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The Samsung charger adapter which comes in the box is very slow in nature. It take more than 2 hours to charge my phone. I was wondering if I can use the following Nokia brand chargers which are fast chargers?
Nokia Charger Adapter CA-146C
Nokia Fast Micro-USB Charger AC-10
It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
Are you really sure about this? Can you link me to some articles which confirm this.
Even I was thinking about purchasing AC-10 charger from Nokia.
How fast is the nokia charger?
0-10% -> 100% in an hour or less?
Joey2o11 said:
It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
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I'm not sure about this. I have a friend with a Blackberry Playbook and he reckons his phone charges much faster if he uses the charger from that.
The "stock" S2 charger is 700mA - it doesn't take a genius to work out that for a 1650mAh battery this will take about 2.5 hours to fully charge the battery under ideal conditions (phone off) or anything from 3-6 hours with the phone on, depending all what's running or if you're using the phone while it's charging.
Which is all pretty ridiculous - ok we're comparing apples and oranges when we compare a S2 to the likesw of a Nokia, but I do miss the days when I could charge my phone in an hour and have it last two or three days. I thought my Blackberry was bad but at least I can usually squeeze a full day out of it...
The only wall wart I had lying around that was more than 700mA was a 5V 2A supply. I've tried with that which works, but the phone chokes with a "battery overtemp" warning after about 10 minutes - which tells me I AM pumping more into the battery than it can handle. This would suggest that there IS a happy medium where we can optimize the battery charge time - I'm bust looking for a 1A supply...
I have TWO AC-10Xs, and am using it with the Ninphetamene kernel (which comes with increased charge input mods to 800ma) fine. Charges to full in about 2.5-3 hours.
I've never gotten overcharge errors either.
Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
DobermanS said:
Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
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The phone (specifically, the kernel) limits charge coming in, and there MUST be hardware limiters on the batteries and the phone themselves (which, in some cheapo batteries DON'T WORK and results in them frying themselves and the phone in process) and the batteries are replaceable anyway.
eranyanay said:
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
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i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
ledavi said:
i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
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That's good to know that the current is regulated by the device.
Is there a software to see what is the current taken by the phone?
As long ad the temperture isn't higher than 45degrees is it ok?
By the way, Im pretty sure that usb outputs 0.5A and not 1A
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battery monitor widget
It seems logical to be able to use all chargers as smartphones all have micro usb .
(I 'm not sute that's mean something in english, sorry)
Great widget! thanks.
I really like the data it gives!
Sadly, while charging with my .7A original charger & meanwhile giving a hotspot to my laptop, it shows that only 76mA comes in!
hehe, gonna take forever to charge the battery this way.
i doubt this. i'm still worried about the compatible problem~~~
After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
Let's see if I can help make things a bit clearer. Feel free to correct where I may be off.
The Nokia thing, it's not a charger. It's a power supply.
The "charger" is built into your phone, hardware-wise.
How can I prove it?
Take the Samsung supplied cable, plug it into your computer. You'll see that your phone is charging too. No, the cable is not a charger. Do you think your computer is a special built charger for your phone? Hardly.
The charging circuit is within the phone, and thus charging the battery when there's available power.
Ok, so we have the charger (i.e. the mobile phone), we have the battery, we need the power. Where do we get power from? The wall adapters (or computers). So what are the wall adapters? Ratings of 1000mah means that the wall adapter can provide up to 1000ma per hour.
However, your charging circuit will determine how much current to actually draw. For example, drawing 800mah for 10 min may raise the temperature to 55 degrees, so after 10 min the charging circuit drops the charging current to 500mah.
Of course, if you're using el cheapo cables, some cables may not be able to support the current draw and you may find that even with 20000000mah power supplies your phone can only draw 100mah.
The SGS2 heats up pretty easily, and it doesn't quite draw beyond 700mah. The circuit built into the phone doesn't allow it to, if i'm not wrong. If your phone is overheating while charging, you better change your case as it's going to cause your phone to overheat sooner or later.
Using a 20000000mah power supply isn't an issue, because the charging circuit within the phone will be able to draw only a certain amount.
Me, I plug my SGS2 into a 2Ah charger every night to charge, and yes it's perfectly fine. I'm only upset that after buying an expensive 2A charger, I realised that the phone is not able to draw high currents (phone even heats up to 55degree Celsius when charging).
Charging the phone on a ice pack (which lowered the phone temperature to 16 degrees while charging) didn't increase the amount of current drawn by the phone, even on a 2A power supply.
My humble advise is, stick with the stock power supply, or at most get a 1A version. No need to splash for a 2A power supply. If you really need faster charging, get a battery charging dock.
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After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
I thought the whole idea of having a universal micro USB charging connection across most good brands was so you could use other chargers!
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
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Well I just like the widget, which shows me also the battery temperture
I hope it doesnt takes too much
Just wondering because I don't want to mess up my battery but would rather not have to buy another car charger if I don't have to.
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Just wondering because I don't want to mess up my battery but would rather not have to buy another car charger if I don't have to.
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I would use it personally, but hopefully someone in the know can give a better answer.
I would compare the amp against the charger.
if it's less which most car chargers are, than you are ok..
only prob. you'd have is if a charger was putting out too much amp and toast the battery.
my 2 cents
take with grain of salt.
I believe it's actually the other way around. You can use a more powerful charger on a device that requires less, because the device will only draw the power it needs.
However don't use a charger that doesn't have enough power to charge the device, as the device could draw more power than the charger can provide and you risk catching the charger on fire.
This is how MacBook chargers work anyway. For example you can use an 85 watt charger to charge a 45 watt MacBook but you should not use a 45 watt charger to charge an 85 watt MacBook. (I have a few MacBooks that's why I used that reference).
I would assume cell phone chargers are the same concept.
Sent from my HTC One.
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I believe it's actually the other way around. You can use a more powerful charger on a device that requires less, because the device will only draw the power it needs.
However don't use a charger that doesn't have enough power to charge the device, as the device could draw more power than the charger can provide and you risk catching the charger on fire.
This is how MacBook chargers work anyway. For example you can use an 85 watt charger to charge a 45 watt MacBook but you should not use a 45 watt charger to charge an 85 watt MacBook. (I have a few MacBooks that's why I used that reference).
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Yep. A device will only pull the current that it needs, so high-powered PSUs on low-current devices is fine and dandy. The only difference in electrical output that would fry the phone would be voltage, but since all USB chargers "are supposed to" put out 5VDC, you're safe.
As for using chargers with less than sufficient current, I can only speak to my experience. Personally, I've never had an issue charging any of my more beefy devices (Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, or HTC One) off of an old 500ma charger that came with my Galaxy S (or a car charger with that same output, for that matter). The devices just charge slower. The PSU gets noticeably warm, but I'd never say it got hot to the point where the threat of combustion was even remotely possible. And as for the comparison to the MacBook charger, you're talking a difference of 40 watts, whereas these little USB chargers have a difference of maybe 2.5 watts (from the 500ma to 1A models). Not a lot of power there, really.
That said, if I were to buy a new one, I'd definitely get a charger that has the output spec to match or exceed the device's OEM charger.
I have been using the Moto charger (both USB and car, borrowed from previous Razr Maxx) and they both work great. No issues.
Your phone will regulate the power so you will have nothing to worry about with almost any charger. I plug my phone into my tablets charger all the time which is 2.1a and have never had a problem. My HTC DNA was the only one that had an issue, it would say it's not the proper charger and it's enabling slow charging. Long story short, you should have no issues
Method:
First I used my phone until the battery was below 15% in order to get a better picture of what the charging would look like over almost a full battery cycle. I did not start at the same battery percentage for each test because I did not find any benefit to doing so. I original did this for uniformity, but it did not make a difference after trying it using the more accurate equipment.
I then cleared my history in the Battery Monitor Pro Widget (BMW Pro) recording app which was used to log the battery [mV], battery temperature [F], time, and battery percentage changes. Once this was done I plugged in my USB Power Monitor, turned airplane mode on, removed the case, and let the phone charge. I started logging the data via my power monitor once the phone showed it was charging. From this point onward I let the phone charge without interrupting it until it reached 100%, then I let it charge for another 10-60 minutes to see if it was still drawing power from each charger. Once all of this was done, I exported my data collected from BMW Pro, emailed it to myself, and pasted it along with the USB Power Monitor data into an Excel spreadsheet. All of the data was then delimited to separate the clusters of data due to the way they were recorded, and subsequently graphed. The USB Power Monitor recorded data points every 0.36 seconds, while the BMW Pro took recordings every 5 seconds because I was having issues with the “real-time” recording option in the app working correctly.
All of the data was then graphed into the nice figures you will see below; each color reflects the same variable across all of the graphs to make reading them easier. I included a legend at the top of each set of graphs which should also help make it easier to read the data.
Equipment:
These tests were conducted using a series of different chargers. The same brand was used for both Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 tests to minimize experimental error; This trend remained the same was also done for the wireless charging tests
Wall Chargers:
Quick Charge 2.0: Tronsmart 18W charger 5V/2A, 9V/2A, 12V/1.5A
Quick Charge 3.0: Tronsmart 18W charger 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, 9-12V/1.5A
Cable(s):
Stock HTC USB A-C cable
USB inline Power Monitor:
XYZ Studio 0-24V, 0-3A USB Power Monitor
Tronsmart 5-12V USB multimeter (not used in this test, but was used in the older version)
Software/App(s):
Battery Monitor Widget Pro
Excel
Notepad++
Realterm (for the USB power monitor logging)
QC 3.0 Stock Charger
QC 3.0 Tronsmart Charger
QC 2.0 Tronsmart Charger
Data Tables
Full sized versions of the graphs, and tables can be found here
Video detailing the results can be found here
I thought qc 3.0 was just supposed to be more energy efficient and produce less heat than qc 2.0. I never heard it was supposed to be faster.
jollywhitefoot said:
I thought qc 3.0 was just supposed to be more energy efficient and produce less heat than qc 2.0. I never heard it was supposed to be faster.
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It is supposed to be more efficient and charge faster. (see attached Qualcomm promotional images)
I like your Tests. But why do you measure all 5 Minutes?
The App BatteryLog Records state every time the % changes.
Sadly the Bluetooth Module on my usb Powermeter broke off. So I have to get this repaired first before I can do any charging Benchmarks
Haldi4803 said:
I like your Tests. But why do you measure all 5 Minutes?
The App BatteryLog Records state every time the % changes.
Sadly the Bluetooth Module on my usb Powermeter broke off. So I have to get this repaired first before I can do any charging Benchmarks
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Actually recording it is more accurate than any app will be. Now that I have a baseline I could see if the app is accurate but the last time I checked out wasn't.
the HTC 10 charging slows down after 90% is that accounted for in these test? it reaches 90% in less than an hour
hamdir said:
the HTC 10 charging slows down after 90% is that accounted for in these test? it reaches 90% in less than an hour
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Yes, it gets dreadfully slow after 90% (I can upload my spreadsheet of the charging data to google drive if you want to see it, or post the table in the OP).
You can check the OP in about 10 minutes for an update
OP Updated:
-Historical charging tests added as a reference
-HTC 10 QC 3.0 full data table added
-First 1 hour charging data added for 3 devices including the HTC 10
Lol, the voltage curve is awesome xD
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Lol, the voltage curve is awesome xD
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I can add an actual plot of it too if you would like. I am going to conduct a test using QC 2.0 to see how it consists to QC 3.0 maybe tonight if I get a chance. If there's s anything you would like to see let me but know.
I'm not sure is this is accounted for but I've noticed this is the first phone I've had that I can remember having the battery percentage seem accurate. My G3 would hit 100% but if I left it on the charger an hour past that, I got more out of my "100%". I would at times get 30 mins SoT on 100% but then 3 mins per afterwards. My HTC 10 actually seems to drain evenly throughout the 3000mAh which means while a G3 may read 100%, it's actually at 91%. Other phones could have inaccurate percentage reporting which make for a greater perceived charging speed.
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I'm not sure is this is accounted for but I've noticed this is the first phone I've had that I can remember having the battery percentage seem accurate. My G3 would hit 100% but if I left it on the charger an hour past that, I got more out of my "100%". I would at times get 30 mins SoT on 100% but then 3 mins per afterwards. My HTC 10 actually seems to drain evenly throughout the 3000mAh which means while a G3 may read 100%, it's actually at 91%. Other phones could have inaccurate percentage reporting which make for a greater perceived charging speed.
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That's why I measured the true 100% via a multimeter, otherwise it would be hard to tell if it really was at 100%.
Pilz said:
That's why I measured the true 100% via a multimeter, otherwise it would be hard to tell if it really was at 100%.
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My mistake. I should've read more lol And I'm always upset when people post without reading the OP. :silly: I got caught up by all the pretty graphs.
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My mistake. I should've read more lol And I'm always upset when people post without reading the OP. :silly: I got caught up by all the pretty graphs.
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No problem! I can make them less post t if that helps
Update coming tomorrow with a QC 2.0 test for the HTC 10. A quick preview: QC 2.0 seems to be better during the first hour data tables, graphs and comments to follow
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HTC 10 QC 2.0 test and more data added
I am in the process of conduction a second round of testing using a Tronsmart QC 3.0 wall charger, and a Tronsmart QC 2.0 version of the same charger. I am using the same brand of chargers for consistency.
Pilz said:
I am in the process of conduction a second round of testing using a Tronsmart QC 3.0 wall charger, and a Tronsmart QC 2.0 version of the same charger. I am using the same brand of chargers for consistency.
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Since you've done a lot of charging, are chargers with QC 3.0 supposed to read "Charging Rapidly"? My QC 3.0 car charger didn't say "Charging Rapidly" with USB C to C and I'm wondering if I need to send it back. It did charge mighty fast though.
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Since you've done a lot of charging, are chargers with QC 3.0 supposed to read "Charging Rapidly"? My QC 3.0 car charger didn't say "Charging Rapidly" with USB C to C and I'm wondering if I need to send it back. It did charge mighty fast though.
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Well what charger were you using? If the charger doesn't support QC 2.0/3.0 from the Type-C port and instead uses the Type-C standard (5V/3A) that the Nexus 5X/6P use, then it won't fast charge. I never look at what the phone says because its irrelevant so I use a multimeter instead. The only downside to that is that no C-C multimeter's exist yet. The phone can only support 1 charging standard at a time, so that means it either supports Quick Charge 1.0/2.0/3.0 or Type-C fast charging not both. That is why is will charge slower over a C-C cable unless the Type-C port on the charger supports Quick Charge from Qualcomm not the USB standard version.
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Well what charger were you using? If the charger doesn't support QC 2.0/3.0 from the Type-C port and instead uses the Type-C standard (5V/3A) that the Nexus 5X/6P use, then it won't fast charge. I never look at what the phone says because its irrelevant so I use a multimeter instead. The only downside to that is that no C-C multimeter's exist yet. The phone can only support 1 charging standard at a time, so that means it either supports Quick Charge 1.0/2.0/3.0 or Type-C fast charging not both. That is why is will charge slower over a C-C cable unless the Type-C port on the charger supports Quick Charge from Qualcomm not the USB standard version.
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The Aukey 3 port car charger and it says the USB-C port is QC 3.0. Guess I should assume it's actually doing what it's supposed to since it charges stupid fast.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-AiPow...UTF8&qid=1463369439&sr=8-9&keywords=aukey+3.0
On Topic: Those numbers for the HTC 10 QC 2.0 vs 3.0 are very interesting. Looks like QC 3.0 is definitely more efficient. And I assume changes in voltage are it monitoring temps and trying to keep them down. This is all new to me so I'm learning.
mosincredible said:
The Aukey 3 port car charger and it says the USB-C port is QC 3.0. Guess I should assume it's actually doing what it's supposed to since it charges stupid fast.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-AiPow...UTF8&qid=1463369439&sr=8-9&keywords=aukey+3.0
On Topic: Those numbers for the HTC 10 QC 2.0 vs 3.0 are very interesting. Looks like QC 3.0 is definitely more efficient. And I assume changes in voltage are it monitoring temps and trying to keep them down. This is all new to me so I'm learning.
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It should charge at QC 3.0 speeds from my understanding. I have a Tronsmart wall charger that supports QC 3.0 over type-c, so I can test it when I get a chance.
I am redoing both tests with the same brand of charger since I used the stock HTC charger for the 3.0 and a Choetech one for the 2.0 test. I will be using Tronsmart chargers for each of the new tests, and I will post them up with the old ones. The QC 3.0 does really keep the heat down that much, because if it did the current and voltage could be much closer to the 18W it seems to support on this phone. QC 2.0 seems more consistent and maintains its output longer before tapering off which can be a bad or good thing. I might download an app to verify my results and to see the temperature, but I don't know how well that will work and or if it will affect the charging times.
hi guys,
i have two chargers,
1. output 9.0V 1.67A or 5.0V 2.0A
2. output 5.2V 2.4A
and a usb-c cable, in the cable box i find that this cable is supporting for fast charging and support to 2.4A but when i tried it with the two chargers, and test it using 'ampere' app i got max to 1010mA with both chargers adapter ! even with this value i feel it charging my mobile quickly, and in the bottom of the lock screen i see 'charging rapidly' but i want more and why the phone is not charged depending on the values in the chargers (1.67A - 2.0A - 2.4A) and cable (2.4A)
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
sublimaze said:
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There's nothing I can help you guys with. All I can tell you is what ratings your charger should have, based upon the information printed on the pair of chargers I received with my device when I purchased it directly from Google. If you have a genuine Google charger and the P2XL is still not charging fast, contact Google.
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
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Unfortunately, i hope someone could help
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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maybe your opinion is right. my next experiment is from 0% to 100% with the old charger and with the stock charger, then i will see if there is a difference
tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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That makes sense then, it seems like everything gets more complicated every year.
I just purchased one of these from Amazon. Note that it supports Power Delivery 3.0. This unit quick charges my phone. The Moto Charger I have for my old Moto G5+ which is a Qualcomm charger will charge the phone but only at slow speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H6BQNGF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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i bought this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570
what do you think ?
If it is really the OEM parts that will work. The pictures look like mine, but ya know eBay....
In the USA Samsung have a charging kit which includes a 45 watt charger. No sign of something similar in the UK. Anyone spotted the official or compatible charger. Thanks in advance.
Edit Sorry just seen another thread on this subject.
Any word of a mobile charger with the same wattage/charging power ?
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
jah said:
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
scarygood536 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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Some advice on Note 10+ fast chargers in this article:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/08/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-fast-charging.html
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
RR-99 said:
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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That's exactly what I've been thinking too. I don't even own a wireless charger, have no need for it. When I need to charge my phone I just charge it with the reg. charger or plug it in, in the car. The existing fast charge technology is fast enough. I added that above post seeing that there is much interest in this subject.
I've heard that the N10+ stock 25W brick takes only about 1 hour+ to go from 25% to full. The 50W charger is just another 'hype', in my opinion, created by the phone manufacturers to show-off that they are on top of the best technology there is. And, of course, to get some extra revenue.
Edit: some reviews say it gets really hot.
This says it uses PPS 2.0, do you guys think it's legit?
DBPOWER USB Type C Charger, USB-C Charger with Power Delivery 45W/60W USB Wall Charger for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, iPad Air 2/Mini, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, Galaxy S9/S8, LG, Nexus, Pixel, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM8ZWY3/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_-GyxDbPDPKPR0
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
mzsquared said:
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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"We weren’t able to test the 45W Super Fast charger ourselves, but on 25W, our Galaxy Note 10+ review unit went from 5% to 60% in 30 minutes with the device turned on and the screen turned off."
I just bought my 45W samsung charger via samsung using my reward points. Total cost is $5 (tax) that I have to pay for out of pocket. Worth it for me.
RR-99 said:
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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Personally, I charge my device at least twice a day, more if I connect to my audio interface as that draws power from the phone. I also have the hotspot permanently turned on which can kill the battery really quickly.
Dont really care what it's doing to the battery as it'll be gone back to Samsung next year through the upgrade program.
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
I got the Ugreen 45w PD charger.
legrunt said:
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
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Unfortunately even having a PPS charger doesn't do the trick - I have an AUKEY 60W charger with PPS and it is charging slower than the stock 25W
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ggrant3876 said:
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
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Yeah that item on amazon now has a note:
- This charger does not support 45W fast charging for Samsung Note 10.
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You should be able to use most usb C laptop chargers to get the 45W power output, but it also has to have PPS as far as what I have understood. The original one will work of course and it's always the recommended choice - tough you may ask yourself if you really need it.
I bought one for travelling. When flying I have moments that I really have to charge fast. And as it may not be perfect for the battery I will just use it when flying.
I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I really would like to know more about it. I mostly buy a new one every year, and pass the "old" ones to my (grand)children.:angel:
So personally I am not interested in battery life
I bought a belkin QC4 PD charger. 27w. Chargers 50% in 35 mins. Don't buy cheap chinese crap and risk burning your house down.