Hi,
I just got mi mi 10 lite 5g with global rom. Before I had redmi note 7, wich is a perfect phone made xiaomi. I discovered the awful google dialer , sms and calendar not smart at all compared to whom have been used mi since 7 years with xiaomi phones but also before with others chinese phones capable to receive mi roms ( wonderful Zopo) .
I know that for privacy bla bla , mi has forced to use the google package dialer ...
In the other hand, my redmi note 7 has just been updated to miui 12 and to my surprise the dialer sms and calendar are kept to mi.
It seems that for mi 10 lite 5g version I have to install the indian Rom, could someone clever route me to the miui 12 indian version link ?
In case of available one, do you think that I can update firmware without loosing my existing data , sms, photos etc... ?
Thanks in advance for your hints !
I have the Indian version of Mi 10T Lite, its sold by the name Mi 10i 5G in India.
The Indian version has Google Dialer and messaging app, which I don't like at all.
The Google Dialer comes with Call recording Facility, but it begins with an audio notification "THIS CALL IS NOW BEING RECORDED", and I don't like that at all , I feel it defeats the purpose of call recording in most cases.
Thank you for the reply.
Really disappointed with these google app..
Miui app are much smarter.
skystar91 said:
Thank you for the reply.
Really disappointed with these google app..
Miui app are much smarter.
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Just wondering, what extra features MIUI dialer and contacts have opposed to Google apps?
_mysiak_ said:
Just wondering, what extra features MIUI dialer and contacts have opposed to Google apps?
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It is smarter and able to use recording of call, remembering automatically the used sim for contact call, less clicks and confirmations for call dialer , for sms editing and calendar as well.
Really smarter !
I have using it since more than 6years even i have used mi rom ported on another smartphone device.
When you use it, you will see the difference.
skystar91 said:
It is smarter and able to use recording of call, remembering automatically the used sim for contact call, less clicks and confirmations for call dialer , for sms editing and calendar as well.
Really smarter !
I have using it since more than 6years even i have used mi rom ported on another smartphone device.
When you use it, you will see the difference.
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Fair enough, though I don't find anything missing in Google dialer/messages. Call recording is not allowed in my country anyway and I use one SIM only. Any call I make is one or two clicks away. I had been using several SMS apps over the years, but eventually I just settled down with Google messages. Calendar is feature lacking, but for this I have Business calendar app which is miles better than anything stock (be it Google or MIUI). Personally I'm very glad that Xiaomi switched to Google apps and in fact I removed pretty much all remaining MIUI apps from my phone (most of them refuse to launch without accepting Xiaomi data mining anyway).
In each case, Chinese ROM should have all the MIUI apps (or use xiaomi.eu ROM).
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Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
Jerky_san said:
This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
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You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
antiochasylum said:
You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
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#_# Thank god.. for a little there I was scared lol. Never bought a china phone before but this phone looks absolutely amazing.. Have a friend coming back from China tmrw so asked them to pick it up for me before they left and they got me the last one in the store that was 8/256gb. Honestly I'm really hoping for a bootloader unlock and linage OS.. I've come to really love their flavor.
Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. Yes there may be a few things you will need to do, because in China they have banned Google and Google Play. These things will need to be installed manually. Hopefully with Android 9 they've made it easier, not harder than previous years.
After installing the Play Store are you good to go then in terms of being able to install whatever you want (Google suite, traditional apps, etc.)?
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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I had just talk with italian store that sell the chinese version and there are these problems written above
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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piskr said:
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
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https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu/index.aspx?pageid=1748191&prodid=19236868
(I could be wrong) ... but the shop does not look very reputable,
and it's only 20 euros cheaper than Cect-shop.com
Speaking from my own experience. Usually I installed the Google suite from their brands own app store
They have a specific application that installs the framework, Google contact, play services, play store and maybe a couple more services.
After that pretty much everything works. I'll update more when I got my phone.
I can tell you from my experience that when I bought the Huawei Honor Note 8 it was the china version, and had absolutely no issues with it here in the US. Everything I installed worked, the only thing I did have issues with was I couldnt get HiVoice to work in English (Couldnt find any eng version that would work), Ok Google couldnt work due to Hivoice being the default. The other thing I had to tweak was permissions to getting Google voice to work correctly with Android Auto. All the banking and credit card apps worked fine, obviously the wallet program or other things built in didnt work, but wasnt a deal breaker.
mimmog said:
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
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Thank you for the store contact, after considering pros and cons I've just ordered the phone from this store. What drives my decision are few simple facts:
I talked to the seller and he assured me that there is no problem with Gapps and payment systems (like GPay). As I'd had a Chinese phone before I was confident in his assurance.
I'm fully aware of problems with G Assistant but I use it primarily as phone tool with Android Auto and I believe that I could manage to use voice in that restricted purpose.
I don't use voice with the keyboard, health or fitness apps at all. So any misconduct regarding those apps doesn't worry me. It's the same with whatsapp and telegram - don't use them.
Far more annoying is the integration of lousy swift keyboard and ms translate into the system and connecting those applications with primary functionality (camera, AR..). They are really far behind Gboard and G Translate and therefore not only pretty useless but rather the disturbance in the system. But they are integrated into the global rom as well and you can't get rid of them in any region. So tolerate them and suffer or don't have Huawei at all.
But what really prevail in my decision is the fact that I'm buying the phone from a European seller. This not only abolishes any additional taxes and duties on the set price but also gives me an enforceable European warranty and delivery claims.
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
stestesteste said:
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
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Yes but the problem is that not work "ok google", google assistent, gboard with vocal dictate and other (services not application)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
Widevine L3
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What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
mimmog said:
What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
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Maybe, the prize is from Thailand
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The global version I have comes with Google phone app and Google SMS messaging app. Both of these apps as you know do not provide the functionality of the MIUI apps. I have moved from RN4 to RN8 and this is the worst part of this move to be able to settle for less, much less. Same goes for call recording, it's gone.
I have heard that Indian ROM may not have this problem, can anyone from India confirm if this is true?
Also what options do I have to switch the ROM to a version that provides the full MIUI experience not the crappy Google experience.
I'm not sure, but what happens if you reset your phone and at the start configuration you choose "India" or "China" in the country list?
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The global version I have comes with Google phone app and Google SMS messaging app. Both of these apps as you know do not provide the functionality of the MIUI apps. I have moved from RN4 to RN8 and this is the worst part of this move to be able to settle for less, much less. Same goes for call recording, it's gone.
I have heard that Indian ROM may not have this problem, can anyone from India confirm if this is true?
Also what options do I have to switch the ROM to a version that provides the full MIUI experience not the crappy Google experience.
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You can simply flash China version of MIUI and let Xiaomi spy on you agaian
I want to do the same. does this create a problem?
Noter2017 said:
You can simply flash China version of MIUI and let Xiaomi spy on you agaian
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Come on man Google, Facebook, blah blah are already spying on you. Don't worry too much about Chinese spying. MIUI apps really slice up the phone. Especially when themes are changed. Definitely would love a guide to override global rom with Indian rom.
Does ur global vr has 10w charger? Or 18w?
Hey,
I ordered chinese Black Shark 3 and I would like to know if I can flash a global ROM on it ?
Which features could not work after flash ?
Any tuto to flash please ?
Anyway, we are ok to say the only thing between a chinese phone with global rom and global phone is B28 ?
Thanks.
apparently there is no such capability on black shark 3
But you can google about Google installer v3 this works to install google play store and framework which enable you to use as usual global
Chinese bs3 have b28 I test here. I just want to know if bs3 global have widevine l1 ?
Was going to write a few things in the pro forum. Essentially it's the same hardware. I have the BS3 Pro. Installed the V3 apk google installer. Things are a bit messy though. I knew it going into it as I've owned Chinese phones before Huawei etc but no experience with Xiaomi/joyui.
+Google play store, services etc install but there are issues. 2 main ones seem to be GPS being an issue on any app that needs it. Google maps just has a gray dot and can't update my location. Have tried a few things from various sites but it seems Joyui 11 has updated things that make the workarounds useless.
+Chrome browser can't sync with my Google account to let me use bookmarks, passwords, history etc. Clicking on the button does nothing.
+WhatsApp notifications are useless. Can't get them to come through unless I'm in the app. Again lots of previous workarounds don't work. Given all the permissions needed and turned off the battery saver option, locked the app in the background etc.
+This isn't anything official and might be obvious but worth noting. I ran it for over a week without installing google services and the battery was awesome but when google was loaded I can see it drain very quickly.
Hoping to get these issues sorted, had hoped it would be easy enough to flash a global rom but that's looking unlikely based on the BS2 success etc. Otherwise a cracking phone but might have to return it due to these issues.
Google apps worked perfectly and too bad Black shark 3 pro unlocking bootloader currently not availabale...
Anybody here unlock the bootloader bs3 ?
wrinkletit said:
apparently there is no such capability on black shark 3
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Once the roms are available for download, it will be possible.
Same problems with mine with notifications. BS3p
They don't work for ages and then all of a sudden everything is rosey for a few hours, the phone works great, then out of the blue notifications just stop. Like now it's working great WhatsApp, Gmail etc all coming through straight away. In a few hours or a few minutes it'll all go Pete tong.
Then occasionally I'll get 6 notifications all in one hit.
Chrome does work fine though, it's all synced up.
It's very strange.
The only way to get global firmware is hit the door from xiaomi and request this.... china have banned netflix, amazon and whatsapp. This explain why global firmware have widevine L1 and china firmware have L3... and explain too why whatsapp notification never works on china rom, but global works.
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Was going to write a few things in the pro forum. Essentially it's the same hardware. I have the BS3 Pro. Installed the V3 apk google installer. Things are a bit messy though. I knew it going into it as I've owned Chinese phones before Huawei etc but no experience with Xiaomi/joyui.
+Google play store, services etc install but there are issues. 2 main ones seem to be GPS being an issue on any app that needs it. Google maps just has a gray dot and can't update my location. Have tried a few things from various sites but it seems Joyui 11 has updated things that make the workarounds useless.
+Chrome browser can't sync with my Google account to let me use bookmarks, passwords, history etc. Clicking on the button does nothing.
+WhatsApp notifications are useless. Can't get them to come through unless I'm in the app. Again lots of previous workarounds don't work. Given all the permissions needed and turned off the battery saver option, locked the app in the background etc.
+This isn't anything official and might be obvious but worth noting. I ran it for over a week without installing google services and the battery was awesome but when google was loaded I can see it drain very quickly.
Hoping to get these issues sorted, had hoped it would be easy enough to flash a global rom but that's looking unlikely based on the BS2 success etc. Otherwise a cracking phone but might have to return it due to these issues.
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did you have allow all permission on each app? by all permission i mean all permission including the sms etc2 make everything green tick
and put the important apps like whatsapp or gmail to no be affected by miui battery saver (appinfo>batterysaver)
and put autostart on, if you want your device to start the app without you launch it first time every reboot.
be prepare! poor battery oerformance is coming
jbaggs said:
Was going to write a few things in the pro forum. Essentially it's the same hardware. I have the BS3 Pro. Installed the V3 apk google installer. Things are a bit messy though. I knew it going into it as I've owned Chinese phones before Huawei etc but no experience with Xiaomi/joyui.
+Google play store, services etc install but there are issues. 2 main ones seem to be GPS being an issue on any app that needs it. Google maps just has a gray dot and can't update my location. Have tried a few things from various sites but it seems Joyui 11 has updated things that make the workarounds useless.
+Chrome browser can't sync with my Google account to let me use bookmarks, passwords, history etc. Clicking on the button does nothing.
+WhatsApp notifications are useless. Can't get them to come through unless I'm in the app. Again lots of previous workarounds don't work. Given all the permissions needed and turned off the battery saver option, locked the app in the background etc.
+This isn't anything official and might be obvious but worth noting. I ran it for over a week without installing google services and the battery was awesome but when google was loaded I can see it drain very quickly.
Hoping to get these issues sorted, had hoped it would be easy enough to flash a global rom but that's looking unlikely based on the BS2 success etc. Otherwise a cracking phone but might have to return it due to these issues.
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So by chance did you ever get whatsapp up and running? Im having the same problem with my phone. I dont even mind the hit to the battery life because the warp charging means its never down for long but the lack of incomming messages is a dealbreaker for me.
I don't know much this will help but I was able to fix location issues. You must allow location access all the time for Google Play services. Location now works in Google Maps and Uber.
If anybody want to change chinese to global
Please contact me telegram @hoangtieubao
I will help u
i need your help
hoangtieubao said:
If anybody want to change chinese to global
Please contact me telegram @hoangtieubao
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i have a BS3PRO chinese rom i need it to be Global rom
Hi guys, heard my friend going to release bs3pro global fastboot ver. Please wait for it but not sure when...
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Hey, and for BS3 pls too
For those of you that are interested in doin the conversion yourself there is a thread in the bs3 pro section that has the files and instructions
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...bootloader-t4140001/post83225465#post83225465
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If anybody want to change chinese to global
Please contact me telegram @hoangtieubao
I will help u
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free?
hehk1234 said:
Chinese bs3 have b28 I test here. I just want to know if bs3 global have widevine l1 ?
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Can you upload a twrp backup bro? I want to go back to Chinese version
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If anybody want to change chinese to global
Please contact me telegram @hoangtieubao
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I need help for blackshark 2 china unlock bootloader I will pay
Hi All
I have ordered Poco M2 pro recently (6/64) at a pre-exchange price of 12339 INR (Post exchange 11339)
I have the option to order Redmi Note 9 Pro Max (6/64) at approx. 12610 INR (Same phone not available for exchange here)
Two main questions and opinions I need from you please:
1) How much better is the Redmi note 9 pro max camera compared to Poco M2 pro? Is it worth spending extra for Redmi Note 9 pro max over Poco M2 pro?
2) Although, noone is mentioned it specifically, looking at some of the videos in youtube of Redmi Note 9 pro max post MiUI 12 update, it seems it retains the Mi dialer and messaging app. Is it correct or it also loses these and gets the google dialer and messaging apps? I guess Poco gets updated to google dialer and messaging apps. Please clarify on this. It is important for me to be able to use Mi dialer and messaging apps.
I am not much concerned about ads as I will anyway debloat both using MIUI debloater and disable all ads.
Please help decide which one I should go for.
Any other difference or something which I should consider?
Also, is there a known reliable way to install the Mi dialer and messaging apps on Poco M2 pro without rooting?
My device is updated to miui 12 and i don't think its on Google's dialer and message app..
Why it'll update to google dialer?? When it has its own OS..
Check SS below poco m2 pro
Probably you are not aware that all xiaomi, redmi, realme, oneplus new devices are coming with google dialer and messaging apps instead of their own dialers and messaging apps to comply with some european regulations. Only some country specific roms like that of indonesia retain miui dialer and messaging apps. Xiaomi has officially confirmed this will continue in future also. I saw review videos of poco m2 pro miui 12 update on youtube and the dialer and messaging apps have changed to google after the update.
You are using the stock rom or any custom miui rom? @abhi.s4u
Check here: https://youtu.be/OI8-xS9POPE
https://youtu.be/y9prIls1u6k
saurav_k said:
Probably you are not aware that all xiaomi, redmi, realme, oneplus new devices are coming with google dialer and messaging apps instead of their own dialers and messaging apps to comply with some european regulations. Only some country specific roms like that of indonesia retain miui dialer and messaging apps. Xiaomi has officially confirmed this will continue in future also. I saw review videos of poco m2 pro miui 12 update on youtube and the dialer and messaging apps have changed to google after the update.
You are using the stock rom or any custom miui rom? @abhi.s4u
Check here: https://youtu.be/OI8-xS9POPE
https://youtu.be/y9prIls1u6k
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Bro its poco launcher's default icon pack which looks like google's icon pack.. its just icons thats y i hv uploaded screenshot..
I think u r talking about this video right
Check out below
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Bro its poco launcher's default icon pack which looks like google's icon pack.. its just icons thats y i hv uploaded screenshot..
I think u r talking about this video right
Check out below
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Yes. Thanks for clarifying. Good to know m2 pro is not losing mi dialer. Recently launched poco x3 comes with google dialer in Indian also.
One more question. How is the speaker and headset audio quality. Heard some bad reviews about audio quality of m2 pro.
Neither its bad nor its good.. in the budget its okey..
One or two times i face earfone jack issue i mean sound didn't come in the earfone when plugged in..
Well its just random after restart its okey..
Hi,
I have been using Poco F1 since 2018. Now i got my new Poco F3 but i really shocked when i didn't find the Original Poco's dialer/messages App, they're replaced by Google Apps
From my point of view Poco's dialer/messages so much better,
Is there any dialer/messages better than Google Apps?
msdn70 said:
Hi,
I have been using Poco F1 since 2018. Now i got my new Poco F3 but i really shocked when i didn't find the Original Poco's dialer/messages App, they're replaced by Google Apps
From my point of view Poco's dialer/messages so much better,
Is there any dialer/messages better than Google Apps?
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Messages are definitely better by Google as when you click on "send a message" via the phone dialer, it takes you to messages and shows you previous messages while Mi messages app doesn't. Overall the messages app is better by google.
Phone app however is by far the best on miui. It's smooth, has auto call recording, smaller fonts, caller photo id, etc. Literally everything about the mi dialer is better.
If you want the mi dialer, I suggest you flash Indonesian rom or Xiaomi.eu rom.
msdn70 said:
Hi,
I have been using Poco F1 since 2018. Now i got my new Poco F3 but i really shocked when i didn't find the Original Poco's dialer/messages App, they're replaced by Google Apps
From my point of view Poco's dialer/messages so much better,
Is there any dialer/messages better than Google Apps?
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on my F3 (Indonesia) it use MIUI for both dialer & Message, though it can't be fully customised it (themed it) unlesh you flash mi eu
And is there any Miui dialer application port?
None to be aware of.
regedit12345 said:
Messages are definitely better by Google as when you click on "send a message" via the phone dialer, it takes you to messages and shows you previous messages while Mi messages app doesn't. Overall the messages app is better by google.
Phone app however is by far the best on miui. It's smooth, has auto call recording, smaller fonts, caller photo id, etc. Literally everything about the mi dialer is better.
If you want the mi dialer, I suggest you flash Indonesian rom or Xiaomi.eu rom.
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Thanks for your detailed reply, I agree with you regarding Messages App, but for me "I don't trust Google".
msdn70 said:
Thanks for your detailed reply, I agree with you regarding Messages App, but for me "I don't trust Google".
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then you wont trust xiaomi as well