Cases Effect Carrier Data Results on S21 #GalaxyS21CaseGate - Samsung Galaxy S21 Accessories

FYI if you're having less than expected Carrier Data performance, try taking off your case.
My wife and I both have the same base S21's on the same shared Data plan but with different cases. Our Speed Tests are dramatically different.
She is using the Samsung Silicone case and gets 100mbit down / 23mbit up.
i'm using the Samsung clear case and getting 24mbit down and 7mbit up.
Upon taking off my case I was getting the same performance as she was.
Curious to see if other variants of the S21 (plus and ultra) exhibit the same issue.
I hope a future Samsung software update may be able to help us with this issue.

Good question
It may depend on the individual case, if it is thick or thin and its material/what it is made of.
Most cases should be made so that it does not decrease the reception/connectivity significantly ... hopefully

S view case, no difference in speed. Try hers in your case

I did a speed test yesterday with no case, and just now with my new Otterbox defender. Yesterday I got 147 and 4.71 on 5G and 122 and 5.94 on wifi. Today I got 80.8 and 0.80 on LTE (which is odd, since the status bar said 5G while I was running the test) and 98.9 and 5.04 on wifi. If it wasn't such a pain to take the case off, I'd do that and try again .
More results: With the Otterbox defender case on the phone the speedtest app never says 5G, it always says LTE. Without the case, I consistently am able to do 5G tests (though the speed is really variable, but that's probably T-mobile). With my new VANMASS case, results are the same with and without the case. With both cases, wifi results are essentially the same. So Otterbox seems to hate 5G.

One thing to keep in mind is the orientation of the phone, the receivers are directional for the most part. Could you have held a phone elsewhere and done the test with case on. Then after you realized the discrepancy, you probably placed both the phones in the same orientation on a table for example, and then done the caseless tests together.

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Will tough case from case mate make reception worse?

Technically does putting any case on work against reception? Reason I ask is because I am with a new company here in Canada called Wind mobil and they are still putting towers up so signal strength isint that great to begin with I just dont want to make it worse.
ludeboye said:
Technically does putting any case on work against reception? Reason I ask is because I am with a new company here in Canada called Wind mobil and they are still putting towers up so signal strength isint that great to begin with I just dont want to make it worse.
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i have it on mine and seen no problem's .so you should be good to go !
lucky 69 said:
i have it on mine and seen no problem's .so you should be good to go !
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how much bulk does it add? just enough?
and is it a very nice fit?
adds 1.5x the thickness, just bulky enough so it doesnt slip out of my hand
my only complain is the power button is bit hard to locate with the case; but overall im pretty happy with it
I know aluminum cases can affect signal strength but rubber and plastic, I dont think so. I have the tough case and I found that the vibrant gets really warm inside of the case. My phone was randomly resetting itself and the touch screen was not resonding to my touches. So i took the case off the phone and Voila, the phone acts normal again. So to all the tough case owners out there, if your phone is acting up, try taking the case off and see if it returns to normal. And just for clarification, I work in a 70 degree enviornment so it has not spent any time anywhere where there is excessive heat. My assumption based on this whole episode is that the vibrant, which is a very warm phone to begin with doesnt have any way to dissipate heat inside of the tough case.
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I know aluminum cases can affect signal strength but rubber and plastic, I dont think so. I have the tough case and I found that the vibrant gets really warm inside of the case. My phone was randomly resetting itself and the touch screen was not resonding to my touches. So i took the case off the phone and Voila, the phone acts normal again. So to all the tough case owners out there, if your phone is acting up, try taking the case off and see if it returns to normal. And just for clarification, I work in a 70 degree enviornment so it has not spent any time anywhere where there is excessive heat. My assumption based on this whole episode is that the vibrant, which is a very warm phone to begin with doesnt have any way to dissipate heat inside of the tough case.
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hmm... not my case... although the phone does get quite hot from extensive game playing from time to time while in the case (i blame the rubber thing in the tough case), but never experience random reset or screen not responding
Wykedx said:
how much bulk does it add? just enough?
and is it a very nice fit?
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ya it don't add much bulkyness at all !the case look's thicker in the picture's than it is! i was surprised my self !yes it is just enough phone feel's better to me with the case.i did like how thin the phone is but this case help's me have a better hold of it .as for the fit .you can't go wrong very well made and fit is perfect .i was a little hasty when i seen the price but know it is well worth the cash for it !well hope this helps ya
I live in Florida an have left my phone on my dash on very hot days with the tough case. SetCPU has shown over 135° temps and my phone hasnt rebooted one time.
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I know aluminum cases can affect signal strength but rubber and plastic, I dont think so. I have the tough case and I found that the vibrant gets really warm inside of the case. My phone was randomly resetting itself and the touch screen was not resonding to my touches. So i took the case off the phone and Voila, the phone acts normal again. So to all the tough case owners out there, if your phone is acting up, try taking the case off and see if it returns to normal. And just for clarification, I work in a 70 degree enviornment so it has not spent any time anywhere where there is excessive heat. My assumption based on this whole episode is that the vibrant, which is a very warm phone to begin with doesnt have any way to dissipate heat inside of the tough case.
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Sent from my vibrant using tapatalk.
Well the point of my post is only for people who are experiencing the same problems that i had (which hasnt happened again). If your phone isnt experiencing these sort of problems then this post wasnt for you. So for people to comment on the fact that their phones work perfectly are missing the point of the post. That is unless they just like hearing themselves speak lol.
Does putting a case on make the phone work harder to get reception on a technical level that is? Like I said my carrier is new to the country and has some dead spots and is working to put more towers in (windmobile) thats why my major concern is reception (battery drain).
The point of the post that has no relevance to the op? The case mate cases have their own thread going in this same section.
By the way, my signal is no different than before I put the case on.
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ludeboye said:
Does putting a case on make the phone work harder to get reception on a technical level that is? Like I said my carrier is new to the country and has some dead spots and is working to put more towers in (windmobile) thats why my major concern is reception (battery drain).
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imo no,it won't make the phone work harder at all.your battery life will not change at all just by putting this case on or any case on it .your phone will get the same reception as it does now .so go get it you won't be sorry. if you get lost reception it will be from the your service provider not the phone/case. well let us know if ya get one .
Thanks I ordered one

[Q] New aluminum case.. reception issues?

Hey guys... new member and user here. Just got my first smartphone, Samsung Focus, last thursday. I've got a few other questions but I'll get to the most important ones first.
I just received my new case.. a Monaco aluminum case. I did a lot of research and although there is very little info on this one, it definitely appears to be the most well designed. In the youtube review of it, they noted how the developer specifically cut ports in the case to allow for signal strength to be unaffected.
I just got the case and was thrilled with the fit and everything. but then for the first time since having the phone i'm having messages not sending. however it still says i have good signal reception. i then took the case off and had mixed results. put the case back on and had no issues for a bit.. now i'm having issues again. i have had random bursts of good and bad reception in my room where I am.
So is there possibly an app that tests exact reception strength or something? I'd really like a direct comparison with and without the case. By just looking at my bars up top, they don't seem to be affected with and without the case.
Anyone? Surely there must be a way to determine actual signal strength aside from just the bars up top, no?
If you have a metal case which more or less surrounds your aerial, then you basically have a Faraday Cage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
...which will significantly reduce the signal received by the phone. Especially if you are holding it and are well grounded. If you're wearing thick rubber-soled boots, that's a bad ground. If you're barefoot, that's a good one.
Basically a metal case isn't a very good idea for a mobile phone.
Try this:
Dial ##634#
Tap call
You will now be in the diagnosis app
Now type *#32489#
Press the on-screen back button three (3) times
Tap 9 (it will say Antenna/ADC)
The Antenna signal strength number is displayed in -mD. lower numbers indicate better signal stregth (so -60 is a better signal than -100)
Hope this helps!
Sent from my {Samsung Focus} using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Oscardog777 said:
Try this:
Dial ##634#
Tap call
You will now be in the diagnosis app
Now type *#32489#
Press the on-screen back button three (3) times
Tap 9 (it will say Antenna/ADC)
The Antenna signal strength number is displayed in -mD. lower numbers indicate better signal stregth (so -60 is a better signal than -100)
Hope this helps!
Sent from my {Samsung Focus} using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Hell yes! I knew this forum looked useful. How in God's name do you find that diagnostic menu? AT&T or windows function?
Anyway, I wish I had a second eye with me so I can take down all the numbers and run a hypothesis test on the sets of data.
However, just by observations over about 2 minute periods, I see no discernible difference between case and no case. Without the case, the db level seemed to average around 94-95 with a standard deviation of about 10.
If anything, the case seemed to improve reception, though I doubt there's any real truth to it. The reception seemed to average exactly the same as without the case, except I experienced less stray values jumping up in the 100's as I noticed without the case. Overall, I'd probably just list those values as outliers as I would probably just contribute them to the incoming signal itself.
I'll try testing again in another location.. however, as of right now, it appears the myth is busted that this case has any impact on signal strength.
Thanks so much for the help!
How in God's name do you find that diagnostic menu? AT&T or windows function?
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Thats what these bad-asses do around here. LOL
cgibsong002 said:
Hell yes! I knew this forum looked useful. How in God's name do you find that diagnostic menu? AT&T or windows function?
Anyway, I wish I had a second eye with me so I can take down all the numbers and run a hypothesis test on the sets of data.
However, just by observations over about 2 minute periods, I see no discernible difference between case and no case. Without the case, the db level seemed to average around 94-95 with a standard deviation of about 10.
If anything, the case seemed to improve reception, though I doubt there's any real truth to it. The reception seemed to average exactly the same as without the case, except I experienced less stray values jumping up in the 100's as I noticed without the case. Overall, I'd probably just list those values as outliers as I would probably just contribute them to the incoming signal itself.
I'll try testing again in another location.. however, as of right now, it appears the myth is busted that this case has any impact on signal strength.
Thanks so much for the help!
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Welcome! Keep in mind that signal strength is affected by many variables such as location, how you hold the phone, time of day, how far away you are from the tower serving your phone, even the weather.
Oscardog777 said:
Welcome! Keep in mind that signal strength is affected by many variables such as location, how you hold the phone, time of day, how far away you are from the tower serving your phone, even the weather.
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Yes.. of course. But my goal was to figure out whether or not my awesome new case was hindering signal strength. I tested it with and without the case while in the exact same resting position, as well as the same position with my holding the phone. I also did it multiple times to try to factor in periodic surges in signal strength.
Definitely makes no difference... possibly even better with the case.
And, by the way, does anyone else have this case? I'd have to say it's definitely the top case out there for the Samsung Focus. It offers much better protection than any others (open screen cases that is), while providing great access to all side buttons, and not looking nearly as ugly as most of them (Case Mate!).
Only two grips.
1. Why hinged? Why not just snap on like all the others? The hinge and clip barely add any bulk, but still they are not necessary.
2. Could use just a bit more screen room on the sides and top of the screen. maybe a few mm on the sides and a centimeter or so up top. But I'll gladly take that for the protection this thing provides.

Incipio Silicrylic Shine slowing my WiFi speeds?

I bought the Incipio Silicrylic brushed steel looking case from At&t (http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/cases/sku6580523.html#fbid=gA-tqMAMKB6) the day I got my phone and I've had nothing but problems with WiFi. My WiFi speeds have been slow and it keeps disconnecting, I've never had this issue and WiFi works just fine on all my other devices.
I initially thought something was wrong with the HTC One and had decided to exchange it for a Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5, but after messing with my router all day long with no improvement, I took the case off as a last ditch effort and my speeds tripled. Tomorrow I will be returning the case and getting one of the simple tpu cases that Sprint sells.
Just wondering has anyone else had WiFi issues due to a case, or for any other reason?
reckoner13 said:
I bought the Incipio Silicrylic brushed steel looking case from At&t (http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/cases/sku6580523.html#fbid=gA-tqMAMKB6) the day I got my phone and I've had nothing but problems with WiFi. My WiFi speeds have been slow and it keeps disconnecting, I've never had this issue and WiFi works just fine on all my other devices.
I initially thought something was wrong with the HTC One and had decided to exchange it for a Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5, but after messing with my router all day long with no improvement, I took the case off as a last ditch effort and my speeds tripled. Tomorrow I will be returning the case and getting one of the simple tpu cases that Sprint sells.
Just wondering has anyone else had WiFi issues due to a case, or for any other reason?
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I have read several reviews of certain Incipio cases made for other devices affecting wifi and/or cell reception. I forget the exact model but it was one of the cases that had aluminum or some metal-like coating. In the cases's description, Incipio says that it will not affect wifi/cell reception but seems that may not be such an accurate statement.
Marty said:
I have read several reviews of certain Incipio cases made for other devices affecting wifi and/or cell reception. I forget the exact model but it was one of the cases that had aluminum or some metal-like coating. In the cases's description, Incipio says that it will not affect wifi/cell reception but seems that may not be such an accurate statement.
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The case is just plastic. I have that case on my phone now.
I was actually disappointed when I opened it. I was hoping for a metal case.
My wifi speeds are smoking, here are my speed test results
Test Date: Apr 29, 2013 9:46:56 am
Connection Type: Wifi
Server: Sugar Hill, GA
Download: 123764 kbps
Upload: 653595 kbps
Ping: 27 ms
External IP: 15.195.210.16
Internal IP: 10.55.175.181, 10.61.7.176
Latitude: 34.08622
Longitude: -84.26837
A detailed image for this result can be found here:
http://www.speedtest.net/android/438237158.png
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I hope this isn't the "case" when I get mine! I ordered it last week because it is exactly what I'm looking for with the two piece design.
Sent from my HTC One

Devilcase Aluminium Bumper - pics and thoughts

I recently received my black Devilcase aluminium bumper case today in the mail off Amazon and took some pictures. I haven't had it nearly long enough to comment on its performance, but I'd say so far that it's pretty damn good. I've taken pictures of the bumper on my black HTC One and my friend's silver One as well.
Below is the packaging. Came with the bumpers screwed together with two screws, a small screwdriver and a spare screw. The spare screw was a nice thought as I almost immediately lost one of the screws on my carpeted floor. The bumpers are definitely not going to fall apart, though since it covers the SIM slot, if you're ever out and you need to get the SIM out, you're out of luck unless you plan on carrying very small screwdrivers and a paperclip to eject the SIM slot.
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Bumpers: Both bumpers are lined with a soft rubbery material. The volume rocker cover is actually quite nice and I think it makes it easier to adjust the volume with the bumpers than when the phone was naked since the rocker is raised. There is a gap between the power button and headphone jack since the back is rounded, which I've included below.
After installation: The bumpers are slightly higher on the corners, which I feel improves your grip on the One. My black One also has a fullbody Skinomi protector, though I cut off the sides on the back protector
Volume rocker:
On the silver One:
Gap: There is a gap on the power button and headphone jack since the One has a curved back. Not a big deal at all since the bumpers have to be straight. Is also a good indicator of how much space is placed between the phone and the edge of the bumper if you were to place it flat against a surface.
As for the back of the phone... I would recommend a protector on the back. The bumper raises the phone slightly off a table surface, but if you were to slide the phone around or if there was any dirt or grit on the table, I'm not the bumper would keep the phone away from that... I suppose it's a personal choice, but I like the extra peace of mind. In regards to the front of the phone, you can clearly see the bumper around it, but again, I would recommend a screen protector. I found Skinomi's full body protector to be affordable ($15 on amazon) and easy to install (would also recommend cutting off the edges on the back that are supposed to fold over onto the sides with scissors or x-acto knife and ruler before installing... the edges really don't stick very well and you won't need them if you're using the Devilcase).
The gaps on the power button and headphone jack don't bother me and I think it even helps me find the power button since it's so flat. I forgot to include a picture, but there is a hole for the microphone, so the bumper does not cover it.
In conclusion, I'm so far very satisfied with the Devilcase. I think it's a great case and would go very well with a back and front screen protector. To be fair, I have no idea how well it'd hold up compared to a beast of a case like an OtterBox, but I believe the OtterBox is probably considerably larger (and not as good-looking) as the Devilcase and I think that's just comparing apples and oranges... both are different types of cases and fulfill different needs. For myself, I'm just looking for a case that won't substantially increase the size of the One and can still over some to good protection against minor drops and scratches and slim cases like the Nillkin are what I usually gravitate to, but the Nillkin does not cover ALL sides of the One, such as the top, bottom and volume rocker, and dirt can get in-between the case and phone. Personally, I think the Devilcase is sturdy, great looking, improves my grip on the phone as well as the buttons, so I'd call this a keeper
Did you have a chance to test the signal? Can you let us know where you live? Big city or small town?
Thanks for the great detail review. It's very useful. I'm gonna get one :good:
pacion said:
Did you have a chance to test the signal? Can you let us know where you live? Big city or small town?
Thanks for the great detail review. It's very useful. I'm gonna get one :good:
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I haven't done a signal test like checking the signal strength before and after the bumper, but I'm honestly not worried about it. A bumper like this would not affect the signal given how HTC designed the One. I have used the phone while out and can say that I did not experience any signal loss where I should have had service.
cassull said:
I haven't done a signal test like checking the signal strength before and after the bumper, but I'm honestly not worried about it. A bumper like this would not affect the signal given how HTC designed the One. I have used the phone while out and can say that I did not experience any signal loss where I should have had service.
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I just got the case in silver and the case is effecting my signal for LTE. I'm on AT&T and in my house i get 2-3 bars of LTE, the second I put on the case I lose LTE completely. When i take off the case the LTE comes back on. I still do get 3-4 bars of HSPA with the case on so it looks like its just effecting the LTE for AT&T though
cassull said:
I haven't done a signal test like checking the signal strength before and after the bumper, but I'm honestly not worried about it. A bumper like this would not affect the signal given how HTC designed the One. I have used the phone while out and can say that I did not experience any signal loss where I should have had service.
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Any/all aluminum case/bumper will affect signal unless it is designed like ElementCase's with plastic inserts to disrupt it. It creates almost a mini field, which disrupts signal.
From a screenshot I saw before, the devilcase doesn't seem like it's the worst, although like above, it can become very noticeable if signal isn't the strongest already. 2-3 bars LTE going to 0 LTE is a pretty big deal
pewpewbangbang said:
Any/all aluminum case/bumper will affect signal unless it is designed like ElementCase's with plastic inserts to disrupt it. It creates almost a mini field, which disrupts signal.
From a screenshot I saw before, the devilcase doesn't seem like it's the worst, although like above, it can become very noticeable if signal isn't the strongest already. 2-3 bars LTE going to 0 LTE is a pretty big deal
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I suppose, but the antenna is also on the back of the phone as well. If it does affect signal, I doubt it would affect it very dramatically. I can't comment on personal anecdotes of other members, though, unless you checked the signal in the same exact spot and put the bumper on and off several times... it should be repeatable. But again, these are just my views.
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I suppose, but the antenna is also on the back of the phone as well. If it does affect signal, I doubt it would affect it very dramatically. I can't comment on personal anecdotes of other members, though, unless you checked the signal in the same exact spot and put the bumper on and off several times... it should be repeatable. But again, these are just my views.
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Yea, but the aluminum bumper will create basically a force field and if you know about force fields, it's essentially how should I say like in the shape of a sphere around the device.
The One design works in general because all the injected plastic keeps the aluminum body from touching each other and creating this field. The antennas are housed in it so there's no issues. Just like how the iPhone's since the 4 have had the antenna bands completely disconnecting the aluminum band around the phone. But if you connect these bands creating the antennagate problem you get the signal problems, which is like putting an all aluminum bumper around your phone (It just might not be as bad in this case)
All in all though, everyones experience will differ since no one will have the same scenario. Signal degradation will be far more noticeable to certain people, while barely noticeable to others. It's a toss up, but in general if signal in your area already isn't that great like around 3 bars. An aluminum bumper like this will make a bigger difference.
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I suppose, but the antenna is also on the back of the phone as well. If it does affect signal, I doubt it would affect it very dramatically. I can't comment on personal anecdotes of other members, though, unless you checked the signal in the same exact spot and put the bumper on and off several times... it should be repeatable. But again, these are just my views.
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It seems like with the bumper on it is only effecting the LTE. I really wanted to keep the case so I tested it over 10 times in my home office. I basically sat in the same spot, had the phone naked and I would have 2 bars of LTE, once I put the case on, within 30 sec to a minute, the LTE would disappear and I would have 3 bars of HSPA. The signal works fine and I have no problem making phone calls and stuff but since I do a lot of web browsing and use the tethering option, the loss of LTE with the case is a big deal for me. For someone that doesn't need the LTE, i wouldn't imagine this would be a problem. once again, this is only for AT&T.
If anyone else has AT&T and has the case, can they tell me if they have the problem also?
Thanks.
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It seems like with the bumper on it is only effecting the LTE. I really wanted to keep the case so I tested it over 10 times in my home office. I basically sat in the same spot, had the phone naked and I would have 2 bars of LTE, once I put the case on, within 30 sec to a minute, the LTE would disappear and I would have 3 bars of HSPA. The signal works fine and I have no problem making phone calls and stuff but since I do a lot of web browsing and use the tethering option, the loss of LTE with the case is a big deal for me. For someone that doesn't need the LTE, i wouldn't imagine this would be a problem. once again, this is only for AT&T.
If anyone else has AT&T and has the case, can they tell me if they have the problem also?
Thanks.
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It's just because signal isn't the strongest in your area. It's affecting all signal, not just LTE. LTE just isn't as strong of a signal compared to HSPA etc...It's like going from HSPA to EDGE when your signal gets weak. Anyone else with a similar situation will experience the same problem. This is not a new issue, aluminum bumpers started with the iPhone 4 (I assume since that's the first I played around with them and saw them more widespread on the internet). The kinks have been ironed out though with ElementCase at least though. I'm surprised no other brand has really followed in it's design choice to really fix the signal degradation problem.
miamibest said:
It seems like with the bumper on it is only effecting the LTE. I really wanted to keep the case so I tested it over 10 times in my home office. I basically sat in the same spot, had the phone naked and I would have 2 bars of LTE, once I put the case on, within 30 sec to a minute, the LTE would disappear and I would have 3 bars of HSPA. The signal works fine and I have no problem making phone calls and stuff but since I do a lot of web browsing and use the tethering option, the loss of LTE with the case is a big deal for me. For someone that doesn't need the LTE, i wouldn't imagine this would be a problem. once again, this is only for AT&T.
If anyone else has AT&T and has the case, can they tell me if they have the problem also?
Thanks.
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I'm on AT&T, but through Straight Talk, so I don't get 4G or LTE. I did check signal strength before and after the bumper install, but there was virtually little to not change, so I'm afraid I couldn't say why you're losing LTE signal.
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I took a video so you guys can see what I am talking about but I wasn't able to upload it since i don't have 10 posts I can't post the link to youtube. If anyone wants to help me out upload the video or tell me how I can attach a link or do the youtube on here I can show you guys what i'm talking about.
On the video you can see it go from 2 bars on 4G LTE then when I put on the case it completely drops LTE and goes to 1 bar on HSPA. I'm not knocking the case in anyway. I would love to keep the case but there is definitely a interference for me on this case. Everyone though will be different but I thought I would share my experience (once again this is ONLY on AT&T).
Thanks
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I took a video so you guys can see what I am talking about but I wasn't able to upload it since i don't have 10 posts I can't post the link to youtube. If anyone wants to help me out upload the video or tell me how I can attach a link or do the youtube on here I can show you guys what i'm talking about.
On the video you can see it go from 2 bars on 4G LTE then when I put on the case it completely drops LTE and goes to 1 bar on HSPA. I'm not knocking the case in anyway. I would love to keep the case but there is definitely a interference for me on this case. Everyone though will be different but I thought I would share my experience (once again this is ONLY on AT&T).
Thanks
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You can PM me the link if you really want, but yea....doesn't matter that your on AT&T. It will happen to anyone on any network. The severity just depends on each persons location etc...
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You can PM me the link if you really want, but yea....doesn't matter that your on AT&T. It will happen to anyone on any network. The severity just depends on each persons location etc...
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I never heard of this force field theory...
If you mean electromagnetic fields that DO disrupt radio signals because they interfere... I dont see how a piece of aluminum surrounding the phone can have an EM field?
Like someone else said, the antennas on this phone are on the back (those white lines). I remember seeing it described that way in a design video as well...
Not sure how much affect there would be from blocking the side plastic.
I really doubt that should make a big difference though, cause guess what, if blocking the sides causes an issue, then thats the whole iPhone death grip fiasco again..
Anyway, I'll wait for more reviews before I buy this bumper as well. It looks great, thanks OP for the pics.
I want the silver, but it seems like only Blue is left in stock, ohw ell.
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I asked a friend about the signal issue and he suggested placing insulation in between the phone and bumpers. There's already that soft rubbery material I had mentioned in my original post (which is probably exactly for this issue) that should have been enough to compensate for the signal, but perhaps yours does not have enough? The material is pretty thin, but all it needs to do is keep both antennas from maintaining contact from each other with the bumper. I'd suggest checking to see if maybe your bumpers don't have them.
Nippero said:
I never heard of this force field theory...
If you mean electromagnetic fields that DO disrupt radio signals because they interfere... I dont see how a piece of aluminum surrounding the phone can have an EM field?
Like someone else said, the antennas on this phone are on the back (those white lines). I remember seeing it described that way in a design video as well...
Not sure how much affect there would be from blocking the side plastic.
I really doubt that should make a big difference though, cause guess what, if blocking the sides causes an issue, then thats the whole iPhone death grip fiasco again..
Anyway, I'll wait for more reviews before I buy this bumper as well. It looks great, thanks OP for the pics.
I want the silver, but it seems like only Blue is left in stock, ohw ell.
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It's not a force field theory... It's a Faraday box or cage... interesting stuff. If you want to understand how it works, link below!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
And, if you don't feel like reading... Wal-Mart is pretty much a big Faraday Box!
cassull said:
I asked a friend about the signal issue and he suggested placing insulation in between the phone and bumpers. There's already that soft rubbery material I had mentioned in my original post (which is probably exactly for this issue) that should have been enough to compensate for the signal, but perhaps yours does not have enough? The material is pretty thin, but all it needs to do is keep both antennas from maintaining contact from each other with the bumper. I'd suggest checking to see if maybe your bumpers don't have them.
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miamibest, take cassull's advice and check your padding, eliminate any and all metal to metal contact (even speaker grills) and see if that helps.
tnEVo said:
It's not a force field theory... It's a Faraday box or cage... interesting stuff. If you want to understand how it works, link below!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
And, if you don't feel like reading... Wal-Mart is pretty much a big Faraday Box!
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My mistake.
Took a quick read, interesting.
But from what I get, the conductive material used as a shield/cage has to either be charged or grounded? And this case would be neither.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong. Because if its that easy to create a Faraday cage, then doesnt the aluminum of the phone itself already create the cage, as that is much more aluminum than the bumper itself.
Nippero said:
My mistake.
Took a quick read, interesting.
But from what I get, the conductive material used as a shield/cage has to either be charged or grounded? And this case would be neither.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong. Because if its that easy to create a Faraday cage, then doesnt the aluminum of the phone itself already create the cage, as that is much more aluminum than the bumper itself.
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The aluminum already has charged particles on it before any external source touches it. And when the conductive material gets charged from an external object, the positive and negative charged particles in the material disperse to opposite sides of the surface, particles with the opposite charge of the source being attracted. Since they are on opposite sides, this creates opposing electric fields, negating the charge on the inside of the shell.
Code:
External + Net -
Source (-) + Elect. -
+ Charge=0 -
So when the EM waves (radio waves) get to the phone this phenomena happens.
Depends on the cage's construction. Mesh holes, and conductivity of the material affect the cage's effectiveness, and can be tweaked depending on what frequency/wavelength you want to penetrate. to In the One's case, it's designed for signals to get in via those white strips on the back.
EDIT: Boo my little diagram didn't come out exactly as I wanted, but basically that.
PcFish said:
EDIT: Boo my little diagram didn't come out exactly as I wanted, but basically that.
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Lmao, I think I get what you're trying to say though. Interesting stuff. Would have to do more reading to understand it.
But anyway, so far from reading the reviews on iPhone version as well, results seem hit and miss? Hm.
I can confirm the signal gets weaker w/ the case on. It's fine at places with strong signal, but at my house with only 1 bar on LTE (ATT), the phone drops LTE n go to HSPA with the case. I have kinda a workaround where i put a tiny spacer (rolled up scotch tape) on the bottom of the phone to create a tiny gap, and the LTE stopped dropping.

Aluminium bumper case - low GPS signal

Hi, a note to Huawei P8 lite owners, who are looking for nice bumper case - i have bought Luphie Aluminum Metal bumper case (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Luph...al-bumper-Top-quality-luxury/32363622714.html). Generally it's nice looking metal frame around phone edge.
However - GPS signal is 2 times lower with the frame, maybe you will not notice it in open air, but in the forest (even with few trees) GPS does not catch signal at all. Unfortunately GPS is too important feature for me, so i'm not using this case anymore.
Exactly the same happened to me.
thank you, was thinking about buying it but now i will save my money
and only GPS problems or Network Signal problems too ?
Any chance on having this bumper case here in the Philippines? It's too cool!
Network signal was ok, at least i did not notice LTE/3G issue
weak GPS signal
same problem to me
Got same problem, poor GPS reception, frame removed though it was nice.
GPS is fast and good signal with me but some times it tells me that I am in different location !
Wish I had seen this before I bought one! Didnt notice much difference with the phone signal but the GPS was unusable for use in the car.
Asked ebay seller for my money back! will wait and see what happens!
Why should he return you money ? Only when you return him case, then it make sense...
Case has been returned. If you bought a wheel for your car and it didn't turn making the car unusable wouldn't you also want your money back
phone is still perfectly usable with case. And why should somebody pay for YOUR mistake ? (this thread is here from 28th September 2015, which is now almost 9 months). you should be ashamed...
It's actually normal that you lose some signal. a case made out of conducting material works as a Faraday cage. it's the same principle as wrapping your phone in aluminium foil
Lordbannakaffalatta said:
It's actually normal that you lose some signal. a case made out of conducting material works as a Faraday cage. it's the same principle as wrapping your phone in aluminium foil
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You always can expect a small impact in signal reception but in this case the GPS becames absolutely useless in car or when you walk in the street between even small buildings. GSM signal is also affected so if you are in a low signal area you render the full device useless when using this case. I think the sellers should add some notice. I feel cheated.
I wish I had known this post!
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phone is still perfectly usable with case. And why should somebody pay for YOUR mistake ? (this thread is here from 28th September 2015, which is now almost 9 months). you should be ashamed...
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If you haven't got anything helpful to say please keep your thoughts to yourself as this type of post is completely unhelpful and derogatory.
PS if you don't know what derogatory means please look it up.
Please don't quote me anymore, and keep your opinion to yourself as your post is completely unhelpful as well.
PS: i can use google :good:
GPS,WIFI is too weak when i used the case
dont buy it
Having exactly same problem with Huawei P20 Pro metal case ???
Hi!
Aluminium bumper case are very preatty but... will block wifi, raio, GPS signals!!!!!
Aluminium is used as shield in some situations or to reflect signal like wifi booster.
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