a point
Why on earth the phone
redmi note 7 pro which have snapdragon 675 and antutu of 210,000 can play pubg on 61.2 fps after screen overclocking and no heat after 1 hour of playing pubg
But the
Samsung S9+ with snapdragon 845 and antutu of 345,000 and a GPU that has more than 4 times the performance of the snapdragon 675 in antutu and after only half an hour it can't sustain 40 fps and a heat degree that can cook eggs on the frame of the device
Not even taking about battery life
The request
To make it short
Iam not a developer (too bad)
So I wish if some awesome developer can port one of these kernels
[Crimson Kernel] or [Hydra+ Kernel]
The reason
Again to make it short
225%-245% performance increase
Noticeable in gaming fps
More importantly
Way less heat while gaming
And better battery life
How on earth
Simple
Just see for your self the videos down below
Since the s9+ have Havoc OS
We need the Kernel
Please watch those 4 minutes videos
I'm sure it deserve your time
The videos
Links
https://github.com/uditkarode/crimson
From redmi note 7 pro
https://tweakguy.com/download-crimson-kernel-66-hz-for-android-phones/
The reason a developer should care
This device the samsung galaxy s9/s9+ had its last major update a month ago
So no major updates are coming to this device again
Only 2-3 security update left
So your work is what will write a new life for this device
So please help
at least comment or something so developers can hear us
I can confirm that this device has some problems with heat. But it's not what you think. Mostly it's related to the kernel thermal framework, which is responsible to avoid big increasements in temperature. You can think of it like a process that monitors heat and power. When a certain threshold of temperature is reached, thermal fw will throttle down the CPU/GPU freq until the heat is significantly lowered (that's not entirely exact, but it can be explained that way). I think that Samsung somehow messed up this in some way - because this problem happens on many S9 devices, even on stock.
This process is also responsible for decreasing performance in apps and games, because to archive lower temperatures, it throttles down power. That's most likely why you get lower FPS after some time.
The device's hardware itself doesn't require a power boost, because it has more than enough power to beat most games in high FPS. If you now would increase the kernel's power and freqs, you would only get higher heating.
We need whether a better thermal throttling mechanism, which can only be done via kernel. ALternately you can modify and tweak the settings to stay in lower freqs in order to avoid the overheating. For example a kernel module. Or, for easy use, FDE.AI and set it to powersave (NOT anything else! Because it includes a boost mode fdor CPU/GPU that actually increases the frequencies, which will result in more heat). But even in powersafe mode, it won't decrease your gaming performance! I've tested this a long time. However, if you know what you're doing, just tweak settings by yourself. Or look for another solution, like LKT maybe.
Another idea: Here's a custom kernel. It's up to date for now. The developer has stopped the support a few days back. But it includes the current security patches, so you can use it without worries. It includes a solution for the overheating issue. I didn't test it yet, but I will. Here is the link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...t/kernel-rz-kernel-samsung-galaxy-s9-t4081191
dtrail1 said:
I can confirm that this device has some problems with heat. But it's not what you think. Mostly it's related to the kernel thermal framework, which is responsible to avoid big increasements in temperature. You can think of it like a process that monitors heat and power. When a certain threshold of temperature is reached, thermal fw will throttle down the CPU/GPU freq until the heat is significantly lowered (that's not entirely exact, but it can be explained that way). I think that Samsung somehow messed up this in some way - because this problem happens on many S9 devices, even on stock.
This process is also responsible for decreasing performance in apps and games, because to archive lower temperatures, it throttles down power. That's most likely why you get lower FPS after some time.
The device's hardware itself doesn't require a power boost, because it has more than enough power to beat most games in high FPS. If you now would increase the kernel's power and freqs, you would only get higher heating.
We need whether a better thermal throttling mechanism, which can only be done via kernel. ALternately you can modify and tweak the settings to stay in lower freqs in order to avoid the overheating. For example a kernel module. Or, for easy use, FDE.AI and set it to powersave (NOT anything else! Because it includes a boost mode fdor CPU/GPU that actually increases the frequencies, which will result in more heat). But even in powersafe mode, it won't decrease your gaming performance! I've tested this a long time. However, if you know what you're doing, just tweak settings by yourself. Or look for another solution, like LKT maybe.
Another idea: Here's a custom kernel. It's up to date for now. The developer has stopped the support a few days back. But it includes the current security patches, so you can use it without worries. It includes a solution for the overheating issue. I didn't test it yet, but I will. Here is the link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...t/kernel-rz-kernel-samsung-galaxy-s9-t4081191
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First thanks for replying
And
Not talking as a developer but
Samsung firmware and maybe kernel focuses on security and nox integration and alot of unused features for many people
And to your knowledge how the redmi note 7 pro can jump from 26 fps to 62 fps and less heat by only changing the Kernel to Crimson Kernel
That moment when I discovered that g965u1 has no bootloader unlock
???????????????????
TIP
I managed to solve the problem, I just did the following: I took root, installed a thermal, disabled battery saving for pubg, and run the game using the pubg gfx app. it was smooth I played + 1 hour without dropping frames.
Bruh
Oh thanks
The s9+ never needed half it's performance to play pubg on 60 fps
And still overheat too much
Look here
@mhmedahmed1996 Maybe instead of complaining here like a kid, you should learn how to code and make one yourself. The developers here work for free and are not vending machines where you ask for something and you get it immediately.
I know and I'm sorry
When I posted this thread I thought I will try my best as someone who can't code
Maybe test and send logs but now I discovered that my g965u1 has no bootloader unlock
You can't imagine how I feel now
erickgta222 said:
I managed to solve the problem, I just did the following: I took root, installed a thermal, disabled battery saving for pubg, and run the game using the pubg gfx app. it was smooth I played + 1 hour without dropping frames.
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What exactly do you mean by "installed a thermal"? At least for the S9 starlte I couldn't find any custom kernel with a custom thermal fw and I don't have the time to develop one by myself. So if you know something I missed, I'd appreciate to get it
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I installed a thermal module through the maginsk manager.
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I installed a thermal module through the maginsk manager.
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And what module exactly?
I've been searching that for a long time, but I can assure you that I never found one. I'm curious what module you're talking about.
Edit: well, whether you've installed something that is doing something entirely different - like disabling thermal throttling. Those do exist.
or it's for another device - there is a thermal mod for Xiaomi phones. But it actually tweak TFW for less throttling to increase performance.
Or there is a module that can only be found by getting a certain link, which is hidden to the public - but why would that be?
Or it's just nonsense.
I'd appreciate it if you could post a link to that module.
Otherwise I'll end up developing one for myself (maybe, if I have enough time! Because first I'd have to get more knowledge about how to develop kernel modules for magisk, that are compatible with my device. I developed custom kernel for OMAP4 devices a few years ago. But that's a little different I suppose... And it wasn't magisk.)
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You'll have to hack it together but here's the source code.
GitHub - MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource at violet-q-oss
Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource. Contribute to MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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Hey guys i saw this video on youtube (http://youtu.be/5nrOWZUsEEc) that explains that undervolting wont make your phone save battery life more than 2% even with EXUV. I need explanations for this as i don't really understand.
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys i saw this video on youtube (http://youtu.be/5nrOWZUsEEc) that explains that undervolting wont make your phone save battery life more than 2% even with EXUV. I need explanations for this as i don't really understand.
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What part of "you won't save more than 2%" you didn't understand?
ilusi0n_ said:
What part of "you won't save more than 2%" you didn't understand?
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Well, i don't really understand WHY it doesn't save more than 2% of the battery life. Afaik, EXUV does reduce heat and improve battery life by miles. But that's what I thought. In reality which is this, im not rly sure why that even with EXUV, it still cant save more than 2% of the battery life.
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys i saw this video on youtube (http://youtu.be/5nrOWZUsEEc) that explains that undervolting wont make your phone save battery life more than 2% even with EXUV. I need explanations for this as i don't really understand.
Via the Internet
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I'm not technically expert with things like this but I have read an article/ blog before that undervolting may damage a phone since it was designed to work with that specific voltage. So, I actually didn't do that even UC or OC. Just saying.....
Undervolting doesn't save battery as your CPU will still try and draw the manufacturer set levels.
If it doesn't get those levels it must step down its own level which essentially means that the activity that needs processing needs more time, and consequently, more battery.
Even if you manually adjust the clock speed of your CPU down to match your new voltages, the same applies.
UC/UV is quite simply the worst voodoo that persists across these forums.
/stripped down explanation
(I didn't even watch the video)
r25txe said:
Undervolting doesn't save battery as your CPU will still try and draw the manufacturer set levels.
If it doesn't get those levels it must step down its own level which essentially means that the activity that needs processing needs more time, and consequently, more battery.
Even if you manually adjust the clock speed of your CPU down to match your new voltages, the same applies.
UC/UV is quite simply the worst voodoo that persists across these forums.
/stripped down explanation
(I didn't even watch the video)
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we can control the hardware through software so we can control the voltages and frequencies through kernel
devs can put new frequency levels as manufacturers did (like this :https://github.com/Christopher83/samsung-kernel-msm7x30/commit/899d5a296a43a6d32c2468bba8121c3a1915dd68)
if its not true and if this method doesnt work, Why all kernel devs on XDA trying the same thing??
https://github.com/faux123/android_kernel_oppo_n1/commit/eaa6639979e1144f28c14e6de48994d41e5d20d8
https://github.com/franciscofranco/hammerhead/commit/104890313a73dae0e7d7a13975801cc568d231ad
in summary EXUV and UV are absolutly battery-friendly
and do not forget undervoltage cant damage the hardware but overvoltage(ı mean OC) can damage the hardware
sir mordred said:
we can control the hardware through software so we can control the voltages and frequencies through kernel
devs can put new frequency levels as manufacturers did (like this :https://github.com/Christopher83/sa...mmit/899d5a296a43a6d32c2468bba8121c3a1915dd68)
if its not true and if this method doesnt work, Why all kernel devs on XDA trying the same thing??
https://github.com/faux123/android_kernel_oppo_n1/commit/eaa6639979e1144f28c14e6de48994d41e5d20d8
https://github.com/franciscofranco/hammerhead/commit/104890313a73dae0e7d7a13975801cc568d231ad
in summary EXUV and UV are absolutly battery-friendly
and do not forget undervoltage cant damage the hardware but overvoltage(ı mean OC) can damage the hardware
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I've based my reply above on this post.
It is a much longer version of what I summarised earlier.
And, sorry, even UC/UV can damage your hardware in rare situations.
It does baffle me why people spend so much time tweaking things as you mention when the net returns are negligible, and often cancelled out.
So to sum all this up. We just have to leave the CPU & voltage tables alone since it damages hardware?
Via the Internet
It's not that you have to, but that chip designer recommends it.
r25txe said:
I've based my reply above on this post.
It is a much longer version of what I summarised earlier.
And, sorry, even UC/UV can damage your hardware in rare situations.
It does baffle me why people spend so much time tweaking things as you mention when the net returns are negligible, and often cancelled out.
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That was also the POST that I'm referring to that I've read :good:
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
Androsesp said:
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
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A57 cluster, probably yes. I'm also working on a kernel, but I intensely dislike Overclocking because it isn't all that useful. The key to performance is with optimisation, not with raw power. So I'm most likely not going to include it, sorry.
What about underclocking and/or undervolting?
I think performance is good enough as it is, but would like to get better battery life.
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
Crappy cpu. No point messing with it.
Sent from my A0001
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
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Hotplugging has been dropped not long ago. You'd basically need to reinvent it. Plus it costs more power than it would save
And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
yea i guess undervolting is the only benefit here coz 2 ghz wont be hard to achieve but getting that overheating msg sooner aint worth it...
next thing u know is accessory back plates with mini fans to keep the phone cool...
seriously tho what good is the extra power for ? the phone is already fast with the correct setup (not that i saw any lag when it was stock)
anyone knows how to see the cpu binning in this phone?
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And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
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Excessive Heat?
mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
Well, the overclocking is not necessary, but is an opportunity to know the limits of the chipset. Moreover, with it we could know if we can make undervolting to our phones and make it more battery efficient with an underclocking kernel, when we need it.
RedOCtobyr said:
A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
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Happens to me too when gaming. The problem I observe is that Indeed, it is not excessive heat. But LG thinks otherwise.
You can actually underclock using Kernel Auditor and disable cores. Unless you meant Undervolting.
mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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Wanna check out periscope and comment back ? Atleast I know that app will push the phone to its limits.
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Currently using Kernel Adiutor to disable both A57 cores and the phone screen does not heat up like before... Battery life has improved from what i saw yersterday. Continuing testing today. Only problem i have is the damn phone will enable one of the A57 cores after a while which i dont like. I need my settings to stick.
Any Kernel Dev know which files are causing this? Tab 3 had something like this but a couple of files changed solved the non sticking settings on cpu.
Overclocking/underclocking sure but just disabling cores would work for most.
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mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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lol, you're funny.
marcadam said:
lol, you're funny.
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I haven't had any popups or heat related reboots, so I was wondering what the matter is here.
On every phone I see complaints over heat so I wondered if something is to it here or if it's the usual. And if there are overheating warnings and shutdowns, then there might be indeed something in the bush.
Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
marcadam said:
Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
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That happens on every phone I ever had though. It's advised to not use a device while charging at all, so if you stress it to 120% while charging, of course it heats up..
@mythos234 is a pleasure to have you here (speaking as xiaomi mi2s owner too xD)
What Temps do you reach using cpu intensive apps?
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I am NOT resposible for any damage done to your device, your neighbor, or any other things you like/hate.
Introduction:
@oshmoun and I were in need for a custom stock kernel to mess with. Since all the available Options were not fitting our needs, or gave us bad experience on some aspects, and we knew about Zombie Kernel from Tom, we decided to start working on that. So I brought up support for the Z5, we ported Kexec to it, updated it to 224 and added various things. Since the kernel gave us very good experiences, we decided to make it accessible to the public.
About:
This Kernel is based on @Tommy-Geenexus Zombie Kernel. He was ok with us continuing/porting his projects, so oshmoun, and me started to create the "oshmoun Myself5 Zombie Kernel" aka OM5Z Kernel.
Features and Commit History:
Check 2nd Post!
Installation Instruction:
THIS DOES ONLY WORK ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!
You can either flash the provided boot.img via fastboot, or flash the zip in recovery.
Additional Information:
The Kernel is underclocked by default. Both Cluster are underclocked to 1,344/1,536 GHz respectively, resulting into HUGE Temperature improvements. However, due to public demand, V2 features the ability to disable the underclock (in case you need to make some baked Eggs real quick, whatever). All you need to do is run this code after boot (Kernel Adiutor has the abilty to execute scripts at startup, just a reminder).
Code:
echo "0:4294967295 1:4294967295 2:4294967295 3:4294967295 4:4294967295 5:4294967295 6:4294967295 7:4294967295" > /sys/module/msm_performance/parameters/max_cpu_freq
What it effectively does, is resetting the max clock limit for each core to the default (unset) values, allowing you to set whatever frequency (from the ones available ofc) you want.
Download:
For Dual SIM phones download the sumire_dsds Versions.
OM5Z Kernel (Release Versions)
https://dl.myself5.de
OM5Z Kernel (Testing Versions)
https://testing.myself5.de
Thanks/Credits:
Tommy-Geenexus - You can guess why
oshmoun - for obvious reasons
FreeXperia Team (especially Jerpelea) - for too many things!
CarbonRom Team - for too many things!
phaseburn - for being a good friend and helping me with almost everything !
infected_ - for help with SM!
My Big Brother Eric - for helping me keeping focused on Development!
My friend Silas - for letting me use his servers and being awesome!
If I forgot you, please tell me.
If you think we deserve a donation, I won't stop you
To Donate to Tommy-Geenexus:
To Donate to me:
To Donate to oshmoun:
PM Spam him to create a PayPal Donation system, he doens't have one yet
Thanks a lot to those who have donated!
Additional Information:
As you might have seen in my MultiROM Thread, some stock kernels require different Recovery Images than AOSP Kernels. We set an end too this, and fixed init_sony, rather than using some very outdated software which somehow works. This means, you might need to use a different recovery with this kernel if you're currently on a "stock" recovery. We're hoping that other stock kernel devs adapt our solution, so we can set an end to the old scripts.
XDA:DevDB Information
OM5Z Kernel, Kernel for the Sony Xperia Z5
Contributors
Myself5, oshmoun, Tommy-Geenexus
Source Code: https://github.com/Myself5/android_kernel_sony_msm8994_OM5Z
Kernel Special Features:
Version Information
Status: Stable
Created 2016-06-25
Last Updated 2016-07-16
Reserved
Latest Version: V2.0
Changelog:
Version 1:
Add kexec-hardboot
ramdisk: use init_sony, no outdated bootrec scripts
ramdisk: fix USB on Stock when using MultiROM
Remove broken Sony MHL driver
Update to 32.2.A.0.224
Merge caf/LA.BF64.1.2.2_rb4.40
Various CVE Fixes
Initial Z5 and Z5C bringup, based on Zombie Kernel with these features
Bug fixes for touchscreen / fingerprint / scheduler drivers
Stripped unnecessary debug nodes, legacy code and disabled KSM
Turquoise LED when EOC is reached (when battery is fully charged)
CPU-Speedbin visible in debugfs node (sys/kernel/debug/msm8994_cpuinfo/*Speedbin)
Calibrated JDI Novatek Panel to 6500K Color Temperature and 2.2 Gamma
Tomtom-Codec Digital Speaker-, Mic- and Cam-mic-Control
Underclocked both Cluster to 1,344/1,536 GHz respectively, resulting into HUGE Temperature improvements
Version 2:
Ability to disable the underclock (added on public demand) See OP for instructions
Removed TomTom Audio
Update to 32.2.A.0.253
Update init_sony
include DRM Fix by @tobias.waldvogel
Add support for sumire_dsds (E6633 and E6683). Thanks to @tOrNadO™ for testing
For a detailed Changelog, check the Github Commit history:
https://github.com/Myself5/android_kernel_sony_msm8994_OM5Z/commits/
sounds cool! I'll give it a try.
Does it works for z5 dual?
Brilliant work anyway!
is it possible for you to make a build for Z3+/Z4 ? as both Z5 and Z4/Z3+ are similar mostly and Zach's kernel is ported similarly.
Thanks
JerryLaiHMmmmmm said:
Does it works for z5 dual?
Brilliant work anyway!
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Yes it should. I was not able to test it, but we picked necessary code for compatibility with both devices.
GryTEcHoG said:
is it possible for you to make a build for Z3+/Z4 ? as both Z5 and Z4/Z3+ are similar mostly and Zach's kernel is ported similarly.
Thanks
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It would be possible, but I don't want to do that. I don't have a Z3+/Z4, so I would not be able to test things prior to releasing it. Thats not what I want to do. Even with testers, I couldn't guarantee on my own that things work, and thats not ok for me.
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Is ıt work on E6603?
Thanks for kernel
Lptrex9 said:
Is ıt work on E6603?
Thanks for kernel
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It should workflawless with all Z5 variants (E6603, E6653, E6633, E6683), I am only able to test it on a E6653 though, so please report if it doesnt work on the E6603.
Hi,
I've just proved that it works on the Dual model (e6683)
And it should work on E6633 as well.
Thanks for your hard work!
EDIT:
Oh……… No SD card detection.
JerryLaiHMmmmmm said:
Hi,
I've just proved that it works on the Dual model (e6683)
And it should work on E6633 as well.
Thanks for your hard work!
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Oh……… No SD card detection.
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Needs to be compiled separately for the Dual devices,
otherwise the microSD detection is toast
JerryLaiHMmmmmm said:
Hi,
I've just proved that it works on the Dual model (e6683)
And it should work on E6633 as well.
Thanks for your hard work!
EDIT:
Oh……… No SD card detection.
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Do me a favour and test if V1.1 here (https://testing.myself5.de/sumire/OM5Z Kernel/) works please.
Thanks in advance.
Myself5 said:
Do me a favour and test if V1.1 here (https://testing.myself5.de/sumire/OM5Z Kernel/) works please.
Thanks in advance.
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Good to see some development going on for the device..
What recovery should I use for this kernel?
Myself5 said:
Underclocked both Cluster to 1,344/1,536 GHz respectively, resulting into HUGE Temperature improvements
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I want a powerful device, so I'll wait until you remove this restriction, I even want a OC kernel as Zach's one did. I heard about your kernel a lot but didn't have chance to try it, on Z2 I tried yours but got Android is upgrading on every booting. But, I don't know what your kernel's aim to? Zach's one is aiming to as close stock as possible with fixing and improvement.
RyTekk said:
I want a powerful device, so I'll wait until you remove this restriction, I even want a OC kernel as Zach's one did. I heard about your kernel a lot but didn't have chance to try it, on Z2 I tried yours but got Android is upgrading on every booting. But, I don't know what your kernel's aim to? Zach's one is aiming to as close stock as possible with fixing and improvement.
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This kernel aims for the best performance and temperatures on the Z5. Its known, that the Z5 sometimes has heating issues, or turns off 4k Recording after short times. I needed to abort my 4k testings after a straight 40min of recording, not because my phone got hot, but because I was running out of space. The "extra" performance other kernels promise you, will result into heat and therefore thermal throttling, which ends up the same as Underclocking it slightly from the beginning, if not worse.
Also: @infected_ was one of the early adopters of my Kernel (before the release, he gave feedback and stuff). After the release, he asked me since when there is a Underclock as he never really experienced any performance drawbacks, so he didnt notice that there actually IS a underclock. (Let running Benchmarks aside here, we all know thats just for showing off).
GPU is running at full speeds btw, so no drawbacks in games whatsoever.
V2 (which will be completely reworked on Top of Toms reworked Kernel) might as well allow setting the default clock with tools like Kernel Auditor, but will most likely be underclocked by default again.
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RyTekk said:
I want a powerful device, so I'll wait until you remove this restriction, I even want a OC kernel as Zach's one did. I heard about your kernel a lot but didn't have chance to try it, on Z2 I tried yours but got Android is upgrading on every booting. But, I don't know what your kernel's aim to? Zach's one is aiming to as close stock as possible with fixing and improvement.
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Myself5 said:
This kernel aims for the best performance and temperatures on the Z5. Its known, that the Z5 sometimes has heating issues, or turns off 4k Recording after short times. I needed to abort my 4k testings after a straight 40min of recording, not because my phone got hot, but because I was running out of space. The "extra" performance other kernels promise you, will result into heat and therefore thermal throttling, which ends up the same as Underclocking it slightly from the beginning, if not worse.
Also: @infected_ was one of the early adopters of my Kernel (before the release, he gave feedback and stuff). After the release, he asked me since when there is a Underclock as he never really experienced any performance drawbacks, so he didnt notice that there actually IS a underclock. (Let running Benchmarks aside here, we all know thats just for showing off).
GPU is running at full speeds btw, so no drawbacks in games whatsoever.
V2 (which will be completely reworked on Top of Toms reworked Kernel) might as well allow setting the default clock with tools like Kernel Auditor, but will most likely be underclocked by default again.
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ill subscribe what @Myself5 said.
your device doesn't stop being "powerful"... does a snapdragon 810, 8 core device that reaches 1.3Ghz on the LITTLE cores, and 1.5Ghz on the big cores, stop being powerful?
image it as a car. let's say the "car engine" was adjusted for the best air intake/fuel intake/thermal handling.
you don't notice the underclock, the phone is fast, fluid, responsive, and excellent on the thermals.
make a test, see how much time you can record 4K (one of the most demanding and heating stuff on the phone) with stock kernel.
then try OM5Z kernel, and compare.
regards.
ps: you can even make a stress test with antutu (15m), and compare the thermal/core shutdown/frequency throttling, of both kernels.
Myself5 said:
This kernel aims for the best performance and temperatures on the Z5. Its known, that the Z5 sometimes has heating issues, or turns off 4k Recording after short times. I needed to abort my 4k testings after a straight 40min of recording, not because my phone got hot, but because I was running out of space. The "extra" performance other kernels promise you, will result into heat and therefore thermal throttling, which ends up the same as Underclocking it slightly from the beginning, if not worse.
Also: @infected_ was one of the early adopters of my Kernel (before the release, he gave feedback and stuff). After the release, he asked me since when there is a Underclock as he never really experienced any performance drawbacks, so he didnt notice that there actually IS a underclock. (Let running Benchmarks aside here, we all know thats just for showing off).
GPU is running at full speeds btw, so no drawbacks in games whatsoever.
V2 (which will be completely reworked on Top of Toms reworked Kernel) might as well allow setting the default clock with tools like Kernel Auditor, but will most likely be underclocked by default again.
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ill subscribe what @Myself5 said.
your device doesn't stop being "powerful"... does a snapdragon 810, 8 core device that reaches 1.3Ghz on the LITTLE cores, and 1.5Ghz on the big cores, stop being powerful?
image it as a car. let's say the "car engine" was adjusted for the best air intake/fuel intake/thermal handling.
you don't notice the underclock, the phone is fast, fluid, responsive, and excellent on the thermals.
make a test, see how much time you can record 4K (one of the most demanding and heating stuff on the phone) with stock kernel.
then try OM5Z kernel, and compare.
regards.
ps: you can even make a stress test with antutu (15m), and compare the thermal/core shutdown/frequency throttling, of both kernels.
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Actually I don't stress my phone a lot, but I need all tasks to be done in the fastest way, about 4K recording, I don't use it since I don't have a 4K display, but I can handle it by my custom thermal-engine (you can find it in General section). I belong to what kind of people, you know, instead of I buy a normal motor for daily and a powerful motor for long trips, I'll just buy a powerful one for both, that's me , I always choose a higher requirement thing for a lower task that it's required.
@Myself5 @infected_
I use this mod by Rytekk now for a while, and I have to say, sometimes the phone feels a bit warm indeed but I'm monitoring GPU and cpu temperature in statusbar with cooltool and it barely exceeds 65°c on intensive jobs like 4K recording and timeshift video.
(btw, aside from that, it seems timeshift video heat up the phone much faster than 4K)
So when our chip is spec'd up to 85°c as max emmc temperature, 65°c is nothing.
The phone might feel hot or warm but it's the heatsinking doing its job.
If it would stay cool on timeshift video it'll probably shows the message to close the app in no-time because it can't dissipate the heat.
In that case, the thermal paste between the emmc and the heatsinking isn't applied correctly or doesn't make enough contact.
But if it's applied correctly, and emmc runs up to 65°c, ofcourse the phone feels warm.
Imagine a boil of water, 60°c, put your hand in it.
Now my second point, I was monitoring temperature for a few weeks and what I noticed is the GPU heats up faster than cpu0 and Cpu1 almost every time, on every task.
So you might want to throttle GPU if u like lower temperatures but in my opinion, when emmc doesn't exceed 65°c, there's nothing to worry about.
Cheers!
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What RyTekk efficiently did, was adjusting the thermal throttling curve. This at no point however means, that the phone will always stay at the stock frequency. Effectively it will probably result in the same throttling as Underclocking the device does.
I know the whish of having the fastest things,my build PC has a i7 5820k overclocked to 4GHz, BUT that one also has a proper cooling solution, and is not known across the world as a easy overheating CPU. Until you show me a usecase, where you can clearly experience performance drawbacks (other than Benchmarks) I wont accept the fact that you really "need" 2GHz on the S810.
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Hmm, I can't show you so you just do whatever you think it's right, your restriction is just "masking" device that it's at 52 Celcius (JK :laugh: ). Btw, I pushed request, hope you would take a look on it, and also fix SD card not detected on dsds devices.
Can someone run a long CPU throttling test on this phone to see how heavily it scales as heat builds? The only test I've found online is https://3dnews.ru/assets/external/illustrations/2019/05/27/988154/sm.throttle_1.400.jpg, and it's pretty bad. I've seem comments about how this is one of the hottest 855 devices, and I dunno if you can use some software workarond like on some Xiaomi phones.
The test above was done using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skynet.cputhrottlingtest.
I've been looking for a strong phone to run emulators and my picks where either this or the Xiaomi 9T/K20 series. Screen, camera and development edged me towards this phone, but if it can barely sustain a gaming session then it's no good.
When I got mine I used it as a hotspot for 4 days while waiting for the flipcase I had ordered.
I was running both the 2.4G and 5G wifi hotspots at the same time, with a laptop and several other devices using it, and I also used it normally at the same time and even ran some benchmarks like Antutu, and it only got lukewarm at most.
Of course I have the E30 model with 12GB ram, which probably helps keep it cooler.
I'm still on Android 9 if that matters.
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When I got mine I used it as a hotspot for 4 days while waiting for the flipcase I had ordered.
I was running both the 2.4G and 5G wifi hotspots at the same time, with a laptop and several other devices using it, and I also used it normally at the same time and even ran some benchmarks like Antutu, and it only got lukewarm at most.
Of course I have the E30 model with 12GB ram, which probably helps keep it cooler.
I'm still on Android 9 if that matters.
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I found various results on Antutu and similar apps, but that only says about burst usage. If that image I linked is correct, after a few minutes the processor clock falls drastically.
If you don't mind please run the app I linked and print the result here. The default time is 15 minutes, but if you can manage a longer test I would appreciate. Of course you'll need to leave the phone resting during that time, so keep that in mind.
An example of a good result, ran on a Mi 9: https://i.redd.it/sh23onvimmq31.png. The phone can be used at full power without downclocking for a long time.
Here are the result. It depends on the temp on the sensor. It hit 90c when ran at full clock speed and it dropped to dynamic clock speed when it was hot on prime core. When it was cold enough it can boost to full speed again.
The environment temp was around 25c. Probably worse if the env temp was high
mickey36736 said:
Here are the result. It depends on the temp on the sensor. It hit 90c when ran at full clock speed and it dropped to dynamic clock speed when it was hot on prime core. When it was cold enough it can boost to full speed again.
The environment temp was around 25c. Probably worse if the env temp was high
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Thanks a lot! Finally more data on this.
The clean step is similar to the first slowdown on the test I linked, maybe from some governor setting on the kernel. There should be a way to either remove or relax the thermal profile if needed, but while a tiered throttle might be too overzealous at least it makes for less performance flutuation.
Anyway, overall it's far from what I've seem before, and pretty good on my book. Good to know. Are you on Android 10 already?
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Thanks a lot! Finally more data on this.
The clean step is similar to the first slowdown on the test I linked, maybe from some governor setting on the kernel. There should be a way to either remove or relax the thermal profile if needed, but while a tiered throttle might be too overzealous at least it makes for less performance flutuation.
Anyway, overall it's far from what I've seem before, and pretty good on my book. Good to know. Are you on Android 10 already?
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Yes, I'm on Android 10 right now. Every day use is fine but actually warmer than I expected. Especially when I do a lot of opening apps, switch between apps that ramp up the prime core.
XDFefo said:
Thanks a lot! Finally more data on this.
The clean step is similar to the first slowdown on the test I linked, maybe from some governor setting on the kernel. There should be a way to either remove or relax the thermal profile if needed, but while a tiered throttle might be too overzealous at least it makes for less performance flutuation.
Anyway, overall it's far from what I've seem before, and pretty good on my book. Good to know. Are you on Android 10 already?
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I found thermal config file in /vendor/etc
It use virtual-threm to set cpu clock speed in this snapdragon 855 platform based on current temperature.
This is the stock setting that I got from here
https://github.com/AndroidDumps/asu...0-release-keys/vendor/etc/thermal-engine.conf
Hello !
I've heard that it's possible to overclock our GPU to 905mhz by removing frequency table from dtb - when all frequencies are gone the chip defaults to 905mhz on GPU.
Now how do you do that ? I have no idea... Been asking around for couple of days and anyone that knows won't tell '-'
Most I've gotten is that dtb is inside boot ; some new 870's are locked and can't go even 1mhz above... That's all
Now make out of that what you want , it's rather conflicting info when there are reports that it works just fine one hentai os , even overclocks to 940mhz - Keep all frequencies just add a new one on top (940 MHz and edit voltage table for it to turbo 1 voltage). That's the best solution for anyone doing overclocking... You get to keep all other frequencies as well but it does not work on other ROMs due to hentai os using a different device tree to everyone else...
Hence why I'm looking into how to delete whole table to at least unlock 905mhz. I'll be using peltier cooler so heat is no issue I just want performance - its heartbreaking when 700 series chips can score much much higher than 870 simply because they can be overclocked unlike ours....
I'm all for overclocking and optimizing our chipsets, but do you have a problem with your phone?
Because for me, this chipset is crazy fast, and every game and app I throw at it, plays smoothly. I never have stutters in any game or app.
dreamytom said:
I'm all for overclocking and optimizing our chipsets, but do you have a problem with your phone?
Because for me, this chipset is crazy fast, and every game and app I throw at it, plays smoothly. I never have stutters in any game or app.
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I do feel the lack of performance though... Frame instability and not quite 60fps in more heavy games.
Even snap 888 struggles in certain games and considering that snap 865 already is able to meet and exceed perfomance of 888 doing the same on 870 will , well offer even better experience once heat is handled...
I'm currently looking for earliest rom for this device to see if it would be possible to do it there w kona but no luck so far...
I was also recently view a photo of the Poco F3 8/256GB and it was running at 1072MHz, the only information I had from whoever passed this photo was that it was from a Russian forum/chat and that it was only possible in the first batches of the 870!
I'll keep following it, if I find something, I'll let you know!
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I was also recently view a photo of the Poco F3 8/256GB and it was running at 1072MHz, the only information I had from whoever passed this photo was that it was from a Russian forum/chat and that it was only possible in the first batches of the 870!
I'll keep following it, if I find something, I'll let you know!
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That's crazy! At 1072mhz he must have surpassed Rog5's performance. All I am seeing is that it overclocks to 683mhz and that is it otherwise it goes into bootloop. What good is 13mhz anyways? Rather keep it stock then.
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That's crazy! At 1072mhz he must have surpassed Rog5's performance. All I am seeing is that it overclocks to 683mhz and that is it otherwise it goes into bootloop. What good is 13mhz anyways? Rather keep it stock then.
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There are many photos on telegram of people overclocking their 870 recently... Insane results , 99℅ stability and 25℅ higher scores in 3d mark .
Optimus drunk kernel + konabess overclock .
If anyone feels like trying post results here , if it worked or not... I heard somewhere along the way that it only works on hentai os even if your phone is an early batch model and since optimus kernel is based on utsav's kernel ( hentai os kernel ) , there's a good chance that installing it will allow overclock on aosp roms.
I don't wanna try personally for many reasons - optimus d kernel devloper sucks in my opinion, I tried his earlier kernel when it was based on quantic kernel and let's just say he butchered it and made something 10x worse... I think if utsav's kernel can allow for overclock you're better off using that instead lol
Might try later on idk , if anyone else does please keep us updated!
1. Install aosp rom
2. Install Optimus drunk / Utsav kernel ( search his name on google/xda and you'll find his kernel )
3. Try overclocking in konabess past 683mhz ( make backup first !!! Then transfer to PC )
4. If it bootloops flash backup via twrp / fastboot
Rstment ^m^ said:
There are many photos on telegram of people overclocking their 870 recently... Insane results , 99℅ stability and 25℅ higher scores in 3d mark .
Optimus drunk kernel + konabess overclock .
If anyone feels like trying post results here , if it worked or not... I heard somewhere along the way that it only works on hentai os even if your phone is an early batch model and since optimus kernel is based on utsav's kernel ( hentai os kernel ) , there's a good chance that installing it will allow overclock on aosp roms.
I don't wanna try personally for many reasons - optimus d kernel devloper sucks in my opinion, I tried his earlier kernel when it was based on quantic kernel and let's just say he butchered it and made something 10x worse... I think if utsav's kernel can allow for overclock you're better off using that instead lol
Might try later on idk , if anyone else does please keep us updated!
1. Install aosp rom
2. Install Optimus drunk / Utsav kernel ( search his name on google/xda and you'll find his kernel )
3. Try overclocking in konabess past 683mhz ( make backup first !!! Then transfer to PC )
4. If it bootloops flash backup via twrp / fastboot
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Rstment ^m^ said:
There are many photos on telegram of people overclocking their 870 recently... Insane results , 99℅ stability and 25℅ higher scores in 3d mark .
Optimus drunk kernel + konabess overclock .
If anyone feels like trying post results here , if it worked or not... I heard somewhere along the way that it only works on hentai os even if your phone is an early batch model and since optimus kernel is based on utsav's kernel ( hentai os kernel ) , there's a good chance that installing it will allow overclock on aosp roms.
I don't wanna try personally for many reasons - optimus d kernel devloper sucks in my opinion, I tried his earlier kernel when it was based on quantic kernel and let's just say he butchered it and made something 10x worse... I think if utsav's kernel can allow for overclock you're better off using that instead lol
Might try later on idk , if anyone else does please keep us updated!
1. Install aosp rom
2. Install Optimus drunk / Utsav kernel ( search his name on google/xda and you'll find his kernel )
3. Try overclocking in konabess past 683mhz ( make backup first !!! Then transfer to PC )
4. If it bootloops flash backup via twrp / fastboot
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Is there a way a to know if we have one of the early batches? I have poco f3 and havent even updated it to latest miui. I am still on 12.0.3 lol and man as far as perfirmance is concerned I am really not seeing huge performance gains over miui to be honest. Like there is this one youtuber who almost checks all roms and there are only some to trump miui in bechmarks and in Pubg gameplay the results look to be the same. It lags where Miui lags and performs great where Miui performs great. On top of that if we add bugs and the sheer level of dullness of pure stock android I dont see a reason to flash a custom rom( the super wallpapers and AOD on miui is great). I was really excited about overclocking though because it had insane performance gains one guy has posted a article on xda overclocking 865 to almost 900mhz and comes neck and neck with sd888 in gpu. I asked him about overclocking 870 and he said it seems to be not possible but we can try to disable thermal throttling and it will still stay below sd888 temperatures and will have the same performance. I do doubt it though because the real performance comes with overclocking and with only 683mhz clock I dont see it beating sd888 because if the device runs cool it can almost use 100% and even with full performance it wont beat 888 but thats what he said.
Bosstek said:
Is there a way a to know if we have one of the early batches? I have poco f3 and havent even updated it to latest miui. I am still on 12.0.3 lol and man as far as perfirmance is concerned I am really not seeing huge performance gains over miui to be honest. Like there is this one youtuber who almost checks all roms and there are only some to trump miui in bechmarks and in Pubg gameplay the results look to be the same. It lags where Miui lags and performs great where Miui performs great. On top of that if we add bugs and the sheer level of dullness of pure stock android I dont see a reason to flash a custom rom( the super wallpapers and AOD on miui is great). I was really excited about overclocking though because it had insane performance gains one guy has posted a article on xda overclocking 865 to almost 900mhz and comes neck and neck with sd888 in gpu. I asked him about overclocking 870 and he said it seems to be not possible but we can try to disable thermal throttling and it will still stay below sd888 temperatures and will have the same performance. I do doubt it though because the real performance comes with overclocking and with only 683mhz clock I dont see it beating sd888 because if the device runs cool it can almost use 100% and even with full performance it wont beat 888 but thats what he said.
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You have to try for yourself and see , if it bootloops it's not an early model....
The results difference is huge , wdym you don't see it beating 888. Snapdragon 865 already has practically the same performance , only loosing in cpu department. If you overclock gpu in 870 you are already leagues ahead off 888 - same cpu performance + much better gpu performance. All at the lower heat than 888.
Sadly no devloper is paying any attention to this. I digged up that if you remove any and all mentions in kernel about frequency table the chip will lock itself at it's highest supported gpu freq ( 940mhz + ) - this could possibily work even on locked devices? I have no idea , no kernel devloper that I asked even responded lol
You are on your own to try and get it to work , they obv won't
Rstment ^m^ said:
You have to try for yourself and see , if it bootloops it's not an early model....
The results difference is huge , wdym you don't see it beating 888. Snapdragon 865 already has practically the same performance , only loosing in cpu department. If you overclock gpu in 870 you are already leagues ahead off 888 - same cpu performance + much better gpu performance. All at the lower heat than 888.
Sadly no devloper is paying any attention to this. I digged up that if you remove any and all mentions in kernel about frequency table the chip will lock itself at it's highest supported gpu freq ( 940mhz + ) - this could possibily work even on locked devices? I have no idea , no kernel devloper that I asked even responded lol
You are on your own to try and get it to work , they obv won't
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I did overclock my SD865 gpu to 1020mhz
YuanYuzu said:
I did overclock my SD865 gpu to 1020mhz
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Well of course you did but SD870 is a different story.
Hello Guys,
First this first Snapdragon 870 is impossible to Overclock on Chip Kona v2.1 guys it is hardware lock on software just like Snapdragon 855+/860 is max 692MHz.
Yes we can now if you have early model with Kona v2.0 search for
Check dumpstate board on miui bug report
If kona-v2.1 then max 683Mhz.
if you have smaller you number table is unlocked on your Poco F3.
I have all info on Konabess Support group
I have telegram Adreno GPUs &Konabess Support group if you want know more this things.
Second don't do anything stupid like 1020MHz or anything like that Voltage Regular is design for 905MHz and can sustain up to 950MHz at MAX.
Most devices 940MHz gives better performance than 950MHz because of performance.
Third thing because of Voltage Regular from Qualcomm overclocking above 950MHz doesn't bring any new performance only lowers it.
You have to check for GPU stability by locking in Kernel manager min and max frequency and frequency you want test.
At that level even the best SOC get UI lag and unstable performance.
In real benchmark scores are lower on 1020MHz vs 925MHz because of Voltage Regular.
In Games like Breath of the Wild on EGG NS performance wins with 888 as well as 8G1 and fps stays the same 925MHz vs 1020MHz.
If you do anything above 950MHz you risk of bricking your device in couple of weeks.
You can't just add 905MHz at ridiculous high Voltage like Turbo_L1 which is 416mv will get massive throttling.
You have to design new frequency table and new frequency at good stable voltage for every device.
Adreno 650 at 925MHz or 940MHz gives almost 5700 points in 3Dmark Wild life.
In Gigaflops FP32 it beast Snapdragon 888 by 10% more raw power.
Adreno 660 on 840 MHz has 1702 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 905 MHz has 1853 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 925MHz has 1894 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 940 MHz has 1925 Gigaflops
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Rstment ^m^ said:
Hello !
I've heard that it's possible to overclock our GPU to 905mhz by removing frequency table from dtb - when all frequencies are gone the chip defaults to 905mhz on GPU.
Now how do you do that ? I have no idea... Been asking around for couple of days and anyone that knows won't tell '-'
Most I've gotten is that dtb is inside boot ; some new 870's are locked and can't go even 1mhz above... That's all
Now make out of that what you want , it's rather conflicting info when there are reports that it works just fine one hentai os , even overclocks to 940mhz - Keep all frequencies just add a new one on top (940 MHz and edit voltage table for it to turbo 1 voltage). That's the best solution for anyone doing overclocking... You get to keep all other frequencies as well but it does not work on other ROMs due to hentai os using a different device tree to everyone else...
Hence why I'm looking into how to delete whole table to at least unlock 905mhz. I'll be using peltier cooler so heat is no issue I just want performance - its heartbreaking when 700 series chips can score much much higher than 870 simply because they can be overclocked unlike ours....
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Pretty sure you can overclock the GPU with custom kernel alone, it involves you to take out some security checks which could be potentially "blowing up" your device if you mess something up.
However the thing about the 905mhz without table is something I've also heard for the SD 865 plus variant. I'll try to make some kernels without the table and see how the chipsets act on it.
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Pretty sure you can overclock the GPU with custom kernel alone, it involves you to take out some security checks which could be potentially "blowing up" your device if you mess something up.
However the thing about the 905mhz without table is something I've also heard for the SD 865 plus variant. I'll try to make some kernels without the table and see how the chipsets act on it.
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Send some updates when you do!*
YuanYuzu said:
I did overclock my SD865 gpu to 1020mhz
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Bro can u help me overclock my 870?
Bosstek said:
Is there a way a to know if we have one of the early batches? I have poco f3 and havent even updated it to latest miui. I am still on 12.0.3 lol and man as far as perfirmance is concerned I am really not seeing huge performance gains over miui to be honest. Like there is this one youtuber who almost checks all roms and there are only some to trump miui in bechmarks and in Pubg gameplay the results look to be the same. It lags where Miui lags and performs great where Miui performs great. On top of that if we add bugs and the sheer level of dullness of pure stock android I dont see a reason to flash a custom rom( the super wallpapers and AOD on miui is great). I was really excited about overclocking though because it had insane performance gains one guy has posted a article on xda overclocking 865 to almost 900mhz and comes neck and neck with sd888 in gpu. I asked him about overclocking 870 and he said it seems to be not possible but we can try to disable thermal throttling and it will still stay below sd888 temperatures and will have the same performance. I do doubt it though because the real performance comes with overclocking and with only 683mhz clock I dont see it beating sd888 because if the device runs cool it can almost use 100% and even with full performance it wont beat 888 but thats what he said.
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check your dumpstate on miui bug report and seach for a word 2.1 , if you see chip version 2.1 its a new version but i think the early batches is the one that doest have any design on the back cover just a flat color