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I have a Boost Mobile Moto G8 Fast xt 2045-3. I also have a Moto G7 Power. When I got the Fast a couple of weeks ago I tried the 3 amp charger from the Power on it and watched the amperage with the Ampere app. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere). The kernel in the stock Boost OS wouldn't let it charge above about 1800 mAh. I rooted the other day and installed the latest RETUS OS. Tonight I accidentally plugged them in backwards and saw the Fast hit almost 2700 mAh. I didn't think to tell you guys until later, but later I got a screenshot of it at around 2300 mAh. I also got a picture of the output of both of the Motorola's chargers in case anyone wants to get a 3 amp adaptive charger and start turbocharging.
EDIT: It seems it doesn't Turbo Charge until you flash the Magisk patched kernel to root it, so it may do that on the Boost OS as well, but I'm not about to download and install the Boost system again.

yes it have turbo power just doesnt include these charger, I already used old charger from moto G7 and when I plugged it on G8 popup show Turbopower connected Charging rapidly

Yes, the G8 supports 15W charging. I do not know why Motorola writes on their pages (which is why others copy this information) about charging only 10W. Maybe because of the included charger? However, on the description pages of their chargers, Motorola mentions 15W charging support for the G8, for example here:
https://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-turbopower-45w-wall-charger-with-5-amp-e-marked-usb-c-cable/p
In FAQ:
Up to 15W- Moto Z family, Moto G6, G6 Plus, G7, G7 Power, G7 Optimo Maxx, G7 Supra, G Power, G8, G8 Plus, X4, Motorola One, One Power, One Vision, One Zoom
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AC adapater?

I'm purchasing a Moto G via Boost tomorrow & aware that Moto G's charger is Micro USB only.
Motorola's page recommends/suggests using a AC adapter from another Motorola phone, I've never owned a Motorola phone before.
I was thinking on using my N7 2012's AC adapter to substitute for the AC/outlet charging.
My only concern is would be a wise idea on doing so because
"Any Motorola charger with the correct micro-USB tip will charge your Moto G. You will see the best results when the output of the charger is between 500 mA and 1.5 A. The higher the output, the faster your Moto G will charge.
If your charger output is higher, the MOTO G will automatically restrict the charging rate. If your charger is lower, it will simply take longer to reach a full charge."
and having looked at the specs of my N7 2012 charger
AC Input
110V-240V
DC Output
5Vdc/2A
Any help/advice on this here would be greatly appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598898
Wall Adapter [Q]
That thread was created with the same reason. Check out the answers. You should be fine
Sent from my Moto G
Damn, could have bought 2A adapter, got only 1A adapter from ebay for 1$, because 1.5A adapters were not that cheap. But it still does the job well.

Moto g5 not turbo charging

Hi all. Bought my sister a Moto g5 which she received today. She likes it more than she thought she would (coming from a samsung). However the charger supplied dosnt show the turbocharger notification. Also on the plug it only shows 5.2v=2a
Guessing this is not the turbocharger
Shah1989 said:
Hi all. Bought my sister a Moto g5 which she received today. She likes it more than she thought she would (coming from a samsung). However the charger supplied dosnt show the turbocharger notification. Also on the plug it only shows 5.2v=2a
Guessing this is not the turbocharger
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U don't want turbo charger when it charges is there an led on by the camera
Imho you don't need a turbo charger, almost any outlet capable of [email protected](10W) can charge it reasonably fast (shows 1 hr 20 mins at that speed) but gets hotter than a toaster

Quick Charge™ 3.0 Support?

Just received the Moto G5 (UK unbranded version: Single Sim, 2GB RAM, Snapdragon 430).
Its unlocked, running LineageOS (7.1.2). Very happy with such a budget phone. The only problem is it charges slow. I am using a Qualcomm® certified charger, which has a blue LED for normal charging, that turns green when using Quick Charge. It works fine for my HTC phones. The Moto G5 seemingly doesn't work with Qualcomm's QC chargers?
Does the Moto G5 support Quick Charge 3.0 ? In theory it should do as the Snapdragon 430 does. Is it a firmware problem that is likely to be resolved, or just by design only to work with Motorola branded TurboPower™ chargers? It would be disappointing if that's the case.
outrage_uk said:
Just received the Moto G5 (UK unbranded version: Single Sim, 2GB RAM, Snapdragon 430).
Its unlocked, running LineageOS (7.1.2). Very happy with such a budget phone. The only problem is it charges slow. I am using a Qualcomm® certified charger, which has a blue LED for normal charging, that turns green when using Quick Charge. It works fine for my HTC phones. The Moto G5 seemingly doesn't work with Qualcomm's QC chargers?
Does the Moto G5 support Quick Charge 3.0 ? In theory it should do as the Snapdragon 430 does. Is it a firmware problem that is likely to be resolved, or just by design only to work with Motorola branded TurboPower™ chargers? It would be disappointing if that's the case.
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After doing some reading heres some information
Quick charge & turbo charge are the same thing - its just manufacturers brand names
Both moto g5 & g5 plus phones support fast charging, with the Moto G5 coming with a 10W TurboCharge charger out of the box, and the G5 Plus with a 15W TurboCharge adapter.
​The Mo​​torola Turbo charger will charge the device at a faster rate when the device is below 78%. If the device is already at 78% or higher, it will charge at regular speed.
1% - 65% 53 mins
- 96% 1hr 33 mins
- 100% 1hr 52 mins
Currently as far as I can tell it's quick charge 2.0 although as you said in theory it can support 3.0 - Maybe a future firmware upgrade will allow this
I assumed it would it be same thing under a different silly brand name - it says on Motorola website that their ' TurboPower™ ' charger is in fact Quick Charge 2.0 - and works as such in other phones, so I can't see why Quick Charge certified chargers don't work with this phone.
Anyway it doesn't for me, so I am hoping it will be fixed in future firmware. I have emailed Motorola direct about it, I will see if they reply....
Am I write in thinking the only thing special about the quick charges is the wattage? Pin output being the same as good old changers?
I ask as I going to be fitting new plug sockets with high wattage USB ports in some locations around the house. Chargers are always going walkies in my house :crying:
trotter2000 said:
Am I write in thinking the only thing special about the quick charges is the wattage?
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No, Quick Charge™ uses the data + and - pins to negotiate and supply different voltages (3.6 V to 20 V) and currents to charge quickly. Its different to using a standard high wattage 5v outlet.
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Thank you for contacting Moto & Lenovo.
The Moto G5 Plus supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 (and Motorola TurboPower™). However, the Moto G5 does not. It comes with a 10W rapid charger, but this is not the same as Quick Charge (or TurboPower™).
This is a hardware limitation. Not a firmware issue. Even though the Snapdragon™ 430 is capable of supporting Quick Charge, the phone itself is not.
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outrage_uk said:
No, Quick Charge™ uses the data + and - pins to negotiate and supply different voltages (3.6 V to 20 V) and currents to charge quickly. Its different to using a standard high wattage 5v outlet.
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leaves me a little lost then. If turbocharge is the same as quickcharge 2.0 then my charger that came with phone is not a turbocharge at all. It has a output rating of 5.2v.
Edit: didn't see last post as it was an old refresh I guess lol Didn't quite sink in when i seen rapid charge in the promo on there site.
I wish I did more research. I went for this phone for a budget Quick charge 64bit phone lol failed the other part was responsive and I still have that
trotter2000 said:
I wish I did more research. I went for this phone for a budget Quick charge 64bit phone lol failed the other part was responsive and I still have that
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Exactly the same. I saw "rapid charging" on their website and assumed with the fact it has a Snapdragon 430 processor, it would support Quick Charge 3.0. No idea why they have chosen not to support it Never mind, it's still a decent enough slow charging phone running Android 7.1.2, for the money.
i just bought the mrs one for xmas and dont think its has a fast charger with it...
charger just says 5v 2ah like normal chargers?

Can we use LG V20 charger on Galaxy s9?

Will the fast charging working? Is it safe for the battery?
I've used my LG G6 charger with the S9 and it registered as fast charging. Actually, its probably my older G5 charger. Can't remember if I switched them when I went from G5 to G6.
I was at 28% and it said to full was 1h15m So that is on par with my G6 charging.

So... how it is with the charging, exactly? -- USB-C and wireless charging question

I am wondering about charging options for G7 and ask about two particular which I am most interested about.
1. Immediately when I got it I thought "cool, let's charge it a bit, let it sip a bit of a power from USB-C from the desktop", however there came the surprise No.1 - G7 is not fast charging, my 6P is (6P charges in 1 hour and something), G7 reported over 3 hours to charge.
How to fast charge the G7 from USB-C? I have a capable HW for that and Nexus 6P works that way.
2. I saw some mentions here that G7 supports 10W if not even 15W wireless charging, is that info verified? I am planning on buying a wireless charger (one at home, one at work), but I would like to know if there is pretty much any reason to buy 10 or even 15W chargers.
dropadred said:
I am wondering about charging options for G7 and ask about two particular which I am most interested about.
1. Immediately when I got it I thought "cool, let's charge it a bit, let it sip a bit of a power from USB-C from the desktop", however there came the surprise No.1 - G7 is not fast charging, my 6P is (6P charges in 1 hour and something), G7 reported over 3 hours to charge.
How to fast charge the G7 from USB-C? I have a capable HW for that and Nexus 6P works that way.
2. I saw some mentions here that G7 supports 10W if not even 15W wireless charging, is that info verified? I am planning on buying a wireless charger (one at home, one at work), but I would like to know if there is pretty much any reason to buy 10 or even 15W chargers.
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1. The desktop usually doesn't support fast charging. You need a phone charger that supports fast charging. The one included in the box will charge the phone for 1 and a half hours. You can of course buy a new one.
2. Any wireless charger will work but it won't charge fast. I tried Samsung's fast wireless charger but it charged the phone slowly. I would say, just use a cable if you're on a hurry and maybe a wireless charger when you're not using your phone.
But the thing is, Nexus 6P can, it is even stating it is fast charging via the very same USB-C port and cable, so naturally I am wondering why G7 is not.
Right now, G7 is being charged from USB-C just as long (considering what the estimation at the bottom of the screens is) I reckon would be charged via 5W wireless charger. I have dismissed the idea of more powerful charger, I don't need it, for that I don't mind it would be charging even over 3 hours.
And here's an example of how even though its a USB C port on the phone, not all features are implemented equally. Its either looking for some sort of resistance on the line in the cable or something else similar to that, as my Anker cables won't fast charge the G7 but will fast charge my Moto Z Play on my computer (which has the right port specs to support fast charge). If you look at the supplied cable with the G7, you'll notice that only one side of the C connector has contacts, and even then its a small amount of contacts that don't cover the whole side. more than likely the USB C cable you are using is fully built out so the phone is probably deciding that it won't quick charge when a fully spec'd C cable is used.
that's just my speculation
Nexus 6P doesn't support Qualcomm QC at all. LG G7 does.
Nexus 6P uses Quick Charge based on USB-C technology.
Different phones, different technology, different story.
LameMonster82 said:
2. Any wireless charger will work but it won't charge fast. I tried Samsung's fast wireless charger but it charged the phone slowly. I would say, just use a cable if you're on a hurry and maybe a wireless charger when you're not using your phone.
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Because Samsung wireless chargers use their own proprietary standard but not industry Qi which G7 is supported. G7 needs Qi capable fast wireless charging pad to enable 15W mode
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dropadred said:
How to fast charge the G7 from USB-C? I have a capable HW for that and Nexus 6P works that way.
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Seems like Nexus 6P is capable of USB-C Power Delivery standard and G7 somehow is not. That's sad since I was hoping to buy one Anker or Aukey USB-C PD capable brick to charge G7 as fast as in can.
dropadred said:
2. I saw some mentions here that G7 supports 10W if not even 15W wireless charging, is that info verified? I am planning on buying a wireless charger (one at home, one at work), but I would like to know if there is pretty much any reason to buy 10 or even 15W chargers.
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As for fast wireless chargers somebody should open a thread in https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/accessories about choosing fast wireless chargers. Like this one which is stated as supporting LG V30 with Qi EPP

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