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Dear Community,
I just searched the past 2 days for a solution but I've not been lucky
Therefore I'd like to ask for help in this forum and hope there is some additional hint or hack I could try...:
So here's the situation:
OnePlus 5T (8/128) with a non booting or not "useful" OS (see last point what I've tried)
No TWRP or CWM
Stock Recovery present
Bootloader Locked
Allow Bootloader to be unlocked = FALSE
What I've already tried yet:
Flashing TWRP --> Not possible Bootloader Locked
Flashing regarding any other kinds like "update" or "flash all" as provided with TOOL_ALL_IN_ONE
ADB Sideload any available ROMS (Original "full" OP5T / FreedomOS / Omni8) --> ADB stops at 47% in Stock Recovery regardless of size of the ZIP file
Tried different versions of ADB (32 & 64 Bit / older & new / also with the LargeAddressAware approach / and on multiple PC's) --> Always same error (47%)
Stumbled upon the possibility to EmergencyDownload a factory flash due to Qualcomm chipset using the MSM-Download-Tool --> Only OnePlus 5 ROM available (no "T")
Mentioned EDL procedure works and OS is booting BUT neither Touchscreen nor USB OTG (for external mouse support) is working --> So I can't navigate and allow Bootloader to be unlocked again
Unfortunately I'm now stuck and have no more idea how to unbrick my phone again
What would help:
Any source to MSM-Download-Tool packed with a correct ROM for the OnePlus 5T
A Workaround to just flash TWRP via MSM-Download-Tool or Qualcomm's QFIL application in EDL mode
Some "hack" to bypass the locked Bootloader situation
Every appreciated Input you might have that I'm currently not aware of...
So PLEASE let me know of any approach that I could try or if you might have found a link or something else to a solution that might help me out of this disaster...
Many thanks in advance!
Tryouts due to your feedback:
@dreinulldrei - "fastboot boot recovery.img" tried with the original 5T Recovery.img also with blu_spark TWRP --> no luck...
SOLVED SOLUTION:
As the EDL factory flash ROM is currently not (or will never officially be) available public getting in contact with the OnePlus support team is required.
They have such a recovery tool (MSM-Download-Tool) with an appropriate ROM and are able to flash the device during a remote support session conducted via chat.
So by starting a chat on the OnePlus Support page and describing your situation will lead to scheduled time slot where a Level-2 technician will do all required steps remotely.
(All files are password protected and the technician ensures they are deleted at the end of the session so I'm unfortunately not able to provide the sources for DIY purposes...)
Following. I would think there would be some way to flash some sort of signed image via fastboot...
U flashed a 5 os to it, using the msmtool try to extract those files from 5t os, I will do it when I get home and so u can try it, i can't guarantee anything though, would u like me to do that for u
Bradl79 said:
U flashed a 5 os to it, using the msmtool try to extract those files from 5t os, I will do it when I get home and so u can try it, i can't guarantee anything though, would u like me to do that for u
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Thanks for your input - I'm really not aware of how to generate such *.ops ROM files as this is what the MSM Tool expects...
But if there is a way and you are able to extract and produce a MSM flashable file I would be very happy to try!
I would recommend trying to boot a OP5T recovery, you might have flashed some OP5 rom including OP5 recovery. Just go into fastboot (power on with volume up pressed down), then via cmd:
fastboot boot recovery.img
Since OP does not offer the recovery to be downloaded, it will need to be downloaded from a working device. Lacking the cable right where I am, but I am sure someone else can help out.
crakerjac said:
Following. I would think there would be some way to flash some sort of signed image via fastboot...
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Thanks for the input - I forgot to mention I also tried the 2 original available OP5T "full" ZIP ROM's (think they should be signed...)
Will add this to the initial Post but I assume also no chance here...
dreinulldrei said:
I would recommend trying to boot a OP5T recovery, you might have flashed some OP5 rom including OP5 recovery. Just go into fastboot (power on with volume up pressed down), then via cmd:
fastboot boot recovery.img
Since OP does not offer the recovery to be downloaded, it will need to be downloaded from a working device. Lacking the cable right where I am, but I am sure someone else can help out.
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Ohhh good point - I also think there is the "wrong" recovery (from 5) currently on my phone (because also there the touchscreen behaves unexpectedly...)
But unfortunately with your command I get the "Your device is corrupted. It can't be trusted and will not boot" message.
Tried this with the original 5T Recovery.img I managed to obtain and also with the blu_spark TWRP - no luck...
Edit: Ignore, misread previous post.
U may have to make a call to oneplus so they can restore for u
Submit a ticket to One Plus
You are going to have to submit a ticket, they will arrange a time to help you by unbricking the phone remotely.
I just had to do this myself this week, and it got done today.
I do have the 5t unbricking files but I cannot access the archive because it's password protected.
One important this you didn't mention is how this happened.
OnePlus may be able to help with this one, but all root guides explicitly include the phrase "at your own risk."
blackknightavalon said:
OnePlus may be able to help with this one, but all root guides explicitly include the phrase "at your own risk."
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Bradl79 said:
U may have to make a call to oneplus so they can restore for u
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WMerkens said:
You are going to have to submit a ticket, they will arrange a time to help you by unbricking the phone remotely.
I just had to do this myself this week, and it got done today.
I do have the 5t unbricking files but I cannot access the archive because it's password protected.
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Thanks for all your advice - so I will arrange a support chat/ticket as soon as possible and inform about the result in this thread.
Didn't thought that OnePlus Support Team would even care about such bricks (no warranty / own risk / "playing" with root / etc...)
But as indeed they seem to help like @WMerkens experienced I would be very happy to have a working device again
CodeXter said:
Thanks for all your advice - so I will arrange a support chat/ticket as soon as possible and inform about the result in this thread.
Didn't thought that OnePlus Support Team would even care about such bricks (no warranty / own risk / "playing" with root / etc...)
But as indeed they seem to help like @WMerkens experienced I would be very happy to have a working device again
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don't know why you would think that OP wouldn't help...they have said from day one that unlocking/rooting does not void your warranty. Heck they encourage it. I assume you are the same person on the OP forum w/ this problem. Hopefully after you get this resolved you will have learned to NEVER EVER RELOCK your phone unless you do the whole factory image qualcomm recovery tool bit. and experienced OP folks on this forum know any claims of a "hardbricked" OP phone is ALWAYS not true.
Yeah oneplus used to be good about and does a remote session to restore, this was back in the one plus one days though, but I think they still do it
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WMerkens said:
You are going to have to submit a ticket, they will arrange a time to help you by unbricking the phone remotely.
I just had to do this myself this week, and it got done today.
I do have the 5t unbricking files but I cannot access the archive because it's password protected.
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Awwww I wish we could get them, do they use the msmtool too?
How I bricked a 5t
I got the phone and I had installed twrp, that went fine. I was looking at magick systemless rooter when the phone then kicked in with a OTA update, I chose to ignore it the first time. It occurred again a few minutes and in my haste I let it do it's job but it did not complete correctly. I rebooted and the phone complained about corruption to the OS, I got in again but made the dumb mistake of re enabling the OEM lock and because I thought that might be causing the problem. I rebooted again but now I could not boot any more into the OS, it complained I was corrupted and go to google to see what to do.
So I was left with a bricked phone.
I could do bootloader but not recovery and I could not unlock the bootloader.
I could not get in via adb usb debug, So after much research I download the OnePlus 5 unbricking pack and learned a whole lot about qualicom and EDL mode, plus I learned a lot about the QFIL tools and restoring a phone. I did the 5 unbrick but my screen ended up upside down but the touch was right side up, which resulted in a very hard to use phone.
I tried the QFIL method but I was missing a mdb file to be able to talk to the phone.
So I gave up submitted a ticket and after much bad co-ordination on their part got a level 2 tech to debrick the phone remotely.
They do a reverse VPN and connect to your computer, they tell you to have 2 files archive ready in a folder on your desktop (they supply the links). They install the EDL driver and unpack the debrick archive. The archives are password protected, they run the tool and restore the phone
back to factory.
They erase the unpacked archives after they are done.
jerrywmilton said:
don't know why you would think that OP wouldn't help...they have said from day one that unlocking/rooting does not void your warranty. Heck they encourage it. I assume you are the same person on the OP forum w/ this problem. Hopefully after you get this resolved you will have learned to NEVER EVER RELOCK your phone unless you do the whole factory image qualcomm recovery tool bit. and experienced OP folks on this forum know any claims of a "hardbricked" OP phone is ALWAYS not true.
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Oh yes I've learned my lesson on this :angel: --> Never ever set OEM to be unlocked to NO again
Obviously I do not exactly know what wrong procedure made me stuck in this situation but I just wanted to revert every single step back one by one to see which element brings me back to a valid SafetyNet situation...
I've been with the OnePlus "family" since the OP1 but never needed any direct support from the vendor - so every time there's a first time and so for me now...
Thus I really didn't know OP staff is actively doing remote support for their devices - but thumbs up for that! :good:
(BTW: I'm not the guy from the OP forum)
Bradl79 said:
Yeah oneplus used to be good about and does a remote session to restore, this was back in the one plus one days though, but I think they still do it
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Awwww I wish we could get them, do they use the msmtool too?
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Yes basically it's the same archive as the 5 unbrick pack but it's for 5t, OnePlus 5T OxygenOS 4.7.2-171116.zip is the archive and you can look in it and you see the ops file is for dumpling not cheesburger, which is the code name for 5t. I saw the MsmDownloadTool is 4.0.8
Bradl79 said:
Yeah oneplus used to be good about and does a remote session to restore, this was back in the one plus one days though, but I think they still do it
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Awwww I wish we could get them, do they use the msmtool too?
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I just had a chat with them before and got mailed a link to the MSMTool incl. ROM for the OP5T (dumpling)
But unfortunatley support files from OnePlus are password protected Nevertheless here the original vendor link:
https://onepluscn-my.sharepoint.com/personal/sheva_liu_oneplus_net/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?docid=0fde9596c72744b4fb9c073ca5d87edbe&authkey=AQPXKRi7pdIzZX-5WH_pwWg&e=1030aa0046da4d1aa9189020027d9c93
So I have to wait for my remote support schedule on Saturday to have the L2 technician entering the password and do the rest.
Would be able to do this myself but OnePlus obviously wants to protect their sources what I have to accept, respect and be patient for...
So, never turn off the OEM Unlocking?
So, somebody please help me. I had the chinese rom. fully updated.
I have no idea wich version it was but i belive most likely it was the last one since i got the telephone last week and updated it.
so, coming from mi max 1 and then mi max 2 i installed TWRP and booted into recovery
and tried to flash eu global rom but it came out as an error and i downloaded a few roms and tried but no sucess in flashing them and then suddenly the screen went black and i can hear it connect and it will show up in miflash but as for now i dont have the recovery files
and am downloading them at the moment.
I remember running into a similar issue on my mimax 2 or 1 and then i needed to flash it using adb and running the flash system commandoes.
But i forgot them and im sure some of you have done this so can anyone help me finding a recovery fastboot files and give me a either miflash supported file to use or adb files and then the commandoes to flash it all back?
it was something like
system flash
recovery flash
boot flash
etc
But i dont have the files for recovery fastboot
and the commandoes are lost for me.
It was like flashing in EDL mode i belive, if i can remember,
I really screwed up and since the telephone is so new its hard to find the files needed.
Thank you and please excuse my bad English.
The one getting me back ill paypal you a beer.
veralynn said:
i downloaded a few roms and tried but no sucess in flashing them and then suddenly the screen went black
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Which other roms did you try to install?
Latest china official roms have Anti-rollback enabled, so you have to be careful about what rom you trying to install otherwise your device will be hard bricked (if not bricked already).
If your device has bricked by anti-rollback, you need to flash in EDL mode, but EDL mode is blocked on Mi Max 3, so you need a Xiaomi EDL authorized account to flash with it.
Anyway, here is the link of the latest fastboot china stable rom http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.6.12.0....EDCNFD_20180820.0000.00_8.1_cn_5e8d0ddf88.tgz
You can give it a try with MiFlash Tool.
My max 3 was bricked as well on Sat, no boot, no recovery, no fastboot.
You just need to download the fastboot of 8.9.20 china dev, install Qualcomm driver, then use Miflash to flash ur phone again in EDL mode. That's all.
dinhvtai said:
My max 3 was bricked as well on Sat, no boot, no recovery, no fastboot.
You just need to download the fastboot of 8.9.20 china dev, install Qualcomm driver, then use Miflash to flash ur phone again in EDL mode. That's all.
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Can you help me findig the link to dev rom?
I am really really lost..
Been at this things for 24 hours now, and i was working on my fiancees phone at the same time so after twrp my own i did his, and then of course we both have black screens now in download mode, and there is nothing i have done that
will get me back to fastboot or to twrp.
If i hold in power it just kinda restarts download mode i can hear on my computer as it make the Plug in plug out sound from the Usb.
I have already gotten a lot of ugly stare downs from my fiancee now and i really cannot afford buying two new phones and of course i shouldnt need to either as since they are in black screen download mode they can be flashed, but i need the file you sir are talking about and also if you can say wich kind of miflash you used and etc i would be very happy and im seriuous about that paypal buying you a beer and what not thing.
I am going on vacation in few days also so i desperately need the phones to work or its not gonna be any happy vacation and definetly not any "happy times" either. so please help out!!
I am also equipped with teamwiewer if necessary,
Also, i opened up my own telephone and tried shorting out the two connectors inside, "testpoint" but it didnt give any difference at all, and i am out of ideas.
And of course now it seems i have searched so long for the correct files i cant find anything any longer as im stuck.
so .- yeah. Please get me out of this mess.
this is the link of 8.9.20 (latest) dev fastboot: http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.20/nitrogen_images_8.9.20_20180920.0000.00_8.1_cn_7c2f993484.tgz
For MiFlash, just google "MiFlash 2018" and download the Portable version, that's enough.
For Qualcomm driver, google "QDLoader HS-USB Driver" and download/install it.
Make sure that you can enter the EDL mode, if you do it right, you will see the device as "Qualcomm 9008" (cannot remember exactly the name) and Miflash will recognize the COM port then you are good to move forward.
dinhvtai said:
this is the link of 8.9.20 (latest) dev fastboot: http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.9.20/nitrogen_images_8.9.20_20180920.0000.00_8.1_cn_7c2f993484.tgz
For MiFlash, just google "MiFlash 2018" and download the Portable version, that's enough.
For Qualcomm driver, google "QDLoader HS-USB Driver" and download/install it.
Make sure that you can enter the EDL mode, if you do it right, you will see the device as "Qualcomm 9008" (cannot remember exactly the name) and Miflash will recognize the COM port then you are good to move forward.
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you just earned urself a beer.
i flashed my telephone sucessfully.
seems forgetting to log out of miaccount is a really dumb thing to do as i now cant flash my fiancees as his telephone is not binded to my laptop, and his is not been used before.
the miflash asked me to log in, wich was succesful but its stuck in edl autitenctation and has been now for a while.
but can i flash global rom now??
and if so, how can i do it and not brick it again?
im guessing you want more than one beer??
Fashing the other it says unautoriszed xiaomiaccount..
Solutions??
veralynn said:
you just earned urself a beer.
i flashed my telephone sucessfully.
seems forgetting to log out of miaccount is a really dumb thing to do as i now cant flash my fiancees as his telephone is not binded to my laptop, and his is not been used before.
the miflash asked me to log in, wich was succesful but its stuck in edl autitenctation and has been now for a while.
but can i flash global rom now??
and if so, how can i do it and not brick it again?
im guessing you want more than one beer??
Fashing the other it says unautoriszed xiaomiaccount..
Solutions??
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Xiaomi has locked the account of the other phone, you need a Mi Authorized Account, which is not easy to find and is paid of course. Don't flash Global Stable over your China Dev, unless you unlocked bootloader officially. But you have the option to flash Xiaomi.eu rom, if your bootloader is unlocked. If not - don't.
veralynn said:
you just earned urself a beer.
i flashed my telephone sucessfully.
seems forgetting to log out of miaccount is a really dumb thing to do as i now cant flash my fiancees as his telephone is not binded to my laptop, and his is not been used before.
the miflash asked me to log in, wich was succesful but its stuck in edl autitenctation and has been now for a while.
but can i flash global rom now??
and if so, how can i do it and not brick it again?
im guessing you want more than one beer??
Fashing the other it says unautoriszed xiaomiaccount..
Solutions??
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I do not really understand your current issue. A picture will be better? In case if you forgot to logout, it's ok, you just need to input the password of that account.
Anyway, you cannot flash Global stable 9.6.6 (MIUI 9) over the 8.9.20 (MIUI 10 - antirollback activated), it will brick again.
martin.burgas said:
Xiaomi has locked the account of the other phone, you need a Mi Authorized Account, which is not easy to find and is paid of course. Don't flash Global Stable over your China Dev, unless you unlocked bootloader officially. But you have the option to flash Xiaomi.eu rom, if your bootloader is unlocked. If not - don't.
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Both telephones are unlocked by the belonging miaccounts.
I have run the unlock tool on them both of course before doing the TWRP and then someplace something got messed up, not sure yet and made me in this mess.
What i have done in difference on my phone and the other is that i have opened up mine and short circuited lol almost all check points inside it and after the last link mentioned here with the rom it worked.
but im not sure if it was the testpoint trick at all as that really didnt give any information about anything changed or not.
What im trying to do here now is to somehow flash this edl phone left back to china dev without me opening it up and do the testpoint wich i have no idea helped me or not.
I can try the unlock tool again see if it recognize any phones.
all help appreciated.
Try flashing China 8.8.30 of the other phone, maybe it will skip asking for Mi authorized acc. I have red somewhere it worked .
OK-
So i can hereby confirm that TESTPOINT is working.
So if you have bricked your phone into edl mode download mode and there is NO WAY you can flash it using miflash or twrp or anything, you can open it up and unplug the battery, short cut the testpoints wich in my case was my fumbling around everyone with a wire and then
retry connecting the battery and reflash.
I also tried testpoint with battery connected. I have NO IDEA if that was the case or not.
But i managed to get back my phones, but of course i nicked one screen so im guessing im gonna need to sell this and rebuy a new one with global as to keep the housepeace intact.
So- i will try and rewrite this into something that can be sticked to the front. Including pictures.
So, if I understand correctly, without the testpoint method, MiFlash was asking you for an authorized xiaomi account but with the testpoint there is no need for authorization?
panospc said:
So, if I understand correctly, without the testpoint method, MiFlash was asking you for an authorized xiaomi account but with the testpoint there is no need for authorization?
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Well. Good question.
Seems like it doesn't need something else than unlock.
But verified account, its really not a big deal.
Just create a miaccount beforehand and wait the 500 or so hours to unlock.
If you screw up something just testpoint it.
But i was logged into the account on the telephone on miflash. But wasnt verified the laptop i used so i couldn't flash.
But with testpoint Wich was kinda nervewrecking i fixed them both. Again.
I will wait for global official rom before doing this again.
My mi Max 3 is unlocked and bricked. Computer detects it as 9008 and mi flash. When i flash 8.9.2 cn dev rom, it is stuck on dummy.img. It is stuck on dummy.img in other firmware versions as well. How can i fix it ?
Edit : solved by Flashing with QFIL.
Flashed mine to stock global rom.
I was so nervous as hell.
Downloaded the official global and didnt even have the nerves to twrp it.
Do i Flashed it using xiaomi mi flasher and it worked.
Dont feel like messing more with it now...
You didn't take a pic of the test points you shorted by any chance did you? I'm sure that will hep out some people.
Thanks
seti007 said:
You didn't take a pic of the test points you shorted by any chance did you? I'm sure that will hep out some people.
Thanks
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Try my method before trying to open up your phone with test point method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/how-to/to-youre-stuck-edl-mode-black-screen-t3837846/page2
hi,
A70 is now widely sold, i try to buy one soonest but just waiting for root and twrp. it is still empty here on xda...
i found a link show how to root and install
https://myphoneupdate.com/samsung-galaxy-a70-twrp-recovery/
can i ask if some one already tried as above? looks like a copy method for all kind of phones ...
tks.
Most likely fake, the article was published a month ago. A70 only got released on 26th March.
I would definitely wait until someone posts a technique here; I tend to trust the experts here, but not so much everywhere else on the internet. I would prefer to wait a few weeks and put with an unrooted device, rather than possibly end up with a bricked (or hijacked) device.
Andre
ok i will wait...
it was like this, waited for s10+, came twrp but didnot like camera hole and waiting for A70, then waiting for twrp, then oneplus7pro release, then wait a bit for its twrp, till then note 10 pro comes soon, then wait for twrp of it....
and after 2+ year still using note8 LOL
amk said:
hi,
A70 is now widely sold, i try to buy one soonest but just waiting for root and twrp. it is still empty here on xda...
i found a link show how to root and install
https://myphoneupdate.com/samsung-galaxy-a70-twrp-recovery/
can i ask if some one already tried as above? looks like a copy method for all kind of phones ...
tks.
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First thing I tried ofcourse, rooting the A70, but... follow the steps in the manual yourself, and you'll see that you get stuck on step 3:
3.) After That Download TWRP Recovery https://twrp.me File On Your PC And Renamed The Downloaded Recovery File Name To twrp.img.
But there is no TWRP Recovery available for the A70
I also tried the A50 manual, but that also fails (stuck on OEM lock). I can install CROM Service, but it crashes.
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First thing I tried ofcourse, rooting the A70, but... follow the steps in the manual yourself, and you'll see that you get stuck on step 3:
3.) After That Download TWRP Recovery https://twrp.me File On Your PC And Renamed The Downloaded Recovery File Name To twrp.img.
But there is no TWRP Recovery available for the A70
I also tried the A50 manual, but that also fails (stuck on OEM lock). I can install CROM Service, but it crashes.
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don't follow some clickbait website's...
wait for a proper and trusted dev to release twrp. the phones has barely hit the market it will take a few weeks (if not months) at least till someone builds an twrp. one think you could provide us with would be some information. is the bootloader unlockable?
In devsettings is a possible to unlock oem. Try this before flashing twrp. If twrp flashed ok, I think need to wipe all data, include internal storage, then flash DM-VERITY, FORCE ENCRYPTION, AND DISC QUOTA DISABLER
zackptg5.com/android.php
I don't try it by myself. But you can try it, if you just buy the phone, and have not important data on it
What about this guide is it worth trying or not really possible? https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html
Avicohen21 said:
What about this guide is it worth trying or not really possible? https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html
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Need to try
hello everyone I find a good deal on galaxy a70 is anyone succeed in rooting?
celoxocis said:
... is the bootloader unlockable?
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i have opened 2 sealed box of A70 and there was no OEM unlock option in developer mode. then got another with tick to choose. baterry is so good but look like i have touch panel issue. waiting for update and then root, twrp...
amk said:
i have opened 2 sealed box of A70 and there was no OEM unlock option in developer mode.
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Mine (bought direct from Samsung UK) has the OEM Unlock option in the Developer Options menu. Not tried it yet, not really much point until there is a reliable and tested root out there.
Andre
Hey guys manegd to root with this guide https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#samsung-system-as-root
Seems to work good I'll notify if I'll notice any bugs. If you have twrp porting guide send me and I'll try to Port. If you want I can open a new thread with more details and upload the AP file I used. BTW I have the Israeli version SM-705FN
Avicohen21 said:
Hey guys manegd to root with this guide https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#samsung-system-as-root
Seems to work good I'll notify if I'll notice any bugs. If you have twrp porting guide send me and I'll try to Port. If you want I can open a new thread with more details and upload the AP file I used. BTW I have the Israeli version SM-705FN
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make a topic please
sanakess said:
make a topic please
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Ok when I get home I'll open a thread with detailed explanation of what I did
Samsung account
Hello. My dumbass bought used A70 with samsung account. I can't make a factory reset, because it needs password from old owner account which i don't know. But I have my Google account on that phone and Google find my device enabled. Will I need to enter samsung account information when I make a reset via Google find my device? So when reset is made, phone will be locked only by FRP? And then when I login in my old Google account can i create a new Samsung account or do I need to login in existing that was on that phone first? Sorry for offtopic.
Any news about TWRP? SuperSu or Magisk?
Hello All, still can't find TWRP for sm-a705fn
Can I flash TWRP for another Exynos phone, like Galaxy 9, to my A70 ?
Also, can I still use SuperSu with Pie/A70 ? I failed to root my previous Galaxy Tab8 with custom Pie using SuperSU, had to root with Magisk instead,
it worked just fine, but the link to topjohnwu mentioned in previous posts, tells scary things about Samsung/Pie/Magisk -
like, I have to switch between two recoveries... Is that really the case?
I haven't noticed any issue with Tab8/Pie/Magisk, but SuperSu would be still more familiar to me.
used2brick said:
Hello All, still can't find TWRP for sm-a705fn
Can I flash TWRP for another Exynos phone, like Galaxy 9, to my A70 ?
Also, can I still use SuperSu with Pie/A70 ? I failed to root my previous Galaxy Tab8 with custom Pie using SuperSU, had to root with Magisk instead,
it worked just fine, but the link to topjohnwu mentioned in previous posts, tells scary things about Samsung/Pie/Magisk -
like, I have to switch between two recoveries... Is that really the case?
I haven't noticed any issue with Tab8/Pie/Magisk, but SuperSu would be still more familiar to me.
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No, you can't use twrp for a different device, and don't use SuperSU neither. It was sold by chainfire to a Chinese company years ago and have been basically abandoned since 2017. I'm pretty sure Magisk is the better choice on any device running android 5 - 9.
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Hello,
The problem with the post you mentioned is that there is no valid twrp attached. And I noticed that only Odin detects the fastboot mode of this device. If you enable USB debugging let's say, the command "adb devices" will detect the device and list it; whereas, if you reboot it to bootloader mode(fastboot), the command fastboot devices doesn't detect the phone. So in fastboot mode, only Odin will detect the device. Meaning, that the post of fake and not tested.
Regards,
Wael
amk said:
i have opened 2 sealed box of A70 and there was no OEM unlock option in developer mode. then got another with tick to choose. baterry is so good but look like i have touch panel issue. waiting for update and then root, twrp...
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That's weird. I do have the Bootloader unlock option in the developer settings and can do/undo it just fine. Looks like Samsung is using different Firmware versions on the A70?
Just got a Redmi Note 8 Pro with Global ROM and discovered that call recording won't work due to Google/Android Pie limitations.
After some searching, I found (on this forum) that the Indonesia ROM supports call recording on this phone.
Here are my questions:
1. Will burning a different ROM affect my warranty?
2. Will I lose any functionality by switching from Global to Indonesia ROM, and if so, what? Specifically, will NFC functionality be affected?
3. If I ever do a factory reset, will the phone revert to Global ROM?
4. I found the Indonesia ROM files here. There are three files called Recovery, OTA, and Fastboot. Do I need them all? If so, do they need to be burned in any specific order?
5. Where can I find complete instructions for burning the Indonesia ROM? I am new to Xiaomi, and the last time I burned a ROM to a phone was 5 years ago (Samsung); I don't remember anything, so I'd like instructions that assume nothing and don't skip any steps (instructions for intelligent dummies). I found these instructions for installing TWRP, but there's nothing about what to do next, and there's a list of pre-requisites with no explanations (Unlocked Bootloader, Phone Drivers, ADB and Fastboot Drivers), making the instructions insufficient for a noob like me.
Thanks much.
yossidme said:
Just got a Redmi Note 8 Pro with Global ROM and discovered that call recording won't work due to Google/Android Pie limitations.
After some searching, I found (on this forum) that the Indonesia ROM supports call recording on this phone.
Here are my questions:
1. Will burning a different ROM affect my warranty?
2. Will I lose any functionality by switching from Global to Indonesia ROM, and if so, what? Specifically, will NFC functionality be affected?
3. If I ever do a factory reset, will the phone revert to Global ROM?
4. I found the Indonesia ROM files here. There are three files called Recovery, OTA, and Fastboot. Do I need them all? If so, do they need to be burned in any specific order?
5. Where can I find complete instructions for burning the Indonesia ROM? I am new to Xiaomi, and the last time I burned a ROM to a phone was 5 years ago (Samsung); I don't remember anything, so I'd like instructions that assume nothing and don't skip any steps (instructions for intelligent dummies). I found these instructions for installing TWRP, but there's nothing about what to do next, and there's a list of pre-requisites with no explanations (Unlocked Bootloader, Phone Drivers, ADB and Fastboot Drivers), making the instructions insufficient for a noob like me.
Thanks much.
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Hey,
Before going any further you first need to make sure what region is your phone. Is it a Chinese phone (bought from AliExpress for example) or a real Global phone (bought from a local store/official retail). Because you could very well own a Chinese phone shipped with a Global Rom flashed on it and this could result in some problems for you in terms of what you can do with it and how you can do it.
If you bought/received a phone with already unlocked bootloader, you should return it.
Unlocking bootloader should only be done by you when you need it.
1. Technically unlocking bootloader, ESSENTIAL step prior flashing anything, void your warranty.
However and that's what is interesting, if at some point you decide to flash back your original region rom (here Global) and lock back bootloader, none will know but Xiaomi servers you once unlocked this device certainly not a local reseller. So in term of warranty you should be safe, that is of course unless you brick your phone doing stuff you were not supposed to do with a locked bootloader if you are following.
2. If not mistaking, I think you loose NFC. Indian phones for sure do not have NFC at all, for their version, the chip was replaced with a 2nd SIM card tray (not shared). Not sure if you read the functionality afterward using rooted tricks.
3. No that does not work this way. When you are running a Rom, any version, if you factory reset that room, you just return to installation screen of that given Rom.
To return to Global Rom, you will need to reflash that Global Rom using the same method you did successfully flashing the Indonesian Rom (or any other rom) for example.
Would be wise to first download the exact version of the Rom you are currently using on your phone for archives purpose (BURN IT on good quality medias!) to revert back to it when/if needed. You can also archives OTA updates of that version you may not have taken yet to apply them manually if you ever revert back to that Global Rom and want to.
4. Different versions depends on what you are doing. In your case Fastboot version is what you need at the moment. You can find all different kind of versions of Roms for your RN8PRO on that site
As for the way to flash them, order and everything, you will need to look for guides online,
I dont think any order matters, just make sure to flash them all before rebooting disconnecting device. But if you are unsure of what you are doing, you'd be probably best using a tool such as MiFlash.
5. Here you can find one from the MIUI community website guiding you through the use of MiFlash to flash a stock Rom on your device.
Just note you do not have to use any tools to flash the .images of all partitions, you can easily doing it from command line using fastboot flash command one after an other.
Also note that installing TWRP is usually not needed to flash stock Roms (unlike flashing custom roms). Trying to mess up with the recovery partition is actually what seem to brick most of the devices.
However please note UNLOCKING your BOOTLOADER is MENDATORY.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
doesnt matter if you switch to any rom variant .i have switched mine to indonesian ,europe and indian and alll worked fine execpt indian version felt a bit laggy .just download the fastboot version of the rom and flash it through mi flash tool xiaomiflash .your bootloader needs to be unlocked and dont forget to check cleann all button in mi flash and dont check clean and lock
I have got global version and changed imei with unlocked bootloader. Can i flash indonesian rom without lose f my imei?
Thanks in advance for your answers
Muad.Dib,
Thanks for your detailed reply.
If I understand correctly, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty just the same as rooting the phone, so if all I want is to get call recording, I may as well just root the phone and save the bother of flashing a different ROM.
Does that make sense to you, or do you see any advantage to flashing a different stock ROM instead of just rooting the phone? From past experience I've seen that rooting has additional benefits anyway.
BTW, I bought my phone on Banggood. It was advertised as Global ROM, and that appears to be what it has. As soon as I turned the phone on it updated to MIUI Global 11.0.2.1; I don't know what version it was before the update.
Muad.Dib said:
Hey,
Before going any further you first need to make sure what region is your phone. Is it a Chinese phone (bought from AliExpress for example) or a real Global phone (bought from a local store/official retail). Because you could very well own a Chinese phone shipped with a Global Rom flashed on it and this could result in some problems for you in terms of what you can do with it and how you can do it.
If you bought/received a phone with already unlocked bootloader, you should return it.
Unlocking bootloader should only be done by you when you need it.
1. Technically unlocking bootloader, ESSENTIAL step prior flashing anything, void your warranty.
However and that's what is interesting, if at some point you decide to flash back your original region rom (here Global) and lock back bootloader, none will know but Xiaomi servers you once unlocked this device certainly not a local reseller. So in term of warranty you should be safe, that is of course unless you brick your phone doing stuff you were not supposed to do with a locked bootloader if you are following.
2. If not mistaking, I think you loose NFC. Indian phones for sure do not have NFC at all, for their version, the chip was replaced with a 2nd SIM card tray (not shared). Not sure if you read the functionality afterward using rooted tricks.
3. No that does not work this way. When you are running a Rom, any version, if you factory reset that room, you just return to installation screen of that given Rom.
To return to Global Rom, you will need to reflash that Global Rom using the same method you did successfully flashing the Indonesian Rom (or any other rom) for example.
Would be wise to first download the exact version of the Rom you are currently using on your phone for archives purpose (BURN IT on good quality medias!) to revert back to it when/if needed. You can also archives OTA updates of that version you may not have taken yet to apply them manually if you ever revert back to that Global Rom and want to.
4. Different versions depends on what you are doing. In your case Fastboot version is what you need at the moment. You can find all different kind of versions of Roms for your RN8PRO on that site
As for the way to flash them, order and everything, you will need to look for guides online,
I dont think any order matters, just make sure to flash them all before rebooting disconnecting device. But if you are unsure of what you are doing, you'd be probably best using a tool such as MiFlash.
5. Here you can find one from the MIUI community website guiding you through the use of MiFlash to flash a stock Rom on your device.
Just note you do not have to use any tools to flash the .images of all partitions, you can easily doing it from command line using fastboot flash command one after an other.
Also note that installing TWRP is usually not needed to flash stock Roms (unlike flashing custom roms). Trying to mess up with the recovery partition is actually what seem to brick most of the devices.
However please note UNLOCKING your BOOTLOADER is MENDATORY.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
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Did you check if NFC works with Indonesian ROM?
maanni said:
doesnt matter if you switch to any rom variant .i have switched mine to indonesian ,europe and indian and alll worked fine execpt indian version felt a bit laggy .just download the fastboot version of the rom and flash it through mi flash tool xiaomiflash .your bootloader needs to be unlocked and dont forget to check cleann all button in mi flash and dont check clean and lock
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yossidme said:
Muad.Dib,
Thanks for your detailed reply.
If I understand correctly, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty just the same as rooting the phone, so if all I want is to get call recording, I may as well just root the phone and save the bother of flashing a different ROM.
Does that make sense to you, or do you see any advantage to flashing a different stock ROM instead of just rooting the phone? From past experience I've seen that rooting has additional benefits anyway.
BTW, I bought my phone on Banggood. It was advertised as Global ROM, and that appears to be what it has. As soon as I turned the phone on it updated to MIUI Global 11.0.2.1; I don't know what version it was before the update.
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You're welcome, I am happy if I was useful to you in any kind of ways.
Well yes and no. Yes apparently you 'could' achieve call recording when rooted (yet I still fail doing so even if I installed the default MUI apps module I got from Telegram group. The setting to automatic recording is set to on yes, but I dont see recordings in the supposed destination folder nor I can see a simple button to record any voicecall I used to have on older versions of Android. Me failing to make it work - I did not try very hard to be honest - does not mean you cannot find someone who succeeded into doing so in that telegram group for RN8PRO).
That said it would not be a 'native' solution, just a patch/workaround. If it works well great, if not, well...
On an other hand by flashing to a Rom which does support it natively, well you are covered for the use you need.
So the advantage I see (with the included disadvantages) is better support for the function which is not supported for privacy reasons en Glob/EU market.
Does that come at a price?
Probably.
For example are you ready to trade off NFC for native call recording support? That may be a choice you have to make in the end. Again that said, if you root your phone on that new Rom, install NFC drivers manually as root (I see no reasons why that would not be possible after all) you may be able to patch NFC on that other Rom since unlike Indonesians market phone, you do have NFC hardware.
For example, myself, I wish I could have made that kind of bargain/trade off, giving up that NFC feature I have no need for, to get 8GB or Ram + 2x Sims + SD and not an hybrid tray. Unfortunately that's not the kind of trade I could make here in EU unless I would have ordered directly from Amazon.in (assuming that would have been possible) or third party website, but that was not possible for warranty reasons among other things.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
yossidme said:
Did you check if NFC works with Indonesian ROM?
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Yes it does as it is officially available in every variant expect indian variant.
UPDATE:
I finally had the time to test the MIUI-default-apps Magisk module available for download on Telegram group, originally made for MIUI 11.0.1.0, and it works properly on MIUI 11.0.2.0 EEA. Does not require changing Rom.
Hope this helps.
Well, I have finally started the process, but got stymied by the Bootloader Unlock tool (Couldn't unlock. Please unlock 168 hours later.). Quite frustrating. I see that a lot of people have this problem and had to try again more than once, waiting a week between attempts.
Is there a workaround or do I just have to wait a week and hope for the best?
Also, assuming all goes well and I eventually manage to unlock the bootloader and flash the Indonesia ROM, do I use the same tool to re-lock the bootloader (in order to restore the security of the phone)?
And if I want to unlock again in the future, will I again possibly get the "wait and try again next week" message, or does that only happen the first time?
Thanks.
Muad.Dib said:
UPDATE:
I finally had the time to test the MIUI-default-apps Magisk module available for download on Telegram group, originally made for MIUI 11.0.1.0, and it works properly on MIUI 11.0.2.0 EEA. Does not require changing Rom.
Hope this helps.
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yossidme said:
Well, I have finally started the process, but got stymied by the Bootloader Unlock tool (Couldn't unlock. Please unlock 168 hours later.). Quite frustrating. I see that a lot of people have this problem and had to try again more than once, waiting a week between attempts.
Is there a workaround or do I just have to wait a week and hope for the best?
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No workaround, you just have to wait (and yes I know how freaking frustrating it was for me...). You can even start meditation classes meanwhile it helps
yossidme said:
Also, assuming all goes well and I eventually manage to unlock the bootloader and flash the Indonesia ROM, do I use the same tool to re-lock the bootloader (in order to restore the security of the phone)?
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It depends on what your the flavor of the phone you got. You may want to have a look at that other thread Relock bootloader after flashing ROM Indonesia where we actually covered this exact subject
The good thing about that 7 days wait period is you can gather all the intel you need to be 100% ready when the time come to seriously mess up with things.
So you know, once your bootloader is unlocked, first thing you will want to do BEFORE anything else, is blow off that security which needed Auth Account to unbrick account (ONLY WORKS FOR PIE, ANDROID 9 MIUI VERSION BEWARE).
All information is here: [GUIDE][INFO][PSA] Redmi Note 8 Pro - Megathread
yossidme said:
And if I want to unlock again in the future, will I again possibly get the "wait and try again next week" message, or does that only happen the first time?
Thanks.
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The waiting time is for one time only (THANKS GOD!).
So if you relock, beside having to get your hands on the unlock tool once again and have added the same infos as for the first time in the phone, you will be able to unlock right away.
That's at least a good news
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Muad.Dib said:
UPDATE:
I finally had the time to test the MIUI-default-apps Magisk module available for download on Telegram group, originally made for MIUI 11.0.1.0, and it works properly on MIUI 11.0.2.0 EEA. Does not require changing Rom.
Hope this helps.
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My friend,
Would you like be so kind and share that magisk module with others or maybe just indicate the spot where I can get it? I would love to try this out. THX
kamyk70 said:
My friend,
Would you like be so kind and share that magisk module with others or maybe just indicate the spot where I can get it? I would love to try this out. THX
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Yes of course.
It is a module you can find on the Telegram group called "Redmi Note 8 Pro | OFFICIAL".
Like me you will have to go in there even if you do not use Telegram.
Once there and you got the /notes it is called the default apps.
I cannot share it myself here because I am not the developer of that module, as you can understand that's against forums policies.
All I can tell you is it works correctly on EEA MIUI 11.0.2.0.
Good luck!
Hope this helps.
Muad.Dib said:
Yes of course.
It is a module you can find on the Telegram group called "Redmi Note 8 Pro | OFFICIAL".
Like me you will have to go in there even if you do not use Telegram.
Once there and you got the /notes it is called the default apps.
I cannot share it myself here because I am not the developer of that module, as you can understand that's against forums policies.
All I can tell you is it works correctly on EEA MIUI 11.0.2.0.
Good luck!
Hope this helps.
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Thanks man, I got it! ?
I have disovered that there are different NGC protocols and that my Redmi Note 8 Pro does not read NFC cards of some protocols. I'm wondering if it might not be a driver issue. where would I look for NFC drivers?
Thanks
Muad.Dib said:
For example are you ready to trade off NFC for native call recording support? That may be a choice you have to make in the end. Again that said, if you root your phone on that new Rom, install NFC drivers manually as root (I see no reasons why that would not be possible after all) you may be able to patch NFC on that other Rom since unlike Indonesians market phone, you do have NFC hardware.
Regards,
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kamyk70 said:
Thanks man, I got it!
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You are much welcome, glad I could help
Regards
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yossidme said:
I have disovered that there are different NGC protocols and that my Redmi Note 8 Pro does not read NFC cards of some protocols. I'm wondering if it might not be a driver issue. where would I look for NFC drivers?
Thanks
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Sadly I have no idea. I think you should make a new thread about this to get more visibility and probably more answers from people who actually knows the answer.
Hope this help.
Regards.
Muad.Dib said:
UPDATE:
I finally had the time to test the MIUI-default-apps Magisk module available for download on Telegram group, originally made for MIUI 11.0.1.0, and it works properly on MIUI 11.0.2.0 EEA. Does not require changing Rom.
Hope this helps.
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Hi can you share more details???IS IT SAFE?? I want miui message and call apps not Google's one... How can i have them without changing ROM to Indonesian??? Now i have global ROM.
yossidme said:
Did you check if NFC works with Indonesian ROM?
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yup it is working perfectly fine on indonesian rom as i am still using it
Alisoofi said:
Hi can you share more details???IS IT SAFE?? I want miui message and call apps not Google's one... How can i have them without changing ROM to Indonesian??? Now i have global ROM.
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Hey,
Sorry was AFK for a while. In case you still need answer, going to reply just in case.
Well there is not much to add, you simply install the module from within Magisk once it installed, you reboot, and it works out of the box, you go in the settings and you set it as you like.
Good luck!
Do i need to root before installing it ?
Do i need to root before installing it ?
hi guys. Someone pls help me and provide me detailed instructions as to how to flash stock ROM. i have bought MI 11x indian variant. some of the xiaomi websites are blocked in India. pls provide me a link ( preferrably GDrive or Media fire) to xiaomi mi flash tool for flashing stock ROMs and official stock ROM download links. i want to install custom ROMs( in 2 days bootloader unlock tool timer will expire and i will be able to unlock bootloader). so i want to know how to revert back to Stock ROM just in case something happens when flashing custom ROMS. How do i flash firmware only? and also do we need any authorisation to use mi flash tool to flash stock ROM?
Suhaas said:
hi guys. Someone pls help me and provide me detailed instructions as to how to flash stock ROM. i have bought MI 11x indian variant. some of the xiaomi websites are blocked in India. pls provide me a link ( preferrably GDrive or Media fire) to xiaomi mi flash tool for flashing stock ROMs and official stock ROM download links. i want to install custom ROMs( in 2 days bootloader unlock tool timer will expire and i will be able to unlock bootloader). so i want to know how to revert back to Stock ROM just in case something happens when flashing custom ROMS. How do i flash firmware only? and also do we need any authorisation to use mi flash tool to flash stock ROM?
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Sorry fella, I've not got Mi11x. Although I understand they're besaically the same device (i have poco F3), i wouldn't want to advise on flashing in case there are any differences... plus this is the first xiaomi since some years ago, so i'm a little vague too. That said i won't advising on flashing, you'll have to do your own research. What i am here for is to offer my mega account folder where i've uploaded MiFlash Tool, MiFlash Pro and XiaoMiTool V2. These are all the tools i am aware of.
i've included the other two not to confuse you but in the past i've found where one failed, another succeeded. eg the original MiFlash here has in the past failed for some reason (can't remember why now), so used the 3rd party MiFlash Pro, which also contains the MiFlash tool (not sure which version) under one of its tabs. That tool worked. Also XiaoMi Tool V2 is another 3 party tool for getting you out of trouble, though hopefully you won't need it!
No need to sign into your account to use these tools, even though it prompts to.
Also, when flashing with MiFlash, make sure you select 'clean all' at the bottom right corner, NOT 'clean all and lock'
here's a link to said folder with tools in it. Let us know if you can't use mega in India.
Also, let me know which roms you need from where for your device, i'll download them and re-up them to mega (assuming that works for you), failing that gdrive.
One more thing, in order to download your current stock rom, like you say, in case there's some issue, be good to know which build you are currently on...
this thread may be of use to you...
can you access this site for instruction?
reg66 said:
Sorry fella, I've not got Mi11x. Although I understand they're besaically the same device (i have poco F3), i wouldn't want to advise on flashing in case there are any differences... plus this is the first xiaomi since some years ago, so i'm a little vague too. That said i won't advising on flashing, you'll have to do your own research. What i am here for is to offer my mega account folder where i've uploaded MiFlash Tool, MiFlash Pro and XiaoMiTool V2. These are all the tools i am aware of.
i've included the other two not to confuse you but in the past i've found where one failed, another succeeded. eg the original MiFlash here has in the past failed for some reason (can't remember why now), so used the 3rd party MiFlash Pro, which also contains the MiFlash tool (not sure which version) under one of its tabs. That tool worked. Also XiaoMi Tool V2 is another 3 party tool for getting you out of trouble, though hopefully you won't need it!
No need to sign into your account to use these tools, even though it prompts to.
Also, when flashing with MiFlash, make sure you select 'clean all' at the bottom right corner, NOT 'clean all and lock'
here's a link to said folder with tools in it. Let us know if you can't use mega in India.
Also, let me know which roms you need from where for your device, i'll download them and re-up them to mega (assuming that works for you), failing that gdrive.
One more thing, in order to download your current stock rom, like you say, in case there's some issue, be good to know which build you are currently on...
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thank you very much bro for your reply and the link to the tools
reg66 said:
can you access this site for instruction?
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yes i am able to access the website but i am getting page not found message
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yes i am able to access the website but i am getting page not found message
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i've uploaded stock global rom for Mi11x from that site to gdrive for you... alioth_global_images_V12.0.3.0.RKHMIXM_20210416
unzip the tgz file TWICE to the root of C drive on your pc so that you are left with access to some .bat files and a folder containing images.
connect the phone in fastboot mode to pc and start miflash. click 'refresh' and check your device is recognised. (if you need drivers, i may be wrong, but i think when i installed miflash PRO, it installed neccesary drivers... use USB 2 port also)
select 'clean all', NOT 'clean all and lock' in bottom right corner of miflash
click 'select' and point to the extracted folder in C drive.
click flash. that should hopefully be it..... now, i'm pretty tired after a long night, but i think that's everything. can't remember, but phone will most likely reboot once completed...
give us a shout if you have issues or for steps on flashing custom rom... but all the info is here already in xda or youtube vids etc