Took me 3 days.... But I'm ready to release a guide.
Overall 3 minute process just need to do everything properly
This is as title states.. to FORCE chat heads back onto your phone!
If your like me you must be dreading the new bubbles feature .. missing messages, not bubbling all the time, not closing when in the app... Just overall crap!
And they have blocked older apps from sending pictures.... but I've come up with a strange fix!!!
First and foremost, if you close the app or restart your phone you WILL have to repeat this process... Simply because messenger auto updates.... But I rarely restart my phone.. and it's worth having the working chat heads back!!!
To start: go into play store and unclick auto updates for messenger
Then delete it
Then go download the app called island, set it up and get it running
Go fine the messenger app from sep to Oct of 2019 Version 234.xxx or newer by a few releases.
Install this app onto your phone
Open app and verify CHAT HEADS is still in settings and NOT bubbles!!!
Go into Island!
Click MAINLAND and scroll down to messenger
Click messenger and on the bottom right click the 2 box's with a + on it
Now it's installed in your phone a second time under workprofile.
Go into app drawer and click the second play store(with the little icon on bottom right that's the app from the island app) search messenger and DISABLE AUTO UPDATES!!!!
(If it auto updates before you did this you will need to go into Island click island at the top beside mainland, and uninstall it, then recopy it over and reset it up.
Then
In your app drawer you will see a second messenger with a little icon on the bottom right, that's the new one, open and set it up.
Again VERIFY it has CHAT HEADS in settings, this time click it and go into the app settings with the first thing it highlights (system preferences or whatever the left option is that isn't under work)
Once it loads the Android settings to allow display over other apps click work at the top and scroll down to the messenger and allow
You now have working bubbles but can't send pics yet!
To fix that problem, update the messenger app from within the play store (WITHOUT THE BOTTOM RIGHT LITTLE ICON) it will update the app installed on your phone, it will **** your app installed in island down and do some weird semi update...
Then you open the island messenger app(with icon on bottom right) to verify it it still has chat heads I'm settings if it does you are good to send pictures now with working chat heads.(if it went to bubbles the initial restart uninstall messenger from island side inside the island app, then restart the process(happened to me a few times in my testing)
This is what I'm calling an ""in-between"" 2 restart app update. As the next shutdown you'll be dealing with bubbles ...
The few quirks:
cannot close messenger or restart phone or you will need to repeat(it's about 2 minutes flat after a restart to reset it up) (slight fix aside from never restarting to begin with is I locked the work messenger app in recents window and it doesn't close anymore!)
You can't read the mainland data(aka can't send screenshots in the app inside island that chat heads works because it can't read mainland data (but there's a way to set this up I believe in settings I just can't get adb to connect) so no pics or anything from mainland apps
(My get by for this above issue is to use the updated messenger on the mainland side to send anything pic/screenshot/video wise((or move camera apps and gallery over to island and have ability to see everything done with the island side of camera apps inside the chat heads messenger)))
There is I believe a few ways to allow them to read each other I just haven't fully sug into that yet
Video recording is for some reason cut to 15 seconds with the app in island for some reason after the force update.
Sorry for this being mad long but it's not that bad it works and really only takes 2 minutes, and if wanted I can make a 3 minute screen record of the whole process.... I just couldn't take the bubbles anymore
You can't restart your phone or close the app because after you updated the mainland app(phone side messenger app) it updated the app in island as well. That's why it closes on you when updating. You get one opening of the app """in-between""" the update being applied all the way. It sometimes sticks on the first restart but just restart the process!
This goes to show it's not a security issue, or a broken feature issue, this is Facebook doing what the want as always.
Day 2 no issues
Would like to point out it's random with the video recording, you might get 15 seconds you might get 20... Idk what's up with that but it works.
And it also gets rid of the stories bubble that was always to the far left( was always an annoyance for me )
Wanna throw an update up,
I clear my cache for all apps daily... But today she got pretty laggy so I just redid my process to get chat heads back.
All still well on this truck, but seems like the app might need a restart a week in I guess.
For me this is still worth dealing with bubbles but I wanted everyone to know what they walk into ✔
Next time it gets laggy il clear data see if that works without it fixing bubbles and repost maybe il get lucky and just a data clear will work
I hate bubbles... They are so broken
Last update.
All is well I do have to reinstall the app now and then due to it getting laggy(usually a few days in or whatever)
But otherwise has been much better to deal with then bubbles.
Clearing storage makes it update so that's a no go
So I basically reinstall it once a week or so and I'm set.
Phone's been good about staying on days at a time still solid 7 hours of screen on time with screen at Qhd 120hz 510 dpi wifi on 24/7 Bluetooth on 24/7 atnt connected and verizon connected. Streaming music and watching videos for 5 to 6 of the 7 hours alive. I'm a heavy heavy user and I'm happy finally
aVider said:
I hate bubbles... They are so broken
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Me too man drives me ****ing nuts.
I do this process 2 to 3 times a week due to messenger auto updating in the background now but I'll never stop. Someone has to know how to crack this app and shut bubbles down.
They are forcing bubbles not Android. And I've had it with this crap
Last update tho, it seems to have started auto updating in the background which is okay because it's usually every few days keeps the app fresh and running smooth.
I do my process about 2 to 3 times a week but I will continue until someone figured out how to crack into this damn app and fix this for us
Someone's gotta be able to
Still going strong no issues
I have turned off bubbles in settings and it seems to stop the force updating.
Also now and then it seems to update all the way on the initial install of the main phone app I usually have the wife spam me until it's installed and that usually stoped the second app from fully updating
And last thing I use the main messenger app without chat heads to send screenshots only. With notifications off and batter optimization on.
All has been smooth and I plan to continue to do this
Bro i think i found a way .. 2 days now no bubbles
first uninstall Messenger and reboot phone
2nd. Install Messenger Build 240 .. and enable chat heads and stop auto update
3rd. Install Messenger Build 285.0.0.17.119 .. Done .. do not update it ..
now chat heads working + sending photos .. stable
EDIT :
it updated it self also :'( .. we need someone make a mod and modify APK
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Bro i think i found a way .. 2 days now no bubbles
first uninstall Messenger and reboot phone
2nd. Install Messenger Build 240 .. and enable chat heads and stop auto update
3rd. Install Messenger Build 285.0.0.17.119 .. Done .. do not update it ..
now chat heads working + sending photos .. stable
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it updated it self also :'( .. we need someone make a mod and modify APK
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Use my method. I get a week without any issues I have to reinstall about once a week but I can feel with that over the trash bubbles.
If you guys want I can post a screen record of my process being done in about a minute flat. This seems to be the only way
Yes please record it
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Use my method. I get a week without any issues I have to reinstall about once a week but I can feel with that over the trash bubbles.
If you guys want I can post a screen record of my process being done in about a minute flat. This seems to be the only way
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Yes please record it
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Ill have a video on youtube in an hour.
It's a bit tedious but it works once you do it a couple times it's a regular thing I just can't use bubbles
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Yes please record it
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Sorry it took me so long to see your post brother but here it is if you follorlw the guide or this you will be fine.
The quality will get better when they finish processing it
I found out the hard way do not search a message with the chat heads messenger and then try to send them media. That does an instant update in the spot.
Like screenshots if your searching for a message (in the list of recent messages NOT within a single chat)
Make sure to use the second app for that
i found another way
i cloned Messenger v240 via LuckyPatcher to use it as Chat Heads
and installed Stock version via Playstore too for sending media via it
Coming back with an update and a perm fix.
This was not found by me so I can't take credit but I need to share the much more some way
New step by step guide:
Install messenger from play store
Go to appcloner.app and download the app cloner
After install open and click on messenger on the first screen then click dev options all the way down on the new screen, then go to Android version and type in 10
Confirm, let it clone and install and your set.
Delete play store copy and have fully functional chat heads on 11 no issues can restart phone and it's all working hope you all enjoy
I just couldn't deal with the bubbles
Smittyzz said:
Coming back with an update and a perm fix.
This was not found by me so I can't take credit but I need to share the much more some way
New step by step guide:
Install messenger from play store
Go to appcloner.app and download the app cloner
After install open and click on messenger on the first screen then click dev options all the way down on the new screen, then go to Android version and type in 10
Confirm, let it clone and install and your set.
Delete play store copy and have fully functional chat heads on 11 no issues can restart phone and it's all working hope you all enjoy
I just couldn't deal with the bubbles
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Doesn't work for me. App clones but it won't start
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Doesn't work for me. App clones but it won't start
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Wait it worked but i don't know if it's because i cloned the app but it worked on the non cloned messenger tho
Edit: it was just a fluke. Worked for less than a min then gone again
Joshgo said:
Wait it worked but i don't know if it's because i cloned the app but it worked on the non cloned messenger tho
Edit: it was just a fluke. Worked for less than a min then gone again
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I will do a screen record again, it for sure works. It clones the app and makes it think it's running on an Android 10 system. I'm about a week in no issues
Joshgo said:
Wait it worked but i don't know if it's because i cloned the app but it worked on the non cloned messenger tho
Edit: it was just a fluke. Worked for less than a min then gone again
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What worked for me with this issue was enabling skip native libraries in cloning options. Plus, I cleared all data of the play store messenger app before cloning. My cloned app didn't start before but with these changes it's working perfectly so far.
Has anyone tried this module?
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Is there an app like this im switching from my vibrant to hd7 is there an app like this?
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i'm trying Go Voice, but there's no functionality to listen to the message on the phone like there is with Android. i have my GVoice account set to send me a text msg when someone leaves me a message. limited yes, but works for me (for now).
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i'm trying Go Voice, but there's no functionality to listen to the message on the phone like there is with Android. i have my GVoice account set to send me a text msg when someone leaves me a message. limited yes, but works for me (for now).
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I had no problems listening to messages on the phone. When you open the transcribed message, click the play icon just above the transcribed text.
naplesbill said:
I had no problems listening to messages on the phone. When you open the transcribed message, click the play icon just above the transcribed text.
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yep... You're correct. Discovered this after playing around with options. Thanks for correcting my misstatement!
Try the GVoice app; I wrote it It has tile/toast push notifications too
1.0 is a bit rough, but I just submitted 1.1 to the market to clean up all the issues and add more features
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/12/gvoice-11-update.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrddo60usSM&feature=player_embedded
Koush said:
Try the GVoice app; I wrote it It has tile/toast push notifications too
1.0 is a bit rough, but I just submitted 1.1 to the market to clean up all the issues and add more features
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/12/gvoice-11-update.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrddo60usSM&feature=player_embedded
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1.1 is not available for me in the US Marketplace. Do you have any idea when it will be?
Koush said:
Try the GVoice app; I wrote it It has tile/toast push notifications too
1.0 is a bit rough, but I just submitted 1.1 to the market to clean up all the issues and add more features
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Koush, I have a question. Does your app support push notifications via WiFi only? For instance, I live in an area with no cell reception, and I'm forced to use wifi only. Will this app give me push notifications with just wifi on?
I'm using GoVoice and have been quite happy with it. Updates with feature improvements seem to be coming through on a regular basis. I just setup background notifications to the live tile and I am testing it out.
im surprised this is all the input on this thread
Well, Android phones by far have the best google voice app (obviously) I been using GoVoice and it seems to be working ok. Its a pain in the ass though, the fact that WIndows 7 cant multitask means that you have to start up GoVoice every single time it for me it just takes too long. The notifications are nice though, when you get a text message you'll see the notification at the top like you normally would with a regular text message.
randude said:
I'm using GoVoice and have been quite happy with it. Updates with feature improvements seem to be coming through on a regular basis. I just setup background notifications to the live tile and I am testing it out.
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how is it working out?
Did u have to set it up to recieve an email and/or sms for the live tile to update? My live tile for govoice wont update unless i open the program first
melcali said:
how is it working out?
Did u have to set it up to recieve an email and/or sms for the live tile to update? My live tile for govoice wont update unless i open the program first
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same issue here.
alright.
after digging around the developers website i found the right instructions for getting the push notifications and live tile to work.
sucks that it doesnt make the directions too clear on the app and elsewhere...
http://blog.taotaotech.com/setting-up-push-notifications/
so yea... even though you will have your gvoice set up to send u an email for new voicemails, the gvmax end will cancel those out so you wont receive those annoying emails...
live tile works for me now.
Is there a way to get voicemain notifications similar to other ones (like SMS)? Won't do it for me.
EDIT: NVM it works. Just didn't get one the first time.
Is there a way to get the update notification to go away? My GF's HD7 has the update number on the live tile, but when we update it, it keeps saying it needs to update.
which live tile is it for?
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which live tile is it for?
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The marketplace app never shows it update.
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are you referring to the number that appears next to the icon (to indicate number of updates)? if so, have you tried just restarting the phone. i think it's all related to the known bug with the market place at present which causes the market place to crash every now and then.
nah, restarts dont fix it. Still wants to update even though its been updated countless times.
robstunner said:
nah, restarts dont fix it. Still wants to update even though its been updated countless times.
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That's a known bug with the "trial" version of a lot of apps... Not sure if you're using a trial, or "free" version which can be downloaded as a trial
Hi,
I used to have facebook push notification on my Galaxy S.
However, since around 1.5 weeks back - I rarely get this notification.
Facebook notification refresh setting is already set to every 30 minutes (but why is this necessary? Since it should be a "pushed" notification, isn't it?)
I've done plenty of things on the phone in the past 2 weeks (one of them is factory wipe); so I can't put my finger on when is the last time the push notification work.
Anyone got any clue?
Actually i noticed i havent been getting notifications either.
On 2.2.1 JPY.
same for me!! weird!!
poundesville said:
Hi,
I used to have facebook push notification on my Galaxy S.
However, since around 1.5 weeks back - I rarely get this notification.
Facebook notification refresh setting is already set to every 30 minutes (but why is this necessary? Since it should be a "pushed" notification, isn't it?)
I've done plenty of things on the phone in the past 2 weeks (one of them is factory wipe); so I can't put my finger on when is the last time the push notification work.
Anyone got any clue?
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I don't think I've ever had the facility to have the notifcations pushed. It probably works out in your best interests as it will probably save you more battery life and data in the long run
splish2010 said:
I don't think I've ever had the facility to have the notifcations pushed. It probably works out in your best interests as it will probably save you more battery life and data in the long run
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I think the opposite actually.
If it's not "pushed", then the apps in your phone will try to connect at certain interval to check if there's latest records.
If my understand is correct, in the past, facebook application for android, works by using the 'refresh interval'. But in Dec, the "pushed notification" is added into this apps
resource: cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20025786-251.html
* sorry, I can't create a URL link in my post due to low post count
I used 2.2.1 and had pushed notification. My guess is that this happen only in Jan, and probably after I did the X'mas version Darky's ROM.
Do you guys think this pushed notification works based on your phone "product code" ? Flashing ROM is known to change your Product CODE.. (I think mine was changed to XOR, XEE, XSO before.. )
poundesville said:
I think the opposite actually.
If it's not "pushed", then the apps in your phone will try to connect at certain interval to check if there's latest records.
If my understand is correct, in the past, facebook application for android, works by using the 'refresh interval'. But in Dec, the "pushed notification" is added into this apps
resource: cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20025786-251.html
* sorry, I can't create a URL link in my post due to low post count
I used 2.2.1 and had pushed notification. My guess is that this happen only in Jan, and probably after I did the X'mas version Darky's ROM.
Do you guys think this pushed notification works based on your phone "product code" ? Flashing ROM is known to change your Product CODE.. (I think mine was changed to XOR, XEE, XSO before.. )
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Yeah the app itself has settings for regular updates but I hadn't noticed a push setting previously. Can only assume FB pulled it for some reason because the ROM's themselves don't really touch any third party .apks.
Guys..
I got "pushed' notification now; but only for messages so far.
This is what I did in facebook notification settings..
Untick all Notifications (e.g. messages, friend requests, event invites) and also untick the notifications. Also set the Refresh interval to - NEVER
get out from that notification setting page.
Get back in again and this time around, ticked all notifications back .. but keep the Refresh interval to NEVER.
Using push notificatiion, so don't need to ask the Facebook apps to "poll" the servers for latest data.
once again, i'm on 2.2.1 using Darky's ROM V8.0 with latest SpeedMod Kernel (dated 13th Jan 2011).
I wasn't getting any notifications pushed either and i read somewhere (can't remember where) that you can fix it by resetting the push notifications thing (i think its called c2dm).
One way of doing this is by going into Settings > Applications > Facebook > Clear Data
Then open up facebook, enter your details and it should work (it worked for me)
sounds like when I did change the notification setting, that have the some effect as clear the data and create a new one.
got the same prob also since last two weeks.. flash every rom from stock to custom.. from 2.1 to 2.2 based.. and finally on darky 8.1.. still push notification for facebook app not popping up anymore.. but it works fine before.. can someone identify what is the source of this problem?..
Same problem here. Any ideas?
I actually do not have this problem BUT.... I can´t hear any pop sound when someone sends me a message on FaceBook....
I have gone into settings and enabled sound and everything there but I never hear any sound when I get a message
Any way to fix that?... would be SUPER sweet
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Do you guys think this pushed notification works based on your phone "product code" ? Flashing ROM is known to change your Product CODE.. (I think mine was changed to XOR, XEE, XSO before.. )
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Push notifications work via push service which is dependent upon "Android ID", not product code, I know that because I had problems with Kik Messenger which works with push notifications. People at Kik explained that push service is connected with unique Android ID of your device and if it changes, you will probably have problems with notifications. Android ID changes if you, for example, flash custom ROM. I was lucky enough to create complete nandroid backup when I first bought the phone. Kik didn't work properly on Darky's (or any other custom rom) so what I did was: restored my original ROM, installed Android ID changer from market, wrote down my ID, flashed Darky's again, installed Android ID changer again and restored my original ID.
Now push service works like a charm
Hope it helps...
I suggest facebook sms notifications. It's true push (And you don't need data enabled!)
oswade said:
I suggest facebook sms notifications. It's true push (And you don't need data enabled!)
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is that a app or how is it enabled?
If it´s an App... please tell me the name
Delete Facebook from Advanced Task Killer App.
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SAEVARM3 said:
is that a app or how is it enabled?
If it´s an App... please tell me the name
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on facebook desktop website, in the top right corner click "account" > "Account settings" > "mobile" (a tab).
The sms contains the content of the notification (altho can be cut short if too long) and depending on the context, a url to the mobile website.
EDIT: oops, looks like iceland isn't on the dropdown list... (probably no carriers in your country support the function ) Many other countries do though :S
I use F plus (flow) now.
Might not be push, but at least I get them now, which is more than the facebook app did ever did.
Sent from my Captivate.
No matter what settings I use on facebook they always revert to default after not using the app for a while.
Any ideas?
anyone find a solution to this yet? sorry for bumping a old thread but it's driving me nuts not being able to check notifications on facebook!
I've noticed lately that any app I download that has a live tile crashes when I try to run it. Any other app runs fine. I was curious that this might be a result of the 15 push app limit. So, I went thru all my apps that have live tiles, removed them from my start screen, and unchecked "live tile," "push notification" or whatever option they had. This did not fix the problem, even after a reboot. If i re-pin one of the old apps and enable live tile, they work just fine.
I'm wondering this is just a glitch with my phone, or whether wp7 doesn't have the ability to release the "hold" that an app has on one of the 15 available channels. Is anyone having this same experience?
Did you ever find a resolution for this other than a hard rest? I am experiencing the same problem and have also tried disabling all my notification apps. Im debating weather I should wait till NoDo and see if it fixes the problem before I hard reset.
On another note, is there any way or do any of my games data get saved when hard resetting? I really dont want to loose that saved data.
Thanks.
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I'm wondering this is just a glitch with my phone, or whether wp7 doesn't have the ability to release the "hold" that an app has on one of the 15 available channels. Is anyone having this same experience?
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It's quite possible that the installed apps aren't handling the disabling of notifications correctly and clearing the channel. So if they've already registered a channel, they'll still count towards the 15.
Try uninstalling one of them, and check if that helps.
Incidentally, the apps shouldn't crash when they can't register a channel, they should catch the error and let you know. Let the developer know what's happening so they can fix it (don't do it via a review, try emailing them).
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It's quite possible that the installed apps aren't handling the disabling of notifications correctly and clearing the channel. So if they've already registered a channel, they'll still count towards the 15.
Try uninstalling one of them, and check if that helps.
Incidentally, the apps shouldn't crash when they can't register a channel, they should catch the error and let you know. Let the developer know what's happening so they can fix it (don't do it via a review, try emailing them).
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It definately seems like the apps are not releasing the channel properly. Is there any way to go into the registry and manually removed them? Also I have removed several of the apps that had Live Tilese enabled then disabled but I still cannot enable Live Tiles in new apps without receiving an error.
Edit: I went through and removed several other apps including one in which I was having issues on and off with live tiles. After uninstalling that app Live Tiles seems to be working on all my other apps. I'm not sure if the problem was the specific app or not but the issue appears to be cleared up. Thanks dgaust for the advise.
guys, i have 4 email live tile, HTC, Mo tweet, and i do not have any issues, i am using HD7.
It's not a problem with your phone, it's a problem in the app. The SDK launchs a exception when you are over 15. Write to the developper to fix this problem
lodz35 said:
It's not a problem with your phone, it's a problem in the app. The SDK launchs a exception when you are over 15. Write to the developper to fix this problem
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The problem I as having was that I wasnt over the 15 limit, I was at something closer to 5-10 but some of my previous apps apparently had not removed themselves from the list when I disabled them.
truffle1234 said:
guys, i have 4 email live tile, HTC, Mo tweet, and i do not have any issues, i am using HD7.
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Well none of the MS apps count towards the live tile limits. but even the you were no where near the 15 limit.
There's been a boatload of new apps this week and alot of them feature push and toast notifications the Facebook update and the Kik app. I haven't been able to get push working for either app. My push works perfectly every time for IM PLUS but nothing else. I went and turned push and toast notifications off for my older apps and still no push for fb and kik I even uninstalled and reinstalled both and still no push. Anybody else having these issues? Can we restart push notifications somehow? I'm considering restarting the whole phone
For u early mango users is there a way in settings to manage ur push and toast notifications instead of going into each app and turning them off/on? I hope they fix this in mango
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There's been a boatload of new apps this week and alot of them feature push and toast notifications the Facebook update and the Kik app. I haven't been able to get push working for either app. My push works perfectly every time for IM PLUS but nothing else. I went and turned push and toast notifications off for my older apps and still no push for fb and kik I even uninstalled and reinstalled both and still no push. Anybody else having these issues? Can we restart push notifications somehow? I'm considering restarting the whole phone
For u early mango users is there a way in settings to manage ur push and toast notifications instead of going into each app and turning them off/on? I hope they fix this in mango
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If your device is developer unlocked so you can deploy a registry editor (or own an LG device which has the editor built in), you can follow the steps described here to get notifications back working. I did it several times and it works for sure.
Now that I applied the mango pre-release there doesn't seem to be the need for tweaking anymore. All my apps recieve and show notifications just fine.
Remember there's a limit to the number of apps that can be "live" at once which I think is 15 at the moment. If you've reached that limit then you need to turn PN off in some apps. The limit is raised to 30 in Mango.
Peew971 said:
Remember there's a limit to the number of apps that can be "live" at once which I think is 15 at the moment. If you've reached that limit then you need to turn PN off in some apps. The limit is raised to 30 in Mango.
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I have never been able to receive push properly, hour long delays, no deliveries...
mango changes it all. I can tell you push has been working without noticable delay for almost a day now. It seems really stable both on and off WiFi. Seems like they got it right
Everytime I hard reset everything works fine for 2-3 weeks but then dies later. Give it a solid month to see if it's really fixed
I really don't want to hard reset. If u hard reset are ur contacts backed up in your live account? And do you have to redownload the apps u had before or can u just sync with Zune to get ur apps back?
I'm glad to hear mango seems to have push fixed this is frustrating how it seems everybody in all the video reviews of apps and forums seem to have push working or atleast the majority of people
It's because reviewers probably reset often but also are in the US where the issue is rare.
Everytime I reset my contacts are synched with my live account but that's part of my settings. Most apps downloaded from the Zune software come back but the missing ones and those downloaded from the phone must be reinstalled manually. Can't wait for Mango as this is a pain.
Oh, if you have games you'll lose your saves.
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Everytime I hard reset everything works fine for 2-3 weeks but then dies later. Give it a solid month to see if it's really fixed
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mine always broke within an hour. So yeah this is a major improvement so far.
with NoDo -rarely- uninstalling and reinstalling an app _multiple times_ solved the problem. At least that's what some users told me
andycted said:
with NoDo -rarely- uninstalling and reinstalling an app _multiple times_ solved the problem. At least that's what some users told me
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well I can tell you that's not true.
they had to recode the push system for Mango because the European carriers handle the data connections differently.
It's still not perfect btw. I have an occasional push not coming trough.
hopefully these links can be ironed out for the final release. I'll keep testing and see id it will remain working.
Marvin_S said:
well I can tell you that's not true.
they had to recode the push system for Mango because the European carriers handle the data connections differently.
It's still not perfect btw. I have an occasional push not coming trough.
hopefully these links can be ironed out for the final release. I'll keep testing and see id it will remain working.
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We are talking about different issues. Microsoft acknowledged problems with their phone internal push database (and registry) where applications remained there even after uninstalled. This created a problem of:
- reaching 15 limit
- same app reinstalled got a different channel id which wasn't written in the registry
What you're speaking of is just the fact that some european networks close the connections much more aggressively than in the US AND that they didn't take into consideration too much the fact that you can be on wifi behind mountains of proxies and routers. In the end they tried to save battery, which is not bad, but in some instances made the live tile connection unreliable.
Seeing the "similar threads we found", I see that I'm not the only one having this issue and we're not the only phone having problems.
Turns out there's a known issue on Google Voice where if the customer adds a line, subtracts a line or screws with their service in any way that requires an activation of the line that's on Google Voice (like an upgrade...yknow like we all did ), that Google Voice can fizzle out. Basically, it automatically unchecks the box that says "this phone can receive texts" which prevents your phone from receiving texts. This also changes the setting on the phone app to route texts through your stock messages app again. This will step-by-step you into changing them back.
Well I got mine working again, and I'd like to share how I did it so maybe it'll work for you.
**NOTICE**
This is for one line on Google Voice only. Apparently this won't work if you have multiple phones attached to the same Google account.
Okay:
1. open up your web browser and go to: voice.google.com. Then open up google voice on your phone.
2. in the browser, click your phone number (top right corner). A menu will pop up and you'll notice the "this phone receives text messages" (or however it's written) is unchecked. That's the bug, it'll uncheck itself every time you go to that screen. Also, when this box becomes unchecked, it actually changes a setting in the Google Voice app on your phone to route texts through the stock messaging app again (annoying).
3. Check that box so that it's one (don't close out of the browser yet, leave it on that screen)
4. Then, in your google voice app on the phone, go to menu > more > settings > notifications and sync where there's a drop down menu specifying whether you want messages received by the messages app or GVoice. choose which one you want (i'm assuming if you're here, you use GVoice). This is the setting I mentioned that it changes in the app (all the way back in step 2).
5. Now you should still have GVoice open in your browser. If not, you follow directions badly and need to repeat the process. If yes, you should have the unchecked box checked (when it wasn't before) and the setting on the phone app itself changed back to normal.
6. While the browser is open, have a few people text you. You should now be getting texts and voicemails delivered to your GVoice account again. This isn't necessary, but to test to make sure you did it right.
Last: once you re-establish that "connection" close the browser and never go back to that options page again (it'll just un-check that box and change that setting on the phone and make you do this all over again). Now your GVoice should be working properly.
*addendum*
If you're still have trouble after this. Go back to the options page where you started, check the box, then uninstall/re-install Gvoice on your phone and go through the set up again...then continue following the steps.
*addendum 2*
If this fails, then disable GVoice services with Sprint and set them up anew using the app on your phone (like you did the first time).
Don't worry about the "can't do whatever", just hit "skip".
Then follow the steps above.
Hope this helps, I know us GVoice users are minority but hey we need people to figure crap out too
AbsolutZeroGI said:
Seeing the "similar threads we found", I see that I'm not the only one having this issue and we're not the only phone having problems.
Turns out there's a known issue on Google Voice where if the customer adds a line, subtracts a line or screws with their service in any way that requires an activation of the line that's on Google Voice (like an upgrade...yknow like we all did ), that Google Voice can fizzle out. Basically, it automatically unchecks the box that says "this phone can receive texts" which prevents your phone from receiving texts. This also changes the setting on the phone app to route texts through your stock messages app again. This will step-by-step you into changing them back.
Well I got mine working again, and I'd like to share how I did it so maybe it'll work for you.
Okay:
1. open up your web browser and go to: voice.google.com. Then open up google voice on your phone.
2. in the browser, click your phone number (top right corner). A menu will pop up and you'll notice the "this phone receives text messages" (or however it's written) is unchecked. That's the bug, it'll uncheck itself every time you go to that screen. Also, when this box becomes unchecked, it actually changes a setting in the Google Voice app on your phone to route texts through the stock messaging app again (annoying).
3. Check that box so that it's one (don't close out of the browser yet, leave it on that screen)
4. Then, in your google voice app on the phone, go to menu > more > settings > notifications and sync where there's a drop down menu specifying whether you want messages received by the messages app or GVoice. choose which one you want (i'm assuming if you're here, you use GVoice). This is the setting I mentioned that it changes in the app (all the way back in step 2).
5. Now you should still have GVoice open in your browser. If not, you follow directions badly and need to repeat the process. If yes, you should have the unchecked box checked (when it wasn't before) and the setting on the phone app itself changed back to normal.
6. While the browser is open, have a few people text you. You should now be getting texts and voicemails delivered to your GVoice account again. This isn't necessary, but to test to make sure you did it right.
Last: once you re-establish that "connection" close the browser and never go back to that options page again (it'll just un-check that box and change that setting on the phone and make you do this all over again). Now your GVoice should be working properly.
*addendum*
If you're still have trouble after this. Go back to the options page where you started, check the box, then uninstall/re-install Gvoice on your phone and go through the set up again...then continue following the steps.
*addendum 2*
If this fails, then disable GVoice services with Sprint and set them up anew using the app on your phone (like you did the first time).
Don't worry about the "can't do whatever", just hit "skip".
Then follow the steps above.
Hope this helps, I know us GVoice users are minority but hey we need people to figure crap out too
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I have tried these steps and nothing works..If i change the setting in the app to use the google voice app for receiving text it automatically un checks the box online in the google voice settings. When I recheck the box online the app reverts back to using the stock app for messaging in the goggle voice app. quite pissed off about it but i'm still receiving calls from my google voice number so I guess I will live with it until its figured out.
alnova1 said:
I have tried these steps and nothing works..If i change the setting in the app to use the google voice app for receiving text it automatically un checks the box online in the google voice settings. When I recheck the box online the app reverts back to using the stock app for messaging in the goggle voice app. quite pissed off about it but i'm still receiving calls from my google voice number so I guess I will live with it until its figured out.
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here's the essential part:
Check the box, but leave the browser window open so you can see it.
save the setting for using GVoice but leave the settings open so you can see it.
Then open a new browser window and text someone using the browser interface in a separate tab. I use Google Chrome and have the GVoice extension so I didn't need to do that.
The idea to get texts moving back and forth while both are checked without leaving so they can't uncheck (which they won't do if you stay in the windows).
Once you get the flow of traffic going, then leave those settings windows and never, ever go back to them. It's a cheap fix and a house of cards of sorts (i've accidentally undone my own work twice), but it does work.
Ok..this is what I discovered for me. I have an Evo3D flashed to boost and I have the same google voice number going to it as I do the touch. I was looking at my settings online and suddenly the box for receiving text to the 3D was unchecked so I rechecked it. Well when I did that my messages started going through the stock messaging app on the 3D . So I decided to uncheck both my Touch and my 3d in the settings online to receive text and now I'm getting my text back through the google app. This makes no sense but its working right now.
alnova1 said:
Ok..this is what I discovered for me. I have an Evo3D flashed to boost and I have the same google voice number going to it as I do the touch. I was looking at my settings online and suddenly the box for receiving text to the 3D was unchecked so I rechecked it. Well when I did that my messages started going through the stock messaging app on the 3D . So I decided to uncheck both my Touch and my 3d in the settings online to receive text and now I'm getting my text back through the google app. This makes no sense but its working right now.
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Tell me about it dude, I spent 4 hours finding my method last night and an extra hour today screwing around. I have the worst headache right now lol.
I didn't know you had two lines on GVoice, I have no clue how that works lol. Hopefully your tinkering helps others.
AbsolutZeroGI said:
Tell me about it dude, I spent 4 hours finding my method last night and an extra hour today screwing around. I have the worst headache right now lol.
I didn't know you had two lines on GVoice, I have no clue how that works lol. Hopefully your tinkering helps others.
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They will both ring at the same time and its pretty good. I don't know whats going on but I don't see how I can be receiving text messages with it unchecked on the setting part on the web...oh well!
alnova1 said:
They will both ring at the same time and its pretty good. I don't know whats going on but I don't see how I can be receiving text messages with it unchecked on the setting part on the web...oh well!
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yeah, it is a known issue and Google is working on it (at least according to their forums). it started with the newest Google Voice updates for honeycomb.
I actually got the E4T to lag last night using Google Voice..I felt it was brag worthy
AbsolutZeroGI said:
yeah, it is a known issue and Google is working on it (at least according to their forums). it started with the newest Google Voice updates for honeycomb.
I actually got the E4T to lag last night using Google Voice..I felt it was brag worthy
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That is brag worthy..lol. Well i'm glad to hear there working on it because I ported my number to google when they first started offering that option so I could have any phone and it would show up my work number...and thats why I need it to work because its my work number! lol
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That is brag worthy..lol. Well i'm glad to hear there working on it because I ported my number to google when they first started offering that option so I could have any phone and it would show up my work number...and thats why I need it to work because its my work number! lol
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I suspect it'll be fixed in the next update or two.
If you didn't mind going through the WHOLE set up process again, you could find and download an older apk and just go back to a bug-free version. I have a transparent themed one and an inverted one from before the latest update and they worked fine before I updated it (ever since, they are screwed up).
AbsolutZeroGI said:
I suspect it'll be fixed in the next update or two.
If you didn't mind going through the WHOLE set up process again, you could find and download an older apk and just go back to a bug-free version. I have a transparent themed one and an inverted one from before the latest update and they worked fine before I updated it (ever since, they are screwed up).
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I guess since I have it working for the moment I will leave it alone but thats an idea though.
alnova1 said:
I guess since I have it working for the moment I will leave it alone but thats an idea though.
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You can find the themed ones in the apps/themes section of the OG epic 4g. search forum: Google Voice and you'll find it.
AbsolutZeroGI said:
You can find the themed ones in the apps/themes section of the OG epic 4g. search forum: Google Voice and you'll find it.
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Thank you sir...