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My girlfriend just got a P6 and asked me for advice on battery-saving and I have noted there is no thread on power-saving optimizations and actual results so I have started one.
Can you please post your battery-related results and any optimization that you have done about this?!
What firmware?
How much battery discharge do you see over day?
Even more relevant - how much battery discharge do you see over night?
xclub_101 said:
My girlfriend just got a P6 and asked me for advice on battery-saving and I have noted there is no thread on power-saving optimizations and actual results so I have started one.
Can you please post your battery-related results and any optimization that you have done about this?!
What firmware?
How much battery discharge do you see over day?
Even more relevant - how much battery discharge do you see over night?
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Newest firmware is meant to be good, also theres a few power saving options in the menus, some users have reported that they get up to 2 days moderate use
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Newest firmware is meant to be good, also theres a few power saving options in the menus, some users have reported that they get up to 2 days moderate use
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Thank you for your feedback and I hope others will provide info too (and ideally some numbers).
Just to place things into perspective and show the kind of numbers that are most relevant for such a thread - my i9300 over night has a battery discharge of around 2% over 8 hours (that is registered on the voice network so that I can get voice calls but with WiFi off and data off; most apps are also set to only update on WiFi or manually anyway). In order to achieve that I use a custom kernel, power-saving enabled on a Samsung-derived ROM with root and then Titanium Backup to freeze anything that I use less than once/week and Greenify for almost everything else.
I plan on trying some of the above on my girlfriend's phone next weekend or the one after that, and until then I was interested to learn more about the subject.
xclub_101 said:
Thank you for your feedback and I hope others will provide info too (and ideally some numbers).
Just to place things into perspective and show the kind of numbers that are most relevant for such a thread - my i9300 over night has a battery discharge of around 2% over 8 hours (that is registered on the voice network so that I can get voice calls but with WiFi off and data off; most apps are also set to only update on WiFi or manually anyway). In order to achieve that I use a custom kernel, power-saving enabled on a Samsung-derived ROM with root and then Titanium Backup to freeze anything that I use less than once/week and Greenify for almost everything else.
I plan on trying some of the above on my girlfriend's phone next weekend or the one after that, and until then I was interested to learn more about the subject.
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I also have a samsung galaxy S3 Gt-i9300 and have rather moderate battery life, last night i lost 20% ! I have the Boeffla kernel, which do you use?
Huawei are meant to be good at this sort of thing, im getting real tired of only having a phone capable of 2-3.5 hours of screen on time ( S3, Nexus 4 ) So, im hoping the huawei can deliver that or ill be going to something with a bigger battery ( Nexus 5 and underclock it too 1.5ghz maybe less to save some major battery life )
I also would like to see what users are getting in terms of numbers, screen on time would be great
- Jack
JackHanAnLG said:
I also have a samsung galaxy S3 Gt-i9300 and have rather moderate battery life, last night i lost 20% ! I have the Boeffla kernel, which do you use?
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Currently I am mostly using Googy-Max, but over weekends I normally do a lot of experimenting and for instance last night I noted an increase from 2% to 4% (over 8 hours), which could be from moving from Googy-Max 1.7.5 to 1.7.6 or from moving from modem EMF1 to EMG4 - for the moment I moved back to Googy-Max 1.7.5 and I will see over the next night if it was the kernel, the modem or both. Also as a note - I get about 4-5 hours of screen time, but with low use and I "adapt" the brightness (I have some profiles defined with LLAMA and I keep the brightness on lowest auto when I am indoor and only go to max when I go outdoors for more than a few minutes).
That being said 20% is extreme - I have only seen such numbers in CM 10.2 (where it is said that there is a bug that prevents the modem from sleeping after a cellphone call, but the last word is that it might now be fixed). Either way on i9300 it is a well-known situation that Sammy ROMs (after some degree of de-bloating) still are a huge lot better with power-saving than CM. Which was the kind of info I was looking here about the Ascend P6
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Currently I am mostly using Googy-Max, but over weekends I normally do a lot of experimenting and for instance last night I noted an increase from 2% to 4% (over 8 hours), which could be from moving from Googy-Max 1.7.5 to 1.7.6 or from moving from modem EMF1 to EMG4 - for the moment I moved back to Googy-Max 1.7.5 and I will see over the next night if it was the kernel, the modem or both. Also as a note - I get about 4-5 hours of screen time, but with low use and I "adapt" the brightness (I have some profiles defined with LLAMA and I keep the brightness on lowest auto when I am indoor and only go to max when I go outdoors for more than a few minutes).
That being said 20% is extreme - I have only seen such numbers in CM 10.2 (where it is said that there is a bug that prevents the modem from sleeping after a cellphone call, but the last word is that it might now be fixed). Either way on i9300 it is a well-known situation that Sammy ROMs (after some degree of de-bloating) still are a huge lot better with power-saving than CM. Which was the kind of info I was looking here about the Ascend P6
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I know this is a Huawei thread but xD
Do you reccomend Googy-max then? All i care about is batter life!
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I know this is a Huawei thread but xD
Do you reccomend Googy-max then? All i care about is batter life!
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I am still answering here since I believe what I am about to say could also be very relevant for the P6.
The thing is that in my experience the kernel is only relevant for battery life once every single other problem was fixed!
In other words if the over-night (8h or so) battery drain is 20% then your gains from the kernel will not be very relevant (and technically Boeffla and Googy-Max are not very far apart in this regard). If you are on a CM 10.2 (or 10.1?) the main advantage that I see is that Googy-Max will let you keep that (I suggest to move it to secondary) and then install a de-bloated Sammy as primary and then see for a few weeks how is battery life between the two.
And another thing that could be also relevant to the P6 - on my phone I am replacing the "stock" launcher and 'stock" dialer with something that for me is a lot snappier (but that remains to be seen if it will be well-received by my girlfriend on her P6 - or if it will improve anything).
But generally BetterBatteryStats and Greenify tend to improve battery life (sometimes a lot), so it looks very likely that I will have to root that P6.
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I am still answering here since I believe what I am about to say could also be very relevant for the P6.
The thing is that in my experience the kernel is only relevant for battery life once every single other problem was fixed!
In other words if the over-night (8h or so) battery drain is 20% then your gains from the kernel will not be very relevant (and technically Boeffla and Googy-Max are not very far apart in this regard). If you are on a CM 10.2 (or 10.1?) the main advantage that I see is that Googy-Max will let you keep that (I suggest to move it to secondary) and then install a de-bloated Sammy as primary and then see for a few weeks how is battery life between the two.
And another thing that could be also relevant to the P6 - on my phone I am replacing the "stock" launcher and 'stock" dialer with something that for me is a lot snappier (but that remains to be seen if it will be well-received by my girlfriend on her P6 - or if it will improve anything).
But generally BetterBatteryStats and Greenify tend to improve battery life (sometimes a lot), so it looks very likely that I will have to root that P6.
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Ive got to hand it to you, i had a good look on the googy kernel and found many, many battery optimizations and found threads to do with underclocking, undervolting and other tweaks and the batter life is amazing, im only running it at 800mhz and its really smooth and fast still, so thanks for introducing it to me, its made my galaxy S3 a whole lot better.
Although there is one bug, ill turn on phone, connect the WiFi, turn the screen off and it will disable the WiFi :S im on 1.7.5 and have asked if 1.7.6 will fix it, fingers crossed
Hi,
I'm planning to buy LG G3 (32 GB version). It's very cheap right now considering it's specs but I have some questions before buying it.
1- How is general performance and gaming on stock ROM (lollipop or kitkat)?
2- Does it overheat or force the screen brightness to be lowered?
3- How is battery life (screen-on time) with moderate to heavy usage?
4- How is development going? Does it have stable AOSP ROMs without major issues or camera problems?
5- Are there any problems or any thing that I need to know before buying?
I would really appreciate it if some one can help me. Thanks in advance
1- I don't game
2- Overheat yes but it never forced me to lower the brightness
3- It's not bad, I can last 2 day with it
4- LG G3 camera is bad in every custom rom (unless you install the moto cam, or another (I don't remember witch one))
5- Overheat is the biggest downside for this device, I can go to 75C+ easily
75 c with general usage?! Does it affect perfermance or cause lagging?
Navios92 said:
75 c with general usage?! Does it affect perfermance or cause lagging?
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The phone overheats but it isn't causing any performance or lag in my case. It is not getting up to 75. Also the gaming is very good. The battery gives me about 5+ hours of SoT.
Sreerag ag said:
The phone overheats but it isn't causing any performance or lag in my case. It is not getting up to 75. Also the gaming is very good. The battery gives me about 5+ hours of SoT.
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On stock or custom rom? And what is your brightness settings?
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Navios92 said:
On stock or custom rom? And what is your brightness settings?
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On stock I got about 4+. Using custom ROMs like cloudy and exodus gives me much more. My brightness is at 50% auto.
Navios92 said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy LG G3 (32 GB version). It's very cheap right now considering it's specs but I have some questions before buying it.
1- How is general performance and gaming on stock ROM (lollipop or kitkat)?
2- Does it overheat or force the screen brightness to be lowered?
3- How is battery life (screen-on time) with moderate to heavy usage?
4- How is development going? Does it have stable AOSP ROMs without major issues or camera problems?
5- Are there any problems or any thing that I need to know before buying?
I would really appreciate it if some one can help me. Thanks in advance
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1) According to my experience, stock rom is a bit laggy, but absolutely tolerable.
If you flash an AOSP rom, lags should completely disappear, you can find the difference in heavier games.
But I can't compare the old KitKat rom to Lollipop one, since I immediately upgraded my device.
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
3) It strongly depends by installed apps and mainly by the "damned" Google Play Services, which often cause a quicker battery drain.
During standby, the autonomy is excellent, during the utilization it's similar to the other devices, probably "a bit" longer.
4) The stock development is stopped to the February release (20H), but is also true that G3 was the first terminal to receive the Lollipop update.
On stock camera, 4K video recording is laggy, personally I prefer the excellent and smaller Full HD recording.
On AOSP roms (Resurrection Remix in my case) camera app is qualitatively comparable to the stock one... except for the audio quality in videos: volume become inexplicably lower and suffocated after some second of recording, it sounds me like a microphone which is turned off.
If you accept this issue (hope it will be solved) or you prefer to use a 3rd-party camera, I strongly suggest you to flash an AOSP rom, but be careful about rooting, if your intention is to immediately flash a custom rom, do not upgrade to Lollipop, or you'll have problems with "non-bumped" recoveries.
5) You have to know that G3 (according to many amateur crash videos) has a weak digitizer (so I suggest you to buy absolutely a proof cover like my Ringke Max).
Then... the already cited overheating, which would be a problem only for the laggy experience, no damage risks.
If you want to flash a custom rom, prevent to upgrade to Lollipop.
For the rest... you'll have a great device [emoji41]
I have found AOSP roms to be quite flakey, ive tried many of them and keep going back to stock - random reboots, crap battery etc.
Thermal throttling mod def helps with heat.
Simone98RC said:
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
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Honest question... do people actually use their devices at 100% or even 90? I currently have my G3 set to 67% and I never really change it. My Nexus 7 I keep at around the same unless I'm reading in bed and it's too bright, so I knock it down some. The only situation I could see using it at 100% would be in direct sunlight, but the glare makes this a bad idea in general.
Just curious I guess.
Simone98RC said:
1) According to my experience, stock rom is a bit laggy, but absolutely tolerable.
If you flash an AOSP rom, lags should completely disappear, you can find the difference in heavier games.
But I can't compare the old KitKat rom to Lollipop one, since I immediately upgraded my device.
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
3) It strongly depends by installed apps and mainly by the "damned" Google Play Services, which often cause a quicker battery drain.
During standby, the autonomy is excellent, during the utilization it's similar to the other devices, probably "a bit" longer.
4) The stock development is stopped to the February release (20H), but is also true that G3 was the first terminal to receive the Lollipop update.
On stock camera, 4K video recording is laggy, personally I prefer the excellent and smaller Full HD recording.
On AOSP roms (Resurrection Remix in my case) camera app is qualitatively comparable to the stock one... except for the audio quality in videos: volume become inexplicably lower and suffocated after some second of recording, it sounds me like a microphone which is turned off.
If you accept this issue (hope it will be solved) or you prefer to use a 3rd-party camera, I strongly suggest you to flash an AOSP rom, but be careful about rooting, if your intention is to immediately flash a custom rom, do not upgrade to Lollipop, or you'll have problems with "non-bumped" recoveries.
5) You have to know that G3 (according to many amateur crash videos) has a weak digitizer (so I suggest you to buy absolutely a proof cover like my Ringke Max).
Then... the already cited overheating, which would be a problem only for the laggy experience, no damage risks.
If you want to flash a custom rom, prevent to upgrade to Lollipop.
For the rest... you'll have a great device [emoji41]
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That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
Navios92 said:
That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
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1. Yes it does. I get 70C while using facebook and similar apps within 15mins of usage. Still not too much lagg even with high temperatures.
2. You will probably be able to achive root on lollipop but the problem is the aboot(bootloader) that comes on lollipop. It's not compatible with bump that needs to be applied to recovery and boot partitions so you would recive Secure Boot Error.
Although you could use benders autorec app on lollipop which flashes kitkats aboot and laf imgs along with TWRP.
3. While I can't compare the screen with any of these phones as I have not used them, personally I don't have issues with my contrast. I can see things well under suns reflection as well.
Navios92 said:
That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
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1) It may happens in every CPU stress condition, when device works at maximum clock (2.5 Ghz). Mostly in heavy games, but in other scenarios too, like continous switch between mobile data and Wi-Fi, or accidental screen on in pocket (which I encounter on my AOSP rom).
2) The Lollipop update enable the Secure Boot, which verify the signature of some critical partition of your device: if it find any inconsistency, the phone won't boot and send an alarming "blue-red" sequence of LED colours like a police light.
I've tried that on my device, I still get shivers!
Since you do the update, nor the downgrade to KitKat want to reverse the existence of Secure Boot, so you'll need to install only "bumped" recovery to prevent the issue.
It means that you have to manually flash TWRP recovery, since the standard "no-bumped" version will get your device in those terrible conditions.
3) I can't do a comparison since I'm not informed about these devices.
Personally for a long time I've disliked the "weak" colour intensity of G3, but after 6 months of experience I've understand that was the LCD of my old SGS3 to be abnormal, with a graceful but false contrast.
The real problem is not the contrast ratio, but the low brightness which you'll surely note in sunny conditions.
In the successor G4 the screen brightness is fixed by an increasing of almost 25%.
Simone98RC said:
1) It may happens in every CPU stress condition, when device works at maximum clock (2.5 Ghz). Mostly in heavy games, but in other scenarios too, like continous switch between mobile data and Wi-Fi, or accidental screen on in pocket (which I encounter on my AOSP rom).
2) The Lollipop update enable the Secure Boot, which verify the signature of some critical partition of your device: if it find any inconsistency, the phone won't boot and send an alarming "blue-red" sequence of LED colours like a police light.
I've tried that on my device, I still get shivers!
Since you do the update, nor the downgrade to KitKat want to reverse the existence of Secure Boot, so you'll need to install only "bumped" recovery to prevent the issue.
It means that you have to manually flash TWRP recovery, since the standard "no-bumped" version will get your device in those terrible conditions.
3) I can't do a comparison since I'm not informed about these devices.
Personally for a long time I've disliked the "weak" colour intensity of G3, but after 6 months of experience I've understand that was the LCD of my old SGS3 to be abnormal, with a graceful but false contrast.
The real problem is not the contrast ratio, but the low brightness which you'll surely note in sunny conditions.
In the successor G4 the screen brightness is fixed by an increasing of almost 25%.
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Screen quality is very important to me as I watch a lot of videos.
But heating problem is a turn off. I live in a hot country and had the same problem with Optimus 4X which was unbearable.
I might wait till G4 price goes down and buy it or get A5 and wait for a proper flagship next year.
Would you say that the Sony Xperia XZ is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Sony Xperia XZ exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
it is laggy... do not recommend
It's still as fast as on day 1 after 5 months for me. 10/10 IGN
It has been more than 4 months, it's still as fast as the first day. Never had even a lag since then
For a so called 2016 Flagship this phone is a major disappointment for me.
I've had two HTCs prior to this (The M8 and original One) and from a day to day usability perspective the Sony is simply not as good as my 3 Year old M8 despite being more recent technology.
- The audio quality is very poor with headphones (and without)
- For whatever reason it lags for no obvious reason - scrolling contacts, using Mail, anything.... it's just random
- The camera is surprisingly poor
- The Phone and Message apps crash more frequently than they should
- The only advantage this device has over my previous phone is the addition of a fingerprint sensor.
I have not loaded the device with useless Apps and I have disabled whatever junk ware I can which Sony provide.
The only reason I went for the Sony is that my carrier did not offer the HTC 10 so I decided to try "something different".
A lesson learned I'm afraid and I should have switched Network provider to get a phone that I would be happy with for 2 Years.
Perhaps I should install a custom ROM to gain a performance boost as I used to do with phones prior to the M8. Quite honestly I thought I was over all that and should not have to these days given the hardware specs of the device.
In Summary, a woefully poor implementation from Sony and they will not be getting my business, with respect to phones anyway, anytime in the near future.
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Very poor for a 2016 Flagship- laggy
I have the phone since October 2016 and its nothing but great - speed-wise, it still feels like a new phone, however, I am experiencing problems with the battery now, overnight the battery discharges to 20% in the morning - I have tried re-flashing the phone but that didnt help. The phone began to bend a little as well (oops).
Other than that - performance wise its still awesome, I totally recommend it - but I would step it up and go for the XZ Premium.
This phone becomes a beast only once rooted.
I can concur from my own experience - since release been using it unrooted and the phone was unspectacular. However that experience changed once rooted. It took me a few weeks to get it right but that was mainly down to the temperamental status of magisk (no more the case since v13.2.)
Use the right rom and if you know what your doing under the hood then you'll gain ~10hours sot with a blazing fast phone like mine.
Which deep sleeps like a champion.
Performance with LLJY EAS scheduler implementation takes the phone to new heights (once he actually resolves some small issues with the scheduler we can expect further performance enhancement.)
Its been doing good .. had some hiccups due bad updates
With the Aug security patch .. its back to buttery smooth experience
The question I like to ask why isnt non rooted deep sleeping properly, this phone idle still eating battery non stop.. in this regard the Z5 family with the SD 810 done better, the phone idle in the XZ is shocking..
Overall it's fast but starting camera takes to long. Sometimes 3-4 sec. Since two days back the standard sms-app crashes 19 times out of 20. I've changed it to Textra instead.
Scrolling webpages with a lot of pictures(ex. newspapers) is kind of laggy. Probably because of slow loadingtimes due to 2.4 GHz Wifi.
Mine is disappointingly slow, I've owned for at least 6 months Z3,Z3c, Z2, Z1, Z1c, which was a beast, tried the z5 premium and never noticed any lag, all of them simply were beasts,
With the XZ the phone seems to be SLOW, lags at random, and RAM is at 70 usage 24/7 even with clean stock rom.
I hope this gets fixed with oreo, I used a Honor 8 and LG G5 respectively and they were faster in UI day to day usage, the only reason I moved from the Honor 8 to a LG G5 was the SD 820, and from the LG G5 to the XZ was that I am a fan of sony phones, IPXX and design.
Sadly, I am not satisfied with the speed of my phone, Ive had it for 1 week.
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Sadly, I am not satisfied with the speed of my phone, Ive had it for 1 week.
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That's odd. Has it been dropped at all?
I have several of the USA and Japan models and they are all blazing fast.
Do you think there may be a 3rd party issue!
These "reviews" should be reset since most of them sound like bots and the latest Oreo updated changed everything, this is by far the best 16/17 device and I automatically assume that any nonsense bad complaint comes from people who can't use phones or have fakes from China.
owens2000 said:
For a so called 2016 Flagship this phone is a major disappointment for me.
I've had two HTCs prior to this (The M8 and original One) and from a day to day usability perspective the Sony is simply not as good as my 3 Year old M8 despite being more recent technology.
- The audio quality is very poor with headphones (and without)
- For whatever reason it lags for no obvious reason - scrolling contacts, using Mail, anything.... it's just random
- The camera is surprisingly poor
- The Phone and Message apps crash more frequently than they should
- The only advantage this device has over my previous phone is the addition of a fingerprint sensor.
I have not loaded the device with useless Apps and I have disabled whatever junk ware I can which Sony provide.
The only reason I went for the Sony is that my carrier did not offer the HTC 10 so I decided to try "something different".
A lesson learned I'm afraid and I should have switched Network provider to get a phone that I would be happy with for 2 Years.
Perhaps I should install a custom ROM to gain a performance boost as I used to do with phones prior to the M8. Quite honestly I thought I was over all that and should not have to these days given the hardware specs of the device.
In Summary, a woefully poor implementation from Sony and they will not be getting my business, with respect to phones anyway, anytime in the near future.
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Very poor for a 2016 Flagship- laggy
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I can second this statement, I even prefer my Z5 Compact over this - even an iPhone 5 is faster than the XZ (sad but true)
nzzane said:
I can second this statement, I even prefer my Z5 Compact over this - even an iPhone 5 is faster than the XZ (sad but true)
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I own all the phones you mentioned and I can say that's not true, at least in Europe.
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I own all the phones you mentioned and I can say that's not true, at least in Europe.
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Suppose it depends how you use it
For example, on Oreo, i can't use facebook and facebook messenger before the phone becomes too slow (Even in safe mode)
Snapchat kills the phone, bluetooth kills it, location services kills it - if you use the XZ as a basic phone, to take photos and videos, occasional facebook then it will work fine for an added few minutes
nzzane said:
Suppose it depends how you use it
For example, on Oreo, i can't use facebook and facebook messenger before the phone becomes too slow (Even in safe mode)
Snapchat kills the phone, bluetooth kills it, location services kills it - if you use the XZ as a basic phone, to take photos and videos, occasional facebook then it will work fine for an added few minutes
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I can do that all day every day and still go sleep with 40% battery left, no lag and perfect battery after one year, z5c and iphone 5 start to burn during boot, but I guess it's just me being lucky or knowing how to keep a phone healthy.
Yesterday I dit a clean install of Oreo & Root & TWRP (I had unlocked bootloader obviously), same apps from Nougat, same everything, phone seems laggy. At least slower than Nougat. I can't understand why... I will try deodexing now, although I don't have high expectations for this.
PS I'm not a bot, I'm a sick Sony fanboy, not changing this device for anything, other than a XZ Premium once it gets a little cheaper.
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Yesterday I dit a clean install of Oreo & Root & TWRP (I had unlocked bootloader obviously), same apps from Nougat, same everything, phone seems laggy. At least slower than Nougat. I can't understand why... I will try deodexing now, although I don't have high expectations for this.
PS I'm not a bot, I'm a sick Sony fanboy, not changing this device for anything, other than a XZ Premium once it gets a little cheaper.
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Deodexing will only make it MUCH slower, I suggest you to get flashtool and flash a more generic FW like CE1, also keep in mind than most apps on the play store are not even optimized for Oreo (only 0.3% of devices are on the latest android) and they can slow your phone or even cause crashes just by staying in the background, search for Brevent on the Play store and choose to restrict any app which you won't need to have in the background.
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Deodexing will only make it MUCH slower, I suggest you to get flashtool and flash a more generic FW like CE1, also keep in mind than most apps on the play store are not even optimized for Oreo (only 0.3% of devices are on the latest android) and they can slow your phone or even cause crashes just by staying in the background, search for Brevent on the Play store and choose to restrict any app which you won't need to have in the background.
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Thanks dude, I thought about it as well, and yes I will stay with odex ROM, and yes, probably the CE1.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Phone gets HOT when charging and even playing some mid-spec games :/
The heat can be felt outside of the back cover too
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Is this a stock ROM issue ?
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On AEX 4.5 there's no excessive heating even at long hours 3d gaming while charging. Many ROMs have heating issues even while the phone is idle
strange but i noticed that clearing apps from memory frequently resulted in heating on my phone. didnt clear a single app since 2 days and it didn't heat at all. stock rom.
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On AEX 4.5 there's no excessive heating even at long hours 3d gaming while charging. Many ROMs have heating issues even while the phone is idle
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Which is the best bugless custom ROM with all features and VoLTE ???
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developer01 said:
Which is the best bugless custom ROM with all features and VoLTE ???
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For me, AEX 4.5 is the greatest ROM for now on all aspects for the device (Great battery, many customzations, smooth and bugless).
Volte is working on most of the ROMs including AEX (there's no Volte in my country but other people have confirmed it)
(If you really care about security you could try Jaguar [it's targeted to slightly more advanced users] and i THINK most features come with Resurrection Remix)
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For me, AEX 4.5 is the greatest ROM for now on all aspects for the device (Great battery, many customzations, smooth and bugless).
Volte is working on most of the ROMs including AEX (there's no Volte in my country but other people have confirmed it)
(If you really care about security you could try Jaguar [it's targeted to slightly more advanced users] and i THINK most features come with Resurrection Remix)
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Am an advanced user but got no time coz am in Hostel
I care about battery life the most and performance and stability.
And too much of features make device unstable sometimes
Thanks dude
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developer01 said:
Am an advanced user but got no time coz am in Hostel
I care about battery life the most and performance and stability.
And too much of features make device unstable sometimes
Thanks dude
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Slightly more advanced users, i meant generally.
Sorry if it looked i meant you.
welcome
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Slightly more advanced users, i meant generally.
Sorry if it looked i meant you.
welcome
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Chill Bro
Am truly satisfied with this device
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Of-course this device has heating issue. I can certainly feel it even over the back cover. I am a light/moderate user, never play games. So, I can imagine how hot it will get if engaged in gaming.
Taking no credit from independent developers, but in my opinion the stock ROM is the best. There used to be a time when Android wasn't mature enough and these developers helped bring more options to the plate with custom ROMs. But now, it is not required. I used to be a active rooter/tweaker of devices but I have stopped doing them a year back.
Cool phone, cooler than most phones under load. Especially, cool during calls. A bit heating when using data
Got my heating issue resolved by capping the maximum processor speed at 1920MHZ. On stock room, after running 2 benchmark tests continuously, the temperature on the back was 39.8 degrees. On Aex v4.5, it touched 38 degrees.
I have noticed on my phone with different roms that some utilize or interact better with the baseband than others. On some roms my phone will run on H+ and not change to 4G/LTE. When this happens my phone starts to heat up, and I have to reboot it. After reboot it will connect to 4G. On other roms it will connect to 4G automatically. Just an observation that I have seen over the past couple of months. I am running baseband 9-00026-M8996FAAAANAZM-1.63821.1. Does anyone else have this issue?
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For me, AEX 4.5 is the greatest ROM for now on all aspects for the device (Great battery, many customzations, smooth and bugless).
Volte is working on most of the ROMs including AEX (there's no Volte in my country but other people have confirmed it)
(If you really care about security you could try Jaguar [it's targeted to slightly more advanced users] and i THINK most features come with Resurrection Remix)
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Aex 4.5 EAS 2.5.1. Eas 2.2 has slightly more battery life, let's say 15%.
I am planning to buy a used Z2 Plus. I it is only phone with Snapdragon 820 in my budget. Do you think it is a good idea? After all, it has the best hardware considering the price and good ROMs are also available here. What do you think?
Freezejack said:
Got my heating issue resolved by capping the maximum processor speed at 1920MHZ. On stock room, after running 2 benchmark tests continuously, the temperature on the back was 39.8 degrees. On Aex v4.5, it touched 38 degrees.
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How did you do that? How to under clock CPU?
Underclock
saurav_k said:
How did you do that? How to under clock CPU?
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Well, first you gotta have a custom kernel which supports cpu overclocking. I've had DarkMoon and Jaguar.... though I prefer DarkMoon.
Then there are two methods to actually underclock the processor:
The first is to use a software to underclock it directly...like set cpu, kernel adiutor, etc. This is a pretty safe process, without the risk of bricking the device.
The second way is by manually setting the clock speed for the "big" cores using something like termux/terminal emulator. This method is what I used for underclocking my device. This is a very direct method, though it has a HIGH RISK of bricking the device.
Before you type just check which cores are big.
In termux shell with root permissions, type:
echo "1920000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
echo "1920000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
And reboot!
Don't try 2nd method unless you are ready to risk bricking your phone!
P.S. : You can do the 2nd method using a root browser and a text editor as well. Just go to that path and open the file "cpuinfo_max_freq" and change the value to 1920000.
asrone96 said:
strange but i noticed that clearing apps from memory frequently resulted in heating on my phone. didnt clear a single app since 2 days and it didn't heat at all. stock rom.
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But it was totally opposite for me...?
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dearbasheer said:
Of-course this device has heating issue. I can certainly feel it even over the back cover. I am a light/moderate user, never play games. So, I can imagine how hot it will get if engaged in gaming.
Taking no credit from independent developers, but in my opinion the stock ROM is the best. There used to be a time when Android wasn't mature enough and these developers helped bring more options to the plate with custom ROMs. But now, it is not required. I used to be a active rooter/tweaker of devices but I have stopped doing them a year back.
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Remove the back cover, let the heat dissipate. It will cool down on it's own.
My heating issues completely solved on aex5.2 after I installed kernel aduitor and enabled thermal throttling. Performance impact is only a slight bit, 152k antutu 7 vs 172k with it off, but the phone is completely cool to the touch now. It's a Snapdragon 820 thing, and that the heat dissipation mechanism is a little budget oriented in the back. Still a solid device!
dearbasheer said:
Of-course this device has heating issue. I can certainly feel it even over the back cover. I am a light/moderate user, never play games. So, I can imagine how hot it will get if engaged in gaming.
Taking no credit from independent developers, but in my opinion the stock ROM is the best. There used to be a time when Android wasn't mature enough and these developers helped bring more options to the plate with custom ROMs. But now, it is not required. I used to be a active rooter/tweaker of devices but I have stopped doing them a year back.
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No heating issue here lol my device temp never goes beyond 36 even though im and medium based user !!!
Chek ur device it has some kind of fault thats why u get so much heating
Anyway no heating here
Im posting in the S20 main sub, since the s20fe sub is a little small on users, and from what I found online, the s20 has the same problem.
Basically when my battery reaches 43°C the phone wont let me use multiwindow anymore. I can achive this temp within minutes and it's not even summer yet.
So can I raise this limit by editing a file or with a kernel app?
Btw: phone is rooted of course
glumada said:
Im posting in the S20 main sub, since the s20fe sub is a little small on users, and from what I found online, the s20 has the same problem.
Basically when my battery reaches 43°C the phone wont let me use multiwindow anymore. I can achive this temp within minutes and it's not even summer yet.
So can I raise this limit by editing a file or with a kernel app?
Btw: phone is rooted of course
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Have s look here:
[ROOT] Change CPU temp. limits ("Manage" overheating) (Updated 10/11/15)
**** Update 25/1/2015 Add No Aggresive 2.0 Mod By FirstMn This "mod" help can you with CPU Overheating in Sony Xperia M4 Aqua, but remember! 1) You are installing it, and its your choose. That mean you bear full reposinbility for your machine...
forum.xda-developers.com
But keep in mind that this is for another device. And changing system settings maybe cause damage of your phone.