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i have an Verizon s-off M8, My question is if is possible to convert (change CID/MID) in to a HTC Europe (with a last firmware). I use it only in gsm band. it is possible?!
Nope, as it's a CDMA device not GSM
EddyOS said:
Nope, as it's a CDMA device not GSM
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Sorry to ask this like a month later, but I had a similar question as the OP. Why wouldn't it be possible if I only wanted to use my phone in Europe on the GSM bands? I've been using it with a ROM for the international phones and it works fine. But I was also wondering if I could flash the newest firmware and 4.4.3 upgrade to use some of the newer ROMs for the international versions, like ARHD 10.2.
AmbitiousDonut said:
Sorry to ask this like a month later, but I had a similar question as the OP. Why wouldn't it be possible if I only wanted to use my phone in Europe on the GSM bands? I've been using it with a ROM for the international phones and it works fine. But I was also wondering if I could flash the newest firmware and 4.4.3 upgrade to use some of the newer ROMs for the international versions, like ARHD 10.2.
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HI! Can you give me more details? I've just received the verizon variant (bought from an online store) in Europe.. I would like to "convert" it to international version so I could get official updates from HTC via OTA. IS that possible?
DSF said:
HI! Can you give me more details? I've just received the verizon variant (bought from an online store) in Europe.. I would like to "convert" it to international version so I could get official updates from HTC via OTA. IS that possible?
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I don't think you can convert it over to the international edition, although I could be wrong, since some of the partitions, firmware, and actual hardware (like the CDMA receiver) are different. Given how buggy just some of the ROMs are with the int'l kernel built in, I would be worried about bricking the phone trying to actually convert it to be able to receive OTAs.
What you can do check out some of the ROMs that let you pick which variant to install. After you boot that up once, you'll probably need to reflash the stock VZW kernel (or read around and see if Verizon users got other kernels to work with the ROM). It's kind of trial and error. A lot of times I ended up without wifi or service until I found a kernel that worked.
For updates, (this part sucks) you'll have to wait for the Verizon phones to receive them in the US. Someone usually makes a set a files you can flash since we can't get the OTAs for VZW here and a lot of people don't want to go through the hassle of going back to close to stock to get them. Make a backup, flash those, and go on your way!
But, you'll have to follow the updates and such for VZW phones and then just use a ROM to make it like an int'l versions.
I've been running the int'l version of Paranoid Android and before that ARHD and it's been fine. I used venom and I think n8 before that but it would only install the VZW version so I had to use ROM Cleaner and take out a lot of crap. The roaming triangles were annoying enough that I gave up on venom even though I like the ROM.
AmbitiousDonut said:
I don't think you can convert it over to the international edition, although I could be wrong, since some of the partitions, firmware, and actual hardware (like the CDMA receiver) are different. Given how buggy just some of the ROMs are with the int'l kernel built in, I would be worried about bricking the phone trying to actually convert it to be able to receive OTAs.
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THanks for the reply. I think I will return it back.. I wanted a stock experience (eg: when HTC launch an update I DONT Need to wait for verizon to release an update).
I paid lots of money (~700$) for a contract free phone and got a branded phone (not sim-locked by branded is enough) . What a sh*t situation.
DSF said:
THanks for the reply. I think I will return it back.. I wanted a stock experience (eg: when HTC launch an update I DONT Need to wait for verizon to release an update).
I paid lots of money (~700$) for a contract free phone and got a branded phone (not sim-locked by branded is enough) . What a sh*t situation.
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Oh God, I assumed you got a Verizon one because it was cheap. I picked mine up in the US for $150 so I don't care so much about having to wait since I saved so much money. If you paid full price I would definitely return it and get an int'l one instead!
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Oh God, I assumed you got a Verizon one because it was cheap. I picked mine up in the US for $150 so I don't care so much about having to wait since I saved so much money. If you paid full price I would definitely return it and get an int'l one instead!
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Nope, the problem is that I wanted the 32 GB version and most of the online shops had only the 16 GB one. Maybe there is no international 32gb htc one m8..
PS: the retailer's product page (cel.ro) doesn't say anything regarding branding, even the photos are of a htc one m8 unbranded phone.
I am a bit late here. Can i flash a European custom rom on verizon M8? I want to completely get rid of verizon bloatware/services . If yes then while installing custom rom in aroma can i select WWE instead of verizon?? Summary of my question is can i use a WWE European custom rom on version M8??
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I am a bit late here. Can i flash a European custom rom on verizon M8? I want to completely get rid of verizon bloatware/services . If yes then while installing custom rom in aroma can i select WWE instead of verizon?? Summary of my question is can i use a WWE European custom rom on version M8??
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You should only use custom ROMs that specifically support the Verizon variant. If the option is given in AROMA for carrier version (and VZN is one of those), its got nothing to do with what carrier/region you are located in, but refers to the version M8 you have, which is still Verizon. But you should check the specific ROM thread for details, comments by VZN version users, etc. as devs don't always setup AROMA the same way.
This thread is really old (almost 2 years) and we know a lot more now. FYI, I know its not what you specifically asked, but the topic of the thread is converting to Euro version by flashing firmware, RUU etc. And quite simply and frankly, do not attempt to flash Euro firmware, RUU, or change the CID/MID to do so. Flashing Euro firmware on the VZN variant will result in a radio brick, and the damage may be permanent!
lot's of confusion right now. people saying us unlocked vs WWE and CID 01010101 or MID :silly: basically 2 things. Is there a guide to understand what all these HTC codes mean? and what ROM's can I flahs on my phone.
i have a htc_pmewl PVT s-on. thanks!
drago10029 said:
lot's of confusion right now. people saying us unlocked vs WWE and CID 01010101 or MID :silly: basically 2 things. Is there a guide to understand what all these HTC codes mean? and what ROM's can I flahs on my phone.
i have a htc_pmewl PVT s-on. thanks!
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htc_pmewl is the product version for North American HTC 10s
You can find your CID and MID in download mode. Also your current firmware version is listed as "OS".
All of those are identifiers for your model. CID combined with MID will tell you which model you have (US Unlocked, T-Mo, Verizon, Bell etc), but the firmware version is the easiest way to tell (at least for me).
The firmware number is broken into 4 parts. For mine it is 2.51.617.32
The first part (2) signifies the Android version. On the HTC 10, the 2 signifies Nougat (it increases by one for each version)
The second part (51) signifies the build version from HTC
The third part (617 <----the most important part) signifies the actual model of phone the firmware is meant for. 617 is for US Unlocked, 651 is Sprint, 531 is T-MoUS, 605 is Verizon, and 666 is Bell and 401 is WWE/Europe (there are more, but for htc_pmewl these are the ones that matter ~ 401 is added because you'll see that a lot here)
The fourth and last part (32) signifies the revision of the HTC build
Most of all that information isn't too important except for the third part. That is what you need to pay attention to when flashing firmware and RUUs
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Oh, I forgot to add, you can probably flash pretty much any ROM here. Most are GSM with CDMA (Sprint and Verizon) support added
xunholyx said:
htc_pmewl is the product version for North American HTC 10s
You can find your CID and MID in download mode. Also your current firmware version is listed as "OS".
All of those are identifiers for your model. CID combined with MID will tell you which model you have (US Unlocked, T-Mo, Verizon, Bell etc), but the firmware version is the easiest way to tell (at least for me).
The firmware number is broken into 4 parts. For mine it is 2.51.617.32
The first part (2) signifies the Android version. On the HTC 10, the 2 signifies Nougat (it increases by one for each version)
The second part (51) signifies the build version from HTC
The third part (617 <----the most important part) signifies the actual model of phone the firmware is meant for. 617 is for US Unlocked, 651 is Sprint, 531 is T-MoUS, 605 is Verizon, and 666 is Bell and 401 is WWE/Europe (there are more, but for htc_pmewl these are the ones that matter ~ 401 is added because you'll see that a lot here)
The fourth and last part (32) signifies the revision of the HTC build
Most of all that information isn't too important except for the third part. That is what you need to pay attention to when flashing firmware and RUUs
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Oh, I forgot to add, you can probably flash pretty much any ROM here. Most are GSM with CDMA (Sprint and Verizon) support added
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thanks for the reply, just seeing it. so based on my model firmware 2.51.617.32 i can flash any ROM or US ROM? also would I have been able to flash the firmware accidently and my phone is actually another model?
again the ultimate goal is to see what types of ROMs i can flash so I can see whcih will give me the best battery life. thanks again!
drago10029 said:
thanks for the reply, just seeing it. so based on my model firmware 2.51.617.32 i can flash any ROM or US ROM? also would I have been able to flash the firmware accidently and my phone is actually another model?
again the ultimate goal is to see what types of ROMs i can flash so I can see whcih will give me the best battery life. thanks again!
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Perhaps it could be changed if the phone is S-Off, but that won't really matter anyway. And the US Unlocked gets the quickest updates. It'll be the first model to get Oreo (based on every update released so far). And yeah, you should be able to flash any ROM for the 10. Any ROM I know of anyway.
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Perhaps it could be changed if the phone is S-Off, but that won't really matter anyway. And the US Unlocked gets the quickest updates. It'll be the first model to get Oreo (based on every update released so far). And yeah, you should be able to flash any ROM for the 10. Any ROM I know of anyway.
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even non US ROMS safely?? or would that require s off? i assume it will if radio partition and vendor are touched?
coming from a nexus 6p where these questions didn't matter lol
drago10029 said:
even non US ROMS safely?? or would that require s off? i assume it will if radio partition and vendor are touched?
coming from a nexus 6p where these questions didn't matter lol
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Non US ROMs should be fine. Most of the popular ones are actually based on WWE/Europe, but they work fine with US Unlocked, AT&T or TmoUS. And most of them have support added for Sprint and Verizon.
The OP on the ROM threads will let you know what is compatible and not.
I have a T-Mobile 7T 1905 converted to global firmware with an unlocked bootloader. If I were to resell the device I might want to go back to T-Mobile stock and relock the bootloader.
Is this possible? I gather that a full T-Mobile rom is not easy to find. Where in the process would I relock the bootloader. Tbh, after 7 years of rooting almost every phone I've owned, the 7T is a throwback to the days of my LG G2.
I won't be shocked if it's not possible to go back to T-Mobile stock. If I choose to sell the device I'll have to find someone who appreciates the superiority of the global firmware.
Just to verify, the T-Mobile model should be HD1907.
If so, check out this thread: OP7T T-MOBILE][OOS 10.0.10 HD63CB] Unbrick tool to restore your device to OxygenOS by Some_Random_Username
If you have the HD1905 (which is the international version) I'm a big fan of:
[OP7T] TOOL ALL IN ONE (Drivers|Unlock|TWRP|Factory Image|Stock Recovery) by mauronofrio
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brisseau said:
Just to verify, the T-Mobile model should be HD1907.
If so, check out this thread: OP7T T-MOBILE][OOS 10.0.10 HD63CB] Unbrick tool to restore your device to OxygenOS by Some_Random_Username
If you have the HD1905 (which is the international version) I'm a big fan of:
[OP7T] TOOL ALL IN ONE (Drivers|Unlock|TWRP|Factory Image|Stock Recovery) by mauronofrio
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Yes, sorry. I should have said I have the 1907. I'll look into the unbrick tool. It sounds like what I need. Thanks.
It is very possible to go back to stock T-Mobile and bootloader locked as I have done so a number of times. Just use the same tool with files that is used to unlock and flash the 1905 version. I'm presently on my phone but will help out tomorrow if needed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/t-mobile-7t-conversion-to-international-t4153943
This will get you all the tools you need to get back to stock.
I also am on the converted TMobile --> International firmware. I was about to begin my search for this as well with the 8T pre-orders starting tomorrow. Bummer they aren't offering a trade-in for the 7T (or anything, for that matter). Looks like private sale is the only option.
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I also am on the converted TMobile --> International firmware. I was about to begin my search for this as well with the 8T pre-orders starting tomorrow. Bummer they aren't offering a trade-in for the 7T (or anything, for that matter). Looks like private sale is the only option.
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I wish you luck. With Craigslist unappealing due to covid, Swappa is the best option. But there is a flood of these 1907s from business resellers, both sim locked and unlocked, all with T-Mobile firmware. None of them are selling the 7T with the warp charger, which is $30 if you can find it. So individual sellers offering all accessories stand out. Otoh, B&H is clearing out new unbranded 1907s, sim unlocked with global sw for $399. I would wait until B&H is sold out and then get yours sold before the B&H "special editions" start hitting the used market.
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I've read thread after thread and as best I can tell there is an EU version, a global version, an India version, and the T-Mobile version. The radios on the non-T-Mobile versions are different than the T-Mobile version (or so it seems).
What I have is a OnePlus Nine Pro from Amazon, fully unlocked, T-Mobile version. Works fine for me on T-Mobile. What I want is the unlocked firmware, as if I bought it in the US directly from OnePlus. Like the Nine that I got directly from OnePlus that I am returning because I want the telephoto lens and a couple other improvements the Pro has.
Since someone may ask, here is why:
Avoid bright magenta startup screen
Get patches more quickly
Get round icons
Debloated (esp. Qualcomm)
The feel of the phone, to me, is less than the Nine with stock unlocked firmware
The dialer is better on stock OOS 12
I don't want to lose the radio, I don't need an International version, I plan to stick with T-Mobile, so it seems like it should be easy, but I can't find the firmware. If the global version is the same as the unlocked, fine, but do I have to do weird things to keep the US compatible radio (like I read in various threads)?
Hardware version 22, software LE2127_11_C.19, if it matters.
excarnate said:
I've read thread after thread and as best I can tell there is an EU version, a global version, an India version, and the T-Mobile version. The radios on the non-T-Mobile versions are different than the T-Mobile version (or so it seems).
What I have is a OnePlus Nine Pro from Amazon, fully unlocked, T-Mobile version. Works fine for me on T-Mobile. What I want is the unlocked firmware, as if I bought it in the US directly from OnePlus. Like the Nine that I got directly from OnePlus that I am returning because I want the telephoto lens and a couple other improvements the Pro has.
Since someone may ask, here is why:
Avoid bright magenta startup screen
Get patches more quickly
Get round icons
Debloated (esp. Qualcomm)
The feel of the phone, to me, is less than the Nine with stock unlocked firmware
The dialer is better on stock OOS 12
I don't want to lose the radio, I don't need an International version, I plan to stick with T-Mobile, so it seems like it should be easy, but I can't find the firmware. If the global version is the same as the unlocked, fine, but do I have to do weird things to keep the US compatible radio (like I read in various threads)?
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Sorry, but if it is T-Mobile carrier, you have to unlock the bootloader with a token. There is a XDA thread on unlocking the T-Mobile bootloader if you are on a branded LE2127 model phone.
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Sorry, but if it is T-Mobile carrier, you have to unlock the bootloader with a token. There is a XDA thread on unlocking the T-Mobile bootloader if you are on a branded LE2127 model phone.
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I'm asking about obtaining the North American stock unlocked version of the firmware, not about unlocking a phone that is "fully unlocked".
excarnate said:
I'm asking about obtaining the North American stock unlocked version of the firmware, not about unlocking a phone that is "fully unlocked".
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If you install any firmware such as the North American (Global) once the rom is installed you have to go into fastboot mode to unlock the bootloader. No rom comes unlocked....sorry!
This is what you want. Anything else and you risk breaking the radio.
Convert your T-Mobile (LE2127) to EU via MSM, No unlock.bin needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modemst1/2 and persist. If you lose these for any reason, it's unique to your device and not recoverable if you didn't back up (via MSM or other people). ***...
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This is what you want. Anything else and you risk breaking the radio.
Convert your T-Mobile (LE2127) to EU via MSM, No unlock.bin needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modemst1/2 and persist. If you lose these for any reason, it's unique to your device and not recoverable if you didn't back up (via MSM or other people). ***...
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I'm confused. Is the EU version the same as the unlocked version as sold in NA directly from OPO?
[edit], Yes I had read that and don't want to have to screw around with the modems; on the Nine I had several OTAs after unboxing it, the modem just kept working (on T-Mobile, who is my carrier). That page you reference says "You must flash the T-Mobile modem after every OTA" which is not interesting to me. And it talks about dual SIM, which I believe the NA unlocked version does not have (at least the 9 does not). So there is a firmware out there, presumably, that is different.
If I spent the extra money that I don't have on a new Nine Pro straight from OPO, I'd have the firmware I want. Instead I need to flash it, which is no big deal, but I can't find it. And I wouldn't have the pretty blue color : )
Of course I assume my experience with the Nine is the same as the Nine Pro, software-wise.
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This is what you want. Anything else and you risk breaking the radio.
Convert your T-Mobile (LE2127) to EU via MSM, No unlock.bin needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modemst1/2 and persist. If you lose these for any reason, it's unique to your device and not recoverable if you didn't back up (via MSM or other people). ***...
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I advise against this as I had used this and ended up with problems....search for the MSM Tool for unbricking a global device which is the same as North American..... Then unlock bootloader
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I advise against this as I had used this and ended up with problems....search for the MSM Tool for unbricking a global device which is the same as North American..... Then unlock bootloader
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But you can't use the global firmware on the T-Mobile 9 Pro without losing the radio I thought? I figured that was the whole reason nobody has made an MSM Mod to flash the T-Mobile variant with global instead of EU software.
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I'm confused. Is the EU version the same as the unlocked version as sold in NA directly from OPO?
[edit], Yes I had read that and don't want to have to screw around with the modems; on the Nine I had several OTAs after unboxing it, the modem just kept working (on T-Mobile, who is my carrier). That page you reference says "You must flash the T-Mobile modem after every OTA" which is not interesting to me. And it talks about dual SIM, which I believe the NA unlocked version does not have (at least the 9 does not). So there is a firmware out there, presumably, that is different.
If I spent the extra money that I don't have on a new Nine Pro straight from OPO, I'd have the firmware I want. Instead I need to flash it, which is no big deal, but I can't find it. And I wouldn't have the pretty blue color : )
Of course I assume my experience with the Nine is the same as the Nine Pro, software-wise.
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The T-Mobile 9 Pro has a unique situation where it only works right with the T-Mobile modem. The T-Mobile 9 doesn't suffer from this issue and can use any 9 modem. The process here has been proven to result in a usable modem once the conversion is done. I don't believe the same can be said of using the NA global firmware.
This is what you need to do for the Global Firmware.
[TMO] 9 PRO MODEM RETENTION/DATA FIX
----- With the release of OOS13, the modem issue no longer exist. Thank you all for the support & help with this unfortunate issue, we had to endure.... ----- EXPLICITLY FOR TMOBILE 9 PRO (I'm not responsible for your failure to read or...
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This is what you need to do for the Global Firmware.
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The word that keeps throwing me is "global". So if I spent the extra $300 and got it directly from OnePlus in the United States, I'd have the global firmware?
The few threads with "North American" aren't explicit [enough for my tiny brain].
I've been testing the (pretty blue) one I got refurbed, and it seems fine, so I'm keen to fix the issues I've mentioned, and I don't mind the work.
FWIW, most of the time I see "global" on xda, it is different from "U.S.".
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The word that keeps throwing me is "global". So if I spent the extra $300 and got it directly from OnePlus in the United States, I'd have the global firmware?
The few threads with "North American" aren't explicit [enough for my tiny brain].
I've been testing the (pretty blue) one I got refurbed, and it seems fine, so I'm keen to fix the issues I've mentioned, and I don't mind the work.
FWIW, most of the time I see "global" on xda, it is different from "U.S.".
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It's Global due to it not coming preloaded with T-Mobile firmware. I believe the 2127 you have came sim and bootloader unlocked. I bought my 2127 directly from T-Mobile and had to request T-Mobile to sim unlock it and request a token to unlock my bootloader from OnePlus site due to it being directly from T-Mobile. So, when you convert it to the Global version it will remove the T-Mobile bloat.
9Pro directly from OnePlus site for NA is 2125 and for EU is 2123.
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So, when you convert it to the Global version it will remove the T-Mobile bloat.
9Pro directly from OnePlus site for NA is 2125 and for EU is 2123.
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OK, so that's a "no", it won't be the same as the 2125, software-wise. It won't have the very bright magenta startup screen, it won't have the T-Mobile software pre-installed, but there will be differences (what?) from the 2125 firmware.
Right?
Is it possible to get/load the 2125 firmware?
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OK, so that's a "no", it won't be the same as the 2125, software-wise. It won't have the very bright magenta startup screen, it won't have the T-Mobile software pre-installed, but there will be differences (what?) from the 2125 firmware.
Right?
Is it possible to get/load the 2125 firmware?
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Your phone will pretty much run the 2125 software when you convert the 2127. Won't have anything T-Mobile at all unless you install T-Mobile applications. The main advantage of it all is faster software updates rather than sitting around waiting for T-Mobile to update their software for 2127 branded phones. That thread I posted will help you convert your 2127 to 2125 (Global) BUT! Keep in mind to make sure you retain your T-Mobile modem.
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Your phone will pretty much run the 2125 software when you convert the 2127.
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luckylui said:
That thread I posted will help you convert your 2127 to 2125 (Global) BUT! Keep in mind to make sure you retain your T-Mobile modem.
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OK, so it is "yes", but with a caveat for the modem. Which is weird because, as I understand it, the modem from OnePlus direct purchases would be fine and fully support T-Mobile. No way to get whatever that modem is [and have it work perfectly]?
Thanks for your time going back and forth, by the way.
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OK, so it is "yes", but with a caveat for the modem. Which is weird because, as I understand it, the modem from OnePlus direct purchases would be fine and fully support T-Mobile. No way to get whatever that modem is [and have it work perfectly]?
Thanks for your time going back and forth, by the way.
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The 2127 has a modem specifically with T-Mobile bands as I like to say built for the T-Mobile network. The 2125 has a modem that still works with T-Mobile, but doesn't have the extra bands that come with the 2127 modem. That's why you should retain the T-Mobile modem before converting to 2125
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The 2125 has a modem that still works with T-Mobile, but doesn't have the extra bands that come with the 2127 modem.
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This.
Out of curiosity, if you know, does this apply to the Nine (non-Pro)? I'm used to getting all the T-Mobile bands, until I hold on to my phone so long the network changes.
excarnate said:
This.
Out of curiosity, if you know, does this apply to the Nine (non-Pro)? I'm used to getting all the T-Mobile bands, until I hold on to my phone so long the network changes.
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No, it doesn't apply to the regular 9, just the 9 Pro.
I bought the 2125 Pro for use on t-mobile USA and it has global firmware. I looked on the official OnePlus manufacturer tech specs and it has all the LTE and 5G bands that T-Mobile USA says they currently use in their support site. I don’t understand what this is about a special modem firmware for T-Mobile. Is there something I am missing here?
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I bought the 2125 Pro for use on t-mobile USA and it has global firmware. I looked on the official OnePlus manufacturer tech specs and it has all the LTE and 5G bands that T-Mobile USA says they currently use in their support site. I don’t understand what this is about a special modem firmware for T-Mobile. Is there something I am missing here?
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T-Mobile UW Band which comes with the 2127 model.