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I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
mitul2288 said:
I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I did the same thing, my sponsor let me use his IMEI just to get the sim, and then once we liked the service, my wife used his sim for her own note 2.
As for question number 3, they do have a plan that doesn't have any cap, but I believe it's $89 per month.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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Awesome, I am glad you like it. I was hoping to use my phone to download .nzb movies while on the go and use it as my main internet line via tethering. That is where I came up with the 20-30 gb figure.
Would solavei throttle me or block my account if I use that much data?
Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Nope, sprint doesn't throttle at all, although it's hard to find a place with LTE or WiMAX which means, you'll be stuck on their 3G at best.
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Got MMS working?
I noticed that when I make a call, the phone drops from LTE to HSPA or whatever their 3G band is called. I have an LTE SIM in there that had HD calling working on my Essential, Pixel2 XL, iPhone 8+, OP3, etc...
I was getting HD calling on all of those devices, and I did call AT&T support and had them add my IMEI to the line, so it should be working. Is there something that I have to do to enable it on the phone?
My concern is that if I am tethering while on a conf call, I won't get LTE and that's a problem.
Thoughts?
U had it on ur op3, I thought att did not allow volte on non att phones, I was never able to get it on my op3
I thought that I did, and I did on my Essential. Damn it, this sucks... Might have to go back to the Essential. Not having voice and data at the same time in 2018 blows... I am within the return window, although because of the credit card breach, the card they would need to refund to, has been canceled... What a cluster...
Yeah, ran through all sorts of hoops with several customer service reps. They say that VoLTE is enabled and provisioned properly to this SIM and IMEI, but I can't get it to work and it doesn't even show up as an option to enable it in any of the phone's menus... So either AT&T won't allow this BYOD device to have simlutanous voice and data on LTE, or maybe something in the beta isn't giving me the option.
Is anyone running the stock non beta OOS and getting VoLTE to work on AT&T?
I also gave them an IMEI from one of my other phones, an AT&T branded Note 5 that I own, and told them to put that one in and see if it worked, because that would tell me whether it is the phone itself not able to do it, or a provisioning thing on AT&T's end... That didn't work either...
I then went back to my Essential and had them enter that IMEI and it didn't work either...
I guess if I want wifi calling and voice and data at the same time, I have to pay a ton of money for an AT&T phone... Kinda bummed...
I talked to their support and put the SIM back in my Essential, and it fired right up and has VoLTE and doesn't drop to H+ when I make a call. Same SIM, I didn't even call to give them the IMEI. So something isn't supported on the OP5T.
Which sucks, because between the two phones, I really prefer the 5T. Oh well, I guess it wasn't meant to be... That's the downside of buying unlocked phones, you may miss out on some of the key features that you want on the carrier side...
Which ROM are you on?
Did you turn on VoLTE in settings if you are in stock OOS? If not you can try a custom ROM like Liquid Remix that have VoLTE working
Stock rom. If I have to install a custom rom to get the phone to work, not worth it. I will just return it and get my money back
AT&T only enables VoLTE and LTE+ on provisioned devices and supported, usually BYOD especially for a non-listed device does NOT apply. I was on AT&T when I got my 5T, tried my sim from iPhone 6S and a brand new sim I got at the store that I was assured would have VoLTE capability, but nothing. Not even wifi calling would work on my 5T. No options in Settings either to toggle it. They want you to buy the device from them is why they do this on unlocked phones.
I switched to T-Mobile and I had VoLTE, LTE+, and VoWiFi all on first boot with T-Mobile sim, with all of them listed in Settings on the same device with same software version as I was when on AT&T's network.
It's simply just a case of AT&T not supporting the device. Typically only carrier-sold phones for AT&T will have those capabilities, if you look it up you'll see many people say the same. Personally I'm glad I switched to T-Mobile because they don't lock down all of those features to try to get me to buy a phone from the carrier like AT&T did/does. I'd never go back to them at this point. Sorry but if staying on AT&T is the only option for you I'd look into how you could go about returning the phone to OnePlus and getting something AT&T-approved.
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Stock rom. If I have to install a custom rom to get the phone to work, not worth it. I will just return it and get my money back
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AT&T only enables VoLTE and LTE+ on provisioned devices and supported, usually BYOD especially for a non-listed device does NOT apply. I was on AT&T when I got my 5T, tried my sim from iPhone 6S and a brand new sim I got at the store that I was assured would have VoLTE capability, but nothing. Not even wifi calling would work on my 5T. No options in Settings either to toggle it. They want you to buy the device from them is why they do this on unlocked phones.
I switched to T-Mobile and I had VoLTE, LTE+, and VoWiFi all on first boot with T-Mobile sim, with all of them listed in Settings on the same device with same software version as I was when on AT&T's network.
It's simply just a case of AT&T not supporting the device. Typically only carrier-sold phones for AT&T will have those capabilities, if you look it up you'll see many people say the same. Personally I'm glad I switched to T-Mobile because they don't lock down all of those features to try to get me to buy a phone from the carrier like AT&T did/does. I'd never go back to them at this point. Sorry but if staying on AT&T is the only option for you I'd look into how you could go about returning the phone to OnePlus and getting something AT&T-approved.
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I have an ATT sim from my company originally meant for an iPhone. VoLTE did not work on a google pixel cause the plan was not compatible. And since it is not my plan I can't make changes. I ordered the Oneplus to see if I could get it to work. And on a Stock ROM it will not work without Root and the Magisk Module to enable VoLTE. It will work on Custom ROMS such as Omni and Phoenix, both of with work for me with no issues.
In the end I returned the OP5T for a refund, and am back to using my Essential. While that is a non-AT&T phone that I bought right from Essential, it does support VoLTE out of the box, no issues. I don't get Wifi Calling, but I get HD Calling, works with my tethering plan, etc... Not sure why the Essential works but the OP5T doesn't, and it sucks because I liked the OP5T more... but it is what it is...
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i got it working on the 5T
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It works on ATT, but the issue is that it doesn't do HD Calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
Make a phone call and while you are on the phone, you lose LTE and it drops to HSPA(3G)...
It's not a phone limitation, it's that AT&T won't allow it to have those features on their network. That is the ONLY reason I sent the phone back. Hopefully they address it with the OP6 and get in "approved" for AT&T and I can sell my iPhone 8+ and come back to Android...
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It works on ATT, but the issue is that it doesn't do HD Calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
Make a phone call and while you are on the phone, you lose LTE and it drops to HSPA(3G)...
It's not a phone limitation, it's that AT&T won't allow it to have those features on their network. That is the ONLY reason I sent the phone back. Hopefully they address it with the OP6 and get in "approved" for AT&T and I can sell my iPhone 8+ and come back to Android...
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Sorry, but this will never happen in the foreseeable future.
AT&T purposely does this to all BYOD, so the OP6 is not going to change anything. They only offer these options for phones you purchase directly through them online or in an AT&T store.
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Sorry, but this will never happen in the foreseeable future.
AT&T purposely does this to all BYOD, so the OP6 is not going to change anything. They only offer these options for phones you purchase directly through them online or in an AT&T store.
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Not entirely true. The Pixels you buy straight from Google, work. The Essential that I had, worked fine. There are phones that work just fine that you don't have to purchase through AT&T.
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Not entirely true. The Pixels you buy straight from Google, work. The Essential that I had, worked fine. There are phones that work just fine that you don't have to purchase through AT&T.
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No I got it working, i was trying to show a screenshot
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No I got it working, i was trying to show a screenshot
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How did you get it working? I didn't want to root it and install a custom ROM, which I believe was the only way to get it working.
I tried using an IMEI from one of my other phones that I know worked, etc... Nothing worked.
You guys know that even if you show the switches and turn them on, that the LTE data doesn't work right? It's just showing the options and you can turn them on. I even have my OP5t added to my account as an ATT LG G6 and it doesn't work. Unless there is some agreement, like with the Essential Phone or Google's only official phone, you're out of luck.
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You guys know that even if you show the switches and turn them on, that the LTE data doesn't work right? It's just showing the options and you can turn them on. I even have my OP5t added to my account as an ATT LG G6 and it doesn't work. Unless there is some agreement, like with the Essential Phone or Google's only official phone, you're out of luck.
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Exactly, that's what I was getting at. I talked to ATT several times, tried different IMEI's and nothing worked. Regardless of what the options in the menu claim, it doesn't work. If you are just using your phone it will say LTE. But when you make a call, as soon as it connects, it switches to 3G or HSPA+... It won't do phone calls and LTE data at the same time.
If it did, I would have kept the phone. But that's a pretty big feature to have to live without for me. That and HD calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
I wish that OnePlus would do whatever they need to do to get the phone "certified" for ATT, but I don't see that happening...
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Exactly, that's what I was getting at. I talked to ATT several times, tried different IMEI's and nothing worked. Regardless of what the options in the menu claim, it doesn't work. If you are just using your phone it will say LTE. But when you make a call, as soon as it connects, it switches to 3G or HSPA+... It won't do phone calls and LTE data at the same time.
If it did, I would have kept the phone. But that's a pretty big feature to have to live without for me. That and HD calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
I wish that OnePlus would do whatever they need to do to get the phone "certified" for ATT, but I don't see that happening...
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Yea, it's a pretty crappy situation. I came from a Moto x Pure to the OP5 and then to the OP5t and it was a big disappointment when I was stuck without LTE on calls. I had the Moto x on Verizon though. I really don't get why they restrict BYOD phones at all considering that if people use MORE data, they are likely to bump up their plans to the next tier. I kinda don't get the rationale. Anyway, it is what it is. I love my OP5t and hope to keep this phone for a while, unlike many past phones. But I live in a city, so rarely have issues here.
we have 3 Note 10+ my son ordered his the day of the preorder release. he has the 256 version and my wife and i got the 512 version.
Upon my wife and I getting the phones we replaced the sim chips with new ones from AT&T instead of removing the ones in our Pixel 3xl. I noticed that AT&T Visual voice mail wasn't there but after loging into our voice mail account it downloaded a different visual voice mail program.
however we are having signal problems, I noticed that we didn't Get Voice over WIFI, Advanced Messaging, Volte etc. I called into support 611 and explained and they said that they would re-register our phones to turn them off for a few min and back on and should be ok.
That didn't' accomplish anything. I talked with an engineer that I know that works for AT&T and he said that my son's phone is provisioned for VOLTE with torch i think but not in the account screen. My wife and my devices are not provisioned for VOLTE HOWEVER NONE of our phones are connecting for voice or data to 4G LTE only 3G. He didn't know why but would check further.
after complaining to OOP with Samsung and being within the return window they said that we could order from them the branded AT&T phones and return our unlocked phones.
I realize that we will get stuck with the bloatware, but if we are getting 4G LTE VOLTE etc. maybe that is what should be done.
If we do that can we still get them unlocked and what do we loose by doing this? I appreciate the work everyone is doing here and I think hopefully I can get an honest answer vs everyone pointing the finger at everyone else.
My big concerns are:
If I keep these what do we loose?
How bad is the bloat ware?
If we change to T Mobile or others later can we, or if we travel, get AT&T to unlock the phones
If I keep these phones and flash the AT&T files will we:
Then get access to the programs and services we don't have now?
Get over the air updates as they are released?
I would highly appreciate any advice
Thank you for everyone's help in advance
I was getting horrible battery usage on my At&t branded Note 10+. What I did was flash the U1 unlocked firmware, set things up, made a few calls, sent a few text so things provisioned to At&t. I then flashed At&t csc with odin and this gave me 4GLte..wifi calling..video calling..advanced messaging..and volte
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but your phone was branded AT&T right so theIMEI number is active in their system
I had the same issue - thankfully, I was able to test a friend's SIM card from AT&T and his worked! I saw an obscure reference (see below) to it being an issue with older SIM cards. I'm heading to AT&T store to replace mine tonight.
https://forums.att.com/t5/Apple/Cellular-data-not-working/td-p/5731162
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Yes it is At&t branded.
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It's HD1907 T-MOBILE. What I need is HD1905. He sent me the wrong one.
I only realized a few hours ago I had no mobile data. I had got calls and texts to work this morning.
After spending 45 minutes on the phone with AT&T they concluded my phone is not recognized as LTE compatible. WTF? It's not even connecting to 3g.lb
I've been buying unlocked phones for years. My last phone was OP5T. I've never experienced anything like this.
I'll probably take it to the corporate store tomorrow but doubt it'll help. Has anyone had problems with AT&T and this phone?
I'm just putting it out there, hoping somebody has an idea...
AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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I'll bet if you look in the settings your model is HD1905 or the global model, not sure the number.
Actually if you could take a look for me and post back here that'd be good. It most likely won't make a difference but I'm curious.
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I'll bet if you look in the settings your model is HD1905 or the global model, not sure the number.
Actually if you could take a look for me and post back here that'd be good. It most likely won't make a difference but I'm curious.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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You mean Verizon when you say VZW?
I'm just confused as to how he would be able to add it to the list of approved devices.
Anyway it's BS. If the carrier supports the phone, and the phone is capable of VOLT!/WIFI CALLING, it should work.
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You mean Verizon when you say VZW?
I'm just confused as to how he would be able to add it to the list of approved devices.
Anyway it's BS. If the carrier supports the phone, and the phone is capable of VOLT!/WIFI CALLING, it should work.
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Yes Verizon. I have heard hear many times on this site, that phones are blocked from wifi calling by the IMEI, I or they could be wrong.
Vowifi works on the unlocked Pixel, but are they going to butt heads with Google? Volte works fine, I got a network extender, and I can use google voice to make calls over wifi if I really need to.
If vowifi is a must, get an approved phone, that is all you can do.
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AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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Maybe you can answer this for me. Just because a T-MOBILE locked phone is able to make calls and texts on AT&T, does that automatically mean it should be able to connect to mobile data?
I was able to get it to make calls after a refresh signal was sent out, but it could not connect to mobile data . My sim is fine. I even popped it my son's Pixel 3a and LTE started immediately.
The seller is saying the fact that it was able to make calls means it is able to connect to mobile data. And I should take it to AT&T before returning it. I don't think he's scamming. He says he has the same phone on AT&T. And he's sold Hundreds of them. That kinda checks out based on reviews and some of those people do report it works with AT&T.
These phones are hd1907 T-Mobile but supposedly OnePlus unlocks them before sending them out to some sellers. I sort of believe the guy but is it true? If it were locked to T-Mobile could I get it to make phone calls?
Obviously I'm not talking about a hack. Because I thought locked was locked. Is it possible for a locked T-Mobile phone to make calls on the AT&T network?
Also I got AT&T to make it work but once I removed the sim/reinsert it, the thing displays weird behavior. Wifi goes in and out. It forgets the apn settings that were set prior.
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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I agree, ATT was the most horrible experience I ever had. Tracfone may have even had a better customer support.
Verizon CDMA service may be antiquated, but their customer service and tech support is 2nd to none.
KLit75 said:
Maybe you can answer this for me. Just because a T-MOBILE locked phone is able to make calls and texts on AT&T, does that automatically mean it should be able to connect to mobile data?
I was able to get it to make calls after a refresh signal was sent out, but it could not connect to mobile data . My sim is fine. I even popped it my son's Pixel 3a and LTE started immediately.
The seller is saying the fact that it was able to make calls means it is able to connect to mobile data. And I should take it to AT&T before returning it. I don't think he's scamming. He says he has the same phone on AT&T. And he's sold Hundreds of them. That kinda checks out based on reviews and some of those people do report it works with AT&T.
These phones are hd1907 T-Mobile but supposedly OnePlus unlocks them before sending them out to some sellers. I sort of believe the guy but is it true? If it were locked to T-Mobile could I get it to make phone calls?
Obviously I'm not talking about a hack. Because I thought locked was locked. Is it possible for a locked T-Mobile phone to make calls on the AT&T network?
Also I got AT&T to make it work but once I removed the sim/reinsert it, the thing displays weird behavior. Wifi goes in and out. It forgets the apn settings that were set prior.
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It should have no trouble using data BUT you'll have to change the phone's APN settings to match your carrier before you can. You can google it and find them. It's not hard at all to change. Somewhere under the "network" settings.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I've understood it the phone will keep trying to access the previous carrier's data network, which is why you didn't have data. But as said above the APN settings should fix that.
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It should have no trouble using data BUT you'll have to change the phone's APN settings to match your carrier before you can. You can google it and find them. It's not hard at all to change. Somewhere under the "network" settings.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I've understood it the phone will keep trying to access the previous carrier's data network, which is why you didn't have data. But as said above the APN settings should fix that.
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If I told you the whole story, which started on Friday morning and in the end involved 7 AT&T employees, 6 on the phone and 1 in the store, it'd probably be removed because it's spam. Too long of a story.
But in the end it didn't get to connect to mobile data..at least not consistently. I took it to the store. The guy removed the Sim reset it, turned it off and boom! - LTE, calls and texts. His theory was it takes a little while for it to unlock and get set so when I tried it the other night it wasn't working.
I was happy because it literally took 5 minutes. I ran some errands and was out for like another 2 hours. Everything was working. Some point between the store and my driveway, the signal was gone. I never got it back. Of course I tried reset, remove Sim, reboot, change apn settings.
I called AT&T... the first woman didn't even know what CDMA and GSM was. I politely got her to transfer me to the guy who 'knows his stuff'. He got it to make calls again, but in the end concluded this device can't work on this network. I didn't wanna argue anymore. He had a BS answer for everything including 'If it doesn't work, why DID it work just a half hour ago?'
He said I could try getting a new sim. They have no idea. My son's sim won't work on this phone but pop it in my old phone and it works. And my sim works in his phone. It's not the sim. I know it.
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It's HD1907 T-MOBILE. What I need is HD1905. He sent me the wrong one.
I only realized a few hours ago I had no mobile data. I had got calls and texts to work this morning.
After spending 45 minutes on the phone with AT&T they concluded my phone is not recognized as LTE compatible. WTF? It's not even connecting to 3g.lb
I've been buying unlocked phones for years. My last phone was OP5T. I've never experienced anything like this.
I'll probably take it to the corporate store tomorrow but doubt it'll help. Has anyone had problems with AT&T and this phone?
I'm just putting it out there, hoping somebody has an idea...
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That's strange as they both litterly have the same bands besides 71 that 1907 has
This is att bands and oneplus bands
If u haven't tryed I would recommend using the failed to go to your settings and toggle around there all bit make sure it's set for north america
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That's strange as they both litterly have the same bands besides 71 that 1907 has
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I took it back to AT&T yesterday. There was someone in front of me so I sat down, removed the sim from my working phone, popped it in the op7t... instant lte, calls & texts. The same thing happened the day before I went to at&t. It worked perfectly well there in the store and even 2 towns away but not m my neighborhood which DOES connect to LTE, has for years on every phone we've had.
The tech (if you can really call him that) updated the sim. That got it done. I've had a working phone for 24 hours. BUT no LTE. It only connects to H+.
I haven't had time to call or go back to the store, but I'm hoping it's an easy fix. This has been the weirdest week I've ever had dealing with a phone. I've learned that AT&T doesn't know what they're doing. I still can't believe I needed to explain what GSM and CDMA was to one of the people on the call.
I'm gonna try a few things tonight after work.
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I took it back to AT&T yesterday. There was someone in front of me so I sat down, removed the sim from my working phone, popped it in the op7t... instant lte, calls & texts. The same thing happened the day before I went to at&t. It worked perfectly well there in the store and even 2 towns away but not m my neighborhood which DOES connect to LTE, has for years on every phone we've had.
The tech (if you can really call him that) updated the sim. That got it done. I've had a working phone for 24 hours. BUT no LTE. It only connects to H+.
I haven't had time to call or go back to the store, but I'm hoping it's an easy fix. This has been the weirdest week I've ever had dealing with a phone. I've learned that AT&T doesn't know what they're doing. I still can't believe I needed to explain what GSM and CDMA was to one of the people on the call.
I'm gonna try a few things tonight after work.
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That is strange and pethetic the att peaple.dont know what they are doing.if I have time later I'll try to research she if anything comes out
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This is att bands and oneplus bands
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Thanks for sharing, but I've never really needed to mess around with the settings as far as mobile data goes. It either works out of the box, or at most I'll need to put the apn in manually on some custom roms, but even that's rare.
How does the info you provided apply to my problem. I know the phone can connect to lte. It was connecting briefly on Monday afternoon and while I was at At&T yesterday, it connected before they updated the sim.
Is there something I can do with this? It's a sincere question. I'm not sure if I can apply it somehow. Thanks
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Thanks for sharing, but I've never really needed to mess around with the settings as far as mobile data goes. It either works out of the box, or at most I'll need to put the apn in manually on some custom roms, but even that's rare.
How does the info you provided apply to my problem. I know the phone can connect to lte. It was connecting briefly on Monday afternoon and while I was at At&T yesterday, it connected before they updated the sim.
Is there something I can do with this? It's a sincere question. I'm not sure if I can apply it somehow. Thanks
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I think his point was to show that the OP7T does in fact work on all AT&T bands. Normally you don't need to do anything with this if the SIM is provisioned correctly.
What are the chances that you are on the edge of the local AT&T LTE signal so it drops to H+ because that's a stronger connection? At the AT&T store the LTE signal is stronger so the phone is favoring that one. Some phones are more sensitive to signals than others (or more aggressive at switching to a stronger band).
Try using a program like "LTE Discovery" and see what bands you actually are connecting to. It can also let you know what is going on in your area with tower location.
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I think his point was to show that the OP7T does in fact work on all AT&T bands. Normally you don't need to do anything with this if the SIM is provisioned correctly.
What are the chances that you are on the edge of the local AT&T LTE signal so it drops to H+ because that's a stronger connection? At the AT&T store the LTE signal is stronger so the phone is favoring that one. Some phones are more sensitive to signals than others (or more aggressive at switching to a stronger band).
Try using a program like "LTE Discovery" and see what bands you actually are connecting to. It can also let you know what is going on in your area with tower location.
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I'll try that. Thanks.
That's what I said but the guy at the store said it's really not a stronger signal at the store. Plus I know I can get LTE at my house and in the store because all our other phones connect, even this one, briefly at the at&t store.
The seller have me a code to input into the dialer but I'm waiting for tomorrow to put it in. It's my day off. If something goes wrong it won't be a huge deal. I will look into what you sent at some point though.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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Your posts are bouncing between VoLTE & VoWiFi.
LTE bands and VoLTE work fine on Verizon's network.
Verizon allows VoWiFi on the OP 8's that they sell. They will not activate VoWiFi on the OP 7 series, the claim is that the phone did not go through their security testing. IIRC VZW doesn't allow VoWiFi on any outside phone.
I made a call and got a message that my phone would no longer work on their network since they are upgrading things. This phone isn't that old. I wonder if their system doesn't recognize it. The lady said their system was showing it was a 2g phone so I told her it handles 4g. She said on Cricket it's only able to use 3g. Does anyone know if this is true. I don't trust some operator in another country reading off a script. It sounded like they want everyone to buy phones from their website. I can't imagine a relatively new phone not having the right band. Maybe there is a setting I need to tweak or flash onto my phone if I'm only using 3g on Cricket. I'm sure I've seen my antenna say LTE. Or maybe Cricket is screening out non Cricket phones.
Check it's specs.
If it supports the needed 4G bands it may need to be reconfigured. I haven't a clue how to do that.
Maybe Access point names but it may go deeper than that.
I'm going to google and see exactly what specs Cricket will require. I think you're right and maybe something to reconfigure. I can't imagine Cricket shutting off tons of new ish phones just because they aren't bought from Cricket. Ran a speed test now and got 2.77mbps download and 8.49mbps upload. I am showing LTE now which means I'm not on 3g as she was saying now. I bet it's a sales gimmick to scare less savy folks. What mean loose phone signal in Feb hehehe.
Edit: I was on wifi when I got the message so maybe when I phone is on wifi and not using their LTE network it doesn't detect anything which is why they told me I have a 2g phone. When I shut off wifi LTE popped right up so it's probably a glitch in their way of informing us.
Edit2: Spoke to a tech at Cricket and he said my phone currently isn't compatible with them aaahahahhaha dumb. I told him I'm currently using it on LTE just fine no issues. He didn't have anything to say when I asked him since I'm not using 3g then it shouldn't affect me. He just said he wants me to have great service so buy another phone from Cricket. BS
Only HD1905 works
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Only HD1905 works
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I have HD1907 and it's currently working on LTE. Are you referring to not working in the future or currently working?
jeffrimerman said:
I have HD1907 and it's currently working on LTE. Are you referring to not working in the future or currently working?
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Not working in the future. Here is the list of devices can work after Feb 2022.
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Not working in the future. Here is the list of devices can work after Feb 2022.
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That link keeps rerouting to an ATT samsung S21 advertisment. I'll try to google the list
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That link keeps rerouting to an ATT samsung S21 advertisment. I'll try to google the list
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See the attachment above
Yes I
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See the attachment above
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Yes I was able to download that list when I googled. Judging by what it said these are phones that are tested and will work, not so much that other phones won't work. My phone was originally branded for Tmobile so I'm sure they wouldn't have tested it but it would have only had a different OS with Tmobile bloatware which I took off. The cricket people said their LTE isn't changing so I shouldn't have an issue but it will be interesting to find out. They must have just been looking at this list which is why they said my phone currently isn't compatible.
Funny this was asked but no answer given from ATT. I'll keep googling
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I read a discussion here from 2019 someone else asked and the different variants are by region as they usually are for the different LTE frequencies. 1905 is North American, 1907 is Tmobile in North America so I would imagine my LTE frequency is still going to be fine. Those that bought Chinese phones etc probably not.
This is weird. The current ad for it on Amazon says it's currently not compatible with ATT and Cricket. I wonder if me flashing another OS for North America or USA I forget is why it works fine? Maybe I'm screwed hehe
*** NOTE: Due to changes with AT&T and Cricket, this phone currently cannot be used on AT&T/Cricket. Compatible with T-Mobile and all GSM Networks along with their compatible MVNO networks such as Red Pocket GSM, Ultra Mobile, Mint Mobile, Ting GSM, Google FI and many others. This phone is NOT compatible with Verizon, Cricket or AT&T. Please verify with your network to ensure complete compatibility.
Spoke to a tech at Cricket and he said my phone currently isn't compatible with them
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I work at a prepaid carrier store (not Cricket) and am having to tell customers the same thing. It's not just about if your phone has the radios necessary, they have to have the IMEI approved in their system and if it's not then you can possibly escalate to someone who can help get it approved but you probably won't get very far. I can't activate my own OnePlus device with my company either, even though it's currently running on our parent network. I have spoken with internal support folks about it multiple times and have gotten nowhere so I gave up.
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I can't imagine Cricket shutting off tons of new ish phones just because they aren't bought from Cricket.
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Believe it. It sucks and it sounds insane but it's really happening. For me? I have to tell everyone with a Samsung Galaxy S5-S10 that they have to buy a new phone to be compatible with our new network changes. And I can tell you here that it's (probably) not the sales rep lying to you to make a commission sale, our tools are indeed forcing us to do that.
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I work at a prepaid carrier store (not Cricket) and am having to tell customers the same thing. It's not just about if your phone has the radios necessary, they have to have the IMEI approved in their system and if it's not then you can possibly escalate to someone who can help get it approved but you probably won't get very far. I can't activate my own OnePlus device with my company either, even though it's currently running on our parent network. I have spoken with internal support folks about it multiple times and have gotten nowhere so I gave up.
Believe it. It sucks and it sounds insane but it's really happening. For me? I have to tell everyone with a Samsung Galaxy S5-S10 that they have to buy a new phone to be compatible with our new network changes. And I can tell you here that it's (probably) not the sales rep lying to you to make a commission sale, our tools are indeed forcing us to do that.
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I'm just wondering why they are saying my phone currently isn't compatible when it obviously is. It works great. Even streams HD in an instant on Crickets network. Corporations aren't super efficient at checking all things under the sun. They are just checking phones they approve. They told me the same thing that my imei currently doesn't work but it does. Unless they are trying to be like Verizon and only allow specific phones in the future I'm still thinking once they shut off 3g then when someone wants to switch from Tmobile to Cricket with their unlocked working fine non 3g phone they still can or are they saying no they are going to be like Verizon and it has to be a Cricket branded phone. I don't think it's the later. I think they are just saying what will work, but not saying what won't work. Let's find out =( hehe
Read a discussion from 8 months ago. Seems like most are fine, one guy with a 1905 had issues on ATT. One guy did what I did so maybe that's why mine is fine for now. I haven't had issues like dropped calls etc but maybe the real issue I will have if Cricket adds wifi calling and VoLTE is if they use a specific frequency and the 1907 is missing it then I won't be able to use those. If Cricket only uses VoLTE then yes I am screwed in February =/
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/kf0hfo
"I am currently using a 7t that was advertised as factory unlocked on ebay, when it showed up and I turned it on the big bright pink Tmobile boot logo came by. I did some research and found the convert to international/global thread on xda, I got rid of the crap hydrogen OS that came with the "unlocked" Tmobile phone. Using ADB I was able to flash the international firmware Oxygen OS and haven't had any problems with at&t now."
If it's an IMEI issue, flashing with the hd1905 fw probably won't help matters. I have a hd1905 on cricket since 2019, everything but wifi calling works. The same cricket sim in a samdung s9+ yields working wifi calling.
So while the hd1905 and 1907 are essentially the same hardware devices, the serial #/imei may determine what happens come 2022.
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If it's an IMEI issue, flashing with the hd1905 fw probably won't help matters. I have a hd1905 on cricket since 2019, everything but wifi calling works. The same cricket sim in a samdung s9+ yields working wifi calling.
So while the hd1905 and 1907 are essentially the same hardware devices, the serial #/imei may determine what happens come 2022.
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Yup, I'm wondering if the hardware or the IMEI will determine things. I didn't even know Cricket had wifi calling. Did Cricket even let you download the wifi calling app but it didn't work or did they not allow you to download it?
Edit: I looked it up. Looks like wifi calling will work on phones that have it built in to their OS settings. I probably won't use it if I end up buying another OnePlus phone. I wonder if there are any phones where wifi calling is working on Cricket that isn't on the list but is in the OS settings.
Wifi calling app? The s9+ was hybrid flashed. Everything but the main OS came from the U firmware (carrier), while the rom came from U1 fw. Result was working carrier features (volte/wifi calling) without the bloat.
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Wifi calling app? The s9+ was hybrid flashed. Everything but the main OS came from the U firmware (carrier), while the rom came from U1 fw. Result was working carrier features (volte/wifi calling) without the bloat.
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The s9+ is probably the same as the s9 as far as the wifi calling since "+" isn't mentioned on their list.
Huh? It's right under the s9.