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What bugs are still present in the P2?

Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?

TLxda-d said:
Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?
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Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.

senseijtitus said:
Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.
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Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.

TLxda-d said:
Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.
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I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.

senseijtitus said:
I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.
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But you did experience distortion from the speaker at some point? Did it also happen with the custom ROMs you tried?
And I actually have another question now: I read that it's better to buy the global P2a42 version if you're outside of China, but that many sellers take the Chinese P2c72 and simply change the firmware to the global one, then calling it "Global P2".
I can already see that there are band differences, and that not all of my local LTE bands are supported in the Chinese P2 (band 7 is missing, I didn't check regarding non-LTE bands). Are there any other differences?
And someone claimed that the 64gb/4gb RAM units are all by hardware Chinese P2c72. Is that true? I can't even find someone selling a non-64gb P2.

I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.

Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this

Sutcliffe9 said:
I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.
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Do you have the real global version (P2a42 hardware)?
debo12345 said:
Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this
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What version of P2 you have? P2a42 or the Chinese P2c72?
Seeing how many different reports about bugs being fixed or not come from current users, it makes me think maybe it has something to do with the version of your unit and its compatibility with the firmware.
And I can't find any normal seller of the P2a42 version, what the hell...
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Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?

Sutcliffe9 said:
Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?
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Well, the version sold in the UK must have been the actual ROW version. I can't find it available to me anywhere! And where it might be – it is sold for a crazy amount of money (and let's be real, it covers more frequencies but it is just 32gb vs 64gb). Why is this? Lenovo must still be manufacturing the P2a42 as it is still sold in East Asian stores, but I can't find any of them that ships abroad. Well, I found one Malaysian store that ships the P2a42 internationally, but it costs $300 already without the shipping and I'm from Israel, so they might not even ship to me (and they use DHL, which means 100% chance I'll have to pay an extra 17% when it arrives...).
It's really starting to seem to me like many of the complaints SOME of the userbase has is from using the non-ROW unit with a ROW ROM. Otherwise, I can't explain why everyone is saying they have the latest firmware but one is person is experiencing weird bugs and the other isn't.
And in specific regards to the frequency band coverage, I don't understand some of these Chinese sellers. Are they lying about the specifications, are they oblivious to the actual specifications, are do they just have access to some third kind of model? This frequency-support information for the P2a42 and then for the P2c72 came from the website pdadb.net (I found the links on XDA), and then there is the citation found on gearbest.com
This is some incoherent amalgam of the frequencies supported by either model, plus band 4 which isn't originally cited for either of them (though GSMArena does mention it, but it doesn't distinguish between the models and perhaps it's incorrect).

If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks

Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.

philje123 said:
Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.
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So, you don't have any bugs in video playback? Like stuttering

No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)

philje123 said:
No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)
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That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
Sporkyz said:
If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks
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What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?

I had P2a42 4GB-32GB version for about half a year ( 12/2016-06/2017 ) and it was great, no problems . Sold it only because the camera was nothing special. I now have LG G5se and have to charge it twice a day. Want to buy P2 again but with this bug i'm not realy sure if it would be a good idea.
Hope it only affects asian version.

TLxda-d said:
That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?
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You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd

Sporkyz said:
You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd
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Well, I downloaded the app and on my Xperia Z3 it says (under Google Widevine Modular DRM) Security Level L1. Is that what you were referring to, and does that mean Netflix doesn't allow my Z3 to stream in HD because of the DRM?
I don't watch Netflix on my phone too often, though I thought it possibly looks lower than HD – though it doesn't bother me too much on the smaller screen.
But I did google "Netflix DRM" after you mentioned this and some results about rooted devices not being able to run/download the Netflix app due to DRM change came up.
And does anyone know of some service, in India, which allows you to deliver an item you purchased from a non-international store to their own address and then they ship it internationally to you?
I barely find any options for a real P2a42, but there is this Indian website Flipkart where they sell it for a reasonable price, only problem is they solely ship within India. I don't remember how are these called, but I heard of a couple US-based warehouses through which you can ship (for example) Amazon items which normally can't be shipped to you.

You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.

razorsbk said:
You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.
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Yeah, but that is the Chinese version. They just changed the ROM to the international one.
Check the supported frequency bands on a different website to see if the P2c72 model will actually work with your local cellular network, but either way they both explained how OTA updating won't work with the units they sell, and I think there might be a higher chance for the reported bugs to happen on these modded Chinese P2's.

General Interested in this beast whose buying.

Never used a nubia phone before, but looking at the specs and at £600 I'm interested. Whose buying this.

marvi0 said:
Never used a nubia phone before, but looking at the specs and at £600 I'm interested. Whose buying this.
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If you read through the support page of the red magic 5 and the rwd magic 3, you'll get an idea into what your paying for.
Almost non existinal software support outside of china. Some games like Pubg stop working on basically every update (of pubg) Nubia are months behind in fixing those bugs.
The 5s is over 5 months behind in updates, and still don't have Android 11.
Some software bugs like setting default apps for things like certain links to open in apps,
Reddit, youtube etc dont work.
The sd888 is currently over heating in every model of phone made with it. With exception of the RM6 but only if you use the Ice dock while gaming. So expect to need to buy that additional accessory to get the best performance out of the device. Or if not expect it to over heat a few minutes into any heavy high graphic / demanding game.
Sure maybe after some months of bug fixes it may be better, but yoy only need to read the 5s/5s unofficial support page to read how many things have been done and what people have been dealing with since buying Nubia's last phone.
... Personally im very happy with my purchase. RM5s with latest stock rom is solid. I dont play pubg so i dont care about the people moaning about it. Everyrhing else seems to run very well, with exception to the default apps selection not saving your choices to always open in this app, its a beast of a phone.
Sd888 overheating and using way more power than the 865, for almost the same performance for me personally is not worth it.
But if you do decide to to go for the RM6, good luck. Don't say you were not warned whwn something is not right and you get a cold shoulder from nubia support. Good prediction, Android 12 is get released for the chinese varient, but global will be left behind.
Like the series 3 and currently series 5.
There are rumors that android 11 will release for series 5 soon. But series 3 global is still over 11 months behind china and 2 versions of android behind china.
Expect to be ignored as soon as the next nubia device is announced.

I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.

NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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You have to wait for the ROM update. In order to solve the problems you mentioned above Are you my customer in Thailand?

I've got one and I'm playing PUBG Mobile, Arena of Valor and Genshin Impact.
It's Chinese ROM but easy to install Play store by apk file, and remove all Chinese apps. Play store work perfectly, with Play Protect. I even think this is an global ROM.
It had not any issues, at least for 3 days I've been using it.

Just preordered, was between this or the rog phone 5.
I like to try new manufacturers so never having tried red magic before was a factor. The 2 biggest negatives for me on the red magic 6 is that the 5g is only for china (no NA 5g bands), and official rom support, mentioned above in better detail. Would have also liked to see 2 front facing speakers as the downward one will be blocked by vice style gamepads. But are these things worth double the price for the rog phone 5? Since I went with the red magic the answer for me is no. Since I'm mostly on wifi the 5g isn't a deal breaker. In general I'm usually not in a situation where my mobile bandwidth speeds are the bottle neck in enjoying an experience, like streaming music.
For me the most important part is the gpu/888 chipset and high refresh. Check and check. Getting the cyberpods for free ($50) and free shipping was nice too.

NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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Thank you. Out of interest, where are you based and selling it please?

dylerb said:
I've got one and I'm playing PUBG Mobile, Arena of Valor and Genshin Impact.
It's Chinese ROM but easy to install Play store by apk file, and remove all Chinese apps. Play store work perfectly, with Play Protect. I even think this is an global ROM.
It had not any issues, at least for 3 days I've been using it.
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Thanks, so did you buy it with Chinese rom?

professorpoptart said:
Just preordered, was between this or the rog phone 5.
I like to try new manufacturers so never having tried red magic before was a factor. The 2 biggest negatives for me on the red magic 6 is that the 5g is only for china (no NA 5g bands), and official rom support, mentioned above in better detail. Would have also liked to see 2 front facing speakers as the downward one will be blocked by vice style gamepads. But are these things worth double the price for the rog phone 5? Since I went with the red magic the answer for me is no. Since I'm mostly on wifi the 5g isn't a deal breaker. In general I'm usually not in a situation where my mobile bandwidth speeds are the bottle neck in enjoying an experience, like streaming music.
For me the most important part is the gpu/888 chipset and high refresh. Check and check. Getting the cyberpods for free ($50) and free shipping was nice too.
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Oh so no 5g for the international version? Can I change it to the Chinese rom?

Patrick Morgan said:
If you read through the support page of the red magic 5 and the rwd magic 3, you'll get an idea into what your paying for.
Almost non existinal software support outside of china. Some games like Pubg stop working on basically every update (of pubg) Nubia are months behind in fixing those bugs.
The 5s is over 5 months behind in updates, and still don't have Android 11.
Some software bugs like setting default apps for things like certain links to open in apps,
Reddit, youtube etc dont work.
The sd888 is currently over heating in every model of phone made with it. With exception of the RM6 but only if you use the Ice dock while gaming. So expect to need to buy that additional accessory to get the best performance out of the device. Or if not expect it to over heat a few minutes into any heavy high graphic / demanding game.
Sure maybe after some months of bug fixes it may be better, but yoy only need to read the 5s/5s unofficial support page to read how many things have been done and what people have been dealing with since buying Nubia's last phone.
... Personally im very happy with my purchase. RM5s with latest stock rom is solid. I dont play pubg so i dont care about the people moaning about it. Everyrhing else seems to run very well, with exception to the default apps selection not saving your choices to always open in this app, its a beast of a phone.
Sd888 overheating and using way more power than the 865, for almost the same performance for me personally is not worth it.
But if you do decide to to go for the RM6, good luck. Don't say you were not warned whwn something is not right and you get a cold shoulder from nubia support. Good prediction, Android 12 is get released for the chinese varient, but global will be left behind.
Like the series 3 and currently series 5.
There are rumors that android 11 will release for series 5 soon. But series 3 global is still over 11 months behind china and 2 versions of android behind china.
Expect to be ignored as soon as the next nubia device is announced.
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Hmm thanks for the detailed feedback. So if I buy the UK version, which I assume is the global, I cannot change it to Chinese rom?

marvi0 said:
Hmm thanks for the detailed feedback. So if I buy the UK version, which I assume is the global, I cannot change it to Chinese rom?
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Technically you could change it. But it wont change the bands you will have available to you. Rm6 uses the exact same 5G bands as the RM5. Chinese rom also comes with uninstallable bloatware, loads of data tracking apps, locked launcher, and a bunch of other limited features. If its anything like Android 10 on the 5 series.
Many many people in the UK and parts of europe have 5g connectivity issues with the 5g/5s so dont expect 5g to work and if it does, it will work poorly unless you're basically standing next to the tower.
Overall, chinese roms may get updated, but they will be bogged down with limted features (that you cant even use outside of China) and forced apps.
Not to mention, if the modem fikes happen to get flashed at the same time it could cause connectivity issues on all bands and networks.
The potential to really **** up is high.
But as i said above if you really want to see what you'd be getting yourself into nust read through the issues and software bugs on the support pages for the 5 series and 3 series device.
Its a pretty clear possible future, since Nubia has so far been doing the same thing as they did with the series 3 devices.

pppwaung said:
You have to wait for the ROM update. In order to solve the problems you mentioned above Are you my customer in Thailand?
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Yep, It's me Sawaddee krub.

marvi0 said:
Thank you. Out of interest, where are you based and selling it please?
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Land of the smile, Bangkok, Thailand. It's sold...to a customer who will use it for auto bitcoin trading. What are the odds?

NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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Does Redmagic moment/ time i.e. montage recording feature work with pubg global?

NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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Is the overheating in normal (non-gaming) operation or are you referring to gaming?

I just ordered the 6 pro. Reading through some of these comments makes me leary but one thing I've found over my many years on Android is that no two people's experience is the same. I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of my 6 pro. I'm in the US by the way.

marvi0 said:
Thanks, so did you buy it with Chinese rom?
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Yes. It's original Chinese ROM.

I have one on the way. I hope issues are minimum
does anyone have this and using it on t mobile network in the USA? How does it work?

Beast is absolutely right. I got the international 6 pro with 16gb ram and it is an absolute beast. I'm attaching a screenshot of my antutu score.
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Just received my phone i am using T-Mobile in California. Phone works great so far.

Question Completely Unresponsive Touchscreen Area, should i ask for a new F3?

Hello everyone,
Big problem for the touch screen which is not working fine in a large area, we can clearly see it on the screen recording.
I have already done a factory reset (for another reason), the problem is still here.
I'm not an expert but i guess this is not a problem software can fix?
Thanks for your answers ^^.
EDIT: it's not happening 100% of the time, but when it does, it's a pain in the brain.
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Poco has acknowledged the issue and will send a OTA update to fix the issue next patch.
Poco F3 delayed touch response to get optimized in next monthly update
Xiaomi executive says Poco F3/Redmi K40 delayed touch response in CoD & PUBG is set to get optimized in next monthly update.
piunikaweb.com
Edit:
I feel most if not all of these software issues will get ironed out with the roll out of MIUI 12.5 for the Poco F3/Redmi K40.
Here are a list of the current issues:
- Overheating/false temperature report with apps the heavily utilize the GPU causing the screen to dim.
- Touch response delay.
- Uneven brightness slider, 300 nits at 85% while the rest of the 15% covers approximately 250 nits.
- 3rd party launcher gestures.
- DC dimming support, it's available in the developer options for Beta firmware but it's not stable according to Xiaomi.
- Screen tint at lower brightness levels (not isolated to Xiaomi phones, it's an OLED thing), can only be reduced with future updates.
- Low volume with 3.5mm adapter, has been improved with the latest update.
- Some phones taking longer to charge, not the less than 1 hour advertised charge times.

Nemix77 said:
Poco has acknowledged the issue and will send a OTA update to fix the issue next patch.
Poco F3 delayed touch response to get optimized in next monthly update
Xiaomi executive says Poco F3/Redmi K40 delayed touch response in CoD & PUBG is set to get optimized in next monthly update.
piunikaweb.com
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Hi, thanks for your answer,
The problem in my case is that an area of the touchscreen is completely unresponsive.
The specific area is shown in the screen recording that i have joined with my post. ^^

I'm just waiting to order my Poco F3.
Xiaomi banned shipping to North America due to pandemic, at first I thought it was because of Trump's ban.
I want to see how the phone runs on Xiaomi.EU firmware which is based on the latest China firmware.
My hopes is it runs better than the Gobal firmware and MIUI 12.5 will fix up the rest of the problems when it's rolled out for the phone.
Currently, there's not other phone that has better value and specs for the price in 2021.

Nemix77 said:
I'm just waiting to order my Poco F3.
Xiaomi banned shipping to North America due to pandemic, at first I thought it was because of Trump's ban.
I want to see how the phone runs on Xiaomi.EU firmware which is based on the latest China firmware.
My hopes is it runs better than the Gobal firmware and MIUI 12.5 will fix up the rest of the problems when it's rolled out for the phone.
Currently, there's not other phone that has better value and specs for the price in 2021.
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Dude, all of that is so true, but could you bring it to a general post, i'd like to only discuss the specific problem of my device here, thanks .

Well... It seems that the issue is not here 100% of the time, i've shut down the device and now the problem is at least momentarily gone (but it was still there after a factory reset ) perhaps it doesn't happen all the time but when it does it's always located in the same area though, so it's still possible that my device has a physical problem instead of just a software problem .

First time I hear of such issue. Have you tried to swipe that areas while charger plugged/unplugged? Sometimes the current make phones behave less responsive.
You must take under consideration apps you installed, miui optimization, launcher... screen protection. Try to switch view to horizontal and see what happens.
If I were you I would try to replace the phone if the issue can't be solved softwarely. As you said it works after reboot - hardware could not randomly pick that moment to work back again.

Seems like a software issue because the recording software is detecting the touches but the UI is not responding to them

If it was a hardware problem, the recording software should not be able to detect the touches as well.

ApexPrime said:
If it was a hardware problem, the recording software should not be able to detect the touches as well.
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obviously, hehe, that's the first thing to take under consideration

Seems to me most if not all of the problems on the Poco F3 are software/chipset optimization related.
I'm very anal about these things, this is why I avoided the Samsung S20 FE last year (hardware related ghost touches).
Been searching online for weeks now while I'm waiting to place my order for phone about issues, reviews and first impressions.

Did you remove the plastic screen protector it came with? Some people solved this issue by removing that.

I'm using poco from Wednesday. Today right after I added the previous post I encountered this bug for the first time. How ironic. My down-left side of screen was inactive like in your example. Heck if I know what was that but reboot solved that. It was shortafter I got notification about mi screen recording app update. Coincidence? It looked like there was some invisible windows which covered some part of screen. Maybe this floating window mode I'm not familiar with too much.

I hope its a software issue but i bought a s20 fe and the phone was awesome but the problem was with the digitizer and i waited for 4 to 5 months as Samsung claims it was a software issue but actually it was a bad hardware.

Im experiencing exactly the same problem with my newly-bought POCO F3... seems they haven't fixed it yet after all........(..)
Has anybody found any definitive fix for this issue?

Nemix77 said:
Poco has acknowledged the issue and will send a OTA update to fix the issue next patch.
Poco F3 delayed touch response to get optimized in next monthly update
Xiaomi executive says Poco F3/Redmi K40 delayed touch response in CoD & PUBG is set to get optimized in next monthly update.
piunikaweb.com
Edit:
I feel most if not all of these software issues will get ironed out with the roll out of MIUI 12.5 for the Poco F3/Redmi K40.
Here are a list of the current issues:
- Overheating/false temperature report with apps the heavily utilize the GPU causing the screen to dim.
- Touch response delay.
- Uneven brightness slider, 300 nits at 85% while the rest of the 15% covers approximately 250 nits.
- 3rd party launcher gestures.
- DC dimming support, it's available in the developer options for Beta firmware but it's not stable according to Xiaomi.
- Screen tint at lower brightness levels (not isolated to Xiaomi phones, it's an OLED thing), can only be reduced with future updates.
- Low volume with 3.5mm adapter, has been improved with the latest update.
- Some phones taking longer to charge, not the less than 1 hour advertised charge times.
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Hello
The green tint on poco f3 can be minimaized only by a update software?

Lucyferyna said:
Im experiencing exactly the same problem with my newly-bought POCO F3... seems they haven't fixed it yet after all........(..)
Has anybody found any definitive fix for this issue?
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I just bought it two days ago, and happened to me on the bottom right side. The phone received an update, but problem is still there.

I have a new UK F3 (Amazon Prime Day sale), and it updated to 12.5.1 as soon as I turned it on (basically) - and it has the same "dead" area of the touch screen.
It's not just "dead", but touches 'avoid' it, and will jump over it.
I turned of dev options and touch tracking to highlight this.
Both images were a single finger swipe from left to right.
Switched from 120hz to 60hz. rebooted. No change. Back to 120hz. rebooted. No change.
This last photo is the most unusual - this was a single straight line from top right to bottom left.

Mine is from UK Amazon also, 12.5.1, no dead areas. No screen protector though.

TheDMV said:
I have a new UK F3 (Amazon Prime Day sale), and it updated to 12.5.1 as soon as I turned it on (basically) - and it has the same "dead" area of the touch screen.
It's not just "dead", but touches 'avoid' it, and will jump over it. View attachment 5352615View attachment 5352617
I turned of dev options and touch tracking to highlight this.
Both images were a single finger swipe from left to right.
Switched from 120hz to 60hz. rebooted. No change. Back to 120hz. rebooted. No change.View attachment 5352621
This last photo is the most unusual - this was a single straight line from top right to bottom left.
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Try a factory reset (you did a major firmware upgrade). If that doesn't get it, send it back.

Unlocking Bootloader on SM-N975U (Qualcomm)

Hey there!
Is there any possible way to unlock the bootloader on my Note 10+ or am I completely screwed.
I've tried everything and I can't get the OEM Unlock Feature to appear. Due to updates on my phone is it just not possible due to security?
Thanks!

I would just leave it be. I have two stock N10+'s, one running on 9, the newest on 10. Both will likely remain on that firmware for their lifespan. Both run very well but are heavily optimized including a package disabler. They are very stable, fast and secure. The Pie one's current load will be 2 yo in June with minimal maintenance. That's what they are capable of.
I have very little to gain by rooting and the Snapdragon variant is notoriously hard to root.
Consider what's to gain vs what's to lose.
Not just the Knox features, which I don't use, but the device itself could be bricked. It will easily last another 2+ years* with the only repairs being a battery replacement, and maybe a C port PCB.
My oldest Note is almost 2.5 yo and shows no wear at all, the display is 100% on this heavily used device.
*a good case is mandatory or it will get destroyed. The only thing they like to do more than corner hit (the spen corner is the favorite drop contact point) when dropped is face plant

Possibly this link could help give insight into your difficulty:
Unlock Bootloader on Samsung Galaxy Phones and Tablets [Guide]
A step-by-step guide on how to enable OEM Unlocking and unlock the bootloader on Samsung Galaxy smartphones and tablets, and disable the VaultKeeper service.
www.thecustomdroid.com

[Bounty] SM-N975U1 Note 10+ (USA unlocked version) bootloader unlock and root method
I wanted to start a Bounty for a root method in the SM-N975U1 unlocked US model of the Now 10+. Bounty will be awarded to the first CONFIRMED successful method to unlock the bootloader and root SM-N975U1 unlocked US model of the Now 10+. Xda...
forum.xda-developers.com
Read through and decide... I think only the paid method is available if memory serves me correctly.

blackhawk said:
I would just leave it be. I have two stick N10+'s, one running on 9, the newest on 10. Both will likely remain on that firmware for their lifespan. Both run very well but are heavily optimized including a package disabler. They are very stable, fast and secure. The Pie one's current load will be 2 yo in June with minimal maintenance. That's what they are capable of.
I have very little to gain by rooting and the Snapdragon variant is notoriously hard to root.
Consider what's to gain vs what's to lose.
Not just the Knox features, which I don't use, but the device itself could be bricked. It will easily last another 2+ years* with the only repairs being a battery replacement, and maybe a C port PCB.
My oldest Note is almost 2.5 yo and shows no wear at all, the display is 100% on this heavily used device.
*a good case is mandatory or it will get destroyed. The only thing they like to do more than corner hit (the spen corner is the favorite drop contact point) when dropped is face plant
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Fair point. The Stock Rom isn't bad, just would've liked more options. Thanks for the insight!

Lord_Smeef said:
Fair point. The Stock Rom isn't bad, just would've liked more options. Thanks for the insight!
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It can be daunting at first.
It needs optimizing but many of the Samsung apks especially system ones serve a purpose and use little or no resources unless needed.
The Google apps are some of the worst offenders.
Use the Galaxy Goodlock family of apps to help customize it. Pick a free Galaxy store theme, icon pack and then set whatever wallpaper you want.
This what my N10+'s look like. Note the lack of junk at the top, that's Quickstar doing most of that. One Handed Operation plus gesture switches on the sides. The N10+ has lots of buried features and Galaxy add ons. Get Sound Assistant to increase volume increments up to 100.
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Lord_Smeef said:
Hey there!
Is there any possible way to unlock the bootloader on my Note 10+ or am I completely screwed.
I've tried everything and I can't get the OEM Unlock Feature to appear. Due to updates on my phone is it just not possible due to security?
Thanks
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Have you heard about this service?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unlock-for-samsung-us-canada-devices.4215101/
I used it on my sm-n975u1 and it was cheap and it worked. you can run all official firmware on it, 9, 10, 11, 12. I highly recommend if you are interested in root.

blackhawk said:
It can be daunting at first.
It needs optimizing but many of the Samsung apks especially system ones serve a purpose and use little or no resources unless needed.
The Google apps are some of the worst offenders.
Use the Galaxy Goodlock family of apps to help customize it. Pick a free Galaxy store theme, icon pack and then set whatever wallpaper you want.
This what my N10+'s look like. Note the lack of junk at the top, that's Quickstar doing most of that. One Handed Operation plus gesture switches on the sides. The N10+ has lots of buried features and Galaxy add ons. Get Sound Assistant to increase volume increments up to 100.
.View attachment 5536805View attachment 5536809i
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if you like to theme check out #Hex Installer in playstore, can use in conjunction with GoodLock. I also rooted mine so I am using GravityBox as well.

Just4quora7277 said:
if you like to theme check out #Hex Installer in playstore, can use in conjunction with GoodLock. I also rooted mine so I am using GravityBox as well.
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No need, One UI is the best launchers and my stock N10+'s are exactly looking how I want... except for the page indicators

blackhawk said:
I would just leave it be. I have two stock N10+'s, one running on 9, the newest on 10. Both will likely remain on that firmware for their lifespan. Both run very well but are heavily optimized including a package disabler. They are very stable, fast and secure. The Pie one's current load will be 2 yo in June with minimal maintenance. That's what they are capable of.
I have very little to gain by rooting and the Snapdragon variant is notoriously hard to root.
Consider what's to gain vs what's to lose.
Not just the Knox features, which I don't use, but the device itself could be bricked. It will easily last another 2+ years* with the only repairs being a battery replacement, and maybe a C port PCB.
My oldest Note is almost 2.5 yo and shows no wear at all, the display is 100% on this heavily used device.
*a good case is mandatory or it will get destroyed. The only thing they like to do more than corner hit (the spen corner is the favorite drop contact point) when dropped is face plant
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I understand where you are coming from but that is not the question here. Yes almost all people can use a device fine without access to the bootloader. But for developers this is something that is very useful. Right now, yeah it seems like we are screwed. This is the first and last device I will purchase from Samsung. The bigger point here is that we can't even control the device that we own. I was looking to install a different distro and am unable to. It's not Samsung's place to say how we use our hardware. If it is touted as 'security' then fine, but give people a way to opt-out. If anything, it's to maintain the NSA's backdoor or other 'national security' code. Google devices at least provide straight forward instruction on how to access and flash different operating systems or distros of android.

Still worth it in 2023 ??

Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify ?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you

Get the Note 10+ instead; better specs, more ram and up 1tb expandable storage. The Exynos variants can be rooted but the Snapdragon variants are faster. Excellent build quality and it's a running machine.

6 GB ram and 128 GB memory should be okay for me

nex_t said:
6 GB ram and 128 GB memory should be okay for me
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Never can have too much ram or storage, 256/12gb is the base model. One of the best displays out there. Best display to bezel ratio of anything out there. Very good cams.
Personally I take One UI over Nova; faster, capable, more efficient and very stable.
Only possible deficiency is no 3.5mm jack.
No variable refresh rate and ones with no 5G get very good SOT once optimized. These will run extremely well stock and as such the UI is very customizable.

Excuse me ,I'm not talking about Samsung mobile phones here
You are off topic

nex_t said:
Excuse me ,I'm not talking about Samsung mobile phones here
You are off topic
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Excuse me.
To be concise; I don't think it's worth it.

Okay, thank you

nex_t said:
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify ?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
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Nova works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x after a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery for 2 days long... It's unbeatable in every way.
even with foldables you get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc

xjesus said:
Nova works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x after a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery for 2 days long... It's unbeatable in every way.
even with foldables you get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc
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Nova launcher works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x for 250€ after owning a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery lasts for 2 days... It's unbeatable in every way.
With current foldables you would get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and with mate 20x you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's just like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc. It has dropped several times and no problems so far. Huawei book case is very good for this phone.
Vanced YouTube works as well. FNG gestures works perfect without root.
I can't root or install any different firmware. I thought I was going to miss it from my Xiaomi mi mix, but not so much. I just can't use Titanium backup and can't get rid of all the ads, but I can use dns.adguard.com as a private DNS and it avoids quite some ads.
It's running EMUI 12 and Huawei is still updating its kernel...
Even if I could spend 2000€ in another phone and 20x would cost the same I would choose 20x any time just for the aspect ratio and big unbeatable screen, speakers, robustness and battery optimization.
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nex_t said:
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
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I still rock mine with long battery life of 7 - 9 days under medium use.
My global phone at one point had Nova launcher but eventually it was uninstalled because Nova eats away at battery. Besides, the phone is faster and snappier without it.
Vanced still works on it which is crazy cool.
For installing custom roms, downgrading to 9.0/9.1 is a necessity. But doing so may render newer apps inoperable. Personally, EMUI 12 is better than any version before it - even though its bootloader is locked and installing custom roms is a no no.
Cons for Germany? I cant say since I'm not in Europe.
The only 2 idiotic annoyances with the phone are: 1) auto brightness is enabled at startup and 2) notifications to update to network time. Although the notifications dont happen a lot theyre still annoying. Had there been none of these issues, the phone would be perfect.
At one point, I was thinking of selling it and buying the Note 20 ultra which can be upgraded to One UI 5.1, a very nice UI upgrade touch. But in the end I found myself keeping my 20x because of its wide aspect ratio (which unfortunately phone makers have abandoned as I'm still scratching my head over that) and bigger screen even though the Note 20 Ultra may have sharper resolution. However, if one day my 20x does become broken I will not buy another 20x. Instead I'll buy the N20U.
If you have more questions let me know.

xjesus said:
Nova launcher works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x for 250€ after owning a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery lasts for 2 days... It's unbeatable in every way.
With current foldables you would get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and with mate 20x you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's just like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc. It has dropped several times and no problems so far. Huawei book case is very good for this phone.
Vanced YouTube works as well. FNG gestures works perfect without root.
I can't root or install any different firmware. I thought I was going to miss it from my Xiaomi mi mix, but not so much. I just can't use Titanium backup and can't get rid of all the ads, but I can use dns.adguard.com as a private DNS and it avoids quite some ads.
It's running EMUI 12 and Huawei is still updating its kernel...
Even if I could spend 2000€ in another phone and 20x would cost the same I would choose 20x any time just for the aspect ratio and big unbeatable screen, speakers, robustness and battery optimization.
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How did you get this update? Mine doesnt have Jan 2023 patch still? (5G version though)

Kernel and Security patch is from 2022, but Mainline software update is now "2023-02-01 Q"

xjesus said:
Kernel and Security patch is from 2022, but Mainline software update is now "2023-02-01 Q"
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Is that for the 5G version?

zlaer said:
Is that for the 5G version?
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No, mine is 4G Global version.

xjesus said:
No, mine is 4G Global version.
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Are you sure? My phone is EVR L29-C636 which is 4G... and the last update was from last year in Jan or Feb of 2022. Do you have the same model?
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zlaer said:
Are you sure? My phone is EVR L29-C636 which is 4G... and the last update was from last year in Jan or Feb of 2022. Do you have the same model?
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As I said before, and as you can see in my "Spanish screenshot" above, kernel and security patch from Huawei are from February 2022, and mainline software update (Android update from Google) is from 2023. It's already 2023-02-01
Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know
Android Project Mainline directly updates core OS components with "critical code changes" from Google Play, accelerating Android updates.
www.hexnode.com
My phone is L29

xjesus said:
As I said before, and as you can see in my "Spanish screenshot" above, kernel and security patch from Huawei are from February 2022, and mainline software update (Android update from Google) is from 2023. It's already 2023-02-01
Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know
Android Project Mainline directly updates core OS components with "critical code changes" from Google Play, accelerating Android updates.
www.hexnode.com
My phone is L29
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Appreciate that. I have 2 questions..
1) If you could get the Note 20 Ultra brand new in exchange for the 20x would you exchange it?
2) I keep getting notifications on "network time unavailable" to enable location. How do I disable this annoying notification?

1) Not even a S23 Ultra. Why? Mainly because I'd lose almost 1cm width and 1cm height of screen with the same weight. I'm sure the battery wouldn't last as long, the fingerprint wouldn't work as well, and most probably the UI would be a little faster with 120Hz but again, with a lot of battery drain, I'd miss the 3.5 audio jack and the super speakers from the Mate 20X. I'm not a gamer, but gaming would be something that probably would run faster in the S23 Ultra compared to the Mate 20X. I don't use a Stylus. Phone camera sensors are limited by their size. For the rest I'm sure there is no real gain. Whatsapp, Youtube and Chrome are my main usage of the phone and all I need is the biggest screen and better sound as possible.
2) No clue

xjesus said:
1) Not even a S23 Ultra. Why? Mainly because I'd lose almost 1cm width and 1cm height of screen with the same weight. I'm sure the battery wouldn't last as long,
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Got to say you're wrong about the battery comparison. The s23 ultra"s battery greatly exceeds the one in the 20x by far.

Maybe...
From:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/huawei-mate-20x/battery
https://www.kimovil.com/en/samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra/battery