the Tencent version.
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And I didn't realize Black Friday was a thing elsewhere now. Hopefully it's not as violent as it sometimes is here in the states. XD

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